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Four More Avatar Movies announced on April 14, 2016

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Saturday, April 16, 2016 1:02 PM

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The sequel to “Avatar” was originally slated to come out in 2016.

But then it changed to 2017, 2018 and 2019 Christmas holidays.

But then it changed this week to 2018, 2020, 2022, and 2023 Christmas holidays.
http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2016/04/james-cameron-will-make-
four-more-avatar-movies
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With the extra movie, Summer Glau can play Sigourney Weaver’s quadriplegic marine biologist daughter with her very own Avatar. When the 5th sequel is added, Jewel Staite can have her own Avatar. With 6 or more sequels, more Firefly actors can have their Avatars.


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Saturday, April 16, 2016 1:32 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Four more movies I have no interest in seeing. By the time the first sequel comes out most people will have forgotten about Avatar, if they haven't already.



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Saturday, April 16, 2016 1:45 PM

WHOZIT


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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Four more movies I have no interest in seeing. By the time the first sequel comes out most people will have forgotten about Avatar, if they haven't already.





I dunno, the first one is still the #1 flick ever. After the abortion that is B v S and the rehash reboot of "Star Wars" I hope these don't suck.

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Saturday, April 16, 2016 5:04 PM

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I hope these don't suck.

Guess which actor is coming back from the dead for at least three of the sequels?

Stephen Lang! It's like having Arnold Schwarzenegger return from the dead for Terminator.

(If you guessed Sigourney Weaver, you are also correct. Michelle Rodriguez? Incorrect.)

This time Lang lost his rank as Colonel Miles Quaritch. He's just Miles.

Actor (112 credits)
2022 Avatar 4 (pre-production)
Miles Quaritch
2020 Avatar 3 (pre-production)
Miles Quaritch
2018 Avatar 2 (pre-production)
Miles Quaritch
www.imdb.com/name/nm0002332/

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Sunday, April 17, 2016 9:28 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Four more movies I have no interest in seeing.



Amen brother ben!

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Friday, December 16, 2022 9:25 AM

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Avatar 2 has arrived.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/253220830-Theater-counts-Avatar-Way-o
f-Water-makes-landfall-in-4-202-theaters


In the first Avatar movie, Jake had been temporarily transferring his consciousness into his avatar. The big reveal at the end of Avatar was that Jake could also permanently transfer his consciousness to his avatar. The next movie builds upon the transfer and shows

Select to view spoiler:


that reincarnation is real.



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Friday, December 16, 2022 9:37 AM

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Avatar: The Way of Water reminds us that blockbusters don’t have to look absolutely terrible

Finally, a big movie that looks like something.

Written by Alissa Wilkinson, who is a member of the New York Film Critics Circle and the National Society of Film Critics.

I hated the first Avatar movie — like, hated it. It came out in 2009, and I remember tearing off my 3D glasses at its conclusion, livid that I had paid around $18 to watch Dances With Wolves but with blue people. All blockbusters recycle a certain set of tropes, but for some reason Avatar felt trite and silly, as if its much-vaunted groundbreaking visuals were a smokescreen to the fact that nobody remembered to come up with a story that matched.

I overreacted. I know that now. I rewatched Avatar a few weeks ago (on my 3D TV, purchased in the brief period when you could get a 3D TV) and sure, it’s trite and worn. The images are naturally outdated, as to be expected; at this point, it resembles most video games. But what sticks out now is that it looks like something, the product of a fertile visual imagination — James Cameron’s — that thrives on going for broke.

Of course, blockbusters only have one actual purpose: to make money, a great deal of it, as quickly as possible. But audiences don’t care about the box office returns; we’re there to feel something. Some blockbusters generate a feeling of togetherness and belonging. Others inspire terror, or gut-busting laughter. But for my money, the best thing a blockbuster can achieve is an overwhelming sense of awe.

Awe is what’s missing in most of today’s blockbusters. It’s hard to find a movie that truly leaves your jaw on the ground through sheer invention, rather than just giving you what you expect, because by now, we’ve seen everything. Soaring spaceships or pow-punching superheroes can still be cool, but they’re not new or surprising. We’ve had decades of gargantuan dinosaurs and monsters with dripping teeth, of massive blow-out fights and ferocious beasts. It’s still rad to watch Tom Cruise jump out of flying contraptions, but I’m not in awe of the image, just tickled by the spectacle of watching a famous actor perform increasingly deranged stunts. Add to that the muddy and confused look of many contemporary blockbusters, movies with little to no visual style to speak of — yes, I speak here of most movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe — and big-screen awe is vanishingly rare.

I think that explains why, despite its myriad deficiencies, I have to cheer at the arrival of Avatar: The Way of Water, 13 years after the first installment left me so mad in that multiplex. Its plot is hacky; it’s got some really clunky characters; the dialogue is, at times, unthinkably stupid. (“The way of water connects all things” is the kind of line that sounds profound until you really think about it.) But this new Avatar filled an awe-shaped void in my heart, and for that, I thank James Cameron.

More at https://www.vox.com/culture/23509385/avatar-2-way-water-review-frame-r
ate-hfr


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Friday, December 16, 2022 11:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
But what sticks out now is that it looks like something, the product of a fertile visual imagination — James Cameron’s — that thrives on going for broke.



If broke is what Avatar 2 is going for, mission accomplished.

There will be no more Avatar movies after the second.

Maybe they'll reboot it 20 or 30 years from now after Cameron is dead.


Even if it somehow manages to dethrone Top Gun: Maverick as the largest grossing movie of 2022, it would still have to make another half-Billion dollars just to break even.

This box office failure will kill Cameron's career. A once great career that has been dying for 20 years now.

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Friday, December 16, 2022 12:29 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Four more movies I have no interest in seeing.



will it Flop?

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Monday, December 19, 2022 8:24 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
But what sticks out now is that it looks like something, the product of a fertile visual imagination — James Cameron’s — that thrives on going for broke.



If broke is what Avatar 2 is going for, mission accomplished.

There will be no more Avatar movies after the second.

Maybe they'll reboot it 20 or 30 years from now after Cameron is dead.


Even if it somehow manages to dethrone Top Gun: Maverick as the largest grossing movie of 2022, it would still have to make another half-Billion dollars just to break even.

This box office failure will kill Cameron's career. A once great career that has been dying for 20 years now.

If Avatar doesn't sell $2 billion in tickets, Cameron will claim he is poor, but he is lying to protect himself from fans and criminals who want some of his wealth from this movie. Cameron doesn't want the IRS to know how much he made, either. That way he can claim a false income number on his tax returns, just like Trump would.

Domestic Box Office $134,000,000
International Box Office $300,500,000
Worldwide Box Office $434,500,000 for December 18th, 2022
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Avatar-The-Way-of-Water-(2022)#tab=s
ummary


As you can see above, Ticket sales are public knowledge. Disney won't publicize the number but it knows exactly how much a movie costs to market and make. If James Cameron won't say the number, it is because he is a greedy lying sack of shit who does not want the IRS to know how much richer he will be after this movie closes in the theaters. The only answer Cameron would give about the sequel’s budget when asked by GQ magazine was the following: “Very fucking [expensive].”
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/avatar-2-budget-expensive-2-billion
-turn-profit-1235438907
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Tuesday, December 20, 2022 11:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Okay.

Disney stock hasn't been this low since the middle of 2014, but I'm sure Avatar's disappointing opening weekend had nothing to do with that.



