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Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:12 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Just wondering why is Piratenews allowed to post the stuff he does outside of the troll country?

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:42 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Because Haken actually believes in free speech.

As garbage as his stuff is, I'll defend PN's ability to post it. I generally just read until I hit the word "Jew", then I'm out. Usually takes about three or four words to get there.

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 1:26 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Free speech is good but there should be a place for trolling and BS.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:01 PM

DREAMTROVE


Mike is basically righht, and I think that message should get through to him.

Myself, I ignore the word Jew, and all the other gratuitous adjectives. I find his posts to be fairly informative and insightful.

The counter argument I don't really understand. I'm never going to take *anyone's* word as gospel, I'm only *ever* using someone's post as a root to search from* so he whole sources thing also doesnt always make sense, though sometimes it does, like, i'd like to read more, ooint me somewhere.

* I even do this with frem who is quite credible. People who post from mainstream sources I usually end up ignoring because it tends to be stuff i've already read.

I like to read *all* opposing views, even those of nazis, and I'm jewish, and the descendent of holocaust non-survivors. I suspect Mince has a similar, but more mocking, take.


Nick

Think of it this way:

Would you really want a govt. Made entirely of democrats? Wouldn't such a discussion quickly degenate into a brain trust star chamber? Pretty soon, people would be reinforcing their own opinions, appointing themselves haralds of the truth, and no thinking would go on.

Now, take that logic and continue it to its logical extreme. If differing opinions are good, in that they make you think more, extreme differing opinions across an entire spectum are vastly superior, as they make you think even more.

Most lf the world's political systems have a much wider spectrum than ours (problem with a two party system) we need the outside perspectives of the lunatic fringe.

It's basically the same reason why the world community is better off with ahmadinejad than without him.

So, yeah, I'm likely to agree with a minority of what he posts, but the same is true of niki or auraptor. It's that minority that I'm here from. From everyone.

People don't get sent to troll country, only threads.

Everyone has something to contribute.




That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:09 PM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


For those unfamiliar with PirateNews at fireflyfans.net, here is a typical example of PirateNews' commentary www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=49357#856314

So that you can keep track of PirateNews' whereabouts, his profile: www.fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?u=14676

If you like chugging whiskey directly from the bottle ( and I know some who do ) you can get straight up John Lee, executive producer of Pirate News TV & Radio Show, at www.piratenews.org/index2.html


The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:27 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Mike is basically righht, and I think that message should get through to him.

Myself, I ignore the word Jew, and all the other gratuitous adjectives. I find his posts to be fairly informative and insightful.

The counter argument I don't really understand. I'm never going to take *anyone's* word as gospel, I'm only *ever* using someone's post as a root to search from* so he whole sources thing also doesnt always make sense, though sometimes it does, like, i'd like to read more, ooint me somewhere.

* I even do this with frem who is quite credible. People who post from mainstream sources I usually end up ignoring because it tends to be stuff i've already read.

I like to read *all* opposing views, even those of nazis, and I'm jewish, and the descendent of holocaust non-survivors. I suspect Mince has a similar, but more mocking, take.


Nick

Think of it this way:

Would you really want a govt. Made entirely of democrats? Wouldn't such a discussion quickly degenate into a brain trust star chamber? Pretty soon, people would be reinforcing their own opinions, appointing themselves haralds of the truth, and no thinking would go on.

Now, take that logic and continue it to its logical extreme. If differing opinions are good, in that they make you think more, extreme differing opinions across an entire spectum are vastly superior, as they make you think even more.

Most lf the world's political systems have a much wider spectrum than ours (problem with a two party system) we need the outside perspectives of the lunatic fringe.

It's basically the same reason why the world community is better off with ahmadinejad than without him.

So, yeah, I'm likely to agree with a minority of what he posts, but the same is true of niki or auraptor. It's that minority that I'm here from. From everyone.

People don't get sent to troll country, only threads.

Everyone has something to contribute.




I have no problems with other opinions or other sources if they are part of an intelligent discussion. I've not seen that from PN. There are plenty of forums on the net that have very heated and varied discussions without allowing idiotic junk in.

...oh and if you think having a government full of Dems would just become brain trust star chamber you missed the health care debates.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 7:17 PM

FREMDFIRMA



There are occasions, Nick, albiet rare ones - he's not quite as crazy as he pretends to be, and while I get frustrated with him on many an occasion as well, I too am all for free speech, and view him as kind of our pet papparazi/tabloid vector.
There's also that I've a bit more sympathy cause I know at least in part how he got to be that way.

If dealing with PN is the only price free speech has around here, count thyself very, very lucky, cause I've seen much worse.

-Frem

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:58 PM

DREAMTROVE


Nick

Stick around a wjile, I've learned a thing or two from pirate news.

As to the dem brain trust, yeah, sure, there is a dissenting voice within the party, but it gets squashed. We're having trouble even st the county level trying tommake the dem power groups see reasonl. At the town level, there's some sense of reason, but as you move up, power politics and corporate corruption take over.

