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Uggh... Barbie looks awful (and Oppenheimer is too long)

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Wednesday, July 26, 2023 11:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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"Japan Was Already Defeated": The Case Against the Nuclear Bomb and for Basic Morality

By Timothy P. Carney

July 26, 2023

“I was against it on two counts,” Dwight Eisenhower, supreme allied commander, five-star general, and president of the United States, said of dropping nuclear bombs on two Japanese cities. “First, the Japanese were ready to surrender, and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon.”

This certainly cuts against the common argument these days: that dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved lives, certainly the lives of American soldiers, and maybe even Japanese lives on net.

Since the movie Oppenheimer came out, I have had occasion to opine against the nuclear bombings based on straightforward moral principles. I have repeatedly been told that I am being too precious.

Many view the question of whether to kill the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as an example of the “trolley problem.”

The trolley problem is a philosophical exercise meant to test the distinction between the moral weight of the actions we choose versus the consequences of inaction. Is it the better decision to take an action that kills one person versus taking an inaction that results in five deaths?

The implication is that nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima is flipping a lever, rerouting the trolley, and causing the death of fewer people.

It’s a fine ethical exercise, but it’s inapplicable in real life for a million reasons because, in real life, things don’t run like an automated trolley on a track. We know where a trolley will go if we don’t flip a switch because there is a track there. We don’t know what Japan’s military and civilian population would have done had we not flipped the switch.

Defenders of the atomic bomb say that our only alternative to the deliberate slaughter of tens of thousands of noncombatants, including babies and elderly women, was a massive land invasion that would have cost millions of lives. They present this as if it was one of two sets of train tracks available.

People who were very involved at the time disagree. Again, Eisenhower said the Japanese were about to surrender.

Eisenhower told his biographer that he expressed to War Secretary Harry Stimson his “grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face.’”

Was Eisenhower right that the atomic bomb was “no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives”? I don’t know! Neither do you! There’s a lot of uncertainty here.

Adm. William Leahy, President Harry Truman’s chief military adviser, agreed with Eisenhower. “It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan,” Leahy wrote. “The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.”

Again, you can believe other people besides Leahy or Eisenhower. I can’t adjudicate the various claims. But I can conclude that there was lots of uncertainty about where this war was going. There certainly weren’t just two possible paths.

When we are deeply uncertain about the consequences of our actions, where do we turn? We turn to moral principles, including the principle that it is immoral to kill innocent women and children.

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/japan-was-already-defeated-the-case-against
-the-nuclear-bomb-and-for-basic-morality
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Get fucked, Carney. Yeah. You are to precious. But only when your "I hate America" is hanging out.

Where's your "moral principals" about drone strikes killing women and children when you've got the President you want in office?

I bet that article doesn't exist. Because people like you don't have any moral principals.


You people are loathsome.



And go bounce on your trolley problem.



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Thursday, July 27, 2023 6:24 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Where's (correction: where are) your "moral principals" (correction: principles) about drone strikes killing women and children when you've got the President you want in office?

I bet that article doesn't exist. Because people like you don't have any moral principals. (correction: principles)


You people are loathsome.

Joe Biden has all but ended US drone warfare



https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-joe-biden-has-all-but-ended-us-dron
e-warfare
/

In the second year of President Joe Biden’s administration, the number of US airstrikes fell to a historic low
https://airwars.org/research/us-airstrikes-fell-to-historic-low-in-202
2-despite-fresh-operations
/

6ixStringJack, your signature reads: "How you do anything is how you do everything."
6ix, you and every Trumptard I know (without even one exception) do everything in a half-ass manner, just exactly how you did this particular comment claiming Democrats are killing people with drone strikes. That is why your lives are "difficult", "unfulfilling", "disappointing", or whatever single word describes your feelings. Your feelings are not caused by Democrats. Your feelings are caused by you and how you live and screw up everything you touch.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 27, 2023 7:51 AM

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The tragedy of the Manhattan Project
Framing nuclear as a military-first technology has been disastrous for mankind

by Matthew Yglesias, Jul 27, 2023

If you were writing a Manhattan Project movie as a work of fiction, you would tell a different story than any of the contested versions of reality.