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Friday, December 23, 2022 7:55 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Filmed Her ‘Avatar 2’ pre-Covid pre-Woke SJW Virtue Signal islamo gay Diversity Role 4 Years Ago
and She Thought Movie Already Came Out and Flopped


The Surprising Reason Edie Falco Thought Avatar Sequel Was a Flop

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/surprising-reason-edie-falco-thoug
ht-190900873.html



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Friday, December 23, 2022 10:01 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I don't know anything about her politics, but that's pretty based that she just didn't care.

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 7:22 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Even if it somehow manages to dethrone Top Gun: Maverick as the largest grossing movie of 2022 . . .

Worldwide Box Office

$1,487,575,965 Top Gun Maverick (after all)
$1,401,317,914 Avatar 2 (after 2 weeks)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Avatar-The-Way-o
f-Water-(2022)/Top-Gun-Maverick-(2020)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 10:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah. I guess there's no accounting for stupid.

Congrats. Enjoy your sequels whenever they came out.

Eventually there was going to be a movie that came out that I was wrong about and you were right about.

But you see, unlike you, I will come back in here and admit I was wrong. I don't just disappear like you do.

This is how adults act, Second.

Thank you James Cameron, for presenting this learning opportunity for Second.



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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 3:24 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. I guess there's no accounting for stupid.

Congrats. Enjoy your sequels whenever they came out.

Eventually there was going to be a movie that came out that I was wrong about and you were right about.

But you see, unlike you, I will come back in here and admit I was wrong. I don't just disappear like you do.

This is how adults act, Second.

Thank you James Cameron, for presenting this learning opportunity for Second.

6ix, you make predictions. Too many. Adults don’t do that. What do they do, instead, to show adulthood? Adults make promises that they keep. (Non-adults make major promises that they conveniently forget. The majority of Americans forget their most important promises, either the ones expressed, such as in marriage or the ones implied such as you won't lie and won't make false accusations and won't live as worthless a life as you can get away with when free to be as you want.) Here is 6ix making predictions:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

This box office failure will kill Cameron's career. A once great career that has been dying for 20 years now.

Cameron keeps his promises. All four scripts for Avatar were written and approved by 20th Century before shooting started. Exactly as an adult would, Cameron will make the movies as written.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Disney stock hasn't been this low since the middle of 2014, but I'm sure Avatar's disappointing opening weekend had nothing to do with that.

6ix, you didn’t notice that Disney stock follows the S&P 500, but with far greater volatility. S&P 500 was down 20% for 2022 and so Disney was down by even more. This is how Disney has always been.
https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?authuser=0&compa
rison=NYSE%3ADIS&window=MAX


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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 2:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh... You don't want to go there, buddy.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=64718

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The big question about Lightyear is who is sticking it in who's butt for kids to see.

The second biggest question is has Disney tarnished their brand so badly that they will have their first Toy Story flop.

The third biggest question is will Disney learn from their mistakes when it doesn't meet expectations.

Expectations, 6ix? This is NOT Toy Story 5. Disney will be fine. The trailer for Lightyear hints that the scriptwriter saw Planet of the Apes. Buzz Lightyear travels at hyperspeed, left only 4 minutes ago, but returns 62 years, 7 months into the future. Things have changed for the worst, but it is not intelligent apes causing problems. Unlike Charlton Heston, who could not save the planet because he got beat up by gorillas, Chris Evans as Buzz Lightyear is gonna kick James Brolin's giant robot butt.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There are always expectations.

Disney hasn't met them with most of their recent flicks, especially the Marvel trash they've been putting out.

Let's see how badly they want to stop losing money. If they put any Leftist agenda shit in there you can bet that they're going to have their first Toy Story branded loser on their hands.



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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There are always expectations.

Disney hasn't met them with most of their recent flicks, especially the Marvel trash they've been putting out.

Let's see how badly they want to stop losing money. If they put any Leftist agenda shit in there you can bet that they're going to have their first Toy Story branded loser on their hands.

6ix, you don't have money, which is why Disney doesn't produce entertainment to please you. You are worthless to Disney unless you have money to buy a ticket. That is how free market capitalism has always worked.

Disney’s decision to oppose Florida’s “don’t say gay” law is all about appealing to Disney’s consumers. Republicans who most yearn to make America “great” again — aging, rural, white men — are at the bottom of the consumer totem pole and lack the financial clout to swing the free market. Conservatives just can’t handle the fact that their political ideology is toxic to people who buy tickets for Disney World and Disney movies.

Fox News agitator Laura Ingraham had previously warned that if companies like Disney didn’t “stay in their lane” — focusing on maximizing profit, but shutting up about politics — “everything will be on the table” if Republicans return to power in November, including “your copyright and trademark protection, your special status within certain states, and even your corporate structure itself.” GOP Senator Marsha Blackburn denounced Disney’s criticism as “how the woke left extremists are using corporations to push their agenda.”

Here’s the irony, though: While Disney controls municipal functions in Reedy Creek, its special tax district, it also foots the bill — for the fire department, sewer treatment, and so on. The elimination of that special status thus will save Disney $163 million annually, passing on $1 billion in debt to taxpayers in Orange and Osceola counties and forcing massive local tax hikes. So what in the name of Adam Smith’s invisible hand is going on here?

https://newrepublic.com/article/166186/florida-republicans-revoke-disn
ey-special-tax-status-lost-faith-free-market


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ix, you don't have money, which is why Disney doesn't produce entertainment to please you. You are worthless to Disney unless you have money to buy a ticket. That is how free market capitalism has always worked.



I have money. Not to spend on that though.

Why don't you post more links of your pirated Firefly stuff, you piece of shit?

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Disney’s decision to oppose Florida’s “don’t say gay” law is all about appealing to Disney’s consumers.


No it's not. It's pissing off the people who used to pay to see Disney.

Look at their stock prices.

Democrats and Leftists are done, buddy. Expect the new Bob to be fired from his position at Disney and a huge change in the corporate structure to occur over the next year. Disney is tired of losing money, pandering to a woke Titter mob that doesn't bring them any cash.

I didn't bother reading the rest of your bullshit, as per usual.

We'll see the box office results of this woke dumpster fire and I'll give you my I Told You Sos then.

You've accumulated quite a collection of them so far, haven't you?



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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There are always expectations.

Disney hasn't met them with most of their recent flicks, especially the Marvel trash they've been putting out.

Let's see how badly they want to stop losing money. If they put any Leftist agenda shit in there you can bet that they're going to have their first Toy Story branded loser on their hands.

6ix, you don't have money, which is why Disney doesn't produce entertainment to please you. You are worthless to Disney unless you have money to buy a ticket. That is how free market capitalism has always worked.

Disney’s decision to oppose Florida’s “don’t say gay” law is all about appealing to Disney’s consumers. Republicans who most yearn to make America “great” again — aging, rural, white men — are at the bottom of the consumer totem pole and lack the financial clout to swing the free market. Conservatives just can’t handle the fact that their political ideology is toxic to people who buy tickets for Disney World and Disney movies.




I love it when time passes...


Lightyear didn't even place 1st in its opening weekend. I guess Disney didn't make it for anybody.

Darn those toxic white males who didn't go to see it!!!!

I guess the market that Disney panders to just torrented it like you did, you pirate.



Lightyear takes 2nd place to the Jurassic world reboot sequel trash movie that's been out for 2 weeks and almost takes third place behind Top Gun: Maverick which has been out for 7 weeks already.

https://www.the-numbers.com/weekend-box-office-chart



Disney is sitting at over $94 per share right now, which is half of what it was worth back in September of last year.

How do you suppose running another one of its biggest properties into the ground is going to treat shareholders come next week?