The worst threat to our party is this idea that republicans are evil. On the majority of our issues, the overwhelming majority of the people support us, but the partisan hacks are capable of turning everything into a blue on red war, which quickly reduces a 90% mwjority to 50%, whereupon it only twkes a handful of corrupt corporate dems to concede and we lose the issue.

To me, this is an exercise in pure stupidity. I would only add that taking a number of suicide issues also doesn't help. We as a party have a number of positions that the majority of americans are never going to identify, and some that send people running. Sure. The other side does in equal share, but we would do well to at least keep mum about them.


Frem.

Lol. Axtually, some of the worst comes from the more upstanding members in their weaker moments. The psychological need to oppose can bring out the monster within.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Monday, August 15, 2011 1:35 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

There are occasions, Nick, albiet rare ones - he's not quite as crazy as he pretends to be, and while I get frustrated with him on many an occasion as well, I too am all for free speech, and view him as kind of our pet papparazi/tabloid vector.
There's also that I've a bit more sympathy cause I know at least in part how he got to be that way.

If dealing with PN is the only price free speech has around here, count thyself very, very lucky, cause I've seen much worse.

-Frem




^This.

Yes, most of what PN posts is garbage, but as they say, garbage has the right to be garbage.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, August 15, 2011 3:39 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

...oh and if you think having a government full of Dems would just become brain trust star chamber you missed the health care debates.


I think we saw that pretty well. Public disagreement and the horse and pony show is not the same thing as what goes on in private. You want to know what goes on in private, then look at what actually comes out in the content of the bills that are produced. Ever wonder why they always have a few runners for big business that end up screwing the public far more than the few good ideas they pass to help us? There's a reason for that.

No single person on the RWED is a troll because they have reasons they act the way they do and aren't really trying to irritate other people.

We do have a couple of muckrakers, but they'll proudly admit to it, and they're still generally sincere about their beliefs.

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Monday, August 15, 2011 4:31 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


I too will stand up for PN. more than once I have logged on here, intending to comment or start a thread about something in the news, only to find that PN has already started it, with his own loopy twist. Sometimes nobody else has touched that legitimate story. SO ya gotta give him positive credit now and then. Rest of the time, just shake your head and move on, ignoring him.

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Monday, August 15, 2011 6:05 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:

Just wondering why is Piratenews allowed to post the stuff he does outside of the troll country?



Why not?





"If I have to cross a line to blow that bitch out of the sky, I will."
-FBI Agent Erica Evans, V

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Monday, August 15, 2011 6:31 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Free speech is good but there should be a place for trolling and BS.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



While I agree that much of what Piratenews posts is BS, I don't think he's trolling. He's not doing it just to piss people off - he really, REALLY believes that stuff.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, August 15, 2011 12:22 PM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:

Just wondering why is Piratenews allowed to post the stuff he does outside of the troll country?



Why not?



For real. He isn't hurting anyone. Let the man speak his peace.

Now a series of semi-relevant quotes:

"Fuck the police." -Public Enemy

"Chip in my head, better off dead." - Feed by M.T. Anderson

"They that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin

"In our time political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible." -Orwell

"To suppress free speech is a double wrong. It violates the rights of the hearer as well as those of the speaker. " -Fredrick Douglas

-----------------------------
I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.

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Monday, August 15, 2011 1:47 PM

KIRKULES


I'm just glad I did'nt miss out on one of the biannual ban Pirate News threads. Some of those who defend him now have wanted him banned in the past so don't feel like you are alone. I've always defend his right to post even though he pisses me off as much as anyone. I think the point that someone made about him believing his own crap is one of the most important reasons his posts have merit. I wish I could say the same about some of the other regulars here.

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Monday, August 15, 2011 2:18 PM

WHOZIT


I love www.piratenews.org, it's fun.

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Monday, August 15, 2011 3:10 PM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


PirateNews wrote:
Quote:

There is no law requiring payment of income tax, since that law would be unconstitutional. All unconstitutional "laws" are void from inception, according to the US Supreme Court. - http://bit.ly/oXLLT5
There is a 16th Amendment (1913) to the U.S. Constitution legalizing the Federal Income Tax. Does that shakeup PirateNews' beliefs?

Daleks prefer Firefly to Doctor Who, but what else would you expect from the Daleks?
http://gerryswanson.deviantart.com/art/Nerdy-Dalek-253086797


The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, August 15, 2011 5:00 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkules:
I'm just glad I did'nt miss out on one of the biannual ban Pirate News threads. Some of those who defend him now have wanted him banned in the past so don't feel like you are alone. I've always defend his right to post even though he pisses me off as much as anyone. I think the point that someone made about him believing his own crap is one of the most important reasons his posts have merit. I wish I could say the same about some of the other regulars here.




I can't remember any of those who've defended PN here ever supporting any ban of him at all. Certainly I haven't. My support of free speech is universal; after all, if such a right doesn't apply to all, it applies to none.