The fictional version might go something like this: the United States starts way behind in nuclear physics, with fission having been first demonstrated in Berlin in December of 1938 and the world’s premier quantum scientist, Werner Heisenberg, leading the German effort. But Albert Einstein and Leo Szilard, two Jewish refugees from Hitler’s dictatorship, write to FDR that the United States needs to explore the creation of a fission bomb. Robert Oppenheimer, from a wealthy assimilated Jewish family, leads a team that features critical contributions at every level from exiles and emigres. They beat Heisenberg to the bomb — in part because Niels Bohr refuses to help the Nazis and in part because Hitler thinks quantum mechanics is “Jewish science” — and, because of this nuclear breakthrough, win the war.

As the movie “Oppenheimer” shows, this is more or less the narrative the Manhattan Project protagonists thought they were living out.

But they were wrong. Their work was incredibly impressive from a technical standpoint, and it did end up getting used in the war. But Germany had already surrendered, and despite the endless debates over the validity of its use on Japan, no one thinks the United States wouldn’t have won the war without nuclear bombs. Instead, the causal importance of the Manhattan Project for the world was all about its influence on the postwar era. Again, as detailed in the film, the American government was initially optimistic about obtaining a monopoly on nuclear weapons, but that proved short-lived in part thanks to Soviet espionage.

And what I think is really interesting is that while the Manhattan Project indisputably accelerated nuclear science, I think that by turning nuclear research into a military-first undertaking, in the longer run it probably retarded the development of nuclear electricity for civilian purposes. This is the kind of thing that’s by nature inherently speculative. But as a person who loves counterfactual historical speculations, I think it’s correct — if World War II had somehow not happened, commercial nuclear reactors would have been built later but in a more sustainable way that eventually led to their more widespread adoption.

The Manhattan Project didn’t accomplish its goals

People continue to debate the morality of the decision to drop the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but in important ways there never was a “decision” in the way that people often think about this. Harry Truman established presidential control over the use of nuclear weapons after the bombing of Nagasaki. That’s not to say he was somehow out of the loop on the earlier bombings; he always accepted responsibility for them as part of the overall ethic of “the buck stops here.”

But on an operational level, no distinction was drawn between nuclear weapons and other forms of ordinance. The United States was at war with Japan, and the military commanders were empowered to deploy available weapons in order to try to defeat their enemy.

The interesting high-level policy decision was the decision to build the bombs in the first place. This was a monumental undertaking that cost $2 billion relative to the 1940 GDP of $200 billion. Importantly, the bulk of that money did not go to Oppenheimer and his famous team of scientists at Los Alamos. Everything you see in the movie in the New Mexico desert — the town built from scratch, the international all-star team of physicists, the testing site, etc. — accounted for about 10% of the program’s budget. The bulk of the expense was building the multiple nuclear reactors and supportive infrastructure required to manufacture the quantity of fissile material needed to build the bombs. In other words, it wasn’t just a very expensive science project (though it was that), it was also an even more expensive manufacturing program.

Having achieved success, General Leslie Groves and the even higher-level officials who authorized the program obviously weren’t going to say “well, this bomb isn’t even that useful.” They used it in hopes of ending the war faster, and in this case it worked.

But a separate question from the wisdom of using the bomb, now having built it, was whether it made sense ex post to have built it in the first place. A science project that wasn’t useful against Germany isn’t just disappointing from a narrative standpoint; the entire strategic concept of the Unites States from 1940 onward was “Europe First.” If you’d proposed a very expensive and difficult undertaking that wasn’t helpful in beating Germany, it would have been rejected. But it’s hard to predict the future, and ex ante it seemed like a good idea, given the purported threat of the Nazi Bomb. And the sheer sunk cost ended up shaping postwar history.

A world without Hitler

But what if Hitler had never come to power? One way of generating that counterfactual outcome involves assuming something different happened in World War I. Those WWI counterfactuals are near and dear to my heart, but a little wacky for these purposes.