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And we never saw Second in that thread again...




And Lightyear's final total?

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Lightyear-(2022)#tab=summary

$218,768,299 worldwide on a $200,000,000 production budget.

It LOST Disney over $200 Million after marketing and theater costs.

How are the DVD/BluRay sales going? They ain't helping none. $2,255,799. Wowie!





What about their super-ultra gay movie Strange World?

$65,567,174 worldwide on a hidden budget.

The budget was $135–180 million, as is estimated online. This one lost Disney $300 Million.



That's half a billion thrown right in the trash for just two woke agenda flicks. Avatar 2 would have to make $2.5 Billion just to make Disney whole after that loss.



FYI, Disney stock is at $88 right now. And that's after a rally.

Plenty of my predictions come true. Especially in the cinema.


And Disney doesn't really even get to call this one a win since it was its FOX subsidiary that was in charge of it. Just like No Way Home... the only Marvel flick in over a year that met expectations.

Every Marvel flick and TV show that came out in 2022 was a disappointment for Disney at best, and an abject failure losing hundreds of millions at worst.

Keep on making things that aren't made for me Disney and see where it gets you.



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6ix, you didn’t notice that Disney stock follows the S&P 500, but with far greater volatility. S&P 500 was down 20% for 2022 and so Disney was down by even more. This is how Disney has always been.


FALSE

Disney's all-time high was March 12th of 2021 at $197.16. Today it is $88.97.

Disney stock is worth 45.13% of what it was worth on March 12th of 2021.

The S&P was $3943.34 on March 12th of 2021. Today it is at $3824.14.

The S&P is worth 96.98% of what it was worth on March 12th of 2021.




And don't talk to me about promises, shitheel. If you are even half the garbage person in real life that you are online, nobody in your life trusts you or thinks highly of you at all.

And this:
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Cameron will make the movies as written.


No. He doesn't. He already removed a 10 minute scene from Avatar 2 before you even saw it because "muh guns".

Yeah. The same guy who made his name with Aliens and Terminator, pulling the ladder up after him after he made his millions.

Fuck James Cameron.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 7:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Quote:

6ix, you didn’t notice that Disney stock follows the S&P 500, but with far greater volatility. S&P 500 was down 20% for 2022 and so Disney was down by even more. This is how Disney has always been.


FALSE

Disney's all-time high was March 12th of 2021 at $197.16. Today it is $88.97.

Disney stock is worth 45.13% of what it was worth on March 12th of 2021.

The S&P was $3943.34 on March 12th of 2021. Today it is at $3824.14.

The S&P is worth 96.98% of what it was worth on March 12th of 2021.

Over the last 5 days the S&P 500 is up 0.17% and Disney is up 6.56%. That is "volatility". Over most time periods (a day, a week, a month, a year) Disney will move in the same direction as the S&P 500 but much more than the market index.

S&P 500 closed today at 3,842.85

Walt Disney Co closed today at $91.97

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?authuser=0&compa
rison=NYSE%3ADIS&window=5D


https://finbox.com/NYSE:DIS/explorer/indexes

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 11:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Quote:

6ix, you didn’t notice that Disney stock follows the S&P 500, but with far greater volatility. S&P 500 was down 20% for 2022 and so Disney was down by even more. This is how Disney has always been.


FALSE

Disney's all-time high was March 12th of 2021 at $197.16. Today it is $88.97.

Disney stock is worth 45.13% of what it was worth on March 12th of 2021.

The S&P was $3943.34 on March 12th of 2021. Today it is at $3824.14.

The S&P is worth 96.98% of what it was worth on March 12th of 2021.

Over the last 5 days the S&P 500 is up 0.17% and Disney is up 6.56%. That is "volatility". Over most time periods (a day, a week, a month, a year) Disney will move in the same direction as the S&P 500 but much more than the market index.

S&P 500 closed today at 3,842.85

Walt Disney Co closed today at $91.97

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?authuser=0&compa
rison=NYSE%3ADIS&window=5D


https://finbox.com/NYSE:DIS/explorer/indexes

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




All stocks are volatile when compared to other stocks on a daily basis you fuckin' goon. And any individual stock is going to be much more volatile than a collection of 500 stocks. This isn't some magical status that Disney holds vs. the other 499 stocks in the S&P.

Long term is what matters unless you fancy your dumb ass a day trader.


So let's play. I'll revise the numbers for the day.

Disney's all-time high was March 12th of 2021 at $197.16. Today it is $91.97.

Disney stock is worth 46.65% of what it was worth on March 12th of 2021.

The S&P was $3943.34 on March 12th of 2021. Today it is at $3,842.85.

The S&P is worth 97.45% of what it was worth on March 12th of 2021.


What's your fuckin' point, small brain?


And I'll take the fact that you took all day to reply to this one single point of my last post as your concession to all the other points made in the post.

I win again. And again, and again, and again...

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I win again. And again, and again, and again...

6ix, you are Lucy from the Peanuts comics. A book used Lucy to illustrate a point about rationality: https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1955/01/20

Because you don't click links, 6ix, here is the dialog:

Lucy: Look, Charlie Brown! The snow is coming up!

Charlie Brown: It’s not coming up, Lucy. It’s falling down from the sky!

Lucy: Don’t be so stupid! That’s just the wind blowing it around! It’s coming up! It’s coming right up out of the ground!

Lucy: I was right! I was right!

Charlie Brown: I better go home. My stomach is beginning to hurt.

The Peanuts comic illustrated a point in Rationality: What It Is, Why It Seems Scarce, Why It Matters

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Friday, January 6, 2023 9:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I win again. And again, and again, and again...

6ix, you are Lucy from the Peanuts comics. A book used Lucy to illustrate a point about rationality: https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1955/01/20

Because you don't click links, 6ix, here is the dialog:

Lucy: Look, Charlie Brown! The snow is coming up!

Charlie Brown: It’s not coming up, Lucy. It’s falling down from the sky!

Lucy: Don’t be so stupid! That’s just the wind blowing it around! It’s coming up! It’s coming right up out of the ground!

Lucy: I was right! I was right!

Charlie Brown: I better go home. My stomach is beginning to hurt.

The Peanuts comic illustrated a point in Rationality: What It Is, Why It Seems Scarce, Why It Matters

Download the free book from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.pet/search.php?req=Rationality+What+It+Is+Why
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




That just may be the dumbest reply of yours to date.

I wouldn't even be replying to it if it weren't to thank you for putting out more copyrighted material for "free" and showing us how the "richest man on fff.net" doesn't pay for anything.





This is probably why Avatar 2 succeeded. It's the first movie that the Leftoid woketards cheerleaded and actually paid to see in the theaters.

Fuck James Cameron, but you've got to admire the dude's ability to get the normies AND the woketards out to see one of his films. Nobody else in Hollywood appears to have cracked that code.

Looking very much forward to his dickless and gunless, soy-fueled Terminator reboot.

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This is probably why Avatar 2 succeeded. It's the first movie that the Leftoid woketards cheerleaded and actually paid to see in the theaters.

I saw a free copy: Avatar.The.Way.Of.Water.2022.UltraHD.HEVC.Dual.YG.mkv (13.2 GB) It is in both Spanish and English. The Spanish soundtrack is 9 out of 10, so that is what I listened to. The English soundtrack is 6/10.

James Cameron Says ‘Avatar 2’ Is Profitable and He’ll Make the Sequels

January 6, 2023 10:19am

“Avatar 3, which is already in the can – we’ve already captured and photographed the whole film so we’re in extended post-production to do all that CG magic. And then Avatar 4 and 5 are both written. We even have some of 4 in the can. We’ve begun a franchise at this point. We’ve begun a saga that can now play out over multiple films.”

