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Warriors of the wasteland: Post-apocalypse movies

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:04 AM

CHRISISALL


My faves:

Planet Of The Apes
Blood of Heroes
Mad Max 2 & 3
Postman
Omega Man


Name 'em my last peeps on Earth!





The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:48 PM

MANGOLO

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:54 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Mangolo:
A Boy and his Dog

An "R" rated, rather kinky tale of survival.




The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:01 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oh, come on! With a title like that, how can you leave out "Warrior of the Lost World"?!

I mean, it's got the guy from The Paper Chase in it!

(I actually own the MST3K DVD of it. "Any fruit to declare?" )

ETA: Waterworld? aka "Fishtar"? Hell, it can't be any worse than The Postman, can it?

And is Blade Runner post-apocalyptic, or just dystopian film noir?

Oh, and what about The Stand (the miniseries)?

And don't forget Damnation Alley.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:14 PM

TRAVELER


On the Beach

I like how they did this movie in black and white to give the stark feeling of the end.

The Bedford Incident

Another film that was done in black and white, but is not an actual apocalyptic. It is more a metaphor.




http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:20 PM

CHRISISALL


How about "The World, The Flesh, & The Devil" with Harry Belefonte?


The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:35 PM

TRAVELER


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
How about "The World, The Flesh, & The Devil" with Harry Belefonte?



Had to look this one up. I remember it now. Harry would throw his dirty dishes out the window and get fresh ones. They simply do not show these films anymore. Maybe on cable, but I do not have cable.


http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Waterworld
Postman
Hate to admit, Book of Eli
Road Warrior
Demolition Man
Resident Evil
The Matrix 1-3
Reign of Fire
No movie for Dark Angel, huh?

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:36 PM

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN


Dark Angel isn't in the post-apocalypse genre. The world of that verse continues, albeit in an overwhelming economic depression. Society is still holding together and there is a framework of law. Compare that to the 1st Mad Max film where society is falling apart and the framework of law is crumbling into nothing.

Add to the list:
Dawn of the Dead (1978)
Dawn of the Dead (2004 remake)
(I'm curious to know which one people like better. It's a battle between the "cool CGI" types and the "Classic Film" types)

Also "The Road" is coming out on DVD. I'm curious about it. From what I gather so far, Vigo Mortinson lives in a remote section of the appalachian mountains and his remoteness somehow saves him from world destruction. From there he travels into the apocalypse with his 9 year old son who has never seen a larger world. The trailer looked like something out of Fallout. I've heard some very mixed reviews.

Chris....dude. Postman. For real? Postman and Waterworld are films you can't pay me to watch.

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:15 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I did enjoy Logan's Run, but can't recall if it was post-apocalyptic or not.

Quote:

Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
Dark Angel isn't in the post-apocalypse genra. The world of that verse continues, albit in an overwhelming economic depression. Society is still holding together and there is a framework of law. Compare that to the 1st Mad Max film where society is falling apart and the framework of law is crumbling into nothing.


Since Dark Angel occurs AFTER the Apocalypse aka The Pulse, this would be known as "POST-Apocalypse" for those needing a refresher. Hence it would fit in the post-apocalypse genre.
Perhaps you were thinking of Blade Runner as the one not fitting the post-apocalyse genre.
Or, by your logic, Planet of the Apes would not qualify because of the presence of law, society, order.


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Monday, January 25, 2010 4:32 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Can't leave out the post-apocalyptic guilty pleasure:

Cherry 2000


"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, January 25, 2010 4:52 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Can't leave out the post-apocalyptic guilty pleasure:

Cherry 2000



I was waiting to see who'd list that one. I own the DVD, but I felt too guilty to mention it first.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, January 25, 2010 4:53 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Children of Men
Road Warrior
Omega Man
Night of the Comet
La Jetée

For all of you Post Apocalypse Fans:

http://www.apocalypticmovies.com/

I'm very excited about:

Post-Apocalyptic Zombie Comic ‘The Walking Dead’ Set for TV Pilot:

The cable channel AMC has given the green light to a new post-apocalyptic Zombie pilot based on Robert Kirkman’s comic The Walking Dead. The pilot which will be directed by Frank Darabont (The Shawshank Redemption) will focus on the efforts of a sheriff and his son, as they along with a group of other survivors try to get by in a world where food, water and other basic human needs are in short supply.
Although Kirkman’s comic was inspired by the works of Zombie maestro George Romero, the story is very much about survival rather than zombies popping out from every direction. The pilot and possible TV series will have similarities to the current BBC TV show Survivors, in that the struggles between themselves and their efforts to survive will be the main focus of the show.
I’m not sure how long we’ll have to wait for this to hit our screens but I’m already getting excited about this one. And seen as the director and production team have already been chosen and casting is currently getting underway I doubt that we’ll be waiting long.