Instead let’s posit that the center-right Brüning Cabinet inaugurated in 1930 embarked on a program of fiscal and monetary stimulus that successfully fought the Great Depression. The likely upshot would be that in the 1932 federal elections, the various non-Nazi rightist parties gain vote share rather than losing it. The non-Nazi right of the Weimar era was not a particularly friendly or admirable group of people, but they wouldn’t have launched a huge war, provoked an exodus of scientists from Europe, or compelled left-wing American scientists to push for a crash military physics program. Germany itself would have settled down into something resembling “normal” left-right politics, the United States would continue to be somewhat isolationist in its outlook, and Britain and France would have been focused on imperial issues.

In this context, nobody is looking at the early fission experiments of 1938–1939 and saying the government needs to throw money at this.

And without military funding, nuclear reactor construction proceeds much more slowly (it’s expensive!) and primarily for pure scientific research. In real history, Chicago Pile-1 was the world’s first reactor and it was built for research, but immediately after that the U.S. government started building reactors to manufacture fissile material. Counterfactually, we’d have seen multiple research reactors rolled out over a period of years. These reactors would have posed the question “is there a cost-effective way to use this technology to make electricity?” and work would have proceeded over time on trying to find positive answers to that question. And of course, as is often the case in peacetime, there would have been military spinoffs as civilian technology advanced. The internal combustion engine was not developed in order to power tanks, but once ICE vehicles were around we got military designs.

More at https://www.slowboring.com/p/the-tragedy-of-the-manhattan-project

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 27, 2023 8:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Where's (correction: where are) your "moral principals" (correction: principles) about drone strikes killing women and children when you've got the President you want in office?

I bet that article doesn't exist. Because people like you don't have any moral principals. (correction: principles)


You people are loathsome.

Joe Biden has all but ended US drone warfare



https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-joe-biden-has-all-but-ended-us-dron
e-warfare
/

In the second year of President Joe Biden’s administration, the number of US airstrikes fell to a historic low
https://airwars.org/research/us-airstrikes-fell-to-historic-low-in-202
2-despite-fresh-operations
/

6ixStringJack, your signature reads: "How you do anything is how you do everything."
6ix, you and every Trumptard I know (without even one exception) do everything in a half-ass manner, just exactly how you did this particular comment claiming Democrats are killing people with drone strikes. That is why your lives are "difficult", "unfulfilling", "disappointing", or whatever single word describes your feelings. Your feelings are not caused by Democrats. Your feelings are caused by you and how you live and screw up everything you touch.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




LOL @ fat retard Kevin Drum.

I can make graphs saying whatever I want them to say too, dummy.

Did he give you any more gross pictures of him shirtless on the toilet for you to jerk off to recently?

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Thursday, July 27, 2023 11:48 AM

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Barbie made $1.1 M on Last Wed, with promotions.
$21.2 M on Thursday, not sure how many showings/times.
$48.2 M on Friday.
$47.8 M on Saturday - the whole day.
$43.7 M on Sunday.
$26.1 M on Monday.
This is a movie that really seems front-loaded.



Well... I'm hoping that it is.

But that $26.1 Million on a non-holiday Monday give me pause.

Here's a list of movies released in 2023 that had a higher Monday Box Office (Holiday or not) than Barbie just did:





And now it looks like it just made another $26 Million on Cheap Seat Tuesday.

If true, that will put it at number 11 on the Biggest Tuesday at the Domestic Box Office.

https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/bes
t-performance-by-day-of-the-week/tuesday


Once again, let's break down which movies are above it.

1. Spider-Man: Far From Home (Jul 2, 2019): Two days before Independence Day.
2. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (Dec 22, 2015): First Disney Star Wars Movie; Winter Break; Tuesday before Christmas.
3. The Amazing Spider-Man (Jul 3, 2012): One day before Independence Day.
4. Avengers: End Game (Apr 30, 2019): End Game.
5. Spider-Man: No Way Home (Dec 21, 2021): Tuesday before Christmas.
6. The Lion King (Jul 23, 2019): No holidays in vicinity. Billion Dollar Live Action Disney Remake Era.
7. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (Dec 29, 2015): Tail end of Winter Break.
8. Transformers (July 3, 2007): Day before Independence Day.
9. Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Last Jedi (Dec 26, 2017): Day after Christmas.
10. Incredibles 2 (Jun 19, 2018): President's Day/Federal Holiday. Not Juneteenth yet.

