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'Safe' episodes to watch

POSTED BY: SITERIAN
UPDATED: Monday, June 16, 2008 15:47
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Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:08 AM

SITERIAN


Hello everyone. :)

I've been watching through Firefly with a family member lately... really having a good time. Thing is, he's sort of a religious person, and though some stuff is okay... sometimes watching shows like this can get kind of... awkward. I've been warned that "Heart of Gold" has a sex scene that might be worth avoiding, so I'll probably watch that one by myself. Is there anything else I should be careful about? We've seen through "Jaynestown" except for "Our Mrs. Reynolds."

No spoilers, please. :P

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Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:48 AM

JIMMYCHANGA


If he's REALLY uptight he may not like Our Mrs. Reynolds. ;^)

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Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:47 AM

DAVESHAYNE


If you're avoiding the sex you'll probably want to steer clear of War Stories. Also maybe Out of Gas but that's the best episode so maybe not.

David

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Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Are you trying to avoid issues of pre-marital sexual relations? Sinning in general? Specifically nudity? hacking off body parts? What?

For nudity, skip Trash (Mal) and Ariel (River's holograph in the neuroimager) and Our Mrs. Reynolds (Saffron seducing Mal) and the Pilot (River-in-the-Box) and War Stories (Inara and Counciler).

I generally figure if they have hang-ups, they shouldn't watch network television, go rent G-rated dvds.
If they are truly interested in religion, almost each episode should provide fodder for discussion about religions and their potential future.

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Friday, March 28, 2008 4:13 AM

JOSSISAGOD


I think Siterian is trying to avoid sex, and anything that puts The Bible in a bad light. Also, I don't really think River's Holoimage qualifies as "Nudity."

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Friday, March 28, 2008 5:01 AM

ZEEK


There is not a whole lot of safe episodes. I realized this when I was trying to pick an episode to watch on a plane flight when I had an older couple next to me. I pretty much wanted to avoid any nudity or sex.

Serenity (the pilot) - out (River naked in a box, Inara naked bathing, Inara sexin up a client)
Train Job - in
Bushwacked - in
Shindig - in
Out of Gas - out (Kaylee sexin Bester)
Our Mrs. Reynolds - out (naked Saffron)
Safe - in
War Stories - out (Inara and councilor)
Objects in Space - maybe (topless Simon, provocative Wash and Zoe in their bunk)
The Message - out (naked Tracey)
Trash - out (naked Mal)
Heart of Gold - out (Mal and Nandi gettin it on)

Joss really liked some skin in Firefly.

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Friday, March 28, 2008 12:10 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


The Bible says that we were told to be fruitful and multiply. Do you think God intended for us to do that with our clothes on?



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Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:48 PM

SITERIAN


Whargh. Perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned the religious part. Thanks all for the information though. :)

Mebe I'll just secretly watch the episodes first without them. It's good enough where I don't mind seeing them first, I guess. :D

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Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:01 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Perhaps someone better at searching this site can come up with a link to something mentioned here before, a blog written by a minister, who is very much a Firefly fan. If a minister can find things of value in the show, in spite of some less than virtuous actions by some of the characters, then I think most anyone can enjoy it without getting too bent out of shape. In my opinion, the only thing that even the most devout should have a problem with is the Inara/counselor scene in "War Stories."




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Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:52 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


I don't see why it should be an issue at all,

the stories are not about the sin, but about how one acts in a world of sin. Nobody in the verse is perfect, as in our world... but how we act is important.

One example, In the train job. When Mal is caught by the marshal returning the stolen medical supplies. ( stealing was wrong, but then the entire situation became apparent ) the marshal says " A person may take a job not knowing what it is, but then they have a choice " the Mal says " I don't believe that they do "

Great lines, and I think an object lesson about morality as well.


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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:33 PM

RAINSTICK


i think it would make it easier to decide what was "safe" to watch if you considered what that relative usually does and doesn't watch on TV.
it's kind of funny that what most people here suggest is avoiding the episodes with nudity in order to respect that person's religious sensitivity. at the same time they see nothing wrong with showing the same person episodes that depict or mention murder, GBH, cannibalism, theft, burglary, smuggling, prostitution (even without showing nudity Inara herself is problematic?), blasphemy (bible's broken)...
those are things that a religious person should normally object to in a film or on TV, but all people worry about is the nudity. strange

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Thursday, June 5, 2008 2:40 PM

KIMURI42


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Monday, June 16, 2008 7:04 AM

GIXXER


Would it be wrong to suggest the "tied to a chair with eyelids taped open" route?

Watching a decent script delivered by a decent cast can't be anything but entirely decent.

And surely, wasn't the Bible in "Our Mrs Reynolds" described as Good?

So what if it's got a bit of an edge to it? It won't kill you and you won't go to the Bad Fire for watching it.

I've been to America and seen bits of some real whacko holy TV Channels. Utterly fascinating, but you'd never want to actually watch them in cold blood.

I don't object to the preachiness (that is, after all, Its Job), but the whole experience was like drinking a gallon of warm milk with some cornflour stirred into it.

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Monday, June 16, 2008 9:44 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by rainstick:
i think it would make it easier to decide what was "safe" to watch if you considered what that relative usually does and doesn't watch on TV.
it's kind of funny that what most people here suggest is avoiding the episodes with nudity in order to respect that person's religious sensitivity. at the same time they see nothing wrong with showing the same person episodes that depict or mention murder, GBH, cannibalism, theft, burglary, smuggling, prostitution (even without showing nudity Inara herself is problematic?), blasphemy (bible's broken)...
those are things that a religious person should normally object to in a film or on TV, but all people worry about is the nudity. strange


Well the OP mentioned a sex scene as a problem. So, I sorta focused on things like that. There's plenty of violence to worry about too. It's not a G rated show. It doesn't matter if the overall message is good or not. Some people just don't like sex and violence in their TV. I don't see why we should judge them for it.

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Monday, June 16, 2008 1:03 PM

RAINSTICK


I don't want to judge people as such, i am just wondering why especially Americans worry so much about TV scenes that potentially beget people more than about scenes that potentially kill them.

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Monday, June 16, 2008 3:47 PM

WYTCHCROFT


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
The Bible says that we were told to be fruitful and multiply. Do you think God intended for us to do that with our clothes on?





not -

necessarily -

but.. that

can be..


fun...

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