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The Marvels Failure Thread
Tuesday, November 14, 2023 6:47 AM
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Tuesday, November 14, 2023 8:08 AM
Tuesday, November 14, 2023 8:23 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Tuesday, November 14, 2023 8:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (November 11th): Normally, this is where I'd mention that usually projections, especially on opening weekend, are lower than reality because the studio doesn't want to embarrass themselves, but I'm not sure about what Disney's psychology on this one is going to be right now. Risk lowballing the numbers on opening night as per usual and make all the Saturday headlines even worse than they were going to be, or risk highballing the Friday prediction and possibly project low for Sunday to still come in lower than the actual numbers that are posted on Monday? My money is that Disney's projected numbers for Friday are actually higher than reality just because the headlines that are going to come out today are embarrassing enough already. They might throw out convention entirely here and highball the whole damn weekend just to try to salvage some of the headlines with their shill outfits like Variety and Deadline and hope that not too many people are listening to the people like me who would catch them in the act come Monday if they try that.
Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Yeah. It's great watching the Legacy Media finally turn on Disney/Marvel. 2 years ago Second would be telling me that The Marvels wasn't made for me, but look at how he's grown.
Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: ‘The Marvels’ flop shows that Kevin Feige’s ‘brilliance,’ which drove $29B for Marvel, is no match for Disney’s insatiable need for content Mon, November 13, 2023 at 9:55 AM CST A major reason for the film's flop is that the workload placed on Marvel's chief creative engine, president Kevin Feige, is starting to catch up with him, according to the authors of the recently published MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios. Feige was the man most responsible for delivering Marvel's string of blockbusters, starting with 2008's Iron Man, and turning the studio into a dominant player in Hollywood. But as Marvel's ambitions grew and the studio churned out an increasing number of streaming shows to go along with its usual theatrical releases, it has struggled to stretch Feige's talents, Dave Gonzales, Gavin Edwards, and longtime pop culture journalist and chronicler of superhero movies Joanna Robinson write in MCU. Since Disney—Marvel’s parent company—launched its Disney+ streaming service in 2019, Feige has been overextended, they argue. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/marvels-flop-shows-kevin-feige-155537495.html I doubt this explanation. It is not lower ticket sales caused by lower quality. I don't think the quality has dropped at all.
Quote:It is lower ticket sales caused by excessive quantity. It is too much of the same old thing too frequently.
Quote:When you can get Hollywood's movies for free, if you wait a month, why go to the theater with its snacks that cost more than the ticket?
Tuesday, November 14, 2023 2:06 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:13 PM
Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I also heard that there is a new South Park episode, reflecting on Kathleen Kennedy, where all of the South Park characters have been re-cast as diversity tards.
Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I heard that both Marvels and Snow White cost $300 M.
Quote:It used to be that The Onion would assign names in stories for specific purposes of reference, but I check film critic Ross Bowden and only get a direct link to this one specific story. So no backstory, apparently. I also heard that there is a new South Park episode, reflecting on Kathleen Kennedy, where all of the South Park characters have been re-cast as diversity tards.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I keep hearing the excuse for rock bottom Opening Box Office is because "the Strikes" Who is going to believe that insipid rot?
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 8:41 PM
ANONYMOUSE
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 11:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Anonymouse: Say what you like - and I know you will :) - I liked it.
Quote:And hasn't anyone spotted the fact that, if nothing else, it passes the Bechdel Test? :)
Thursday, November 16, 2023 11:14 AM
Thursday, November 16, 2023 5:50 PM
Thursday, November 16, 2023 5:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: $47 mill, wanna take bets on how bad a drop off for next weekend? I'm going to predict over 60%
Thursday, November 16, 2023 6:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Almost dinner time and Disney still hasn't put out the Wednesday numbers? It didn't just suffer the post Cheap Seat Tuesday drop that Five Nights at Freddy's did opening week, did it? That would be catastrophic.
