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Civil War. Probably not the best movie to release in current year, but it does look pretty entertaining...

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Monday, March 25, 2024 2:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK






I'll say right off the bat I'm not a fan that Nick Offerman is the lead role in this. I like him as an actor, but listening to him talk for two minutes as himself is nauseating.


My hope with this movie is that it's another "The Hunt". Something that pisses off both sides equally and nobody ends up seeing it.

The Hunt was one of the best movies made in the last 10 years that nobody has even watched. This one has potential from the little I've seen. Here's hoping that it's not some Leftist wet dream and it wasn't co-written by Offerman and he's just acting in it.

It appears to be written by the guy who wrote the excellent zombie flick 28 Days Later. It also appears that nobody who has seen the trailers can make any sense of it.

Sounds great to me. If it was something we were expecting either way that would mean given the subject matter it was more woke trash on one side or it might as well have been titled "Lady Ballers 2" from the other.






Oh... and I mentioned in the Ghostbusters thread that it doesn't have much competition besides the dumb Kong/Godzilla movie coming out soon. This comes out the same weekend the racist Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead remake. Depending on what it's actually about, I could have been very wrong when I said that about Frozen Empire's future competition.

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Sunday, April 7, 2024 3:46 PM

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it looks ok but yeah politically maybe not the best time

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Sunday, April 7, 2024 9:03 PM

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I'm just honestly hoping that there isn't too much real life current-year politics in it from either side. We don't need any more help riling up the crazies on either side right now.

I have a real feeling that this is a movie that you're going to love or you're going to hate and there will be no in between. But if the writer of 28 Days Later is still as good as he was back then, I might end up surprised.



What 28 Days Later Is Really About



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Thursday, April 11, 2024 1:48 PM

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Well it looks like the Twitter Lefties hate the movie.



Now we'll see if the Fox News viewers hate it too and we will have The Hunt: Part II on our hands.

Fingers crossed.



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Thursday, April 11, 2024 2:28 PM

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So far it scores 86% on Rotten Tomato's with 130 critics, access critic Grace Randolph has given it a poor review so that means it's likely not woke propaganda.

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Thursday, April 11, 2024 7:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
So far it scores 86% on Rotten Tomato's with 130 critics, access critic Grace Randolph has given it a poor review so that means it's likely not woke propaganda.



I don't think we want to give big brain Grace too much credit here.

The only thing I know her from is some clips of her "shows" reviewing movies and outtakes of what she said about them. These movies ran the gamut from The Black Little Mermaid to Indy's Emasculation.

Not exactly high brow fair...

I don't know her, and I've never watched any of her actual shows outside of some bad takes on pop culture, so I'm not going to call Grace Randolph a dummy...

All I'm saying is that Disney was beating everybody over the head so hard with the Woke Stick they were coughing up fairy dust. Even the biggest idiot saw what Disney was doing, even if it took them a long time to finally start admitting that they knew it.


Grace Rudolph having a problem with Civil War means absolutely nothing to me because I have no idea the size of her brain or her ability to decipher anything that's above a 8th grade reading level. She comes off to me with VERY STRONG "Headline Reader" vibes and that she didn't get her following by doing anything more than repeating ideas and catch phrases she picked up from the media she regularly ingests for all those feel good chemical reactions and then regurgitates to her followers.

I'm pretty sure that the sub-title for this movie might be "Critical Thinkers Only Please". At least it will if I get what I want and it's as good as I think it can be. Having the movie Civil War made in 2024 be about a California/Texas/Florida alliance Vs. the rest of the US, at least on the surface level, is giving me some real good movie vibes.


The Hunt got buried right at the start of the pandemic, sure, but it was universally misunderstood. From what I could tell it got as much hate from the Right that it did from the Left. I believe to this day JSF and Auraptor have never seen it because of things they heard about it. And the Twitter weirdos hated it and who knows what the critics thought about it? I can't even find a listing for it on Rotten Tomatoes.

It's one of my favorite movies.



I'm tentatively excited about what this movie actually is.

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Friday, April 12, 2024 12:16 PM

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According to Bruce, the Production Budget for Civil War was only $50 Million.

I'm actually surprised it's that high, given it's an A24 flick. But this does look a little more ambitious than their average movie and A24 did well in 2023.

$50 Million is a great number if this thing does good business. It only needs $125 Million worldwide to break even, which is a lower bar than most movies we've seen so far this year, and unlike Cabrini, this one actually has a chance of drawing a big enough audience to be profitable.

It made $2.9 Million on Preview Night. That's not super impressive. Kong/Godzilla just got $10 Million on preview night. Dune: Part 2 did $12 Million. Even Frozen Empire got $4.7 Million. To be fair to Civil War though, all three of them are existing IPs that have been around for decades upon decades and Civil War is a new thing. They all cost anywhere from twice to four times to make than Civil War did though. When put up against their budgets, Civil War's preview night did better than Ghostbusters, almost kept pace with Dune: Part 2 and didn't fare as well against Kong/Godzilla. This data alone doesn't really paint much of a picture for us yet, but at least it performed better than the one out of the three that will be financial failures at the opening.

