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First Images from New Star Trek!

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Wednesday, October 15, 2008 6:10 PM

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:29 AM

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LOL. That guy has the face and expression of Cylar! (Heroes)


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Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:32 PM

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That's because it is Sylar.
Well Zach Quinto who plays both roles.

The pics look good though.
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Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:28 PM

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I have one tiny problem. How come the bad guys of the movie are Romulans. In "Balance of Terror" Spock specifically says that no one has ever seen a Romulan. The last time the Federation and the Romulans met was over a century before this in the Romulan/Federation war and that was before the advent of viewscreens so neither side knew what the other looked like. So I kind of have a problem with Romulans being the main villian.

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:11 PM

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:59 PM

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The fact that we (the audience) can see the Romulan does NOT mean that the characters can see/identify the Romulan.

It's like those big-eared aliens on Enterprise that never gave their names. (The fact that, 200 years later, "Ferengi" is a household word, is irrelevant because it's 200 years later.)

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:55 PM

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The Bridge set looks Ghey, almost like a scene from Speed Racer.

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by lwaves:

That's because it is Sylar.
Well Zach Quinto who plays both roles.


LOL. Well, that explains a lot! :)

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Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:54 PM

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I could have sworn I read that Sulu would be played by James Kyson Lee. 'Cause this looks more like a Harold & Kumar installment. Huh.
And I still think Fillion should be Kirk. That dude looks too young.
Quinto as Spock looks BADASS though.

I'm looking forward to this one. I miss having a Star Trek around.

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Friday, October 17, 2008 2:12 AM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
The fact that we (the audience) can see the Romulan does NOT mean that the characters can see/identify the Romulan.

It's like those big-eared aliens on Enterprise that never gave their names. (The fact that, 200 years later, "Ferengi" is a household word, is irrelevant because it's 200 years later.)

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This is true. However, in "Balance of Terror" they also say no one had seen the Romulans in a century neither face to face nor ship to ship. They wern't even sure the ship that was attacking was Romulan it had been so long since they had seen each other. I find it hard for the Romulans to be the villian if the Enterprise never sees them or their ships.

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Friday, October 17, 2008 2:16 AM

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Friday, October 17, 2008 3:19 AM

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May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Pics look good so far, though I have to agree the bridge set is way overdone. That looks a heck of lot fancier than any set from previous movies. If this is a prequel shouldn't the set have been simplier, say along the lines of Enterprise the tv series or something?

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Friday, October 17, 2008 3:45 AM

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Originally posted by Stoweaway:
And I still think Fillion should be Kirk. That dude looks too young.


Kirk is supposed to be young. Part of his cachet is that he was (and AFAIK, still is even by the 24th century) the youngest person to ever make Captain.

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Friday, October 17, 2008 4:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Stoweaway:
And I still think Fillion should be Kirk. That dude looks too young.


Kirk is supposed to be young. Part of his cachet is that he was (and AFAIK, still is even by the 24th century) the youngest person to ever make Captain.

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If I remember the Kirk mythology right, he was 32 when he got his first command. True, Pine looks a bit younger, but Roddenberry said that Picard was a "youthful" 60yr old at the time TNG begins. Patrick Stewart was only 47 at that time. If humans live longer, a 32 year old man might look mid twenties by our standards.

As much as I love Fillion, I wouldn't want to see him as Kirk. Being the Captain on two different sci-fi series is weird type casting in my opinion.

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Friday, October 17, 2008 4:10 AM

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Of course I must see it being a sworn member of the Federation as I am, but I still say only Shatner could go to China.

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Friday, October 17, 2008 5:23 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Of course I must see it being a sworn member of the Federation as I am, but I still say only Shatner could go to China.

Chrisisall



Denny Crane goes to China! Oh the diplomatic setbacks that could cause!

Sorry, but as much as I love the Shat!, I think it's time for new actors to play the best characters in Star Trek. Now, when I see William Shatner, I only see Denny Crane. Young Shat, Kirk. Old and fat Shat, DENNY CRANE!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Friday, October 17, 2008 5:25 AM

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Young Shat, Kirk. Old and fat Shat, DENNY CRANE!


Yes, definitely

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Friday, October 17, 2008 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by MacBaker:
Young Shat, Kirk. Old and fat Shat, DENNY CRANE!


Yes, definitely

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Shatner will always be Kirk in so many ways, whoever plays him later on. But I hope this goes the route of the Bond actors were Connery will always be the original and best, but other good ones can follow.



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Friday, October 17, 2008 12:00 PM

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As to the question about the Romulans in that timeframe - all the Romulans, cheifly Eric Bana's character, are from the post TNG era, and go back in time to try and "Terminator" Kirk. The crux of the story is Old Spock going back to stop them, with the asistance of Young Spock.

