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Marvel's classification of heroes and supreme beings

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Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:31 PM

AURAPTOR

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So I'm watching the Thor:Ragnarok teaser, and then some follow up vids explaining what's all going on w/ in the teaser.

As one who doesn't keep up w/ the comic book canon and backstories of all that goes on, it's dawned on me that heroes and villains range from mere humans with unique abilities, super humans, near immortals to godlike creatures.

From the MCU, we have the likes of Black Widow and Hawkeye - folks with skill sets, but still just human. Iron Man isn't even all that much, with out his suit, besides a billionaire, playboy, philanthropist... Then we have the altered humans , Capt. America, Hulk, Spider-man.

Next come the near immortals, like Asgardians ? Thor is mightier than most, save for Odin, who himself is at near god like levels of power.

Then what next... Thanos, Galactus ?


Just curious, but IS there a one true ' supreme ' being out there ? Because all these powers these characters have, one more amazing than the next, reminds me of the video comparing our sun to the large and larger stars in the cosmos, until we find the ridiculously large hyper giants.

And back to Thor... should he ever carry on, and one day TRULY take the throne from Odin, will that mean he's achieved Odin like powers ? Is that something he grows into ? Or must it be given to him ?

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Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:19 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

So I'm watching the Thor:Ragnarok teaser, and then some follow up vids explaining what's all going on w/ in the teaser.

As one who doesn't keep up w/ the comic book canon and backstories of all that goes on, it's dawned on me that heroes and villains range from mere humans with unique abilities, super humans, near immortals to godlike creatures.

From the MCU, we have the likes of Black Widow and Hawkeye - folks with skill sets, but still just human. Iron Man isn't even all that much, with out his suit, besides a billionaire, playboy, philanthropists... Then we have the altered humans , Capt. America, Hulk, Spider-man.

Next come the near immortals, like Asgardians ? Thor is mightier than most, save for Odin, who himself is at near god like levels of power.

Then what next... Thanos, Galactus ?


Just curious, but IS there a one true ' supreme ' being out there ? Because all these powers these characters have, one more amazing than the next, reminds me of the video comparing our sun to the large and larger stars in the cosmos, until we find the ridiculously large hyper giants.

And back to Thor... should he ever carry on, and one day TRULY take the throne from Odin, will that mean he's achieved Odin like powers ? Is that something he grows into ? Or must it be given to him ?


I find it curious that you leave out any mention of aliens. You know, like Superman or Asgardians.
If all known lifeforms are humanoid, but we don't have the same powers, does that mean we were the cast-offs, the slaves, of those we descended from? If there is one God, then perhaps all lifeforms were made in his image. But with varying degrees of his God power.

This might also broker the division of Sci-Fi (Spidey, Capt. America, Hulk) versus Fantasy (the non-Terran powerful).

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Saturday, April 15, 2017 7:34 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I find it curious that you leave out any mention of aliens. You know, like Superman or Asgardians.



Hey, I did mention the Asgardians, Thor and Odin. As well as Thanos, Galactus...

Superman is D.C.... duh ! But the same logic applies, I reckon.

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If all known lifeforms are humanoid, but we don't have the same powers, does that mean we were the cast-offs, the slaves, of those we descended from? If there is one God, then perhaps all lifeforms were made in his image. But with varying degrees of his God power.

This might also broker the division of Sci-Fi (Spidey, Capt. America, Hulk) versus Fantasy (the non-Terran powerful).



But we've already seen the cross over of those 2, several times, in the MCU. Peter Quill ( Starlord ) in Guardians of the Galaxy. Thor , who has been to Earth going back 1000's of years? Also, Thanos working w/ Loki, in a attempt to conquer the Earth involving all the Avengers, and which leads us to the next step, Thor and Hulk fighting on an alien world.

And let's not forget Dr Strange, working with Thor too, which leads us to a showdown between Thor, Loki and Hela...

But in the teaser, there were background hints at The Celestials, and other cosmic level beings. The Elders, like The Collector and The Grandmaster...

http://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2a6a47924cc0843750e599d989350619-
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I mean, seriously. How can Captain America or Hawkeye even begin to deal w/ the likes of them ?