As for the movie with the same $50 Million budget, the aforementioned Cabrini, The $4.7 Million that Civil War pulled in last night is far more impressive than the $500k that Cabrini pulled in on March 7th. 940% more, in fact. Not that it's really a valid comparison, but if Civil War were to maintain that Preview Night ratio in the Box Office, than after 35 days it would be at $179,845,443. That's nearly $55 Million profit, and that's just in the US alone... and Civil War appears to have a much larger international schedule ahead of it than Cabrini did.


We know that Grace Randolph didn't like the film, but it appears to get glowing reviews by Stephen King on Twitter. His endorsement of the film carries quite a bit more weight with me than anything Grace had to say about it, and if King likes the movie I'm probably less likely to enjoy it myself. But I'm still hoping that it's far enough removed from real life that it could be an enjoyable watch for the both of us, and as indicated in my opening post that's exactly the type of movie I've been hoping this would be since I first saw the trailer.

I mean, I love The Hunt, but I'm not going to say that I loved everything about it. I think it's quite possible that Steven King liked The Hunt too if he saw it. I'd be interested to see if he ever said anything about it. I'm not experienced with trying to use Google to find quotes from specific users on Twitter. I'm sure it's possible though.

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Saturday, April 13, 2024 10:22 PM

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I still don't know what to think about this movie and I'm loving it.

I don't want to know any spoilers so I'm not watching anything, but the titles for videos are all over the map so far.

TimcastIRL: A24 Civil War Movie SLAMMED As Anti Trump Film, Its CLEARLY Leftist

Alteroi: CIVIL WAR was SO BAD I wanted a REFUND

TheQuartering: Leftists MELTDOWN Over Civil War Movie (Tim Pool) For BETRAYING Them & Showing TRUTH Instead Of Lies

Disparu: Civil War Critics Reviews INSANE Rants Hate Not Being Pandered Too


I think I'm going to like this one.



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Sunday, April 14, 2024 8:30 AM

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“Civil War” has little to say about America — but a lot to say about war

By Zack Beauchamp | Apr 12, 2024, 7:15am EDT

https://www.vox.com/politics/24127680/civil-war-review-alex-garland-po
larization-violence


In one scene, a sniper opens fire on the reporters’ car, forcing them to take shelter beside two soldiers he’s also attacked. When the reporters ask the soldiers which side everyone is on, they scoff — explaining that he’s trying to kill them, and that’s all that matters.

That scene clarifies what the movie is really about: not how political order collapses into civil war, but what happens to a society after it does.

Civil War presents a narrative where war takes on a logic of its own. For some, the need to survive pushes them to act in ways they never would have contemplated otherwise. For others, the collapse in order creates opportunities to act on their very worst impulses — best dramatized in an unforgettable scene in which a bigoted soldier (Jesse Plemons) cruelly interrogates the main characters at gunpoint.

What a fake civil war tells us about real ones

Civil War’s grim vision reminded me, more than anything else, of an academic book: The Logic of Violence in Civil Wars by Oxford professor Stathis Kalyvas.

The book, a modern classic in the literature on civil conflict, argues that most people overestimate the degree to which patterns of violence in civil wars are driven by ideology or emotions run amok. Instead, Kalyvas argues, individual decisions are often made based on calculations of rational self-interest — starting with survival.

Kalyvas’s treatment of the relationship between violence and civilian behavior is particularly noteworthy.

As we know from American experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan, winning the support of the local civilian population is critically important in determining who wins a civil war. Drawing on data from the 1940s Greek Civil War, Kalyvas argues that civilians make decisions about cooperation based primarily on perceptions of who is in control of the territory in which they live. Basically, they’re most likely to cooperate if they think that side will have the power to keep them safe and advance their other interests.

Civilian cooperation then shapes how combatants use force, as informers tell them where their enemies are hiding or who in the civilian population supports the opposing side. How combatants act on this information in turn shapes civilians’ views, affecting their future decisions to cooperate or not. Violence is, in Kalyvas’s language, a “joint process”: Who lives and who dies is determined by the interplay of civilian and combatant actions, all rooted in perceptions of rational self-interest.

This is basically how the world in Civil War works. Characters make choices not about ideology or partisanship, but about how best to advance their interests in a country defined by who’s trying to kill them and who isn’t. I can’t recall a single scene where anyone makes an ideological statement about the nature of the American civil war and why they’re fighting it.

Such a film has little to say about contemporary American politics. But the imagery and places may help American audiences connect more easily to the subtler story it’s actually telling: about how people in real-life civil wars make life into hell for the people caught up in them.

It is less a film about political polarization, or even the headline-dominating wars in Gaza and Ukraine, than one about the long and bloody counterinsurgency wars that defined the war on terror era.

In that respect, Civil War should make Americans think less about our own contemporary problems and more about the suffering we so recently inflicted on others.

Download Stathis Kalyvas’s book for free from the mirrors at https://libgen.is//search.php?req=Stathis+Kalyvas

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, April 16, 2024 6:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Let's see...

Twitter Lefties in general don't like Civil War because it doesn't preach the narrative.