Previously, Cameron made headlines by seemingly speculating that The Way of Water would have to earn at least $2 billion at the box office just to break even and justify a sequel. “To clarify, I never actually gave it a number,” Cameron said. “I said it would has to be among the highest-grossing films in history and somebody else applied that number and it got picked up. The number is actually less.”

The director also discussed the idea of his film Titanic as a metaphor for societal indifference to global warming. “The captain died with a pocket full of radio telegram warnings about ice ahead but they still steamed full tilt because they thought they could get away with it and the unthinkable wouldn’t happen – and it happened,” Cameron said. “We live in the 90 seconds between the time they saw the iceberg and when they were unable to turn.”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/james-cameron-avat
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Saturday, January 7, 2023 11:33 AM

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Well, good luck.

You couldn't get me to watch the free one. I've had 13 or so years to watch the first one for free and that never happened.

Maybe people are so bored of superhero flicks finally that it was actually a genius move to brake conventional wisdom and make the sequel 13 years later long after anybody usually cares.


I wish there were more young James Cameron types in Hollywood today. Not the white male apologist near-billionaire version we've got today, but the hungry perfectionist visionary that brought us the original two Alien and Terminator movies, and movies like The Abyss and Strange Days.

I won't be tuning in to see his Terminator reboot either.




At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much Avitar 2 makes. The real number is how much it makes above the costs.

Disney/FOX needs to be honest with that number. Why are they still hiding it despite the current recorded revenue?

Could it be, perhaps, that they're still worried that in the end Top Gun Maverick will still have been a much greater investment for those involved than Avatar 2 ultimately ends up being? That would be terrible news for a company that has already lost so much money in 2022 through a long string of bad movie releases and more than half of their market capital drying up in the stock market.

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Monday, January 9, 2023 7:07 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well, good luck.

You couldn't get me to watch the free one. I've had 13 or so years to watch the first one for free and that never happened.

Maybe people are so bored of superhero flicks finally that it was actually a genius move to brake conventional wisdom and make the sequel 13 years later long after anybody usually cares.


I wish there were more young James Cameron types in Hollywood today. Not the white male apologist near-billionaire version we've got today, but the hungry perfectionist visionary that brought us the original two Alien and Terminator movies, and movies like The Abyss and Strange Days.

I won't be tuning in to see his Terminator reboot either.




At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much Avitar 2 makes. The real number is how much it makes above the costs.

Disney/FOX needs to be honest with that number. Why are they still hiding it despite the current recorded revenue?

Could it be, perhaps, that they're still worried that in the end Top Gun Maverick will still have been a much greater investment for those involved than Avatar 2 ultimately ends up being? That would be terrible news for a company that has already lost so much money in 2022 through a long string of bad movie releases and more than half of their market capital drying up in the stock market.

6ix, you define yourself by your resentments.

And yes, I mean “resentments” rather than “grievances.” Grievances are about things you believe you deserve, and might be diminished if you get some of what you want. Resentment is about feeling that you’re being looked down on, and can only be assuaged by hurting the people you, at some level, envy, such as Hollywood, Disney, James Cameron.

Consider the phrase (and associated sentiment), popular on the right, “owning the libs.” In context, “owning” doesn’t mean defeating progressive policies, say by repealing the Affordable Care Act. It means, instead, humiliating liberals personally — making them look weak and foolish, making their Disney movies (Avatar 2 and plain old Avatar) look like failures.

And does anyone doubt that resentment on the part of those who felt disrespected by Walt Disney and Hollywood was central to the rise of Donald Trump? Are there any pundits left who still believe that it was largely about “economic anxiety”?

I’m not saying that the decline of manufacturing jobs in the heartland was a myth: It really did happen, and it hurt millions of Americans. But the failure of Trump’s trade wars to deliver a manufacturing revival doesn’t seem to have turned off his base. Why?

The likely answer is that Trump’s anti-globalism, his promise to Make America Great Again, had less to do with trade balances and job creation than with a sense that snooty foreigners considered us chumps. (James Cameron is a Canadian. Avatar 2 was filmed in New Zealand. Disney is in California, the state viscerally hated by Trump and his voters.) “The world is laughing at us” was a consistent theme of Trump speeches, and his supporters surely imagined that the same was true of domestic globalist elites.

And I have a theory that Trump’s own underlying ludicrousness, his manifest lack of the intellectual capacity and emotional maturity to be president, was part of what endeared him to his base. You fancy liberals think you’re so smart? Well, we’ll show you, by electing someone you consider a clown!

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Monday, January 9, 2023 1:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well, good luck.

You couldn't get me to watch the free one. I've had 13 or so years to watch the first one for free and that never happened.

Maybe people are so bored of superhero flicks finally that it was actually a genius move to brake conventional wisdom and make the sequel 13 years later long after anybody usually cares.


I wish there were more young James Cameron types in Hollywood today. Not the white male apologist near-billionaire version we've got today, but the hungry perfectionist visionary that brought us the original two Alien and Terminator movies, and movies like The Abyss and Strange Days.

I won't be tuning in to see his Terminator reboot either.




At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much Avitar 2 makes. The real number is how much it makes above the costs.

Disney/FOX needs to be honest with that number. Why are they still hiding it despite the current recorded revenue?

Could it be, perhaps, that they're still worried that in the end Top Gun Maverick will still have been a much greater investment for those involved than Avatar 2 ultimately ends up being? That would be terrible news for a company that has already lost so much money in 2022 through a long string of bad movie releases and more than half of their market capital drying up in the stock market.

6ix, you define yourself by your resentments.

And yes, I mean “resentments” rather than “grievances.” Grievances are about things you believe you deserve, and might be diminished if you get some of what you want. Resentment is about feeling that you’re being looked down on, and can only be assuaged by hurting the people you, at some level, envy, such as Hollywood, Disney, James Cameron.

Consider the phrase (and associated sentiment), popular on the right, “owning the libs.” In context, “owning” doesn’t mean defeating progressive policies, say by repealing the Affordable Care Act. It means, instead, humiliating liberals personally — making them look weak and foolish, making their Disney movies (Avatar 2 and plain old Avatar) look like failures.

And does anyone doubt that resentment on the part of those who felt disrespected by Walt Disney and Hollywood was central to the rise of Donald Trump? Are there any pundits left who still believe that it was largely about “economic anxiety”?

I’m not saying that the decline of manufacturing jobs in the heartland was a myth: It really did happen, and it hurt millions of Americans. But the failure of Trump’s trade wars to deliver a manufacturing revival doesn’t seem to have turned off his base. Why?

The likely answer is that Trump’s anti-globalism, his promise to Make America Great Again, had less to do with trade balances and job creation than with a sense that snooty foreigners considered us chumps. (James Cameron is a Canadian. Avatar 2 was filmed in New Zealand. Disney is in California, the state viscerally hated by Trump and his voters.) “The world is laughing at us” was a consistent theme of Trump speeches, and his supporters surely imagined that the same was true of domestic globalist elites.

And I have a theory that Trump’s own underlying ludicrousness, his manifest lack of the intellectual capacity and emotional maturity to be president, was part of what endeared him to his base. You fancy liberals think you’re so smart? Well, we’ll show you, by electing someone you consider a clown!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Haha! I just read the article that you plagiarized here. Give me a minute. I'll find it.



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Monday, January 9, 2023 1:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ix, you define yourself by your resentments.