If you get a chance read the "comic/novel" - there are "family" elements in it that are very reminiscent of Firefly's disfunctional functioning family, but with more blood and zombies. And you do not have to be a zombie fan to like it.

Also - "For those that don’t know, TNT has signed up for an initial 10 episodes of Steven Spielberg’s as yet untitled alien invasion series. The series which is currently being filmed stars Noah Wyle (ER) alongside Moon Bloodgood (Terminator Salvation) and is written by Robert Rodat (Saving Private Ryan.)" release date 2011 - Moon Bloodgood

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Monday, January 25, 2010 5:00 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
Dark Angel isn't in the post-apocalypse genre.

I define apocalypse as in where millions die or there's a more than 50% loss of infrastructure. By that reckoning, Dark Angel does not qualify. But some peeps would consider a major shift in world economic power and individual freedoms to be enough...
Quote:


Chris....dude. Postman. For real?

It has just enough of the novel in it to hold my interest.
Waterworld blows completely though, yeah.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, January 25, 2010 5:01 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I did enjoy Logan's Run, but can't recall if it was post-apocalyptic or not.


My bad in leaving that one out!


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, January 25, 2010 5:21 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oooh - Night of the Comet! Good call on that one.

It's a bad movie, but it's a GOOD bad movie. :)

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Monday, January 25, 2010 6:21 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

It's a bad movie, but it's a GOOD bad movie. :)

It's one of the WORST good bad movies out there. I saw it in the theatre two times!!


The carbon-dated Chrisisall

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Monday, January 25, 2010 6:32 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I did enjoy Logan's Run, but can't recall if it was post-apocalyptic or not.




It is officially post-Apocalypse, but the only place thatgets mentioned or figures in the plot is at the VERY end.

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Monday, January 25, 2010 7:32 AM

OPPYH


-The Road Warrior

-Planet of the Apes(The first film, and also the tv series from 74')

-Miracle Mile: I know this is technically a movie about the process of a nuclear war, but it's such a good movie. I had to include it here.

-Dawn of the Dead





Sorry if I bended the rules a little, but there are very few movies in this genre I like.


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Monday, January 25, 2010 9:30 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


And no one has mentioned...

Zardoz



"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, January 25, 2010 9:47 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
And no one has mentioned...

Zardoz




Holy crap Geeze, I missed that one as well!!! And I OWN it too!! Must be getting senile...


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, January 25, 2010 10:12 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
And no one has mentioned...

Zardoz



"Keep the Shiny side up"



I'm not getting the high boots with the tissue paper uni... they seem at odds function-wise. Hot Horse Utopia?

I've never seen this film the whole way through, it's one of those you stumble on late at night and it seems like you really need to start at the beginning.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Monday, January 25, 2010 11:49 AM

LWAVES


Of the already mentioned my faves would be:

Planet Of The Apes
Mad Max 1,2+3

And adding:

28 Days Later (although this is localized to the UK)

Is A Boy And His Dog the one with Don Johnson? If it is I remember seeing that on Moviedrome many many years ago. Seem to remember I liked it. Might have to try and see it again.

And not to sidetrack but surely the definition of post-apocalyptic heaven would be where the only survivors are Browncoats and the hell version would be where you are the only Browncoat.




"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Monday, January 25, 2010 11:55 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


There's also the ABC miniseries, "The Day After", and the animated British film "When The Wind Blows".

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:12 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Just a plug for The Book Of Eli , and Mila :

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/video/mila-kunis-video?src=nl&mag=esq&
list=nl_enl_wom_cel_012610_mila-kunis&kw=ist


The girl really rocks her aviator shades...


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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:52 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by lwaves:



Is A Boy And His Dog the one with Don Johnson? If it is I remember seeing that on Moviedrome many many years ago. Seem to remember I liked it. Might have to try and see it again.



Yes, that's it. I also saw it ONCE, about ### years ago, somewhere, and it stuck with me all this time, and so I was gonna add it to the list.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:40 PM

CHRISISALL


Really, does ANYTHING compare to "Two men enter; one man leaves"?


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:30 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Bust a deal, face the wheel ?
*snicker*
You know, that one of the collectors girl flunkies, the one who actually helps max spin the wheel, has the prettiest eyes I've ever seen.