Friday, November 17, 2023 7:03 AM
Friday, November 17, 2023 7:09 PM
Friday, November 17, 2023 7:21 PM
Saturday, November 18, 2023 8:35 AM
Quote:I don't want to focus on something that's not even in my control, because what's the point? That's for Bob Iger. [The Box Office] has nothing to do with me. I'm happy with the finished product, and the people that I care about enjoyed the film.
Saturday, November 18, 2023 10:41 AM
WHOZIT
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Either Steven King is back on the bottle or he needs to be... Stephen King Roasted For Blaming ‘The Marvels’ Failure On ‘Adolescent Fanboy Hate’ https://www.dailywire.com/news/stephen-king-roasted-for-blaming-the-marvels-failure-on-adolescent-fanboy-hate-maybe-the-movie-just-sucks Fuck you too, Steve. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
Saturday, November 18, 2023 11:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Either Steven King is back on the bottle or he needs to be... Stephen King Roasted For Blaming ‘The Marvels’ Failure On ‘Adolescent Fanboy Hate’ https://www.dailywire.com/news/stephen-king-roasted-for-blaming-the-marvels-failure-on-adolescent-fanboy-hate-maybe-the-movie-just-sucks Fuck you too, Steve. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face. They'll never learn that YOU DON'T PISS OFF THE FAN BASE!! I get the feeling that they think we're 'suppose' to see their garbage, when you lose a costumer they stay gone!
Saturday, November 18, 2023 11:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I guess Nia DaCosta lost her mind the other day and went on an anti-white/anti-male tirade for her movie failing as hard as it is. '‘The Marvels’ Director Nia DaCosta Describes Critics Of Woke Marvel As “Virulent And Violent And Racist And Sexist And Homophobic”' https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/11/15/the-marvels-director-nia-dacosta-describes-critics-of-woke-marvel-as-virulent-and-violent-and-racist-and-sexist-and-homophobic/ I take back any nice things I said about her. Fuck her. Fuck her movie. Fuck her career. I will never watch a movie that she directs. By the way, bitch. Your movie made only $1.2 Million on Thursday. You're going to have your first sub-Million day on day 11 just like Blue Beetle did. Good luck hitting $200 Million worldwide. And good luck trying to get 3rd place this weekend. Thanksgiving is right on your tail and it was playing in 1,310 theaters less than your shit was. You might drop to 4th place by the time the weekend is over. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
Saturday, November 18, 2023 1:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Either Steven King is back on the bottle or he needs to be... Stephen King Roasted For Blaming ‘The Marvels’ Failure On ‘Adolescent Fanboy Hate’ https://www.dailywire.com/news/stephen-king-roasted-for-blaming-the-marvels-failure-on-adolescent-fanboy-hate-maybe-the-movie-just-sucks Fuck you too, Steve. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face. They'll never learn that YOU DON'T PISS OFF THE FAN BASE!! I get the feeling that they think we're 'suppose' to see their garbage, when you lose a costumer they stay gone! Absolutely. Steve says a ton of dumb Lefty shit no Twitter everyday. He's a regular George Takai. The same day he said this, he said he's not into comic books and doesn't watch MCU movies. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
Saturday, November 18, 2023 5:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Either Steven King is back on the bottle or he needs to be... Stephen King Roasted For Blaming ‘The Marvels’ Failure On ‘Adolescent Fanboy Hate’ https://www.dailywire.com/news/stephen-king-roasted-for-blaming-the-marvels-failure-on-adolescent-fanboy-hate-maybe-the-movie-just-sucks Fuck you too, Steve. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face. They'll never learn that YOU DON'T PISS OFF THE FAN BASE!! I get the feeling that they think we're 'suppose' to see their garbage, when you lose a costumer they stay gone! Absolutely. Steve says a ton of dumb Lefty shit no Twitter everyday. He's a regular George Takai. The same day he said this, he said he's not into comic books and doesn't watch MCU movies. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face. I'm still a fan of King, I'm not going to stop rewatching 'Chistine' because he's a left wing dimwit. He's been able to keep lefty politics out of his books and films, he should know that you should give the fan base what they want, not what YOU want. I wonder if he's going to say 'Christine' is a Republican because she's red?