So, assuming the Romulans don't do too much jumping around saying "We're here", and play it more through subterfuge, it should still gel, in terms of continuity.

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Friday, October 17, 2008 7:49 PM

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Friday, October 17, 2008 8:24 PM

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Friday, October 17, 2008 10:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Pics look good so far, though I have to agree the bridge set is way overdone. That looks a heck of lot fancier than any set from previous movies. If this is a prequel shouldn't the set have been simplier, say along the lines of Enterprise the tv series or something?



Couldn't agree with you more. I don't know when people who make prequels are going to get it through their heads that we want good stories not special effects that so vastly outstrip the original that it doesn't make any sense. This is the main reason the Star Wars prequels blew chunks. Lucas focused solely on special effects and forgot to tell a story. So far, I have absolutely the lowest expectations for this Trek film. Since Nolan did such a good job with the new batman (actually making it way more realistic which with batman I figured was impossible) I had had some hope but, no more.
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Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
That looks a heck of lot fancier than any set from previous movies. If this is a prequel shouldn't the set have been simplier, say along the lines of Enterprise the tv series or something?



Remember, the events of First Contact changed the timeline in subtle ways (such as creating the entire Enterprise storyline). One of the more minor ripples was that, in this version of the universe, when NCC 1701 was ordered, Kirk obviously chose the "Deluxe Blue Crystal" trim pack instead of the "70s retro" kit. What the longterm effects of this will be is unknown, but I think that option came with the anti-lock warp nacelles, which might change the course of a few battles.

They could have gone for the "Apple Special" aluminium and black glass - but Uhura didn't want the glossy main viewscreen and Scotty needed Firewire to plug in his tricorder....










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Monday, October 20, 2008 7:05 AM

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Originally posted by Lerxst:
DUDE! Spoiler warning??

______________________________________________________
"So, you're proposing that we go back in time, find some Humpback whales, bring them back here, and hope they can tell this "probe" what to go do with itself??"
"That's the general idea."
"THAT'S CRAZY!"



Didn't occur to me that the basic premise - which has been discussed publicly by those involved, and printed dozens of times, would be that much of a spoiler.

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Monday, October 20, 2008 7:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by ImNotHere:
Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
That looks a heck of lot fancier than any set from previous movies. If this is a prequel shouldn't the set have been simplier, say along the lines of Enterprise the tv series or something?



Remember, the events of First Contact changed the timeline in subtle ways (such as creating the entire Enterprise storyline). One of the more minor ripples was that, in this version of the universe, when NCC 1701 was ordered, Kirk obviously chose the "Deluxe Blue Crystal" trim pack instead of the "70s retro" kit. What the longterm effects of this will be is unknown, but I think that option came with the anti-lock warp nacelles, which might change the course of a few battles.

They could have gone for the "Apple Special" aluminium and black glass - but Uhura didn't want the glossy main viewscreen and Scotty needed Firewire to plug in his tricorder....




Well, for one - did you really expect them to keep the cardboard and pastels style of the old show??

Besides, who's to say they won't refit it to look more like what we know later on? What we're seeing in these pictures is still from before "The Cage" pilot of the series. Maybe captian Pike has the bridge redesigned at some point?

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Monday, October 20, 2008 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Well, for one - did you really expect them to keep the cardboard and pastels style of the old show??

Besides, who's to say they won't refit it to look more like what we know later on? What we're seeing in these pictures is still from before "The Cage" pilot of the series. Maybe captian Pike has the bridge redesigned at some point?



The Extreme Makeover team have a cameo appearance.

As a side note does anyone know if Pike will be featured in the movie? Or is that another secret?



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Monday, October 20, 2008 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by lwaves:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Well, for one - did you really expect them to keep the cardboard and pastels style of the old show??

Besides, who's to say they won't refit it to look more like what we know later on? What we're seeing in these pictures is still from before "The Cage" pilot of the series. Maybe captian Pike has the bridge redesigned at some point?



The Extreme Makeover team have a cameo appearance.

As a side note does anyone know if Pike will be featured in the movie? Or is that another secret?



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I don't know if it's considered a secret or not... but yeah. Pike will be played by Bruce Greenwood.



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Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:59 AM

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Hahahahaha!

I can see Chekov and McCoy as Chandler and Joey.
McCoy already has that confused Joey look.
Kirk could be Ross (maybe a stretch).
But the girls?

And thanks Storymark for letting me know about Pike. Wouldn't really do not to have him in it in some small way.


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Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:24 AM

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oh man, this is gonna be so cool. star trek is like my first sci-fi love. I grew up on it, and saw it self distruct when firefly came around.now it's like seeing an old friend, that you always hoped you'd meet again but never dreamed it'd be this much fun. hopefully, this get's trek back in order, because the old girl needs start over with a reboot.

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Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:40 AM

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Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:41 AM

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Good comparison!