And yes, I mean “resentments” rather than “grievances.” Grievances are about things you believe you deserve, and might be diminished if you get some of what you want. Resentment is about feeling that you’re being looked down on, and can only be assuaged by hurting the people you, at some level, envy, such as Hollywood, Disney, James Cameron.

Consider the phrase (and associated sentiment), popular on the right, “owning the libs.” In context, “owning” doesn’t mean defeating progressive policies, say by repealing the Affordable Care Act. It means, instead, humiliating liberals personally — making them look weak and foolish, making their Disney movies (Avatar 2 and plain old Avatar) look like failures.

And does anyone doubt that resentment on the part of those who felt disrespected by Walt Disney and Hollywood was central to the rise of Donald Trump? Are there any pundits left who still believe that it was largely about “economic anxiety”?

I’m not saying that the decline of manufacturing jobs in the heartland was a myth: It really did happen, and it hurt millions of Americans. But the failure of Trump’s trade wars to deliver a manufacturing revival doesn’t seem to have turned off his base. Why?

The likely answer is that Trump’s anti-globalism, his promise to Make America Great Again, had less to do with trade balances and job creation than with a sense that snooty foreigners considered us chumps. (James Cameron is a Canadian. Avatar 2 was filmed in New Zealand. Disney is in California, the state viscerally hated by Trump and his voters.) “The world is laughing at us” was a consistent theme of Trump speeches, and his supporters surely imagined that the same was true of domestic globalist elites.

And I have a theory that Trump’s own underlying ludicrousness, his manifest lack of the intellectual capacity and emotional maturity to be president, was part of what endeared him to his base. You fancy liberals think you’re so smart? Well, we’ll show you, by electing someone you consider a clown!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Haha! I just read the article that you plagiarized here. Give me a minute. I'll find it.





....


Ah... There it is.

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2023/jan/07/paul-krugman-republica
ns-are-making-the-us-small
/

It's written by your boy Krugman too. I knew it wouldn't take long before he'd make an ass out of himself after showing he might have a redemption arc.

Let's see exactly what you stole from Krugman's article for your own here...

(Feel free, everyone, to compare the underlined paragraphs to Second's post above)



Quote:

Like many liberals, I'm feeling a fair bit of MAGAfreude: taking some pleasure in the self-destruction of the American right.

There has never been a spectacle like the chaos we've seen in the House of Representatives this week. It had been a century since a speaker wasn't chosen on the first ballot. The last time that happened, there was an actual substantive dispute: Republican progressives (they existed back then) demanded, and eventually received, procedural reforms that they hoped would favor their agenda.

This time, there has been no significant dispute about policy; Kevin McCarthy and his opponents agree on key policy issues like investigating Hunter Biden's laptop and depriving the Internal Revenue Service of the resources it needs to go after wealthy tax cheats. Long after he tried to appease his opponents by surrendering his dignity, the voting went on.

While the spectacle has been amazing and, yes, entertaining, neither I nor many other liberals are experiencing the kind of glee Republicans would be feeling if the parties' roles were reversed.

Liberals want the U.S. government to function, which means that we need a duly constituted House of Representatives, even if it's run by people we don't like. I don't think there are many on the U.S. left (such as it is) who define themselves the way so many on the right do: by their resentments.

Yes, I mean "resentments" rather than "grievances." Grievances are about things you believe you deserve, and might be diminished if you get some of what you want. Resentment is about feeling that you're being looked down on, and can only be assuaged by hurting the people you envy.

Consider the phrase (and associated sentiment), popular on the right, "owning the libs." In context, "owning" doesn't mean defeating progressive policies, such as by repealing the Affordable Care Act. It means, instead, humiliating liberals personally--making them look weak and foolish.


I won't claim that liberals are immune to such sentiments. But liberals have never seemed remotely as interested in humiliating conservatives as conservatives are in humiliating liberals. And a substantial part of what has been going on in the House seems to be that some Republicans who expected to own the libs after a red wave election have acted out their disappointment by owning Kevin McCarthy instead.

Does anyone doubt that resentment on the part of those who felt disrespected was central to the rise of Donald Trump? Are there any pundits left who still believe that it was largely about "economic anxiety"?

I'm not saying that the decline of manufacturing jobs in the heartland was a myth. It really did happen, and hurt millions of Americans. But the failure of Trump's trade wars to deliver a manufacturing revival doesn't seem to have turned off his base. Why?

The likely answer is that Trump's anti-globalism, his promise to Make America Great Again, had less to do with trade balances and job creation than with a sense that snooty foreigners considered us chumps. "The world is laughing at us" was a consistent theme of Trump speeches, and his supporters surely imagined that the same was true of domestic globalist elites.

And I have a theory that Trump's own underlying ludicrousness, his manifest lack of the intellectual capacity and emotional maturity to be president, was part of what endeared him to his base. You fancy liberals think you're so smart? Well, we'll show you, by electing someone you consider a clown!


The irony is that the MAGA movement has succeeded beyond the wildest dreams of sinister globalists (if any exist) in making America the opposite of great. Right now the world really is laughing at us, although it's terrified, too. America is still the essential nation on multiple fronts. When the world's greatest economic and military power seemingly can't even get a functioning government up and running, the risks are global.

Even with a speaker in place, how likely is it that the people we've been watching the past few days will agree to raise the debt ceiling, even if failing to do so creates a huge financial crisis? And there may be many other risks requiring emergency congressional action even before we get to that point.

The world is laughing even harder at Republicans, both the ultraright refuseniks and the spineless careerists like McCarthy who helped empower the crazies. For what shall it profit a man if he shall lose his own soul and still not gain enough votes to become speaker of the House?

I'm not sure what we are in store for, nor is anyone else. One thing is sure, however: America is already less great than it was when Nancy Pelosi ran the House, and it's shrinking by the day.






HOLY SHIT, DUDE.

As your Professor in the School of Hard knocks, you get an "F" for plagiarism.


See... I told you I read media from both sides. Maybe you should try it yourself instead of LITERALLY writing exactly what other people write, and apparently program your brain with.


I recommend that you just shut the fuck up and take the BIG FUCKING "L" now.

Before somebody starts doing some digging and finding out just how often you rip off other people's articles and pretend that they're your thoughts.

Oh... wait. They are your thoughts. They're just not Second Originals.



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Worldwide Box Office

$1,708,928,365 Avatar: The Way of Water
$1,487,575,965 Top Gun: Maverick

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Avatar-The-Way-o
f-Water-(2022)/Top-Gun-Maverick-(2020)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


6ix, didn't you vote for Trump? I know you voted for Top Gun: Maverick. Why? Same reason as for Trump? Trump's own underlying ludicrousness, his manifest lack of the intellectual capacity and emotional maturity to be president, was part of what endeared him to his base. You fancy liberals think you're so smart? Well, we'll show you, by electing someone you consider a clown!

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Who'd you steal that from?




Trust me dude. This is going to be fun. I'm going to get a lot of enjoyment figuring out where you steal all of your replies from going forward.

You're a fucking loser.




Meanwhile, in reality...

Top Gun: Maverick made $1.15 Billion profit.

Avatar 2 still is in the hole nearly $300 Million.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who'd you steal that from?




Trust me dude. This is going to be fun. I'm going to get a lot of enjoyment figuring out where you steal all of your replies from going forward.

You're a fucking loser.




Meanwhile, in reality...

Top Gun: Maverick made $1.15 Billion profit.

Avatar 2 still is in the hole nearly $300 Million.