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Monday, August 15, 2011 6:43 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I agree, as obnoxious as some, many, of his posts are he should have the right to post them if he wants to. I just ignore most of them, click and read some and then move along, but sometimes he does post things that have some validity, ... sometimes. I'm sorry that he does believe all those scary things, I wouldn't want to be in that situation. I'm happy when he posts things about drag racing and stuff because its stuff that he likes instead of stuff that is unpleasant for him to believe, so I like seeing that he has some hobbies that he enjoys, outer space stuff, animal stories etc.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:31 AM

SIMONWHO


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Everyone has something to contribute.



And in PirateNews's case, it should be silence.

/Rimmer

There is no such thing as totally free speech. You're not allowed to shout fire in a crowded theatre, there are laws against slander and libel plus endless copyright restrictions. But the simplest reason why people like PirateNews should be banned is they're pure poison to a place like this. When every other thread is started by someone like him, with titles that are racist, homophobic, anti-semitic or all three, anyone who is a new Firefly fan will come here, see those threads and think "What a bunch of assholes" and leave, never to be seen again.

However, it's entirely Haken's choice - this is his site, his rules, his decision.

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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:10 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:

But the simplest reason why people like PirateNews should be banned is they're pure poison to a place like this. When every other thread is started by someone like him, with titles that are racist, homophobic, anti-semitic...



I'm a bad person because I don't want to murder millions of heterosexual Semites and 100s of millions of Christians in USA?

Maybe I'm a littled bit angry that I was tricked into murdering 40 women and children as they slept in their beds in Libya, "justified" by a false-flag covert radio broadcast by Israeli Mossad in Libya?
www.piratenews.org/pentagonwhistleblower.html





Quote:

"I have to admit that my news is pirate news, I'll still come here for one reason: It's just more informative and more efficient to keep up with what's going on in the world by coming here than it is by reading the news."
-DREAMTROVE jew

"A 'Semite' is any person living in that area, including Arabs and Christians. It's time we start talking about 'The Other AntiSemitism'. A Semite is not a Jew living in America or Europe."
—Ralph Nader (homosexual Arab Semite from Lebannon), C-SPAN, 2003

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars
www.khazaria.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/Ashkenazim.html
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/culture/?id=35105

"It's a trick we always use it. When in Europe somebody cricize Israel then we bring out the Holocaust. When in this country somebody criticize Israel then they are anti-Semitic. The organization is strong and has a lot of money, and ties between Israel and the Jewish establishment is very powerful in this country. And that justify everything we do to the Palestinians."
-Shulamit Aloni, jewish minister of Israel, talking to lesbian jew Amy Goodman on Democracy Now
youtube.com/watch?v=j-Caq0h_Wds

"Jewish control of the media is preventing free Holocaust debate. Israel has fucked up United States foreign policy for years. [Jew Adolf] Hitler [Shicklegruber Rothschild] is an easy scapegoat throughout history and it's been used cheaply. Hitler was a Frankenstein -- there was also a [jewish] Dr Frankenstein. We're going to educate our minds and liberalize them and broaden them. We want to move beyond opinions. Go into the funding of the Nazi party. How many [jewish] American corporations were involved, from GM through IBM. [jew] Hitler is just a man who could have easily been assassinated.”
-Jew Oliver Stone, Hollywood director
www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Review/article352668.ece

The Secret History of the United States: Jew Oliver Stone says jew banksters aided jew Adolf Hitler, Stone's JFK forced Congress to declassify Operation Northwoods signed by jewish General Lyman Lemnitzer
www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jaefUfWXwMYP_e7B
OeoYwU-aV9rg


“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews become worse. This will assist in realization of our plans. I have an excellent idea -- I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends.”
-Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897

"We have a case of the Jew, a totally different species. The body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of members of all other nations of the world. Bodies of the Gentiles are in vain. An even greater difference is in regard to the soul A non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness."
-Rabbi Mendel Schneerson, Lubavitcher friend of George Bush Sr

"The Law of Return is Israeli legislation, enacted in 1950, that gives Jews, those of Jewish ancestry, and their spouses the right to migrate to and settle in Israel and gain citizenship. The law gives the right of return to those born Jews (having a Jewish mother or maternal grandmother), those with Jewish ancestry (having a Jewish father or grandfather) and converts to Judaism (Orthodox, Reform, or Conservative denominations—not secular—though Reform and Conservative conversions must take place outside the state, similar to civil marriages). In the Law of Return, the State of Israel put into practice the Zionist movement's "credo" as pledged in Israel's Declaration of Independence and recognized by the League of Nations in 1922, when charging Britain with the duty of establishing a Jewish National Home, and by the United Nations within the Partition Plan of 1947 which provided for establishment of Israel as an independent Jewish state. Originally, the Law of Return was restricted to Jews only. A 1970 amendment, however, stated that, "The rights of a Jew under this Law and the rights of an oleh under the Nationality Law... are also vested in a child and a grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of a grandchild of a Jew". The Law of Return also excludes any "person who has been a Jew and has voluntarily changed his religion." The Supreme Court of Israel ruled in 1989 that Messianic Judaism ["Christianity"] constituted another religion, and that people who had become Messianic Jews were not therefore eligible for Aliyah under the law."
-Israeli Law of Return
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return

