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The Taylor Swift and Beyonce Concert Things
Thursday, October 12, 2023 2:12 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Thursday, October 12, 2023 10:10 PM
Friday, October 13, 2023 12:59 PM
Quote:Eras Tour won’t be having Thursday previews because Swift wants the film launching on her lucky day of Friday the 13th, so the first shows are at 6 p.m. that night.
Friday, October 13, 2023 8:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Eras Tour made $2,800,000 in previews on Thursday night in 2,700 locations ($1,037 per theater). Since I have no idea how this one is going to play out, I don't know if I can read correctly into what that would mean. Firstly, I would assume that if sites like Deadline were going to put into print that there would be no previews, they must have based that off the fact that there were no pre-sale tickets for Thursday night, so those almost certainly had to be walk-up ticket sales. (And honestly, I'm not sure if they ever do pre-sales for any Thursday night previews... I don't know how that works for a regular movie).
Quote:This is the moment when I would usually hone our prediction with the benefit of Thursday’s preview numbers. I’m not able to do that this week because of the unusual nature of the previews. They were announced just a couple of days ago after most superfans had already bought tickets, and not all theaters played them. Our model would be looking at those $2.8-million in last-minute ticket sales as pointing towards a weekend around $30 million. We already know domestic pre-sales for this weekend exceed that figure. In other words, the preview number really tells us nothing about how the weekend will turn out.
Saturday, October 14, 2023 1:21 PM
Saturday, October 14, 2023 1:36 PM
Sunday, October 15, 2023 2:45 PM
Monday, October 16, 2023 9:38 AM
SECOND
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Monday, October 16, 2023 10:02 AM
Monday, October 16, 2023 3:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Normally, I'd say that it probably still did over $100 Million and that AMC was just lowballing the projection like the Studios always do with new movies and/or setting it up for more positive media coverage when/if the actual numbers come out above $100 Million tomorrow, but from what I've read AMC didn't put these projections out there and the projection was provided by a third party outfit Comscore. That removes the motive to purposefully give a lowball projection, but since I know nothing of Comscore before today I don't know how accurate they are in their projections and/or if the nature of this film makes it harder to predict for them than your standard movie.
Monday, October 16, 2023 4:45 PM
WHOZIT
Tuesday, October 17, 2023 1:44 PM
Friday, October 20, 2023 11:58 AM
Quote:Last weekend AMC Theatres Distribution's release of Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour concert film debuted with a strong $92.80 million. That easily represented the largest opening weekend gross ever for a concert film and the second largest October opening weekend of all-time (behind only 2019's Joker). High profile concert films typically experience very sharp second weekend declines and that is likely to be the case for Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour concert film as well. On top of the built-in front-loading, Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour concert film will also take a hit this weekend from losing its IMAX screens to Killers of the Flower Moon. With that said, Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour concert film will have some factors in its favor this weekend, including exceptional word of mouth (the concert film received a perfect A+ rating on CinemaScore), which could help lead to repeat business, and the fact that the film didn't play from Monday through Wednesday this past week, which should help provide some extra stabilization to this weekend's performance. Look for Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour concert film to decline a sharp 66.1 percent this weekend for a healthy second weekend take of $31.5 million.
Quote:Whether Flower Moon can top the chart this weekend is another question. We’ll have our official predictions tomorrow, but it’s definitely a tough task given that The Eras Tour is coming off a $92.8-million opening. The Taylor Swift concert film wasn’t playing in theaters on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday this week, which means there should be some pent up demand for its renewed run starting on Thursday. If that gives it a better-than-expected hold, it could well stay top.
Friday, October 20, 2023 8:13 PM
Quote: UPDATED, FRIDAY MIDDAY: AMC‘s Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour is currently looking to hold onto the No. 1 spot at the domestic box office with a second estimated Friday of $10.25 million, off 73% week over week, for what’s looking like a second weekend around $32 million at 3,855 theaters, -66%. That’s a very similar second-weekend decline to Disney’s 2008 concert film Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus: Best of Both Worlds Concert. The running total for Eras Tour by EOD Sunday would be $130.7M. Meanwhile, Apple Original Films and Paramount‘s 3-hour and 26-minute Martin Scorsese movie Killers of the Flower Moon is looking pretty good. Booked at 3,628 theaters, Friday is shaping up to be $9M ahead of a $22M three-day opening. Some rival distribs even have it higher.
