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The Aquaman 2 Failure Thread
Tuesday, November 28, 2023 11:15 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Tuesday, December 5, 2023 8:06 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: 62% below Black Adam in presales.
Wednesday, December 6, 2023 10:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: 62% below Black Adam in presales. Not a good sign but I think its too early to predict...however there seem to be too many big expensive movies fighting for that small piece of turf where you can make profit.
Quote:Isn't Musk dating her again, maybe he will spam ads on twitter aka 'X' and brainwash everyone into going?
Quote:There is a contest to hold top position with Ferrari, Beyonce, Silent Night, Wonka, 'Rebel Moon' could eat some profits but its also Vacation time, more kids going to the movies and I'm not sure if it will have staying power into January. 'The Beekeeper' probably ends its chance at big profits.
Wednesday, December 6, 2023 4:59 PM
WHOZIT
Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: I don't think poor little Amber should get all the blame if this is a bomb, I'm sure there are plenty of people who'd love to take a dump on Depp's bed sheets.
Quote:If it does tank it'll be because the fan base is fed up with a weak script, unfunny one liners and bad CGI. How many Super Hero flicks this year does this one make?
Thursday, December 7, 2023 2:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: I don't think poor little Amber should get all the blame if this is a bomb, I'm sure there are plenty of people who'd love to take a dump on Depp's bed sheets. Yeah. It won't be Heard's fault at all. I was just making the point that even though they did everything they could to minimize her screen time after the fact it's not going to make any difference. Quote:If it does tank it'll be because the fan base is fed up with a weak script, unfunny one liners and bad CGI. How many Super Hero flicks this year does this one make?
Thursday, December 7, 2023 6:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: How many Super Hero flicks this year does this one make?
Quote:SIX: Seven. 1 minor Disney flop. 1 major Disney flop. 1 by Disney that made a little bit of money but under-performed. Soon to be 4 Warner Bros flops.
Quote: whozit: Geez, once apon a time Lucasfilm, the MCU and the DCU use to print money, now they burn it.
Friday, December 8, 2023 2:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: How many Super Hero flicks this year does this one make? Quote:SIX: Seven. 1 minor Disney flop. 1 major Disney flop. 1 by Disney that made a little bit of money but under-performed. Soon to be 4 Warner Bros flops.
Friday, December 8, 2023 6:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: The only way Lucasfilm, the MCU (Both Disney Corp) and the DCU can come back from this years abortions is to create the 'next big thing', I think they've run out of stories AND talent. I don't think there's anybody that can create anything out of whole cloth at any of these studios, even if there's a good house cleaning at Disney Corp it'll take years to fix this mess. Maybe that's a good thing, time heals all wounds.
Friday, December 22, 2023 11:54 AM
Friday, December 22, 2023 12:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Now they're only predicting a $29-$40 Million opening for the 4-Day holiday weekend at BoxOfficePro. https://www.boxofficepro.com/4-day-christmas-weekend-forecast-aquaman-and-the-lost-kingdom-migration-and-the-color-purple-to-stand-out-for-holiday-frame/ Not good. They've got Wonka at $27 to $37 Million this weekend, so Aquaman 2 might not even take 1st place. It opened to $4.5 Million in Previews last night, which is better than Shazam II's $3.4 Million and Blue Beetle's $3.3 Million, but far less than The Flash's $9.7 Million preview. All 4 DC films this year were previewed in 3,400 theaters according to the-numbers.com. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
Friday, December 22, 2023 4:12 PM
Saturday, December 23, 2023 10:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Yeah. Really strange that we've gotten to the point where the movie reviewers regularly trash comic book movies. We've known they've been shit for a long time, but the reviewers just finally figured it out. I'm guessing that Disney and WB stopped paying them. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
Saturday, December 23, 2023 11:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Yeah. Really strange that we've gotten to the point where the movie reviewers regularly trash comic book movies. We've known they've been shit for a long time, but the reviewers just finally figured it out. I'm guessing that Disney and WB stopped paying them. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face. They don't pay them, they give them 'access', this is why they're called 'access critics'. They call them to give them the latest poop, invite them to all the openings and parties and make them feel important. Grace Randolph is the worse, she gave 'Wonder Woman 1984' and "The Marvels' great reviews and refused to watch 'The Sound of Freedom'. There are others like Rodger Freedman who if you kiss his ass he'll give your play, film or TV show good reviews on his website, but Randolph is the worse.