Grace Randlolph was not impressed.

JSF was not impressed.

Critical Drinker thought it pointless.

Nerdrotic was bored.

Steven King loved it.



Well... Nerdrotic is a dummy. Critical Drinker has started attacking movies that he doesn't need to attack since his grift is slowing down with the dearth of movies coming out of Hollywood at this point.

I'm hoping that Dave Cullen watches it and posts a review.



Because right now out of a list of people all over the map politically, almost everyone is bitching about the movie except for the guy who has spent his life writing 60 novels that all went on to be worldwide bestsellers. Sure, he's woke to the point I can sometimes gag reading stuff he has to say on Twitter, but he's the only one from the Left I've seen praise the movie.

I absolutely will be seeing this at some point. It's going to be interesting to see who I agree with.

In the meantime, I'm not actually going to watch any reviews by anyone. I'm just taking their opinions from how they title their review videos.

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Tuesday, April 16, 2024 10:56 PM

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Will it be a failure?

Yeah. I'm pretty sure it will be.


It's got a decent amount of countries showing it. But I'm not even going to pretend to know if anybody outside of America wants to watch it. Netherlands is the only country that has reported so far and it grossed $333,025 over the weekend. I'm assuming that's probably just your average US movie opening over there unless it was an event movie.

It only did $26 Million here in addition to the Netherlands money. That's way below the amount you want to see on opening weekend to hit that break even point. We're looking between $100 to $125 Million it needs to make.

Unless the international box office ended up being surprisingly high, good word of mouth is just about all that can save Civil War now.




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Wednesday, April 17, 2024 8:54 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Will it be a failure?

Yeah. I'm pretty sure it will be.

With Alex Garland as the writer, you could have predicted failure as soon as the movie was first announced. For some reason, perhaps for tax losses since he is a reliable loser, Hollywood keeps hiring Garland.

6ix, movies written by Alex Garland tend to not break even. Civil War is typical of this trend. Ex Machina was the exception. Here is a chart of six Garland movies.

Movie Comparison: Civil War (2024) vs. Men (2022) vs. Annihilation (2018) vs. Ex Machina (2015) vs. Dredd (2012) vs. Never Let Me Go (2010)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Civil-W
ar-(2024)/Men-(2022-United-Kingdom)/Annihilation/Ex-Machina/Dredd/Never-Let-Me-Go#tab=day_by_day_comparison


The maximum number of movies in a comparison is 6, you need to remove one by clicking Remove in the table below before you can add another.

If there was room for a seventh movie in the graph, Sunshine (2007) would have been included. Sunshine also lost money but what else is new? https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sunshine-(2007)#tab=summary

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, April 17, 2024 4:42 PM

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Alex Garland's first movie writing credit was 28 Days Later. It was filmed on an $8 Million budget and grossed over $80 Million worldwide.

Dredd was probably never going to do well, even if it was a decent movie. People are generally done with reboots and have been for quite some time.

That leaves Never Let Me Go as the only movie on your list of losers where he wasn't also the director. Maybe the problem is that they need to find a different director when putting his stories to life.



It only occurs to me now that I haven't ever seen any movie that Garland has directed. And I've only seen two from his catalogue of written work. Only now that we're having a conversation about him and I'm looking into what he's done did I know that he directed the reboot of Judge Dredd, which I had pretty much already forgotten was a movie that happened.

I've seen Ex Machina up on a streaming service before and always meant to get around to watching it but never did. Though I am familiar with the Ex Machina movie poster, I only now found out that Garland wrote and directed that movie. It's probably pretty good. I'm actually motivated to watch it now.

Never Let Me Go was the only movie of his other than 28 Days Later that I've seen, and it was a good watch. $15 Million to film it is a stupid number though, especially back in 2010 money. He's already proven that he can make a much more visually impressive movie on less than half that budget.

It appears that he rides a thin line between Indie and Mainstream, choosing to put a bunch of big names in his productions, which I'm sure is what is eating up a lot of these budgets.

I think he would do a lot better if he went back to making films with no-name actors. He put an unknown Cillian Murphy on the map, who probably wouldn't have ended up playing Oppenheimer last year if he hadn't done 28 Days Later all the way back in 2002.

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Wednesday, April 17, 2024 7:45 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I think he would do a lot better if he went back to making films with no-name actors. He put an unknown Cillian Murphy on the map, who probably wouldn't have ended up playing Oppenheimer last year if he hadn't done 28 Days Later all the way back in 2002.

Alex Garland wrote and directed the 8 episodes of Devs.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8134186/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cl_sm
I don't know if Devs was profitable, but it certainly was memorable.

The little inside joke for the nerd programmers working on Devs is that "DEVS" is the way the ancient Romans would have carved the word "Deus" on the marble frieze of their temples. The nerds were working on programming a quantum computer to see and hear the past, even what was unknown or forgotten. They were attempting to build the ultimate spying machine for the government. The closer they got to Deus working, the more scared they got, especially when theoretical physics equations allow the computer to also look into the future, not just the past. If the Devs project is successful, it is proof that the nerd programmers working on it are not in control of themselves. The nerds were very worried that they were meat puppets without free will. That idea causes dramatic confrontations between management and programmers as they approach their ultimate goal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devs_(TV_series)
https://www.metacritic.com/tv/devs/



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Wednesday, April 17, 2024 11:19 PM

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Interesting.