Once again, all of those movies were Marvel and/or Lucasfilm and/or sequels/reboots and/or fell on a holiday. Transformers is a joke these days, but the hype around that was was insane back in 2007.



Unless Barbie falls off a cliff, there could be a chance the movie makes it to the top of the 2023 Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget despite it's (modest for a blockbuster) $100 Million Production Budget. That's the same budget that Super Mario Bros had, and it's number 2 on the list with 1,355% right now. And although it's impossible for me to go back and get the actual worldwide number for SMB after 5 days of release, I can see that Barbie already has made $10 Million more than SMB did in the Domestic Box Office in that time.

But if you look at the way the numbers were tabulated for both movies, Day 5 on SMB is Sunday where it is Tuesday for Barbie with no "preview day" for SMB... So shenanigans?

If we match up Tuesday to Tuesday, SMB was ahead of Barbie by about $26 Million at this point.


In just 5 days Barbie has already made 408% of its Production Budget back worldwide.

I think this is all terrible news, but I'm not really sure about that front-loaded theory of yours, JSF.

I was hoping for a 70% drop off in the 2nd weekend, but we're 2 days into the week right now when most folk are working and we have yet to see a 70% drop off from the bloated Friday number that includes whatever it pulled in on Wednesday and Thursday of last week.

We're probably going to see figures in the very high $20 Million to middle $30 Million range all weekend.


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I've already put the Biggest Monday and Tuesday lists together. I'm not going to do the Biggest Wednesday too.

I'll just mention that although the movies that beat it are more of the same (Marvel, Star-Wars, Disney Sequels/Remakes), there were quite a few other properties that didn't hit the toplists of Monday and Tuesday such as Harry Potter movies, Lord of the rings movies, The Passion of the Christ, a Matrix flick and Twilight: Eclipse topping the list. A big reason for this is Wednesday is a day they release flicks early, and all 5 of the top 5 movies were their opening day, with 7 of the top 10 being the opening day and 13 of the top 20 being opening day for movies on the Wednesday list. And yes, many of them were Federal Holidays, right next to Federal Holidays or during Winter Break.

That being said, Barbie made another $23 Million on a non-holiday Wednesday and came in 24th place all time Wednesday Domestic (not adjusted for inflation).

It's now made 430% of its production budget in 6 days, and would find itself already at 10th place on that list for 2023.



Meanwhile, with Oppenheimer....

It's now made $231 Million Worldwide.

When I was looking at the-numbers and other sites for production budget over the weekend, I was told that Oppenheimer cost $180 Million to make. Right now, the-numbers says that it only cost $100 Million to make. A Google search now says this is the case too, citing wikipedia.

With all the weird stuff happening at the-numbers, there's a good chance that Bruce had the wrong number up there the other day. There's also a slim chance I just got it wrong too, but I doubt that.

Anyhow, with that being said, instead of breaking even over the weekend, Oppenheimer had actually made 180% of its production budget, and is now a winner with 231% of the production budget. I will adjust the weekend list accordingly.

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Sunday, July 30, 2023 7:53 PM

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In just 5 days Barbie has already made 408% of its Production Budget back worldwide.

I think this is all terrible news, but I'm not really sure about that front-loaded theory of yours, JSF.

I was hoping for a 70% drop off in the 2nd weekend, but we're 2 days into the week right now when most folk are working and we have yet to see a 70% drop off from the bloated Friday number that includes whatever it pulled in on Wednesday and Thursday of last week.

We're probably going to see figures in the very high $20 Million to middle $30 Million range all weekend.



Projections on Barbie for the 2nd weekend:

Friday: $29,000,000
Saturday: $34,600,000
Sunday: $29,400,000

And as I've brought up several times before, the studios usually downplay their performances on the big blockbusters for at least the first month to six weeks so they don't embarrass themselves, so it's extremely likely that Barbie actually made $2 to $5 Million more over the weekend than these projections when the real numbers come in tomorrow night.