"Messianic Jews [Christians] are not entitled to automatic Israeli citizenship, Israel's Supreme Court has ruled, concluding that their belief that Jesus was the Messiah makes them Christians instead of Jews. The ruling, published in Israeli newspapers today, supported Orthodox religious interpretations of the state's 1950 Law of Return. The law forms the basis of Jewish immigration to Israel. The law and its subsequent amendments define a Jew as a person born to a Jewish mother or who converts to Judaism and professes no other faith. Orthodox politicians have long sought a more precise definition, and the court's Christmas Day ruling has resolved one issue. The 100-page decision said that belief in Jesus made one a member of another faith and ineligible for automatic Israeli citizenship, The Jerusalem Post, Hadashot and Yediot Ahronot reported. A Supreme Court spokesman, Shmaryahu Cohen, declined on two occasions today to show the 100-page ruling to The Associated Press or comment on its contents."
-New York Times, Israeli Court Rules Jews for Jesus Cannot Automatically Be Citizens, December 27, 1989
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/27/world/israeli-court-rules-jews-for-j
esus-cannot-automatically-be-citizens.html


"Even an act of kindness by a Christian toward a Jew, such as giving a gift of food, can be interpreted as trying to convert the Jew to Christianity and can bring a 5 year prison sentence."
-Jew Jack Bernstein, assassinated by Mossad
http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/christian-persecution-aler
t-messianic-jews-arrested-in-israel
/

Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=487412&contrassI
D=2&subContrassID=5&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y


"Fuck Obama! White Power! Fuck the niggers! Obama, who even knows if he was born in the United States? We haven't seen his birth certificate yet. I'm a jew, I'm Israel. Obama, I'm gonna teabag your ass and put it on youtube, faggot."
-White jews in Israel, June 2009
video: www.tu.tv/videos/feeling-the-hate-in-jerusalem-on-eve-of
http://radarsite.blogspot.com/2009/06/youth-in-israel-speak-out-about-
obamas.html

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1244371044168&pagename=JPAr
ticle/ShowFull

youtube.com/watch?v=Ze5dbxPO8cU

Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=487412&contrassI
D=2&subContrassID=5&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y


"Even an act of kindness by a Christian toward a Jew, such as giving a gift of food, can be interpreted as trying to convert the Jew to Christianity and can bring a 5 year prison sentence."
-Jew Jack Bernstein, assassinated by Mossad
http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/christian-persecution-aler
t-messianic-jews-arrested-in-israel
/

The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel Where Christianity Is a Felony
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/israel.htm

The Complete Guide to Killing Non-Jews - by Rabbi Od Yosef Hai Yeshiva, 9 Nov 2009
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/updated-version-of-the-com
plete-guide-to-killing-non-jews
/

British court indicts Israeli minister for warcrimes in Gaza
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=41155

“Just the Jews are humans, the Non-Jews are no humans, but cattle.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Kerithuth 6b page 78, Jebhammoth 61a (goyim = human cattle)

“The Non-Jews have been created to serve the Jews as slaves.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Midrasch Talpioth 225

“The Non-Jews have to be avoided, even more than sick pigs.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Orach Chaiim 57, 6a

“Sexual intercourse with Non-Jews is like sexual intercourse with animals.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Kethuboth 3b

“The birth-rate of the Non-Jews has to be suppressed massively.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Zohar II, 4b

“Everywhere they (the Jews) come, they will be the princes of the lords.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 104a

“I (Jahveh) make you (the Jewry) the ancestor of the peoples, I make you the selected one amongst the peoples, I make you the king over the peoples, I make you the loved one amongst the peoples, I make you the best one amongst the peoples, I make you the trusted one amongst the peoples.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Schabbat 105a

“Jews always have to try to deceive Non-Jews.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Zohar I, 168a

“Every Jew is allowed to use lies and perjury to bring a Non-Jew to ruin.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Babha Kama 113a

“The possessions of the goyim are like an ownerless desert, and everybody (every Jew) who seizes it, has acquired it.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, IV/3/54b

“When the Messiah comes, all will be slaves of the Jews.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Erubin 43b

“A proselyte who is under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.”
-Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, creator of Kabbalah

“As soon as she was of age one hour and did not protest she cannot protest any more.”
-Kethuboth 11a, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"Virginity comes back to the little girl under three years."
-Kethuboth 11b, Footnote 7, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"When a grown up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when a girl is less than this 6, it is as if one puts a finger into the eye 7?"
-Kethuboth 11b, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"Because a boy under 9 is sexually immature, he can't throw guilt on the active offender, morally or legally."
-Sanhedrin 55a, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"The intercourse of a small boy is not regarded as a sexual act."
-Kethuboth 11b, Footnote 1, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"A circumcision ritual practiced by some Orthodox Jews has alarmed city health officials, who say it may have led to three cases of herpes - one of them fatal - in infants. But after months of meetings with Orthodox leaders, city officials have been unable to persuade them to abandon the practice. The practice is known as oral suction, or in Hebrew, metzitzah b'peh: after removing the foreskin of the penis, the practitioner, or mohel, sucks the blood from the wound to clean it."
-Andy Newman, New York Times, "City Questions Circumcision Ritual After Baby Dies," August 26, 2005
www.piratenews.org/pedophile-jewish-rabbis-kill-babies.html
youtube.com/watch?v=yU0sIUtroQM