There's also that Justine Clark, the actor who played Anna Goanna (the one who sides with Max and plays flunky to him) grew up to be a real sweetheart, you should check out some of her stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justine_Clarke

I second that call for Night of the Comet too, saw that when I was much younger, and considering my work schedule and such, my "world" is kinda like that sometimes - you don't see many people out around here in the frostbitten wee hours, and thems you DO see are likely to be trouble - it can get kinda creepy according to some of my goons, but it ain't never bothered me much.

Of course, IMHO the best post-apocalyptic is Nausica of the Valley of the Wind - just an awesome flick through and through, animated or not.

-Frem

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:31 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Of course, IMHO the best post-apocalyptic is Nausica of the Valley of the Wind - just an awesome flick through and through, animated or not.


Oh, THAT was "Warriors of the Wind?" I've never seen the unedited Japanese version! Now I must!

Also, City Of Ember rocked!


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:45 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Oh maaaan, big, big, BIG can of worms, that one.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Macekre
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CutAndPasteTranslation

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The original, New World Pictures dub of Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind was Macekred so heavily that Hayao Miyazaki held off licensing his other films until someone approached him with a deal that stipulated no changes to the script or editing. This one is perhaps the most reviled C&P Translation of the 1980s, if only because the effects of the mauling of a work perceived by the Japanese as practically a national treasure are still felt in the industry; many Japanese companies still remember what happened to Nausicaa and are now incredibly paranoid themselves about any changes to their product in translation, even if it would help that product...

When Miramax picked up Princess Mononoke, one of Studio Ghibli's producers didn't forget the previous disaster and reportedly sent the Miramax execs a katana with a note saying "No cuts."



Here's a link to the actual, full version, without the re-write and 20 minutes worth of cuts.
http://www.amazon.com/Nausicaa-Valley-Wind-Sumi-Shimamoto/dp/B0001XAPZ
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Nausicaa is one of my personal idols you see, an exemplar of human decency, and while not a violent person, has a phenomenal amount of courage - her head-on rush against the hoverpod near the end of the movie is IMHO, probably THE singlemost jaw-dropping piece of awesome in Anime.

Funny thing, last convention I was at, there was this girl, maybe all of about eight or nine, dressed like her, complete with stuffed critter on her shoulder - I complemented her on the idea while at one of the craft events, and wound up in a long conversation about the moral implications of using violence to solve problems instead of understanding, and how futile it is to do so - causing her to drop the usual facade kids hold up to us adults and actually discuss it, stunned that an adult would actually *understand* such a thing, much less be willing to consider her opinions on it valid.
Best part of that was the little exchange as I headed off to go collect my merry horde of adventurers.

Me- "We're not ALL idiots, you know."
Girl- "NOW I do, yeah."

That still brings a smile and a chuckle to think of, perhaps there is hope for humanity yet.

-Frem

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:58 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:


Here's a link to the actual, full version, without the re-write and 20 minutes worth of cuts.
http://www.amazon.com/Nausicaa-Valley-Wind-Sumi-Shimamoto/dp/B0001XAPZ
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Thanks Frem, I just now ordered it for me & my family. I remember the cut version being great- this will rock somethin' fierce!

Now, how do I explain this self-inflicted financial dent...?


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:51 AM

CHRISISALL



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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:00 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Now, how do I explain this self-inflicted financial dent...?


Easy, put it in the DVD player, the real cut speaks for itself.

And yeah, doesn't hurt my opinion of her any that she's an ultralight pilot.

Problem with animated stuff is that folk tend to equate it with the kinda mass-produced garbage shovelled out to children to sell products, which some of it is, sure - don't get me started on those, just don't...

But they miss the beauty and glory of some really spectacular ones, not just in animation, but storytelling - both Last Exile and Scrapped Princess are technically "post apocalyptic" and not only wonders of animation (particularly Last Exile) but the stories behind them are so compelling and immersive they put hollywood drivel to shame.

Not to mention they do a better job of addressing themes - Avatar was pretty one sided and heavy handed, to quote Lawdog...
(who did actually like it, mind you)
Quote:

And let me tell you, young Jimmy Cameron is right fond of laying his politics on with a trowel before beating them home with a four-pound sledge hammer. Subtle, the man is not.

*snicker*

Generally in the stuff I collect, each side is completely and realistically represented with all their merits and flaws, often enough leaving the choice of right and wrong up to the viewer to decide.

Last Exile
http://www.funimation.com/lastexile/
Range Murata's work is pure distilled awesome.