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Thursday, April 18, 2024 5:03 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Interesting.

I suspect that Alex Garland wrote “Devs” after he read the very short story “What's expected of us” by Ted Chiang | 06 July 2005
https://www.nature.com/articles/436150a

Garland saw the dramatic possibilities inherent in the story from Nature. The Deus device is probably Garland’s TV version of the Predictor device in Ted Chiang’s “What's expected of us”.

Here is the whole story from the pages of Nature:

This is a warning. Please read carefully.

By now you've probably seen a Predictor; millions of them have been sold by the time you're reading this. For those who haven't seen one, it's a small device, like a remote for opening your car door. Its only features are a button and a big green LED. The light flashes if you press the button. Specifically, the light flashes one second before you press the button.

Most people say that when they first try it, it feels like they're playing a strange game, one where the goal is to press the button after seeing the flash, and it's easy to play. But when you try to break the rules, you find that you can't. If you try to press the button without having seen a flash, the flash immediately appears, and no matter how fast you move, you never push the button until a second has elapsed. If you wait for the flash, intending to keep from pressing the button afterwards, the flash never appears. No matter what you do, the light always precedes the button press. There's no way to fool a Predictor.

The heart of each Predictor is a circuit with a negative time delay — it sends a signal back in time. The full implications of the technology will become apparent later, when negative delays of greater than a second are achieved, but that's not what this warning is about. The immediate problem is that Predictors demonstrate that there's no such thing as free will.

There have always been arguments showing that free will is an illusion, some based on hard physics, others based on pure logic. Most people agree these arguments are irrefutable, but no one ever really accepts the conclusion. The experience of having free will is too powerful for an argument to overrule. What it takes is a demonstration, and that's what a Predictor provides.

Typically, a person plays with a Predictor compulsively for several days, showing it to friends, trying various schemes to outwit the device. The person may appear to lose interest in it, but no one can forget what it means — over the following weeks, the implications of an immutable future sink in. Some people, realizing that their choices don't matter, refuse to make any choices at all. Like a legion of Bartleby the Scriveners, they no longer engage in spontaneous action. Eventually, a third of those who play with a Predictor must be hospitalized because they won't feed themselves. The end state is akinetic mutism, a kind of waking coma. They'll track motion with their eyes, and change position occasionally, but nothing more. The ability to move remains, but the motivation is gone.

Before people started playing with Predictors, akinetic mutism was very rare, a result of damage to the anterior cingulate region of the brain. Now it spreads like a cognitive plague. People used to speculate about a thought that destroys the thinker, some unspeakable lovecraftian horror, or a Gödel sentence that crashes the human logical system. It turns out that the disabling thought is one that we've all encountered: the idea that free will doesn't exist. It just wasn't harmful until you believed it.

Doctors try arguing with the patients while they still respond to conversation. We had all been living happy, active lives before, they reason, and we hadn't had free will then either. Why should anything change? “No action you took last month was any more freely chosen than one you take today,” a doctor might say. “You can still behave that way now.” The patients invariably respond, “But now I know.” And some of them never say anything again.

Some will argue that the fact the Predictor causes this change in behaviour means that we do have free will. An automaton cannot become discouraged, only a free-thinking entity can. The fact that some individuals descend into akinetic mutism whereas others do not just highlights the importance of making a choice.

Unfortunately, such reasoning is faulty: every form of behaviour is compatible with determinism. One dynamic system might fall into a basin of attraction and wind up at a fixed point, whereas another exhibits chaotic behaviour indefinitely, but both are completely deterministic.

I'm transmitting this warning to you from just over a year in your future: it's the first lengthy message received when circuits with negative delays in the megasecond range are used to build communication devices. Other messages will follow, addressing other issues. My message to you is this: pretend that you have free will. It's essential that you behave as if your decisions matter, even though you know that they don't. The reality isn't important: what's important is your belief, and believing the lie is the only way to avoid a waking coma. Civilization now depends on self-deception. Perhaps it always has.

And yet I know that, because free will is an illusion, it's all predetermined who will descend into akinetic mutism and who won't. There's nothing anyone can do about it — you can't choose the effect the Predictor has on you. Some of you will succumb and some of you won't, and my sending this warning won't alter those proportions. So why did I do it?

Because I had no choice.

Author notes
1. Ted Chiang is an occasional writer of science fiction. His work can be found in his collection Stories of Your Life and Others, published by Pan Macmillan.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Interesting.

I suspect that Alex Garland wrote “Devs” after he read the very short story “What's expected of us” by Ted Chiang | 06 July 2005
https://www.nature.com/articles/436150a

Garland saw the dramatic possibilities inherent in the story from Nature. The Deus device is probably Garland’s TV version of the Predictor device in Ted Chiang’s “What's expected of us”.

Here is the whole story from the pages of Nature:

This is a warning. Please read carefully.