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Tuesday, November 4, 2008 10:52 AM

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But why is there a maƮtre d' station on the bridge?

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Sunday, November 9, 2008 6:11 AM

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Interesting.

I can't help but feel a bit betrayed by the way the actors look almost nothing like the original character they are portraying though.

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Sunday, November 9, 2008 6:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Pics look good so far, though I have to agree the bridge set is way overdone. That looks a heck of lot fancier than any set from previous movies. If this is a prequel shouldn't the set have been simplier, say along the lines of Enterprise the tv series or something?


Well, I think that's where Enterprise failed, actually (that, and a story-line they could never decide on where it would go). People love fancy. Conceptually, yes, I agree, it should probably be more like Enterprise, the TV series, but folks just don't accept metal, sixties-like communicators and such any more.


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Sunday, November 9, 2008 2:43 PM

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Interesting.

I can't help but feel a bit betrayed by the way the actors look almost nothing like the original character they are portraying though.

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I have to disagree with you there. To a point.

It's spooky how much Karl Urban looks like Bones, and Quintano looks a lot like a young Leonard Nimoy. I would have never considered Urban for McCoy, but he is such a versatile character actor, that he'll probably pull it off well. He certainly has the look and posture of Bones in the pics!

Yeah, "Harold" doesn't looks much like Sulu, and the "Shawn of the Dead" guy doesn't look anything like Scotty, but the actors playing Kirk and Uhura do have some similar features.

Getting a actor like Shatner for Kirk is a once in a lifetime thing. J.J. had to find a new way to portray Kirk, and a new actor to interpret the role. Anything else, and it would have felt like a parody of Shatner. The key to making that work, is to find the perfect Bones and Spock to complement him. I think Pines will work as Kirk, because the director bookeneds Chris Pines with actors like Quintano and Urban.

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:16 PM

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Behold, the U.S.S. Enterprise:


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Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:21 PM

MACBAKER


This image bothers me.

The proportions seem off, and the nacelle arms are mounted awkwardly too far to the rear of the secondary hull. Why is the secondary hull moved so far forward? Just to be different? It doesn't have the balance of the original, or the sleek lines of the movie era version. Yeah, it's different, but it isn't better at all!

I have to say I prefer Gabe's version better. It's got the right balance and proportions, but looks modern.

Funny how a fanboy like us, designed a far better modernized version of the Enterprise, than the version Hollywoods best artists came up with. Someone paid good money for this mess? They should have saved a ton of wasted time and money, and paid for Gabe's design. He got it right!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:35 AM

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May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

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This image bothers me.

The proportions seem off, and the nacelle arms are mounted awkwardly too far to the rear of the secondary hull. Why is the secondary hull moved so far forward? Just to be different? It doesn't have the balance of the original, or the sleek lines of the movie era version. Yeah, it's different, but it isn't better at all!





Got to agree. Different, but definitely not better.

Is it just me, or do the nacelles remind anyone else of fins or something off of 50s car?



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I have to say I prefer Gabe's version better. It's got the right balance and proportions, but looks modern.

Funny how a fanboy like us, designed a far better modernized version of the Enterprise, than the version Hollywoods best artists came up with. Someone paid good money for this mess? They should have saved a ton of wasted time and money, and paid for Gabe's design. He got it right!





I have to agree again. I like this version much better than the one aboce. This one seems much more the way I'd imagine the Enterprise.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:07 AM

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Now now; young minds, fresh ideas- we must be tolerant.



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Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:50 AM

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Now now; young minds, fresh ideas- we must be tolerant.




I think I'm very tolerant!

I'm okay with a "young" "fresh" new cast playing my favorite Trek characters, but I still have issues with this "new" Enterprise. The engines look like they were taken off some 50's era caddy, the secondary hull is wayyyy too far forward, and the overall shape just seems awkward! Maybe it will look better from other angles, but from what I've seen, I still think the best version of the Enterprise was first seen in Star Trek: The Motion Picture. That one brought tears to my eyes! This one just makes me want to cry!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:04 AM

CHRISISALL


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I still think the best version of the Enterprise was first seen in Star Trek: The Motion Picture. That one brought tears to my eyes!

I'm with ya 100% here, Mac.
And all those flowing, aerodynamic lines they got goin' there in the new one remind me of the kinda lines you'd see on concept race cars...

@ JJ: no need for aerodynamic lines on a ship that only travels in space, yo.
Balance of design would be good, though.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:22 AM

CANTTAKEMYSKY


Could be a Remon...who knows. You know, from Nemisis. Looks kinda like one. I'm not totally up in the whole story line, but it could be.

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Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:36 AM

STORYMARK


I like the new design. Still clearly the enterprise, but it feels sturdier, more real to me.

I know fans have been going on about that fan-designed one for a while, but the nacells look like giant vibrators to me.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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