You are off by about one billion dollars, 6ix, in your profit calculation. In the U.S., the theaters take 50% of the gross. The rest is divided up with Tom Cruise, Paramount, Skydance, Don Simpson/Jerry Bruckheimer Films, and A Joseph Kosinski Film. How do you figure profit when 50% of the gross is divided so many different ways? There are tax reasons for all these people to claim they did NOT make a profit on this movie, that the other guys made it all. I am certain that the IRS has no idea what the profit truly is when everybody is lying to the IRS.

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Monday, January 9, 2023 10:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who'd you steal that from?




Trust me dude. This is going to be fun. I'm going to get a lot of enjoyment figuring out where you steal all of your replies from going forward.

You're a fucking loser.




Meanwhile, in reality...

Top Gun: Maverick made $1.15 Billion profit.

Avatar 2 still is in the hole nearly $300 Million.

You are off by about one billion dollars, 6ix, in your profit calculation. In the U.S., the theaters take 50% of the gross. The rest is divided up with Tom Cruise, Paramount, Skydance, Don Simpson/Jerry Bruckheimer Films, and A Joseph Kosinski Film. How do you figure profit when 50% of the gross is divided so many different ways? There are tax reasons for all these people to claim they did NOT make a profit on this movie, that the other guys made it all. I am certain that the IRS has no idea what the profit truly is when everybody is lying to the IRS.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Production Budget for Top Gun: Maverick was $170 Million. That includes all salaries, including Tom's. Common rule of thumb is that you double the Production Budget for the Marketing Budget and the theater's take. Theaters make VERY LITTLE off of the movies. It's why your popcorn costs so much. (Not that you'd know. You pirate all of your movies and if you were able to pirate popcorn you'd be doing that too). It's also why everyone else has to watch 15 movie trailers for movies that you will pirate in the future before the movie starts.

The cost for Maverick was roughly $340 Million. It pulled in just $13 Million shy of $1.5 Billion. After that, you subtract $340 Million from $1.5 Billion.

You do know how to subtract, don't you Second?



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Theaters make VERY LITTLE off of the movies.

Subtract $750 million from $1.5 billion because the theater keeps half of the ticket revenue. In some countries, the theater keeps much more than half. How can poor foreigners do that to rich Hollywood? The poor theater owner in China lies to Hollywood about how many tickets were sold. That's how.

How your ticket price is divided
https://www.rogerebert.com/roger-ebert/how-your-ticket-price-is-divide
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To a certain extent, bad marketing on a good movie means that the theaters will bump the movie, and it can get squeezed out of the marketplace. But exhibitors make a much higher percentage of box office the longer a movie runs. If I remember correctly, the movie theater gives the studio 50% of the opening weekend's take, but eventually the percentage works its way down to as low as 10%. That gives theater owners a huge incentive to support a sleeper. Serenity was out there for at least a month; certainly long enough for word of mouth to reverse any failure to get the cast on Leno, or any weaknesses in the trailer, or what have you.
https://complicationsensue.blogspot.com/2006/07/second-guessing-contin
ued.html


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If I remember correctly



He doesn't remember correctly.

That's good news for Avatar 2, because with how much Avatar 2 cost to make and market, it's going to need a hell of a lot more than 50% to break even or to come close to making what Maverick made after costs.

It's even better news for all of Disney's major flops in 2022 as well.

If Roger remembers correctly, Disney's in a lot worse shape than it would want you to believe.

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If I remember correctly



He doesn't remember correctly.

That's good news for Avatar 2, because with how much Avatar 2 cost to make and market, it's going to need a hell of a lot more than 50% to break even or to come close to making what Maverick made after costs.

It's even better news for all of Disney's major flops in 2022 as well.

If Roger remembers correctly, Disney's in a lot worse shape than it would want you to believe.

You a fooling yourself that you understand business. But every Trumptard I know struggles to stay in the middle class, especially the ones that own small businesses because they don't understand pricing, revenue, costs, etc. 6ix, this is why you have to live on $4,500 and can't afford to heat your house in winter or cool it in summer.

6ix wrote: "How do I know that? I can manage to live quite comfortably on around only $4,500 per year, and that's including property taxes and car insurance." (6ix, stop lying to yourself about what comfortable means.)
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Tuesday, January 10, 2023 9:09 AM

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I'm not the one going around stealing everything, including opinions, Pirate.

Keep deflecting from the fact that rodded your asshole out like a backed up sewer pipe in this thread.



As for living comfortably...

I could turn the heat up if I wanted to. But I intend to pay them less than I did last winter on principle. Principle is something that you wouldn't understand because you've never had any. And it just so happens that by standing by my principles on this issue that I'm lowering my carbon footprint as a bonus.

Summertime cooling is easy. That's cheap. Admittedly, I probably go a bit overboard on the cooling since I've had people come in my house during the summer and tell me that it was too cold.




Oh... and I haven't had to take one order from an asshole boss in over 2.5 years and as long as Biden*flation doesn't absolutely eviscerate the value of the USD, I probably won't ever have to again.

Have fun at work today, honey.





ETA: From July 10th, 2020 - "How do I know that? I can manage to live quite comfortably on around only $4,500 per year, and that's including property taxes and car insurance."

(Man... You really are in love with me, aren't you? )

Boy. Those were the days, huh? Back when Trump was President and Biden*flation hadn't kicked in.

It was about $7,200 this year. But I did have about $600 in car repairs, and I bought myself quite a few new toys like power tools and electronics that I got great deals on and I usually don't splurge on too. So it wasn't all Biden*'s fault that my cost of living was higher this year.


It was a real bummer, having to pay that $600 in car repairs, but I didn't have to pay for gas for the 10 weeks this year in total I didn't have a car. Plus, the average monthly payment for a new car is $700 and a used car is $525 (not to mention full coverage you pay for a car the bank owns) in BidenWorld, so I think I'm still safely ahead of everyone else.



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Tuesday, January 10, 2023 1:22 PM

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Movie Comparison:

Avatar The Way of Water (2022)
vs.
Avatar (2009)
vs.
Top Gun: Maverick (2022)
vs.
Avengers: Endgame (2019)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Avatar-
The-Way-of-Water-(2022)/Avatar/Top-Gun-Maverick-(2020)/Avengers-Endgame-(2019)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


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Wednesday, January 11, 2023 6:08 AM

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A NASA mission has spotted an Earth-size exoplanet orbiting a small star about 100 light-years away.

The planet, named TOI 700 e, is likely rocky and 95% the size of our world. The celestial body is the fourth planet to be detected orbiting the small, cool M dwarf star TOI 700. All of the exoplanets were found by NASA’s Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite, or TESS mission.

Another planet in the system, discovered in 2020 and named TOI 700 d, is also the size of Earth. Both of these exoplanets exist in their star’s habitable zone, or just the right distance from the star that liquid water might potentially exist on their surfaces. The potential for liquid water suggests that the planets themselves could be, or might once have been, habitable for life.

The discovery of the fourth planet was announced Tuesday at the 241st meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Seattle, and a study about the exoplanet has been accepted for publication by The Astrophysical Journal Letters.

“This is one of only a few systems with multiple, small, habitable-zone planets that we know of,” said lead study author Emily Gilbert, a postdoctoral fellow at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, in a statement.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/10/world/nasa-tess-earth-size-exoplanet-sc
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Friday, January 13, 2023 9:23 PM

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Avatar 2 has its first sub-$3 Million day on it's 28th day in the theaters domestically.

It took Top Gun: Maverick 42 days to achieve that feat.


Is it going to beat Maverick in the US? It's got a $40 Million head start going into its 5th weekend over Maverick. Let's see what happens this weekend.