By now you've probably seen a Predictor; millions of them have been sold by the time you're reading this. For those who haven't seen one, it's a small device, like a remote for opening your car door. Its only features are a button and a big green LED. The light flashes if you press the button. Specifically, the light flashes one second before you press the button.

Most people say that when they first try it, it feels like they're playing a strange game, one where the goal is to press the button after seeing the flash, and it's easy to play. But when you try to break the rules, you find that you can't. If you try to press the button without having seen a flash, the flash immediately appears, and no matter how fast you move, you never push the button until a second has elapsed. If you wait for the flash, intending to keep from pressing the button afterwards, the flash never appears. No matter what you do, the light always precedes the button press. There's no way to fool a Predictor.

The heart of each Predictor is a circuit with a negative time delay — it sends a signal back in time. The full implications of the technology will become apparent later, when negative delays of greater than a second are achieved, but that's not what this warning is about. The immediate problem is that Predictors demonstrate that there's no such thing as free will.

There have always been arguments showing that free will is an illusion, some based on hard physics, others based on pure logic. Most people agree these arguments are irrefutable, but no one ever really accepts the conclusion. The experience of having free will is too powerful for an argument to overrule. What it takes is a demonstration, and that's what a Predictor provides.

Typically, a person plays with a Predictor compulsively for several days, showing it to friends, trying various schemes to outwit the device. The person may appear to lose interest in it, but no one can forget what it means — over the following weeks, the implications of an immutable future sink in. Some people, realizing that their choices don't matter, refuse to make any choices at all. Like a legion of Bartleby the Scriveners, they no longer engage in spontaneous action. Eventually, a third of those who play with a Predictor must be hospitalized because they won't feed themselves. The end state is akinetic mutism, a kind of waking coma. They'll track motion with their eyes, and change position occasionally, but nothing more. The ability to move remains, but the motivation is gone.

Before people started playing with Predictors, akinetic mutism was very rare, a result of damage to the anterior cingulate region of the brain. Now it spreads like a cognitive plague. People used to speculate about a thought that destroys the thinker, some unspeakable lovecraftian horror, or a Gödel sentence that crashes the human logical system. It turns out that the disabling thought is one that we've all encountered: the idea that free will doesn't exist. It just wasn't harmful until you believed it.

Doctors try arguing with the patients while they still respond to conversation. We had all been living happy, active lives before, they reason, and we hadn't had free will then either. Why should anything change? “No action you took last month was any more freely chosen than one you take today,” a doctor might say. “You can still behave that way now.” The patients invariably respond, “But now I know.” And some of them never say anything again.

Some will argue that the fact the Predictor causes this change in behaviour means that we do have free will. An automaton cannot become discouraged, only a free-thinking entity can. The fact that some individuals descend into akinetic mutism whereas others do not just highlights the importance of making a choice.

Unfortunately, such reasoning is faulty: every form of behaviour is compatible with determinism. One dynamic system might fall into a basin of attraction and wind up at a fixed point, whereas another exhibits chaotic behaviour indefinitely, but both are completely deterministic.

I'm transmitting this warning to you from just over a year in your future: it's the first lengthy message received when circuits with negative delays in the megasecond range are used to build communication devices. Other messages will follow, addressing other issues. My message to you is this: pretend that you have free will. It's essential that you behave as if your decisions matter, even though you know that they don't. The reality isn't important: what's important is your belief, and believing the lie is the only way to avoid a waking coma. Civilization now depends on self-deception. Perhaps it always has.

And yet I know that, because free will is an illusion, it's all predetermined who will descend into akinetic mutism and who won't. There's nothing anyone can do about it — you can't choose the effect the Predictor has on you. Some of you will succumb and some of you won't, and my sending this warning won't alter those proportions. So why did I do it?

Because I had no choice.

Author notes
1. Ted Chiang is an occasional writer of science fiction. His work can be found in his collection Stories of Your Life and Others, published by Pan Macmillan.

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It is a very interesting device, that predictor.

My thought in that situation would be that we're human beings and we're all mostly dummies for one reason or another. While it might be entirely true that we can make a predictor that would be able to tell when we pressed the button because it always has a 1 second time advantage on us, this could be the type of low-level behavior that would be easily predictable because somebody making a choice so inconsequential isn't reason enough to justify the creation of an entire new universe where a different choice was made.

Think of it from the perspective that we're all programs in a simulation... or perhaps we're uploaded consciousness of people who were once alive, but we now find ourselves in a fabricated reality that is 100% believable.

All of this data would have to be on some sort of server setup. Maybe it's way in the future where they laugh about the old days in 2024 and how rough us cave men had it, but no matter how advanced they are they're going to have potential storage issues and the costs that would be involved to upgrade their storage and power it all the time. Now imagine that they're actually doing an experiment that creates a parallel universe every time an important decision was made.

In this case, there would be a near-infinite amount of redundant parallel universes created which would be caused by billions of people making mundane decisions like clicking the button on a predictor... micro-decisions that in no way would alter the future of anything important and were essentially dead-ends. Injecting code that could predict and eliminate 99% of the this superfluous parallel universe creation before it were to start and giving this code top priority would probably be the only way to make the entire project economically feasible in the first place.