(in-joke from Scrapped Princess)
ProTip: If you're gonna be throwing spells at someone who can throw them back, made sure first their casting time isn't 1/10th of yours...

Anyhows, given you can often pick up whole series for $20-30 USD, some of this stuff is well worth watching, since you can nab hours of quality entertainment for the price of a trip to the theatre to watch yet-another-remake-of-a-remake-of-a-badly-done-remake...

-F

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:11 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Easy, put it in the DVD player, the real cut speaks for itself.


Wow Frem, better than I remembered- the extra scenes & excellent voices (Patrick Stewart, HUZZZA!) help A LOT.

My Son is liking it too.

Thanks!

( I canceled my on-line order to buy it locally- I couldn't wait!)


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:12 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:


Last Exile
http://www.funimation.com/lastexile/
Range Murata's work is pure distilled awesome.


Are you forcing me to get this also, Frem?
Is this some Jedi-mind-trick?

'Cause Nausicaa rules.

Funny, I remember Fist Of The Northstar being cool, if somewhat less *deep*.

(Former 80's Anime junkie)


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:31 PM

FREMDFIRMA



*snicker*
Nah, it's up to you - just that there's a LOT of real gems in that form of storytelling, and I have a knack for finding them, usually all but forgotten or unappreciated.

Like anything else, Sturgeons Law applies, but if you want any of that 10%, believe me, I could hand you a LIST, and a long one.

-F

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Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:54 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Nah, it's up to you - just that there's a LOT of real gems in that form of storytelling, and I have a knack for finding them, usually all but forgotten or unappreciated.


I remember liking Wicked City too. And Akira. But none so much as Nausicaa (AKA the much truncated "Warriors of the Wind").Cowboy Beebop was kinda cool, but just as a rental. Venus Wars was okay as well. Macross & Ghost in the Shell were interesting. Ponyo was intoxicating, I'll order that one when it's available, as well as Tortoro.

Hand me a list, if you have the time & inclination, please.


The animated Chrisisall

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Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:48 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Gonna post that as new thread here, Chris, rather than further derail this one, although posting outside of RWE does kinda give me the greeblies.

-F

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Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:18 PM

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

Since Dark Angel occurs AFTER the Apocalypse aka The Pulse, this would be known as "POST-Apocalypse" for those needing a refresher. Hence it would fit in the post-apocalypse genre.

No. You're wrong.

Quote:


By your logic, Planet of the Apes would not qualify because of the presence of law, society, order.

The ape culture is seperate from the fallen human culture. We live in a time that would be considered post-apocalypse to a T-rex. But this concept is so obvious I'm quite suprised I need to explain it.

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Friday, January 29, 2010 5:19 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

Since Dark Angel occurs AFTER the Apocalypse aka The Pulse, this would be known as "POST-Apocalypse" for those needing a refresher. Hence it would fit in the post-apocalypse genre.

No. You're wrong.

Quote:


By your logic, Planet of the Apes would not qualify because of the presence of law, society, order.

The ape culture is seperate from the fallen human culture. We live in a time that would be considered post-apocalypse to a T-rex. But this concept is so obvious I'm quite suprised I need to explain it.




So what's YOUR definition of "apocalypse"? A societal collapse? An enormous loss of life? Is Haiti now "post-apocalypse"?



As an aside, would "Silent Running" be considered post-apocalyptic? After all, we get references to a decimated world in which plants and trees can no longer survive. Sure SOUNDS like hell on Earth...

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Friday, January 29, 2010 7:42 AM

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
So what's YOUR definittion of "apocalypse"? A societal collapse? An enormous loss of life?

This conversation was initally about Dark Angel. Since you clearly didn't read it higher in the thread, I shall copy/paste it for you:

Dark Angel isn't in the post-apocalypse genre. The world of that verse continues, albeit in an overwhelming economic depression. Society is still holding together and there is a framework of law. Compare that to the 1st Mad Max film where society is falling apart and the framework of law is crumbling into nothing.

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Friday, January 29, 2010 11:29 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
So what's YOUR definittion of "apocalypse"? A societal collapse? An enormous loss of life?

This conversation was initally about Dark Angel. Since you clearly didn't read it higher in the thread, I shall copy/paste it for you:

Dark Angel isn't in the post-apocalypse genre. The world of that verse continues, albeit in an overwhelming economic depression. Society is still holding together and there is a framework of law. Compare that to the 1st Mad Max film where society is falling apart and the framework of law is crumbling into nothing.



I read it; I just don't agree with your assessment. Or, as you told Chris, your opinion is wrong.