Quote:Meanwhile, without giving any number predictions, I'm going to say that my guess is that Eras Tour 2nd weekend trounces Killers' first weekend. Even with a 66% drop, Taylor's thing still makes $31.5 Million over the weekend and I haven't even seen a Killers' prediction saying that anything close to $30 Million was in the cards.
Saturday, October 21, 2023 12:33 PM
Monday, October 23, 2023 6:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Meanwhile, without giving any number predictions, I'm going to say that my guess is that Eras Tour 2nd weekend trounces Killers' first weekend.
Wednesday, October 25, 2023 11:07 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Wednesday, October 25, 2023 1:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: So I might ask for a prediction for trends coming in the next 6 months the last time money flowed easy, its going back a while Guardians of the Galaxy, Aquaman, the Ironman and Batman movies, Halloween remake, Avengers Age of Ultron, Wonder Woman, Thor Ragnarok, studios knew how to make big block buster money with hits like Avengers Endgame ... just before M-She-U took over and it became Captain Marvel or the Wanda show or She-Hulk Covid hits the industry hard
Quote:There have been a few cinema movies which made money during the crash the Top Gun remake, Spider-Man: No Way Home, The Super Mario Bros Movie they finally sabotage their own ship with all this Antifa Maxist Right Left pro-islamo Transexual Open Border politics
Quote:Here's mine, this won't be the last Music Movie Concert thing it could have been done many decades ago but the editing and technology wasn't there. So I think the Monkees and Hendrix and Bowie and AC/DC and BB King and Eric Clapton and Queen and Joni Mitchell the Beatles were born in the wrong era People have already done the life story thing many times, Ray Charles, Queen but they have not done a fake-ish concert. There will be another pop star a 'Taylor Swift' with another fake-ish concert, they won't need to play an instrument or be that great a singer but they will have stage and stardom. I don't know who this person will be an ex member of a boyband or girlband, a Selena Gomez, Bruno Mars, Ed Sheeran, The Killers, Daft Punk, Green Day, U2, Led Zeppelin, ZZTop, Justin Timberlake...you might think some of these bands won't sell out and do such a thing but they will and even if only one member of the band is alive it will be an opportunity to put on one last show. the band or singer will need to be known, somewhat hip and current I honestly can not tell you what star people listen to today from pop or hiphip or rock or whatever.
Quote:Both Marvel Disney and DC Warner Bros will continue to have flops, too much nonsense put into their movies.
Quote:Some stars will lose their power Bad Boys 4 - Flop! Chris Rock has roasted his actions and Will Smith seems more like a pathetic person these days, Joker part II Folie à Deux probably flops I don't see it had the same shock or staying power as the original.
Quote:When Fantastic Four finally comes out in 2023, 2024, 2025 it will flop,
Quote: when Avatar 3 finally comes out in 2024, 2025 or 2026 it will flop.
Quote:Another Alien or Aliens prequel or sequel the Untitled Alien Movie, H. R. Giger, Ridley Scott I think this will flop they are expensive to make and Alien movies find it difficult to make profit, the original had a Budget $11 million but modern films of this kind are costing 100 million to make, are Universal Monsters even a thing anymore? any idea for a 'Predator' remake or similar type of scifi monster big cgi fx film will fail.
Quote:Demolition Man 2 and other science fiction action, might do ok but I have no idea when it comes out.
Quote:I don't know if 'The Registration' can make money, people have read the book but it seems to be a thriller murder topic with more adult content meaning you will have less in the cinema seats. Does Sydney Sweeney have star power or maybe she has other upcoming movies that would give it momentum?
Quote:An anime version or cinema cartoon version of the "Lord of the Rings" might do very well but I'm not sure, it all depends on how much studios are willing to back some Japanese guy and how well the Japanese guy does this LOTR product.
Quote:'Killers of the Flower Moon' is supposed to be a good movie but the Scorsese movie is said to be LONG these can be hard to prediction and you got the Barbie and Oppenheimer predictions wrong although other movies you almost got the predictions exactly correct Oppenheimer was long but made 616 M overseas and is making 945 Million worldwide. Some are already predicting success at $44 Million Box Office it is very early to predict, some might say it will make small profit and the star cinema performance more than returns are not the main measure, the 'Art'? it is being talked about and might make money also on streaming service.
Quote:Horror movie trends will continue, there will be a cheap production which can give a big money investment return.