This is just something that came right off the top of my head now and could be one in a near-infinite amount of ways to justify yourself for still believing in free will after a scientific device so convincing gets released to the public that it abjectly blackpills 1/3rd of the people who ever used it into hopeless living vegetables.

And it still could be that we truly do not possess any free will at all and everything is always predetermined. This would also be an extremely cheap simulation to run compared to the first example, because there would be ZERO parallel universes ever created since everyone involved in the experiment is just as incapable of making a choice on their own as everybody else in the universe.

But I'm pretty sure that time travel wouldn't be possible without a multiverse. There's nowhere in the past to go to if there's only one universe in the here and now. My number one argument that they're wrong about the Predictor and the conclusion they've drawn from its behavior is that the device wouldn't work in a singular universe where every action every living being ever took was predetermined. There would be no one-second prior version of our universe for it to travel back to in order to make the trick work.


So that's what's interesting to me...

Not so much the conclusion this one individual came to, one year out from their universe developing the first baby-step in commercial time travel devices for consumers.

What's interesting to me is finding out if the nature of the behavior of the clicker is exactly as this person believes it to be. Whether or not they can use it to prove that all actions either great or inconsequential in his universe are predetermined. That in his universe there really is no other choice but to submit to the idea that nothing that you or anybody else who has ever lived was your own idea and that every choice you've ever made was already chosen for you by someone or something else a very long time ago.



I don't believe in predetermination. It's not that I don't think there's any possible way that something or someone could be so much greater than us that they could actually create a universe and account for anything and everything that has and ever will happen.

It's just... why would they is all?

Talk about boring....

Not only putting forth effort to create all of this and having every split-second of every detailed part of it micro-managed to the level where everything goes exactly as planned for the entire life of the experiment, but could you imagine how long that planning stage would have taken? Have you got a million, billion years to write down all those notes? All of those scripts?

Every Comedy and Every Tragedy Ever Written?


Why would anyone do that to themselves? So little ROI.


Putting the catalysts necessary together to cause the Big Bang and just let 'er rip is so much more interesting and would provide much more valuable data, IMO.


Although... Every good experiment has a control group...




Wouldn't that be something to be part of the Control Group. The one universe completely mapped out and created from the ground up to be 100% predictable all of the time because every single event in the near-infinite amount of events were already planned out and will adhered to with unwavering certainty by everyone and everything inside of it?


Hey, buddy... Second... my good friend.

I'm sorry we say all of these shitty things to each other every single day, but it turns out we were programmed to do it and every lousy thing we've ever said to each other is just our empty little vessels going from point A to B to Zed and beyond...

I'm also sorry that my apology was also scripted, and that me writing this to you is just what I was designed to do right now.

And I think that I really am legitimately sorry. It turns out that our emotions are all 100% scripted too, likely down to the science of the chemicals in our brains, but if we're pre-programmed to feel certain ways at certain times all the time, does that make those emotions any less real than if we came up with them on our own?

And I'd wonder what your reply would be, but what what does it matter?

What does any of it matter?



*ehhhhh*...

I'm glad I'm on in that universe.

How 'bout you?

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And it still could be that we truly do not possess any free will at all and everything is always predetermined.

Have you heard of Superdeterminism? Physicists have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism

In the 1980s, John Stewart Bell discussed superdeterminism in a BBC interview:

There is a way to escape the inference of superluminal speeds and spooky action at a distance. But it involves absolute determinism in the universe, the complete absence of free will. Suppose the world is super-deterministic, with not just inanimate nature running on behind-the-scenes clockwork, but with our behavior, including our belief that we are free to choose to do one experiment rather than another, absolutely predetermined, including the "decision" by the experimenter to carry out one set of measurements rather than another, the difficulty disappears. There is no need for a faster than light signal to tell particle A what measurement has been carried out on particle B, because the universe, including particle A, already "knows" what that measurement, and its outcome, will be.

Physicists Sabine Hossenfelder and Tim Palmer have argued that superdeterminism "is a promising approach not only to solve the measurement problem, but also to understand the apparent non-locality of quantum physics".

Howard M. Wiseman and Eric Cavalcanti argue that any hypothetical superdeterministic theory "would be about as plausible, and appealing, as belief in ubiquitous alien mind-control".

Philosophers have been puzzled by the technical difficulties of proving people have Free Will and are not meat puppets. Read all about it at
https://iep.utm.edu/freewill/ Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Have you heard of Superdeterminism? Physicists have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism



It's no more or less crazy than anything I just typed up.

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Originally posted by second:
Have you heard of Superdeterminism? Physicists have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism



It's no more or less crazy than anything I just typed up.