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat summer school."
-Jew Buffy Summers

"Those who give up liberty for security deserve to show their panties."
-Brock Samson

"Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
-Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to Jonathan Pollard (convicted CIA traitor and Mossad spy in USA) upon exiting Pollard's jail cell

"The FBI has issued a BOLO on suspected terrorists driving a white delivery van from New York City to the Mexican border. The suspects are using Israeli passports. They are armed and dangerous."
-Knox County TN Emergency 911 Dispatch, Sept 11, 2001, 11am EST
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm

"Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center. Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals."
-FBI BOLO ("Be On Lookout"), 11 September 2001, 3:31 p.m., according to Bergen County Police Chief John Schmidig
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/WTC_Mysteries3.html
http://columbus.indymedia.org/node/13067

The first terrorist bombers arrested in USA on 9/11/2001 were Israeli Mossad says Fox News. There were over 500 of them, infiltrating US military bases and all police agencies. They were dressed as Muslims, "dancing in happiness" while watching and videotaping the World Trade Center explode. Despite FBI finding residue of explosives in their van, none of the Israelis were tortured to confess at Gitmo, and all were allowed to leave USA by Israeli US DOJ prosecutor Michael Chertoff who was then promoted to director US Dept of Homeland Security.
youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw
youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34250,00.html
www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20065.htm

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks.”
—Usama bin Laden, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001


http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/obl_int.htm

"We've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."
—Dick Cheney, "Interview of the Vice President by Tony Snow", March 29, 2006


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html




Hollywood winner as seen on History Channel and Asahi TV in Japan
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5095012753871278980&hl=en
http://September911Surprise.PirateNews.org
www.September911Surprise.com (banned by webmaster jews at Infowars.net)

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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:28 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


You behave so yuckily PN, is yuckily a word? But you do. If you kept that stuff in the RWED forum then people who aren't prepared for running into it wouldn't have to see it, because it freaks most people out because it just sounds yucky.

Simonwho, I understand what you mean about how much of a turnoff it is to see _that all over the place. I wish PN would just post that stuff in RWED so it wouldn't piss off new folk. Then if they wanted to they could venture into RWED (not as bad as it looks people, I'm still alive in there) and read what they liked. But I get your point about not posting trashy stories with trashy titles in the TalkStory section. But Haken gets to decide.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:56 PM

SIMONWHO


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
I'm a bad person because I don't want to murder millions of heterosexual Semites and 100s of millions of Christians in USA?



No, you're a bad person because you think that the Jews do and you spam this message board that has no connection to that topic whatsoever with endless threads, filled with racism, homophobia and anti-semitism.

To be honest, I don't think you're a "bad person". You're just a pain. And no, not the good sort, not a fearless crusader who overcomes the hatred and indifference of a heartless world. Just a pain.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:43 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
No, you're a bad person because you think that the Jews do and you spam this message board that has no connection to that topic whatsoever with endless threads, filled with racism, homophobia and anti-semitism.

To be honest, I don't think you're a "bad person". You're just a pain. And no, not the good sort, not a fearless crusader who overcomes the hatred and indifference of a heartless world. Just a pain.



...and that is why I think he should not be allowed to post the way he does outside troll country. It is not so much what he is saying, but how, and how often he is saying it. Spam really is the key word.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:39 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:

...and that is why I think he should not be allowed to post the way he does outside troll country. It is not so much what he is saying, but how, and how often he is saying it. Spam really is the key word.



And your fanfic needs a proofreader.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:50 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by RionaEire:

Simonwho, I understand what you mean about how much of a turnoff it is to see _that all over the place. I wish PN would just post that stuff in RWED so it wouldn't piss off new folk. Then if they wanted to they could venture into RWED (not as bad as it looks people, I'm still alive in there) and read what they liked. But I get your point about not posting trashy stories with trashy titles in the TalkStory section. But Haken gets to decide.



Did I post this thread in RWED?

Did I post this thread?

Do facts matter?

As for trashy stories, have you read M52NICKERSON's fanfic, measuring the size of Serenity's penises? (actually funny)
http://fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?u=46203

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:13 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
And your fanfic needs a proofreader. ]

Yes it does, are offering to do it?

Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:

Did I post this thread in RWED?

Did I post this thread?

Do facts matter?

As for trashy stories, have you read M52NICKERSON's fanfic, measuring the size of Serenity's penises? (actually funny)
http://fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?u=46203




...any publicity is good. So thanks!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:41 AM

BYTEMITE


Maybe not a crusader, but he does have gulf war syndrome. In that condition, I'm not sure we can any of us really hold him accountable for what he says.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:43 AM

BYTEMITE


Aw, that's no fair getting personal. I keep stories off limits in an argument.