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Saturday, January 21, 2023 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Avatar 2 has its first sub-$3 Million day on it's 28th day in the theaters domestically.

It took Top Gun: Maverick 42 days to achieve that feat.


Is it going to beat Maverick in the US? It's got a $40 Million head start going into its 5th weekend over Maverick. Let's see what happens this weekend.

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Avatar 2 still has a $40 Million head start going into its 6th weekend, after having a strong 5th weekend and the benefit from an excellent $7 Million showing on MLK Monday.

But that's where things change...

Day 33, (Cheap ticket Tuesday) - $2,769,211 for Avatar 2; $4,718,270 for Maverick
Day 34, Wednesday - $1,865,293 for Avatar 2; $4,305,954 for Maverick
Day 35, Thursday - $1,959,746 for Avatar 2; $4,006,207 for Maverick
Day 36, Friday - $4,654,000 for Avatar 2; $7,186,162 for Maverick

That's $11,248,250 for Avatar 2 through days 33 to 36.
That's $20,216,593 for Maverick through days 33 to 36.

That's also a deficit of $8,968,343 for Avatar 2 in the last 4 days including Friday of weekend 6, and a deficit of $2,622,162 for Friday of weekend 6 alone.

The-Numbers shaved its predictions for Avatar 2 domestically from $770 Million to $765 Million domestically, but I don't think it will even be close to that in the end.

Avatar 2's first sub $2 Million day was day 34 with $1,865,293. Maverick's first sub $2 Million day was day 49 with $1,962,441.

Avatar 2's first sub $5 Million weekend day was day 36 with $4,654,000. Maverick's first sub $5 Million weekend day was day 43 with $4,506,225.



Maybe The-Numbers knows something that I don't, but that math doesn't add up. Unless Avatar 2 somehow has beyond-spectacular Saturdays and Sundays going forward, it's set to start losing its $40 Million lead starting today, January 21st, 2023... possibly bigly.

Even if it were to maintain that $40 Million lead somehow until it's out of theaters, it would still only end up with $748 Million by the end of its run domestically.

Unless there's something I'm unaware of here, I don't think that Avatar 2 will beat Maverick domestically with its current trajectory.


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‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ crosses $2 billion mark in worldwide box office

Cameron is therefore the only director who can boast that three of his films are among the six to have made over $2 billion.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/22/entertainment/avatar-way-of-water-2-bil
lion/index.html


Movie Comparison: Avatar: The Way of Water (2022) vs. Top Gun: Maverick (2022)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Avatar-The-Way-o
f-Water-(2022)/Top-Gun-Maverick-(2020)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


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Monday, January 23, 2023 12:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The-Numbers shaved its predictions for Avatar 2 domestically from $770 Million to $765 Million domestically, but I don't think it will even be close to that in the end.

...

Maybe The-Numbers knows something that I don't, but that math doesn't add up. Unless Avatar 2 somehow has beyond-spectacular Saturdays and Sundays going forward, it's set to start losing its $40 Million lead starting today, January 21st, 2023... possibly bigly.

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Even if it were to maintain that $40 Million lead somehow until it's out of theaters, it would still only end up with $748 Million by the end of its run domestically.


Unless there's something I'm unaware of here, I don't think that Avatar 2 will beat Maverick domestically with its current trajectory.





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While it’s topping the chart again, The Way of Water is continuing to lose steam in domestic markets. It’ll miss our model’s prediction by 28%, and the predicted final total for the domestic market declines from $765 million going into the weekend to $748 million today.


Well, well... $748 Million, huh?

The-Number's second lowered Domestic Projection is EXACTLY what I said Avatar 2 would make in the end if it managed to maintain its $40 Million dollar lead it had after Thursday night.


However...

You'd better go lower.

Day 36, Friday - $4,654,000 for Avatar 2; 7,186,162 for Maverick
Day 37, Saturday - $9,322,000 for Avatar 2; $9,767,396 for Maverick
Day 38, Sunday - $5,709,000 for Avatar 2; $8,933,634 for Maverick

That's $19,685,000 for Avatar 2 and $25,887,192 for Maverick on the same Friday/Saturday/Sunday.

Avatar 2's lead over Maverick just lost $6,202,192 on its 6th weekend.

The lead is now down to only $33,598,794 after day 38.

And it won't be another 11 days until Maverick saw a sub $2 Million week day, while Avatar's Wednesday and Thursday nights last week were both sub $2 Million already.

Maverick pulled in $17,543,554 on the next Monday through Thursday.

My prediction for Avatar on the same Monday through Thursday will be $8.5 Million (and I will call this a GENEROUS prediction, because I REALLY want to call it $6.5 Million, but I don't want egg on my face and it's hard to gauge because of MLK last Monday), and if I'm right, that's another $9 Million deficit going into the 7th weekend, leaving Avatar 2 with only a $24.6 Million lead on Maverick before a 7th weekend where Maverick was just a few million shy of what Avatar 2 made in its 6th weekend.

Maverick had a LOT of longevity at this point in the run. Will Avatar 2?

Maverick may lose to Avatar 2 by just a hair in the end, given the ridiculously high price of admission, but if I were The-Numbers I'd dial that final number back to no more than $725 Million at this point. $748 is WAY too rich. And depending on how next week goes, it could be that I'm already calling Maverick the winner of the 2022 Domestic box office by the middle of next week.

I'd love to see actual ticket sales numbers. At this point there's no doubt that many more tickets had been bought for Maverick than there were for Avatar 2, but the price of admission is so different between the two.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2023 9:39 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Day 36, Friday - $4,654,000 for Avatar 2; 7,186,162 for Maverick
Day 37, Saturday - $9,322,000 for Avatar 2; $9,767,396 for Maverick
Day 38, Sunday - $5,709,000 for Avatar 2; $8,933,634 for Maverick

That's $19,685,000 for Avatar 2 and $25,887,192 for Maverick on the same Friday/Saturday/Sunday.

Avatar 2's lead over Maverick just lost $6,202,192 on its 6th weekend.

The lead is now down to only $33,598,794 after day 38.



Projections for the weekend were slightly lower than the actual numbers.

Actual Numbers:
Day 36, Friday - $4,671,161 for Avatar 2; 7,186,162 for Maverick
Day 37, Saturday - $9,454,007 for Avatar 2; $9,767,396 for Maverick
Day 38, Sunday - $6,007,938 for Avatar 2; $8,933,634 for Maverick

That's $20,133,106 for Avatar 2 and $25,887,192 for Maverick on the same Friday/Saturday/Sunday.

Avatar 2's lead over Maverick just lost $5,754,086 on its 6th weekend.

The lead is now down to only $34,046,900 after day 38.


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And it won't be another 11 days until Maverick saw a sub $2 Million week day, while Avatar's Wednesday and Thursday nights last week were both sub $2 Million already.


And Avatar 2's 39th day (Monday) was $1,580,745, vs Maverick's $6,371,672, shrinking the lead another $4,790,927 further down to $29,255,973. (Unlike last Monday's MLK boon to Avatar 2, Maverick benefited from 4th of July on day 39).

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Maverick pulled in $17,543,554 on the next Monday through Thursday.

My prediction for Avatar on the same Monday through Thursday will be $8.5 Million (and I will call this a GENEROUS prediction, because I REALLY want to call it $6.5 Million, but I don't want egg on my face and it's hard to gauge because of MLK last Monday), and if I'm right, that's another $9 Million deficit going into the 7th weekend, leaving Avatar 2 with only a $24.6 Million lead on Maverick before a 7th weekend where Maverick was just a few million shy of what Avatar 2 made in its 6th weekend.