Circling back to where I started: With Alex Garland as the writer, you could have predicted failure as soon as the movie was first announced. I call it Superdeterminism. The conspiracy behind the physical laws of the Universe wishes that Alex Garland's movies lose money, regardless of how unique and entertaining Garland is. It is in the numbers. Production Budget: $50,000,000 (worldwide box office is 0.7 times production budget)

An Alex Garland Movie Comparison: Civil War (2024) vs. Men (2022) vs. Annihilation (2018) vs. Ex Machina (2015) vs. Dredd (2012) vs. Never Let Me Go (2010)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Civil-W
ar-(2024)/Men-(2022-United-Kingdom)/Annihilation/Ex-Machina/Dredd/Never-Let-Me-Go#tab=day_by_day_comparison


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Friday, April 19, 2024 5:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Have you heard of Superdeterminism? Physicists have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism



It's no more or less crazy than anything I just typed up.

Circling back to where I started: With Alex Garland as the writer, you could have predicted failure as soon as the movie was first announced. I call it Superdeterminism. The conspiracy behind the physical laws of the Universe wishes that Alex Garland's movies lose money, regardless of how unique and entertaining Garland is. It is in the numbers. Production Budget: $50,000,000 (worldwide box office is 0.7 times production budget)

An Alex Garland Movie Comparison: Civil War (2024) vs. Men (2022) vs. Annihilation (2018) vs. Ex Machina (2015) vs. Dredd (2012) vs. Never Let Me Go (2010)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Civil-W
ar-(2024)/Men-(2022-United-Kingdom)/Annihilation/Ex-Machina/Dredd/Never-Let-Me-Go#tab=day_by_day_comparison


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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I could have predicted had I known. As I said before, the only movie I was aware he had anything to do with was 28 Days Later and that made more than 10 times its budget. I wasn't even aware that I'd seen another of his movies until 2 days ago.

As soon as I realized the budget was $50 Million and it only grossed about $27 Million on opening weekend I knew it was going to be a failure.

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I would bet Alex Garland gets most of his screenplay themes from reading Daniel C. Dennett, which would explain why Garland is both entertaining and a money-loser for Hollywood. Who is Dennett? For one thing, he's died today:
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But Mr. Dennett, who never shirked controversy, often crossed swords with other famed scholars and thinkers.

An outspoken atheist, he at times seemed to denigrate religion. “There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,” he said in a 2013 interview with The New York Times.

According to Mr. Dennett, the human mind is no more than a brain operating as a series of algorithmic functions, akin to a computer. To believe otherwise is “profoundly naïve and anti-scientific,” he told The Times.

For Mr. Dennett, random chance played a greater role in decision-making than did motives, passions, reasoning, character or values. Free will is a fantasy, but a necessary one to gain people’s acceptance of rules that govern society, he said.

That is from "Daniel C. Dennett, Widely Read and Fiercely Debated Philosopher, Dies at 82"

Espousing his ideas in best sellers (the kind of books Alex Garland reads), he insisted that religion was an illusion, free will was a fantasy and evolution could only be explained by natural selection.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/books/daniel-dennett-dead.html?unlo
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If you looked at the free books Daniel Dennett wrote, you are likely to see resources Alex Garland used to give weight to his screenplays.
https://libgen.is//search.php?req=Daniel+C.+Dennett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett

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Friday, April 19, 2024 10:44 PM

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It's an interesting point of view.

I genuinely feel happy for people who think they've got it all figured out.

He knew where he wasn't going when he died.

Maybe he was wrong and he's still kicking around somewhere. It's a fate I'd wish on anyone who dies before we figure out how to upload everyone's consciousness somewhere before they die.

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‘Civil War’ has a stark warning for Washington

by Giancarlo Sopo | 04/19/24 3:30 PM ET

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4605569-civil-war-has-a-stark-war
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In the 2014 film “Ex Machina,” director Alex Garland offered a chilling forecast of a future dominated by unchecked artificial intelligence. The groundbreaking sci-fi thriller prompted us to consider what happens when such technology is developed by an unscrupulous narcissist who sidesteps profound ethical quandaries. The film was both prescient and clear in its warnings: Be wary of concentrated power and take precautions to prevent such a catastrophe.

A decade later, “Civil War,” Garland’s latest dystopian offering, threads a similar cautionary tale, but with key differences. This time, the calamity is unfolding and its catalysts are largely unexplored.

The film’s vagueness has elicited mixed — yet strikingly similar — reactions across the political spectrum. On the left, critics accuse the film of “utter cowardice” and betraying audiences for not denouncing MAGA. Meanwhile, the right blasts the film for overlooking the “socialist, anarchist” roots of our divisions and its treatment of the media. Alas, both sides are essentially making the same argument by demanding that Hollywood vindicate their respective worldviews.

This isn’t just horseshoe theory. (Philosopher Jean-Pierre Faye invented Horseshoe Theory after observation of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union's joint invasion of Poland which started World War II.) Social science teaches us this need for validation, known as confirmation bias, is endemic to the human condition. In this vein, central to “Civil War” is its auteur’s belief that Republicans and Democrats are more alike than partisans care to admit. The film is more concerned with probing the underlying psychology, incentives and structures that could precipitate a national cataclysm than it is with scapegoating individual politicians or the ideologies they champion as intellectual scaffolding. This approach may not flatter our partisan biases, but it offers a more truthful — and cinematically superior — alternative to more simplistic counterparts.