I was unnecessarily harsh in the comments there. ._.

Also, everyone knows I have the trashiest fics on here. They're full of awful romance fluff and garbage.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:17 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

DREAMTROVE jew


Lol. I feel honored. Now I want to be a knight of the british empire



That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:19 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Aw, that's no fair getting personal. I keep stories off limits in an argument.

I was unnecessarily harsh in the comments there. ._.

Also, everyone knows I have the trashiest fics on here. They're full of awful romance fluff and garbage.



It did not think you were harsh at all. I think it was honest feed back, which I appreciate.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:37 AM

BYTEMITE


I'm kind of a prude. ^_^' You'll see every now and then I'll be reading some fanfic and chatting with the author, and then they'll post something that's M or NC-17, and I won't comment on that chapter, but return to commenting on the next one.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:21 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Interesting that, the idea of bringing people's fanfic into other discussions, I've never seen it happen and I'm surprised now that I think on it, that its never happened before. When I said trashy stories I didn't mean fanfic, I meant the articles that PN sometimes posts that have trashy and hideous titles that make people say ew. But maybe he writes trashy fanfic too, I don't know since I don't read it here, one day a week of reading and reviewing on fanfiction.net is all I have time for when it comes to fanfic, though I've had people asking me to come read here and review. I just don't have time.

I just want everyone, including PN, to feel safe, content and fulfilled in their lives, touchy feely I know but I can't help it, its how I feel. I know PN doesn't really feel those things currently, because people who do don't post mean old stuff like those bizarro articles, unless he just posts them to be a snot and doesn't actually believe all the paranoia in them, which is possible too. But maybe someday he'll get there. At any rate I'm glad he likes outer space articles, keeping up on current events and animal stories and racing, those are cool things.

Oh, and on fanfic.net I don't venture into the M section so if someone has an M fic they want me to read they have to ask me specifically and I'll consider it.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:23 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:

Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
And your fanfic needs a proofreader.



Yes it does, are offering to do it?

Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:

As for trashy stories, have you read M52NICKERSON's fanfic, measuring the size of Serenity's penises? (actually funny)
http://fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?u=46203



...any publicity is good. So thanks



Pretty good fanfic. Sex does seem to be popular on this forum for some unknown reason.

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Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:30 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:

Quote:

DREAMTROVE jew


Lol. I feel honored. Now I want to be a knight of the british empire



I dont have anything against jews. They gave me 2 awards in Hollywood.

It's the one who want to be top of the food chain I have a problem with.

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Thursday, August 18, 2011 2:10 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Oh, and on fanfic.net I don't venture into the M section so if someone has an M fic they want me to read they have to ask me specifically and I'll consider it.


Mine is not M, much closer to PG-13.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:53 AM

BYTEMITE


Yeah, I know, but it tripped the prude anyway. So objectivity became o.o *rant*

Normally I'm better at reigning it in than that, sorry about that.

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Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:39 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Yeah, I know, but it tripped the prude anyway. So objectivity became o.o *rant*

Normally I'm better at reigning it in than that, sorry about that.



Just stop, I already told you, you don't have to apologize. It takes quite a lot to offend me.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:44 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Everyone has something to contribute.



And in PirateNews's case, it should be silence.

/Rimmer

There is no such thing as totally free speech. You're not allowed to shout fire in a crowded theatre, there are laws against slander and libel plus endless copyright restrictions. But the simplest reason why people like PirateNews should be banned is they're pure poison to a place like this. When every other thread is started by someone like him, with titles that are racist, homophobic, anti-semitic or all three, anyone who is a new Firefly fan will come here, see those threads and think "What a bunch of assholes" and leave, never to be seen again.

However, it's entirely Haken's choice - this is his site, his rules, his decision.



True, not ALL speech is protected by Free Speech -

But everything PN has posted is. Being an asshole is not illegal.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:03 PM

SIMONWHO


Illegal? Probably not (though I would have thought he could be done for slander).

But FFF.net is a private internet forum run by an individual who can set any standards he chooses. PirateNews has no entitlement to post here, it's simply at Haken's allowance that he can do so. The slight catch is the way he posts, the amount he posts and what he posts has actively contributed to killing the forum.

Which makes me a bit sad.

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Friday, August 19, 2011 1:45 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I'm sorry, but I get a little leery whenever I hear someone claim that this user or that is "killing this forum".

If there's anything that's killing this forum, it's probably down to the fact that it's a forum dedicated to a half-season show that was cancelled nearly a decade ago.


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, August 19, 2011 2:37 AM

DREAMTROVE




John

Maybe you should find another moniker for your enemies then. Lots of those top dogs are not jewish.

Sanger was not jewish, neither was Stokes. In fact no one in their community or conspiracy was jewish. They were lead by a white supremacist agenda, started by non-jew Galton.

Cheney isn't Jewish, neither is T Boone Pickens, nor anyone in the whole oil elite trying to rape the environment that I have so far run into.