Sunday, November 19, 2023 11:46 AM
Sunday, November 19, 2023 4:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Last weekend I predicted this flick would have a drop off of around 60%, I was wrong, it's going to be well over 70%
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: $47 mill, wanna take bets on how bad a drop off for next weekend? I'm going to predict over 60% You may be right. BoxOfficePro predicts a -65% drop for The Marvels in the 2nd weekend with only $16 Million this weekend. https://www.boxofficepro.com/weekend-box-office-forecast-the-hunger-games-the-ballad-of-songbirds-and-snakes-next-goal-wins-trolls-band-together-and-thanksgiving/ Good news for people who wanted to see this crash and burn. Bad news probably for people who also wanted to see Songbirds and Snakes crash and burn. Looks like Rachel Zegler destroys Disney profits whether she's working for them or not. Everybody go see Trolls!
Monday, November 20, 2023 7:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It looks like The Marvels and Thanksgiving are in a virtual 3rd place tie right now at $10.2 Million each for weekend 2. That would be a staggering -78% drop, which beats Five Nights at Freddy's -76%. I've only been tracking movies deeply for about a year, but until FNAF dropped -76% I'd never seen a drop that hard before. It didn't take long for The Marvels to break that (at least one year) record. Archive: https://archive.ph/M7NGJ (I archived this because by tomorrow this will change and be lost forever. Even though they're tied at $10.2 Million, Bruce put The Marvels above Thanksgiving). So what's Disney's psychology on the projections for the 2nd weekend? I called it on opening weekend that we'd see the first time where a major studio actually claimed nearly $1 Million more in projections opening week instead of $1-$3 lower than reality. Did Disney try and repeat that this weekend and now risks being absolutely humiliated when Thanksgiving ends up making more and pushing it into 4th place, or did they already see that no amount of lying and puffing up numbers on Weekend 2 was going to matter so they safely land ahead of Thanksgiving in 3rd place? Did they lowball it like they usually would have and are they going to match FNAF's -76% drop, or did they highball it again and maybe they end up with an -80% drop in reality?
Tuesday, November 21, 2023 7:59 AM
Tuesday, November 21, 2023 8:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Fuck you racist/sexist Disney. Fuck you racist/sexist diversity hire Nia. And Fuck your woke trash movie that nobody is paying to see.
Tuesday, November 21, 2023 6:26 PM
Tuesday, November 21, 2023 6:38 PM
Wednesday, November 22, 2023 1:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It wasn't just a weekend thing. The Marvels takes 4th place on Monday below Thanksgiving, barely getting edged out by about $63.4k We don't know what Songbirds & Snakes Monday drop is yet because it hasn't been posted. I doubt it fell enough to fall below Trolls Band Together yet. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
Wednesday, November 22, 2023 1:29 PM
OLDGUY
What Would Mal do ?
Wednesday, November 22, 2023 2:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It wasn't just a weekend thing. The Marvels takes 4th place on Monday below Thanksgiving, barely getting edged out by about $63.4k We don't know what Songbirds & Snakes Monday drop is yet because it hasn't been posted. I doubt it fell enough to fall below Trolls Band Together yet. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face. S&S had a 51% drop Monday while 'The Marvels' dropped 60%, enjoy turkey day P.S. I get these numbers from www.boxofficemojo.com
Wednesday, November 22, 2023 2:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by OLDGUY: silly boy..that's not for the movie, that was the money spent on mules to stuff boxes for the Biden election night (grin)
Wednesday, November 22, 2023 6:35 PM
Sunday, December 3, 2023 7:29 PM
Friday, December 8, 2023 7:42 PM
Friday, December 8, 2023 8:19 PM
Friday, December 8, 2023 10:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: The Marvels had an entire month to make its money before you pirates leaked it online. If a movie doesn't make its production budget back by the end of the first week, it will not break even. The Marvels hasn't even broken $200 Million worldwide yet, grossing only $198 Million near the end of its run, or 72% of its production budget. Your illegal copy had nothing at all to do with The Marvel's failure. Nada. Zilch. Zero.
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Hell... I doubt very much either of them gross as much as Sound of Freedom did, and that movie only cost $14.5 Million to make.