Like William Wyler’s portrayal of post–World War II America and Sergio Leone’s reinvention of the Western, “Civil War” follows the tradition of incisive commentaries on American life filtered through a foreign lens. The British Garland, himself the son of a newsman, seems especially interested in political journalism’s role in our decay. The film is hardly coy about this — it begins and ends at the nexus of media and politics in Washington. If Garland were to expose the Beltway any more explicitly, he would literally have to hold up a mirror to it in a cameo.

These bookends invite us to scrutinize the role of the “Grift Industrial Complex” — the sordid ecosystem of fame-first politicians and their networks of online influencers and clickbait media platforms — in eroding our politics and culture. With the help of social media companies, those at the top profit handsomely off the paranoia, resentment and pervasive sense of victimhood they cultivate among their audiences.

Their exploitation is particularly troubling, not only because of the psychological harm it inflicts, but because a victimhood mentality inherently requires an aggressor. Viewing the other half of the country as enemies rather than as neighbors with differing opinions sets the stage for animosity.

One of the film’s most critical insights is that hatred leads to asking others “what kind of Americans” they are. In fairness, the nation may already be lost if significant numbers despise their countrymen on account of a few grifters. But you don’t have to believe we’re on the brink of an armed internal conflict to see the prudence in pumping the brakes.

In addition to muting, unfollowing and unsubscribing, a critical first step is recognizing that the Grift Industrial Complex thrives on the demise of institutions. This underscores the urgent need for people of good conscience within ostensibly nonpartisan organizations to reassert their independence, exercise restraint and resist indulging in divisive ideological projects.

In theory, our system is built to withstand self-interest and audience capture, but, as Madison famously argued in Federalist No. 10, a republican form of government is crucial for mitigating their effects. Much of our dysfunction — evident in real life and implied in “Civil War” — is rooted in the outsized influence of the federal government, especially the executive branch. Why else would the film’s fictional president go to such extreme lengths to secure a blatantly unconstitutional third term, if not for its expansive reach?

Politics should matter in a healthy society, but not that much. As the son of Cuban exiles, I’ve seen what happens when every facet of life becomes politicized, and it isn’t pretty. We should heed the film’s call for introspection and turn our attention inward — to our communities, houses of worship, families, friends and civic associations as better sources of meaning in life than the dopamine kicks we derive from D.C.’s made-for-Twitter controversies

For all the argument about “Civil War,” its most profound lesson — one that movie studios will certainly appreciate — is relatively simple: We should tune out the outrage hustlers, put down our phones and spend more time sharing experiences with fellow Americans, like enjoying movies, instead of fighting over politics. By doing so, we can begin to heal the wounds that Garland vividly portrays in his haunting depiction of our fractured nation.

Giancarlo Sopo is the founder of Visto Media and cultural writer. Follow him @GiancarloSopo.

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Saturday, April 20, 2024 11:23 PM

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Overall, that's an excellent article and honestly just what I wanted to hear about Civil War when I first saw the trailer.

You might remember in the OP I stated this:

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
My hope with this movie is that it's another "The Hunt". Something that pisses off both sides equally and nobody ends up seeing it.



So I love reading his take when he says:

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The film’s vagueness has elicited mixed — yet strikingly similar — reactions across the political spectrum. On the left, critics accuse the film of “utter cowardice” and betraying audiences for not denouncing MAGA. Meanwhile, the right blasts the film for overlooking the “socialist, anarchist” roots of our divisions and its treatment of the media. Alas, both sides are essentially making the same argument by demanding that Hollywood vindicate their respective worldviews.



This is exactly what happened to The Hunt, except it's on a larger scale since The Hunt got flushed right down the Covid toilet and literally no one saw it.

It's going to fail, and it's going to be misunderstood by most people who watch it, let alone everybody who just refuses to watch it because somebody online influenced them out of seeing it. It's a movie that doesn't hold your hand and trusts you that you can spend 90 minutes outside of the comfort of your box and think about something that doesn't exist merely to validate your own point of view.

And now that I read this article, I think I might have gotten exactly what I wanted. I think I have a really good movie to watch soon.


My apologies to Garland and the Studio for the flop though. You had to know that $50 Million was too much money to spend on that. Those contracts may have all been signed way back before everybody else caught up to reality that Hollywood was choosing to die by suicide and finally some people had to step in to intervene. Bummer for all of those involved who saw a much rosier picture of future 2024's economy and the overall health of Hollywood as a whole if that's how it went down.

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I don't watch as many films in cinema these days but I would be tempted to watch this movie

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I don't watch as many films in cinema these days but I would be tempted to watch this movie



I know I will be watching it. You'll probably get to it before I do though, I'd imagine. I'm curious to see what you think of it if you do.

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Friday, May 24, 2024 4:23 PM

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Positive reviews from TheWrap, Chicago Sun-Times but it is controversial some however love it and some really dislike it

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I'll let you know what I think when I see it. Not sure if I'm going to wait to watch it with my dad or not since we've already got a pretty big list of things we want to see and we haven't been working on that backlog since he's been really busy recently. Things should slow down soon and we can chip away at it though.

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