Sure, when I dig in to the Iraq war, I find lots of jews in the panning, and this is true in a lot of the middle eastern affairs, and a lot of the globalist ones, but the more it becomes just generally globalist, the more jews are just one group.

Problem being that a parasitic conspiracy is a simple organizational structure that anyone can come up with. So, sure, there is an ultra-zionist conspiracy that wants to use others to forward their goals, but it would be a classical logical fallacy to say "ergo, any parasitic conspiracy is therefore jewish." furthermore, it's pretty easy to prove such an assumption false: the Poshteca of the Nahuatl could fit that category as could the Huari priesthood of the Quechua yet you can be very sure that neither one were jewish. So, if it occured to societies who never met jews, it probably occurs to ones that have met jews but are not jews.

As for knights of the british empire, Bob Geldoff is a knight of the british empire. It's an award. You may not care for the issuers. I myself have little respect for the nobel committee, but that doesn't mean that I denigrate its recipients.

Molech might be worshipped by some sick cult today, I don't know, but in ancient hebrew it's just a word meaning king, written as MLK. Various tribes would have used it to refer to other tribes gods as LMLK, meaning "their king" or MLKM meaning "to the king" or "offering" or "sacrifice." See how logically this all makes a certain amount of sense? But the "god" of ancient Israel is a posthumous myth, there were many gods. There were some monotheists, sure, but the god of the zealots of ancient zion was refered to as YHWH for "I am" which was short for "I am he whose name cannot be spoken" which was largely a monotheistic trick, to use a placeholder to prevent the relative discussions of different gods. Their god was most likely Sin, the god of Mt. Sinai, since that was where the tribe had come from, and had many of the same tropes. However, it was not a total domination. After all, the country is called Israel, to serve el, not Israsin. Also, elements of Ba'al enter into the concept of god even in the christian faith, such as the vestal virgins the keepers of e flame, straight out of Ba'al, in spite of his incorporation into the name beelzebub, originally's Ba'al's king Zebub,

As for MKULTRA, interesting stuff, and you could say that a situation like Lindsay Lohan's, or Janis Joplin, Amy Winehouse, are a form of control, and that these companies give free samples to their "stars" as a means of manipulation.

This is where your enemies cross over into Frem's. He has a list of enemies, as do I, but it pays to refine said list.

The elders of zion, should they exist, are just going to use you to discredit your otherwise sound arguments because people already reject anti-semitism, largely as a result of WWII.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Monday, August 22, 2011 5:17 AM

SIMONWHO


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'm sorry, but I get a little leery whenever I hear someone claim that this user or that is "killing this forum".

If there's anything that's killing this forum, it's probably down to the fact that it's a forum dedicated to a half-season show that was cancelled nearly a decade ago.



That's a big reason, yes. But there's plenty of forums that continue onwards merrily for decades - for example, Star Wars has plenty of busy forums, despite only having three movies and three travesties. The point is that the forum is something more than just the TV show/movie/book that inspired it. When someone is shouting so loudly something so abhorrent and is tolerated, that tells normal people to avoid this place like the plague.

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Monday, August 22, 2011 6:26 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


DT, I think the concept you're trying to explain to PN is summed up in the Latin, post hoc, ergo procter hoc ("After the fact, therefore because of the fact").

The idea that there are Jews involved in some conspiracies doesn't mean that the conspiracies were enacted BECAUSE some participants were Jewish, any more than it means that they were enacted because of white people, or Muslims, or blacks, or any other single group.

And that is the part that PN will never understand. For him, if any Jew does anything bad, it's because all Jews are evil. If, however, a Jew does something GOOD, it's because he betrayed his people and acted against Jewish orders.

And that is the depth of PN's craziness.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 3:08 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
DT, I think the concept you're trying to explain to PN is summed up in the Latin, post hoc, ergo procter hoc ("After the fact, therefore because of the fact").

The idea that there are Jews involved in some conspiracies doesn't mean that the conspiracies were enacted BECAUSE some participants were Jewish, any more than it means that they were enacted because of white people, or Muslims, or blacks, or any other single group.

And that is the part that PN will never understand. For him, if any Jew does anything bad, it's because all Jews are evil. If, however, a Jew does something GOOD, it's because he betrayed his people and acted against Jewish orders.

And that is the depth of PN's craziness.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill



That's a pretty good analysis.

It could be argued whether or not it's because of their jewishness on the same level as terrorism because of islam.

Most jews are born into a belief system which doesn't greatly affect their lives. Some go wonky to the extreme, and judaism has some values of us and them in it that picture jews as ruling class over the goyim, and that does manifest in the lunatic jewish fringe, just as the lunatic muslim fringe manifests terrorism and the lunatic christian fringe becomes a crusade.

What I think really gets PN is the level of dominance in our economic system that the joos hold. There's something to this, because it's basically their economic system: Our capitalism system started out in ancient egypt, but that society and culture no longer exists; then it was inherited by the jews, who added some concepts to it, like credit/interest lending, and then inherited by Rome, which added some concepts to it, like the corporation.