Friday, December 8, 2023 11:12 PM
Saturday, December 9, 2023 12:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Keep making up whatever bullshit you'd like dude. The truth is that Disney has lost nearly $2 Billion at the box office in 2023. Meanwhile, Five Nights at Freddy's is a Universal picture. Universal has made over $1.5 Billion during 2023. And Angel Studios on Sound of Freedom alone has made over $200 Million. People are going to see movies, whether they're pirated or not. Whether they're free legally or not. They're just not watching your woke shit at Disney. The grift is over, and they will all be fired.
Saturday, December 9, 2023 9:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Annual Ticket Sales https://www.the-numbers.com/market/ have been decreasing since 2002 and will keep decreasing, hopefully, until there are only a few screens for the entire USA. That's my prediction.
Quote:Unless you own Disney/NBC/Universal/Comcast/AMC Theater stock, why would you care? Sell that stock.
Quote:Do you think Disney's failures prove Trump will be the next President rather than the next obese President who chokes to death on his own fat?
Saturday, December 9, 2023 10:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: In an America that wasn't diseased by Leftist Ideology, Trump never would have won in 2016 and he wasn't going to win next year. The reason I care is because watching the successes and failures of the movie industry is a great barometer of what way the winds in the culture war are blowing. Most of the folk who go see movies are normies. Your agenda is dead when the normies woke up and collectively rejected it, as they did in 2023.
Saturday, December 9, 2023 10:24 AM
Saturday, December 9, 2023 10:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: In an America that wasn't diseased by Leftist Ideology, Trump never would have won in 2016 and he wasn't going to win next year. The reason I care is because watching the successes and failures of the movie industry is a great barometer of what way the winds in the culture war are blowing. Most of the folk who go see movies are normies. Your agenda is dead when the normies woke up and collectively rejected it, as they did in 2023.When I was a kid, there were complaints I agreed with at the time (1961) that TV was a vast wasteland. https://www.history.com/speeches/the-vast-wasteland-of-television It still is, but it has gotten vaster (that's a word) and wastier (not a word). I noticed who watched a lot of TV, too, back in the '60s. Assholes were who. Their children and grandchildren became today's Trumptards. It is not at all surprising, when you think about it, that worthless people waste their lives on crappy crime shows like Joker and Sound of Freedom and vote for criminals like Trump. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, December 9, 2023 10:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Maybe Disney should stop trying to make movies for people like you since none of you actually pay for anything. Five Nights at Freddy's was made for 13.75% of The Marvel's budget and was available to stream for free, legally, from day one with a $5.99 per month Peacock membership, which means it was also available to stream for free illegally from day one as well. It's at $293 Million right now, or 1,465% of its production budget.
Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (November 11th): Normally, this is where I'd mention that usually projections, especially on opening weekend, are lower than reality because the studio doesn't want to embarrass themselves, but I'm not sure about what Disney's psychology on this one is going to be right now. Risk lowballing the numbers on opening night as per usual and make all the Saturday headlines even worse than they were going to be, or risk highballing the Friday prediction and possibly project low for Sunday to still come in lower than the actual numbers that are posted on Monday? My money is that Disney's projected numbers for Friday are actually higher than reality just because the headlines that are going to come out today are embarrassing enough already. They might throw out convention entirely here and highball the whole damn weekend just to try to salvage some of the headlines with their shill outfits like Variety and Deadline and hope that not too many people are listening to the people like me who would catch them in the act come Monday if they try that. Am I awesome or am I awesome? The Marvels ACTUAL weekend gross Domestic: $46,110,859 In the entire time that I've been tracking movies, I've NEVER seen a studio highball their weekend prediction. Not once. Until now. And I called it. In fact, I've said on at least half a dozen occasions when posting about a new movie that just came out that it will probably have $1 or $2 Million more when the actual numbers come in (It's all in my post history). I'm in Bob Iger's head now. The ragebaiters on YouTube all seemed to have missed this, but I didn't Bob. I'm calling you out. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
Sunday, December 10, 2023 6:50 AM
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