I asked you to clarify your terms, which you haven't done. So didn't you read my post? Shall I repost it for you, since you clearly didn't read or understand it?

And by the way, this conversation was ORIGINALLY about favorite post-apocalypse movies, NOT Dark Angel. You really should pay attention!

Mike

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Friday, January 29, 2010 6:40 PM

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I read it; I just don't agree with your assessment. Or, as you told Chris, your opinion is wrong.

No. I told that to JSF. You are still not reading very well.

And on the subject of not reading you might want to actually read posts in the thread. If you do you'll note that Chris said:

I define apocalypse as in where millions die or there's a more than 50% loss of infrastructure. By that reckoning, Dark Angel does not qualify. But some peeps would consider a major shift in world economic power and individual freedoms to be enough...

...which more-or-less echos my statement. So why should I disagree with that?

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And by the way, this conversation was ORIGINALLY about favorite post-apocalypse movies, NOT Dark Angel. You really should pay attention!
*sigh* Yes indeed. Which is exactly why I refuted its presence in the thread. Really Kwik, you should actually read before jumping in upon another discussion. Leave your RWED tactics for the RWED section.

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Friday, January 29, 2010 8:07 PM

KWICKO

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Ah - I mistook JSF's post on Dark Angel for one of Chris's posts. Not an unlikely occurrence, since when it comes to discussing Dark Angel, it usually IS Chris who's doing the discussing.

Still, in the framework of post-apocalypse, I'd say DA qualifies. I sure LOOKS like about half the societal order is gone. And if all you need to disqualify something from apocalyptic is a loose framework of law and society, then even A Boy and His Dog would be disqualified. Hell, there were even SOME rules in the Mad Max trilogy...

By the way, you jumping in with crap like "No. You're wrong" makes it look like you got your debating tactics from AuRaptor, so are you really sure you want to be impugning anyone else's? 'Cause if you want to go that route, I can already tell you you're wrong. Even if it IS just your opinion, it's still wrong. :)



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Friday, January 29, 2010 10:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ah - I mistook JSF's post on Dark Angel for one of Chris's posts. Not an unlikely occurrence, since when it comes to discussing Dark Angel, it usually IS Chris who's doing the discussing.

Still, in the framework of post-apocalypse, I'd say DA qualifies. I sure LOOKS like about half the societal order is gone. And if all you need to disqualify something from apocalyptic is a loose framework of law and society, then even A Boy and His Dog would be disqualified. Hell, there were even SOME rules in the Mad Max trilogy...

By the way, you jumping in with crap like "No. You're wrong" makes it look like you got your debating tactics from AuRaptor, so are you really sure you want to be impugning anyone else's? 'Cause if you want to go that route, I can already tell you you're wrong. Even if it IS just your opinion, it's still wrong. :)



Mike

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Yowza. Maybe somebody slipped some drugs into my protein. Kwicko is making sense, and seems like for a week or so. And BSCM hasn't made sense in most of this thread.
Maybe I should visit RWED.

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Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:50 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Ha! :)

Thanks for that. I think. ;)



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Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:13 AM

CHRISISALL


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n.
2. Great or total devastation; doom: the apocalypse of nuclear war.


This is my understanding of the word, Mike.
So I'd label Dark Angel Post-major-economic-event, but not post-apocalypse.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:02 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


It gets us into an existential question, though, doesn't it?

Does the devastation have to be GLOBAL, or can it be localized, say, to one country? Could Europe view WWII as "apocalyptic"? Could Haiti be seen as "post-apocalyptic" now?

Or do we in the U.S. only apply that kind of nomenclature to things that directly involve American soil and casualties?

In other words, where does your apocalypse end and mine begin?

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Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:04 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Warriors of the wasteland: Post-apocalypse movies




And, of course, the simplest, easiest disqualification of all, that everyone seems to have overlooked, is that Dark Angel wasn't a movie, but rather a TV series.

Sometimes we just have to complicate the simple stuff, eh?

Of course, Jericho and The Day After weren't movies either...

And how come nobody mentioned Jericho?



Life is a thought experiment.

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Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:19 AM

OPPYH


The fact of the matter is, when it comes to Post Apocalyptic movies there isn't a whole helluva lot to choose from.

There are a slew of Italian PA movies(1990:Bronx Warriors, The New Barbarians) but those are MST3K fare at best.


I consider Planet of the Apes the only "really good"
PA movie. The 70's, and 80's were the perfect time to utilize this genre. Sadly writers, and studios passed on the idea.
We got plenty of Fantasy, and Sci-Fi though so I guess I shouldn't complain

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