Quote:I think S.Korea and some other seas movie and tv makers will continue to dominate streaming service, the South Koreans might have a reasonably successful hit in US Cinemas, I don't think the genre matters much but they will be able to make a somewhat successful global box office movie
Quote:That DVD Market, HD, The Blu-Ray will remain dead, you will have one big chance to make your money, there won't be much money returned on DVD sales the world economy is somewhat broke.
Quote:There is money to be made but they are smaller slots available and when some cash can arrive during a month it can be very competitive.
Quote:Video Game property becoming tv shows and movies will continue being a thing, the comicbook superhero thing is mostly dead for at least another year maybe even longer like a half decade to come or even more.
Quote:Canada should be making tv show hits like it has produced shows over the past decades but it is not doing the same today There is an opportunity for indie cinema and indie tv production in the USA
Quote:the last time Hollywood knew how to make money was half a decade ago, they will make less during election year and the fallout from the strikes might continue another year or so.
Quote:This will not be the last Pop Taylor Swift Star Concert Thing
Monday, October 30, 2023 12:26 PM
Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:42 PM
Sunday, November 19, 2023 7:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (October 13th): Per Bruce at the-numbers.com tonight: Quote:This is the moment when I would usually hone our prediction with the benefit of Thursday’s preview numbers. I’m not able to do that this week because of the unusual nature of the previews. They were announced just a couple of days ago after most superfans had already bought tickets, and not all theaters played them. Our model would be looking at those $2.8-million in last-minute ticket sales as pointing towards a weekend around $30 million. We already know domestic pre-sales for this weekend exceed that figure. In other words, the preview number really tells us nothing about how the weekend will turn out. Yup. Quote:Bruce predicts an opening Domestic weekend of $130 Million for this and a final Domestic take of $293 Million. He does not expect this thing to do anywhere near the business that Barbie did at $635 Million Domestic total after a $162 Million weekend. His Opening Weekend prediction also includes all the Swiftie pre-sales, and I'd assume he's considering this thing to be pretty front-loaded by super-fans while he doesn't expect it to have anywhere near the staying power that Barbie had. If the Domestic / International split for this concert thing is the same as Barbie's was (44% / 56%) and Bruce's prediction for Domestic is correct, this thing could be looking at making around $660 Million worldwide. I think that figure is a little bit (or a lot) too ambitious. If it hit $660 Million worldwide, that would place it at #8 on the list for 2023, beating every mega-budget Disney movie except for Guardians 3 by at least $100 Million and only being topped by Barbie, Super Mario Bros., Oppenheimer, Guardians 3, Fast X, Miles Morales 2 and a movie from China that is in 7th place. I think this one is more front-loaded than Bruce believes it to be and it's not very likely to get the repeat viewings that the blockbusters get for two simple reasons. 1. A good majority of these overpriced tickets are being purchased by parents that are taking their daughters to see it, and many of them aren't going to be likely to spend that much money on a repeat viewing of this. (When repeat-viewings are a huge part of the revenue of most Super Hero movies, or movies like Super Mario Bros and Barbie). 2. A good deal of those parents probably aren't ultra-mega Swift fans themselves and wouldn't want to sit through another 3 hour concert documentary even if the tickets weren't overpriced. Because of the weird nature of the pre-sales on this one, I still won't even dare putting out a prediction on this until the 2nd weekend's numbers roll in though, other than to say that I believe $660 Million worldwide is pie-in-the-sky thinking here.
Quote:Bruce predicts an opening Domestic weekend of $130 Million for this and a final Domestic take of $293 Million.
Friday, December 1, 2023 10:59 AM
Friday, December 1, 2023 12:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (October 30th): Although I think I remember hearing that they weren't going to keep it in theaters past the 2nd week of November at first, but now I'm seeing that it will get 13 weeks and won't end its run until some time in January. That being said, I think the (serious) predictions that this would make over $250 Million worldwide were correct. It's only got $47 Million to go and it's still got another 10 weekends in the theaters.
Friday, December 1, 2023 7:14 PM
Friday, December 1, 2023 8:59 PM
Sunday, December 3, 2023 11:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Bruce doesn't have a freakin' clue what to think. His model came up with $49 Million for Beyonce's thing, but he doesn't have any faith in that and finishes up his weekly prediction article saying basically "who knows... Songbirds and Snakes could possibly win the weekend again".