The nature of capitalism is that it benefits the first in. This is in the root of capitalism: "Capital." The nature of persistent capital benefits those who inherit over those who enact labor, and the fiat currency system *(which is, ironically, greek) is necessary, along with our taxation system, which is pretty much roman, to maintain economic dominance.

At any rate, the jews are the eldest surviving culture in the system, so it benefits them, followed by rome, and its economic successor states, the RCC and great britain (arguably latin america is the successor state to Spain, but it didn't inherit the gold, though it did inherit the land based wealth, and is probably a future dominant power in capitalism.) The US is a successor state to the british empire, as is India, China is to some degree because it is the british colonial portions that are really dominating capitalism, not the soviet-communist portions. China is the obvious successor state to the USSR, ergo, the whole european socialist revolution.

When it all falls apart is when everything has to be tied together into a giant conspiracy. There are Merchants of Death in Judaism, but there are also MoD in random african tribes, or Cambodia, etc. It's an evolution of genocide, where you just try to kill the other by every conniving trick in the book. The eugenicists, if you trace them back to their roots, contain not a single jew. This is not because they were secret jews, but because they weren't jews at all. That's part of why they killed the jews, the jews were other.

But the crazies were already crazy, and their jewishness or muslimness or christianity only helped direct the manifestation of that insanity.

In PN land, killing the jews was a promotional poster for Israel. Problem/Crisis/Solution. You create Israel, no one wants to go because life is better in europe, so you make a purge against the jews.

That idea works, just not from a jewish perspective. Jews value the life of jews, sometimes to an extreme degree. Israel can't conquer palestine in part because they're willing to sacrifice zero jews to do it, and the palestinians are willing to sacrifice any number of palestinians. So, even with overwhelming monetary and military superiority, Israelis are at an impasse.

The one point on his side is that in Britain the British Israelite society had no interest in stopping the holocaust, which at first doesn't make any sense at all, until you start thinking like PN:

The British Israelites were really setting up Israel, a role they were essentially taking over from Germany, as jews had lost favor (already by WWI.) The British Israelite idea was that eastern european jews (often somewhat incorrectly called ashkenazim*, which actually means "german jew" actually more accurately now "khazar" after their more russian origin) ... were not jews.

* the word Nazi was a derogatory term for useless people, which came from the yiddish. The wealthy Sephardim of Germany used it originally to refer to indigent Ashkenazim, and when those same wealthy jews fled the NSDAP, they referred to them as "the Nazis" because the slur had lost all meaning, sort of like saying "I was gypped" few people think they are saying "I was screwed over by a gypsy."

Anyway, to add more irony, the reason for the British Israelites' rejection of the Khazars was exactly the same as PN's: That they were inferior because they had mongol blood from the invasions of Genghis Khan.

To add even more irony, Israel is now predominantly Khazar because of the Russian influence during the cold war, in part because of jews fleeing an anti-semitic socialist state, which now creates irony overload in the khazars of Israel today trying to discount non-khazar jews as "not being true jews."

But this is really how complicated the world really is, and kills any sort of serious grand conspiracy theory.

All the time all of this was happening, people in SE Asia, Central America and deepest darkest Africa, were hatching sinister conspiracies to kill rival tribes, economically dominate them, create slave labor for themselves, seize resources, and promote their own genes.

To an extreme degree, this is of course self defeating, as you need an actual gene pool, but I think total ignorance of this part of human nature is also self defeating, because even if you're empathetic enough not to do it, it will still be done to you by other groups.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:52 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


One thing this forum does need is to be reminded that.....

"brevity is the soul of wit" ~Shakespeare

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:34 AM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
http://badseedshalo.deviantart.com/art/Shepherd-Book-254383758

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:42 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Happy 10th Anniversary of the Republicon/Demorat/Mossad/MI6 Coalition of the Willing Traitors.


Hollywood winner as seen on History Channel and Asahi TV in Japan
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5095012753871278980&hl=en
http://September911Surprise.PirateNews.org
www.September911Surprise.com (banned by webmaster jews at Alex Jones' Infowars.net)



"The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode of government by terror or intimidation."
-Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat summer school."
-Buffy Summers

"Half of writing history is hiding the Truth."
-Capt Malcolm Reynolds, Serenity
https://video.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/716.shtml

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Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:28 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Free speech does not mean garbage has to be allowed here. It just means the govt can't censor speech, and keeping the bs that PN posts to a reasonable level is NOT a violation of free speech. Dude has his own gig to get his views out. I for one could care less


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, December 22, 2011 3:13 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Free speech does not mean garbage has to be allowed here. It just means the govt can't censor speech, and keeping the bs that PN posts to a reasonable level is NOT a violation of free speech. Dude has his own gig to get his views out. I for one could care less




Readily agree with most of that, but I'm still glad Haken has seen his way clear to allow whatever. I've seen so many boards start in with the "watch your language" BS, followed by profanity filters, then "warnings" and "demerits", followed by suspensions and outright bans - and it pretty much always comes down to one poster's politics not properly aligning with the moderator's. I'd hate to see that happen here, to anyone.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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