Sunday, December 24, 2023 2:15 PM
Tuesday, December 26, 2023 8:00 PM
Quote:There’s really no positive way to spin Aquaman 2’s debut. Not only is it less than half what Aquaman made on its opening weekend, it’s also less than half of Black Adam’s $67-million start in October last year, and less than Shazam! Fury of the Gods earned when it opened in March. At the time, Shazam! looked like an outlier, but it now looks like the harbinger of things to come. 2023 has been a dreadful year for super hero movies, which have collectively earned $1.44 billion at the domestic box office this year, compared to $2.05 billion last year. That $600-million decline is the reason we’ll see 2023 end up with less than $9 billion in total.
Saturday, January 27, 2024 10:12 AM
Saturday, January 27, 2024 2:08 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Saturday, January 27, 2024 2:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: (I haven't been tracking this one at all, so I have no idea how much it's still making internationally.)
Saturday, January 27, 2024 4:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom is available for free from the pirates: How does Hollywood get people to pay for what is free? It is mysterious. Somebody in Hollywood should make that story into a movie! Then give the movie away for free.
Quote:Whether it was good planning or happenstance on Warner Bros.'s part, the timing of the release was excellent. I'm amazed that 35 days into its release it's still in the top 10 at the 10th spot. It only took The Marvels 22 days to fall out of the top 10 (also in a weak box office period). So far, Aquaman 2 has grossed as much in the US as The Marvels grossed internationally (not a good thing for comic books, really, but just showing how much better than The Marvels this movie is doing). Shockingly, Aquaman 2 has put up $283 Million internationally. That is $155 more than Blue Beetle made worldwide. It's $151 Million more than Shazam II made worldwide. It's even $17 Million more than The Flash made worldwide. Aquaman 2 has made $61 Million more internationally than Black Adam did in 2022, and has now made $8 Million more worldwide than Black Adam did.
Quote:All of this by no means constitutes a win for Aquaman or the DC franchise. It needed $512 Million to break even, and with $114 Million left to get there it's just as dead as I said it would be after the budget was announced. (It had it's first sub-Million Friday last week) But if I were an exec at Warner Bros. I would be considering this a huge win. This could have gone much worse for them, but in the year that only 1 out of 7 major comic book movies turned a profit, taking 3rd place and losing under $100 Million isn't terrible, especially when they've had major successes that can offset that loss. And if international numbers are still doing well there is still the possibility it takes 2nd place. (I haven't been tracking this one at all, so I have no idea how much it's still making internationally.
Monday, January 29, 2024 11:30 AM
Thursday, February 8, 2024 9:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Aquaman 2 only fell -26% from last weekend in the US despite the pirates doing their pirate thing, once again proving that piracy has very little to do with box office receipts. Current worldwide gross is now $412,602,000, which is just shy of $100 Million from breaking even. It won't get there, but it's still making money for WB.
Quote:What it does have a chance of doing is grossing more than Disney made worldwide with both Wish and The Marvel's combined. It is currently only $19,987,073 away from that feat, and with The Marvel's out of the theaters and Wish only pulling in $122k vs. Aquaman's $2,720,000 on its 6th weekend in the US, that is all but a guaranty at this point.
Quote:It would be an impressive feat in a year of DC failures, if WB hadn't broke the bank with a $205 Million production budget on this one. But compared to Disney's combined $450 Million budgets for the two movies that Aquaman 2 is going to outgross, I'm still impressed. It's going to be a failure, but it's certainly made more money than I ever imagined it would. The Suits at WB have to be happy with the results even though they lost money after the way 2023 went.
Monday, February 12, 2024 2:01 AM
Quote:I think it's pretty safe to say that unless some of Bruce's phantom international accounting goes poorly for any of these three flicks that there's enough gas left in the tank for A2 and Wonka to bridge that $14 Million+ gap before they're out of theaters and the collective losses from WB's final 2023 trifecta won't result in even more money being used from their Barbie profits to cover any of these missteps. They'll likely even add money here to their 2023 win if the international accounting doesn't get fudged too hard in the negative.
Thursday, February 29, 2024 10:52 AM
Saturday, March 2, 2024 4:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Aquaman 2's worldwide gross is now $434,095,977.
Saturday, March 2, 2024 4:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: $433.3M global https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/31084-aquaman-and-the-lost-kingdom-3073m-overseas-4302m-worldwide/ Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Aquaman 2's worldwide gross is now $434,095,977. probably close to the final number,
Quote: there might be a Japan release due?
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