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Sunday, April 16, 2017 12:31 PM

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Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:43 PM

AURAPTOR

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This is bigger than rooster, hen, chicken. WAY bigger.

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Monday, April 17, 2017 7:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I find it curious that you leave out any mention of aliens. You know, like Superman or Asgardians.



Hey, I did mention the Asgardians, Thor and Odin. As well as Thanos, Galactus...

Superman is D.C.... duh ! But the same logic applies, I reckon.

Quote:


If all known lifeforms are humanoid, but we don't have the same powers, does that mean we were the cast-offs, the slaves, of those we descended from? If there is one God, then perhaps all lifeforms were made in his image. But with varying degrees of his God power.

This might also broker the division of Sci-Fi (Spidey, Capt. America, Hulk) versus Fantasy (the non-Terran powerful).



But we've already seen the cross over of those 2, several times, in the MCU. Peter Quill ( Starlord ) in Guardians of the Galaxy. Thor , who has been to Earth going back 1000's of years? Also, Thanos working w/ Loki, in a attempt to conquer the Earth involving all the Avengers, and which leads us to the next step, Thor and Hulk fighting on an alien world.

And let's not forget Dr Strange, working with Thor too, which leads us to a showdown between Thor, Loki and Hela...

But in the teaser, there were background hints at The Celestrials, and other cosmic level beings. The Elders, like The Collector and The Grandmaster...

http://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2a6a47924cc0843750e599d989350619-
c?convert_to_webp=true



I mean, seriously. How can Captain America or Hawkeye even begin to deal w/ the likes of them ?


Your post undercuts your prior post.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
As one who doesn't keep up w/ the comic book canon and backstories of all that goes on,


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Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:07 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Your post undercuts your prior post.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
As one who doesn't keep up w/ the comic book canon and backstories of all that goes on,




How so ? Because I know the difference between DC and Marvel ?



By backstories and " canon ", I just mean I have not heard of much of who most of these characters are, and how they came to be. I only know of Thanos and Starlord because they're in the gorram movies. Doctor Strange ? Captain Marvel ? 1st time I ever heard of them.

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Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:28 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Your post undercuts your prior post.
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
As one who doesn't keep up w/ the comic book canon and backstories of all that goes on,




How so ? Because I know the difference between DC and Marvel ?



By backstories and " canon ", I just mean I have not heard of much of who most of these characters are, and how they came to be. I only know of Thanos and Starlord because they're in the gorram movies. Doctor Strange ? Captain Marvel ? 1st time I ever heard of them.


I meant because you know more than me. But I never claimed to be a scholar of the subject - you just have a bunch of details that I do not.
Not a criticism, just a jab, or poke.

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Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:40 PM

AURAPTOR

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I barely have any "knowledge". I'm just paying attention now because this spring / summer / fall will be a barrage of super-hero movies, seemingly dominated by Marvel.

Guardians Vol 2

Spiderman Homecoming

Thor: Ragnarok

And the whole Guardians / Avengers stuff is going to all come together w/ Infinity War movies.

As one who hasn't picked up a super hero comic book in probably 40 years, all I "know" is what I see on the big screen and what I can watch on YouTube channels, which are dedicated to such topics.

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Saturday, April 22, 2017 10:57 PM

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I red Avenjerz, Spiderman, Captain America, X-Men, Thor, Warlock, Master uv Kung Fu back in the 70z.

Great storyz that coud fuel decadez uv great moviez.

There seemz to be an unstated class system to Marvel'z heroz. Az you listed, they ranje frum humanz with extreem talent to Godz.

But it makes you think - wut coud Odin do agenst sum uv the X-Men, for example, especially Jean Grey/Foenix hoo had the power to alter reality?


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Friday, March 8, 2019 9:07 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Also... per Peter Quill.

His dad is a Celestial. So that makes Peter half ( or part, at least ) immortal. Or he was , as long as Ego was alive, but now...

Peter survived holding an infinity stone. He's half human, not full Celestial, and it would have killed him, it seems, had he not had help from the other Guardians.

If that which does not kill you make you stronger, did Peter gain any ...um power from the POWER stone ? And what of the other Guardians ? From Infinity War, it doesn't seem so.


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