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: There must have been a whole lot more walk-up business for Beyonce's thing. I'm going to leave any discussions about racial makeup and computer savvy/credit access for others to ponder.
Tuesday, December 5, 2023 1:42 AM
Quote:Swift's film of her still ongoing tour broke the record for biggest debut of a concert film, beating out Michael Jackson's 2009 This Is It, with $128 million globally. Bey wrapped up her 56-show Renaissance World Tour in early October, becoming the highest grossing tour by a female artist in history — a record she'll likely cede to Swift's 151-show Eras Tour when it comes to a close next year.
Quote:All in all, Beyoncé's ninth concert tour pulled in $579 million, making it the highest-grossing tour by a female artist in history, and the seventh-highest-grossing tour overall.
Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:58 PM
Sunday, December 10, 2023 8:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Beyonce's concert thing droped a staggering -75.61% from opening Friday (after removing Thursday's preview numbers). ... They might as well just take this thing out of the theaters now. It's making Disney look good.
Tuesday, December 12, 2023 10:50 PM
Tuesday, December 12, 2023 10:52 PM
Tuesday, December 12, 2023 11:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: You are an idiot. This isn't 1995. Nobody is impressed with your ability to use google to find a link to a torrent site.
Wednesday, December 13, 2023 12:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: You are an idiot. This isn't 1995. Nobody is impressed with your ability to use google to find a link to a torrent site. That is exactly the point. Either pay $19.89 or FREE for the same movie. Your choice. If Hollywood chooses for you, it is $19.89. I keep neglecting to hammer this point into 6ixStringJack's head: 6ix thinks ticket sales are declining because Hollywood does not support Trump. I think Hollywood does not support Trump because he is a would-be dictator and an all-around scumbag criminal, which is separate from the technical problem of Hollywood charging for experiences that can be had for FREE. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, December 13, 2023 5:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Piracy has nothing to do with anything here. Movie piracy has been around since high speed internet was a thing. Global box office by year since Trump's last year and Biden took office... 2020 $2,113,846,800 2021 $4,482,808,453 2022 $7,369,505,492 2023 $8,361,223,808 That's nearly a 400% increase in 4 years. I've never said Hollywood is failing because it doesn't agree with Trump. Not once. Universal has made $1.5 Billion in profit in 2023. Disney has lost $1.8 Billion in 2023. One studio makes movies that people want to see. The other studio doesn't. Figure it out.
Wednesday, December 13, 2023 1:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: And 6ix, I know perfectly well that you hate Disney because it does not support Trump.
Quote:Don't pretend that hate is not your motivation for writing dozens of different threads about Hollywood movies failing.
Quote:I see the same hatred from East Texas Trumptards who never heard of Firefly and do NOT post on fireflyfans.net 6ix, stop pretending your psychology is different than typical Trumptards. You are so not special.
Quote:I hate Trumptards
Quote:because you are crappy workmen who steal fuel and tools. The richer Trumptards have the same rotten business ethics as Trump. I have to cancel contracts and sue them whenever I make the mistake of giving them work. Trumptards are crooks/thieves/liars/assholes, but what else would you expect from people who feel free of any restraints and always seek only pleasure?
Wednesday, December 13, 2023 2:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: And 6ix, I know perfectly well that you hate Disney because it does not support Trump. Incorrect. I hate that Disney has turned into what it has turned into, and I love watching it fail because of that. Donald Fucking Trump has nothing to do with this at all. I know it's hard for you to wrap your one-track mind around that fact because all you ever think about is Trump. Quote:Don't pretend that hate is not your motivation for writing dozens of different threads about Hollywood movies failing.
Wednesday, December 13, 2023 2:24 PM
Friday, December 15, 2023 11:10 PM
Saturday, December 16, 2023 5:05 PM
Sunday, December 17, 2023 11:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (December 15th): Bruce doesn't even have Beyonce's thing in the Top 10 this week, but I'm not convinced that wasn't just an oversight on his part. He's got The Shift in 9th place with $1.16 Million and Silent Night in 10th place with $972k. Yeah... Beyonce's thing is terrible and lost 75% on the 2nd weekend with a worldwide total under $35 Million, but even if it lost 75% again on the 3rd weekend it would still be $1.37 Million and hit 8th place. It did $360k on Thursday night. I don't see how it doesn't land 9th place by the time the weekend is over.
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