Maverick had a LOT of longevity at this point in the run. Will Avatar 2?




Monday's $1,580,745 for Avatar 2 was $4.8 Million less than Maverick got on day 39 (Monday; Week 6), $450k less than Maverick got on day 46 (Monday; Week 7), ($300k less than Maverick got on day 53 (Monday; Week 8), and just $77k more than Maverick got on day 60 (Monday; Week 9).

Without counting cheap seat Tuesday, we're looking at Avatar 2 pulling in only around $4.8 Million max for Monday, Wednesday and Thursday. It will get more today, but how much is the question. My guess is that it will land closer to the $6.5 Million prediction I wanted to make than the $8.5 Million prediction I ultimately made for the week.

In any event, whatever it pulls in through Thursday will wipe out the $448,106 it pulled in above the studio projections for the weekend and it will lose slightly more going into weekend 7 than I estimated in the last post.

I'm now going to say that Avatar 2's lead over Maverick after Thursday (Day 42) will be below $24 Million.



Now... If Avatar can manage to keep at these prematurely low weekly levels for a LONG time, it could possibly manage to hold its ground on Maverick. Almost any other flick wouldn't, but because of the spectacle and the high ticket prices on this one, it may manage to fend off Maverick since the following Thursday shows Maverick's first sub-$2 Million day, and most week days afterward for Maverick were sub-$2 Million up until Day 76 where it started dipping sub-$1 Million.

Also, it's a coin-flip whether or not Avatar 2 ends up with a better Weekend 7 than Maverick had. My guess for Avatar 2's 7th weekend is $13.5 Million which would leave it about $1.5 shy of winning the weekend, but no new releases that anybody cares about are set to come out this weekend.


However, for Weekend 8 you've got "Knock at the Cabin" releasing that has a lot of buzz around it, with "Magic Mike's Last Dance" the following weekend and a new Ant Man movie the weekend after that.



So if Avatar 2 breaks even on average every day until it's out of theaters and matches the 203 straight days that Maverick 2 had in theaters, it will make $742 Domestically. $6 Million shy of The-Number's second revision, but $24 Million more than Maverick got.

That's a big if, but it is a possibility.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:53 PM

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The evidence in a graph:



Like I said a while back, Avatar 2 is going to need to pull in some big weekends or hang on to just under sub-$2 Million weekdays for weeks now to keep its lead over Maverick until the end.

Yesterday's loss for Avatar 2 wasn't a good example because, as stated before, that Monday was 4th of July for Maverick. But today's projection just came in at $2 Million for Avatar 2, and Maverick pulled in way more than double that figure on Day 40 at $4,461,739 for cheap ticket Tuesday.

They have been projecting low for Avatar 2, so that might end up being as much as $2.2 Million when we get the figure tomorrow. We could probably see as high as $7.5 Million for Avatar from Monday through Thursday, but that would still bring Avatar 2's lead down to $24 Million or just below unless it's got a bigger than expected Wednesday and Thursday.

But you can see from the trajectory of the curve that Avatar 2 has lost its steam and would flatline much earlier than Maverick did if that behavior persists.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2023 7:27 PM

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Yesterday's loss for Avatar 2 wasn't a good example because, as stated before, that Monday was 4th of July for Maverick. But today's projection just came in at $2 Million for Avatar 2, and Maverick pulled in way more than double that figure on Day 40 at $4,461,739 for cheap ticket Tuesday.

They have been projecting low for Avatar 2, so that might end up being as much as $2.2 Million when we get the figure tomorrow. We could probably see as high as $7.5 Million for Avatar from Monday through Thursday, but that would still bring Avatar 2's lead down to $24 Million or just below unless it's got a bigger than expected Wednesday and Thursday.



Ooooph...

Projection was extremely close for cheap seat Tuesday. $2,008,398 exact... Not the possible $2.2 Million I thought it might be.

More often than not, movies typically have a weaker Wednesday and Thursday than the do a Monday, and that includes the history of A2. Very good chance that my $6.5 Million prediction I was too reluctant to call will be the reality for the week instead of the $8.5 Million I ultimately called.

We're looking at a good possibility of Avatar 2 only holding a $22.5 Million lead on Maverick going into the 7th weekend now, and the lead it held over Maverick being divided by half in a 2 week time period.



Another interesting thing to note is that Maverick didn't earn less than $1,000 per theater until Day 41 (or what would be TODAY for Avatar 2). Avatar 2, on the other hand, has already had 8 days where it made less than $1k per theater, and 3 of those days it made less than $500 per theater. This is not including today, which would make that 9 days.

I believe the theater chains will recognize this fact and I expect the announcement Thursday the theater count will drop a considerable amount for the 7th weekend. Maybe that prediction is a week early with no new blockbusters coming out this weekend, but if they prolong that choice another week I think it's going to make that daily per-theater number suffer and look pretty bad.

My guess is that they'll drop it to around 3,600 theaters from 3,790 this weekend, and by next weekend it won't be playing in more than 3,200 theaters.

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Thursday, January 26, 2023 6:44 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Projection was extremely close for cheap seat Tuesday. $2,008,398 exact... Not the possible $2.2 Million I thought it might be.

More often than not, movies typically have a weaker Wednesday and Thursday than the do a Monday, and that includes the history of A2. Very good chance that my $6.5 Million prediction I was too reluctant to call will be the reality for the week instead of the $8.5 Million I ultimately called.



Avatar 2 only made $1,436,130 on Wednesday domestically. That's below even my low prediction.

Monday: $1,580,745
Tuesday: $2,008,398
Wednesday: $1,436,130

That's only $5,025,273 so far for the week. One more day to go. It's a coin flip that it didn't even meet my low $6.5 Million prediction. I should have gone with my gut.

Avatar 2 only pulled in $379 per theater on average yesterday (Day 41). It took Maverick 76 days to get that low.

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We're looking at a good possibility of Avatar 2 only holding a $22.5 Million lead on Maverick going into the 7th weekend now, and the lead it held over Maverick being divided by half in a 2 week time period


Avatar 2's current lead after Day 41 is down to $24,431,842.

My math must have been a little fuzzy there. Even with the lower numbers than I expected, A2's lead won't be under $22.5 Million after tonight. But there's almost zero chance that it will be more than $23 Million going into the weekend.


The new theater counts for the weekend aren't out yet, but should be up within the next few hours. Let's see if my drop to 3,600 theaters was high or low.

I'm also anticipating another drop in the The-Numbers' prediction for Avatar 2's domestic take when the weekend predictions come out tomorrow.

Is tomorrow the day they predict that Avatar 2 will make less than Maverick did domestically, or will we have to wait another week for that prediction?

Maybe they play it safe for now and drop it to the $725 Million that I suggested they drop it to earlier this week.


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Thursday, January 26, 2023 9:51 PM

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Still no word on theater counts, which is odd this late on a Thursday night. Maybe they took the day off?


I did just look at local ticket prices and there is a sizable difference between Avatar 2 and other movies around me. If you want to see the late showing of Puss n Boots or M3GAN, it will cost you $15.33 with tax. If you want to see Avatar 2's last showing it will cost you $19.81. These are adult prices. It would be $11.97 and $16.45 for children.

I wonder what the average would be across the nation.

I found this reddit and it seems to be all over the map.

https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/zhcppe/taking_a_look_at_av
atar_2_ticket_prices
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But then again, I'm sure regular movies are too. I can go see a new movie down by my brother's for $5.00 even with the tax included.


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