Worldwide, Barbie has already made 775% of its $100 Million production budget in only 10 days, which quickly put it 5th place on the 2023 Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget list that I'll update tomorrow, in between Insidious' roughly 1,019% for 4th place and Evil Dead Rise's final 768%.

If it doesn't slow down this week, it is possible that it will bypass Sound of Freedom next weekend, and if SoF doesn't do as well overseas as it did in the US, it's possible that it never catches up to Barbie if that happens.

Who knows what's going to happen here. Barbie, at least so far unfortunately, has been the phenomena that the Legacy Media predicted it would be and Tom Cruise himself was worried that it would be.

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Wednesday, August 2, 2023 2:19 PM

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'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
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Wednesday, August 2, 2023 2:25 PM

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‘Barbie,’ and why conservatives keep losing the culture war

by Derek Hunter, a former staffer for Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.)

I’m not proud of the fact that I’ve seen the Barbie movie, but I’ve seen the Barbie movie.

I have two daughters, ages six and four. They wanted to see “Barbie” because, well…Barbie. I was hoping they’d forget about it long enough for it to come onto cable and spare me the humiliation, but no such luck.

That left me with the prospect of disappointing my children or sucking it up and going to see what I was reasonably certain, based on reviews, would be two hours of obnoxious left-wing indoctrination. Naturally, I chose the latter.

If I was going to be forced to watch this, I was going to do it on my terms. I live in a rural area that turns out to have several drive-in theaters within reasonable distance, and Barbie was playing at almost all of them. So we loaded up the family trickster and set out for the drive-in.

It was some comfort that the tickets were only $10, as opposed to the usual $25 and up (depending on which theater you go to), and an added bonus that the youngest got in free. If Hollywood is going to get my money for this, I thought, I’ll make it as little as possible.

We got there and got set up. I don’t know when you last went to the drive-in, but you should see if there are any near you, because the experience was fun. I’d gone a lot growing up — our house was 2 miles from a drive-in — and it was always a blast, even when the movies left something to be desired. I wanted my kids to experience it at least once. (As it turns out, they loved it too, so we will likely return.)

After setting up our chairs and raiding the concession, we turned on the portable radio and tuned to the correct FM station as the movie started.

My eyes were ready to roll.

Only they didn’t.

The movie was no masterpiece, but I found it to be good. Margot Robbie is an excellent actress and easy on ready-to-roll eyes. Ryan Gosling was actually hilarious as Ken. I’m not a laugh-out-loud kind of guy — a chuckle is the most you’ll usually get from me — but this movie made me laugh out loud more than once. My girls were all-in from the start, laughing at goofy things and loving the clothes and life-size dream houses.

There was, of course, the left-wing whining about “the patriarchy” that many right-leaning reviewers have noted. Fortunately, young kids do not know what any of that is, and they are also smart enough not to wonder or ask about it. The Barbie World, to them, is about Barbie.

The only question I got was from my six-year-old, about the one obvious obscenity that the movie bleeps out for comedic effect. (There is no swearing in the movie.) She didn’t like that. She does not like “bad words,” even if she had no idea which bad word it was or what it was about.

And that was it. The plot of the movie didn’t matter — it never does to young kids. Teens might understand it and need a little discussion afterward.

The only person who didn’t enjoy the experience was my wife. She grew up with Barbie as, I imagine, most women today have. The movie’s left-wing message upset her. When asked by the kids why she didn’t like it, she replied, “It was a movie about Barbie made by someone who hates Barbie.”

I didn’t see it that way, but perhaps that’s because Barbie doesn’t mean anything to me. If they make a movie about transgender G.I. Joe and how the bad guy COBRAs are trying to prevent people from becoming their “true selves,” I might have a different reaction.

As far as the movie goes overall, I see no reason to tell people to keep children away from it. Of course it is liberal. Of course it makes clumsy efforts at propagandizing. But so what? So does almost everything in the entertainment business.

You can’t take kids to see a movie about the horrors of human trafficking — and why would you? Culture happens around and to you, whether you participate in it or not. Pretending you can close your eyes and make it go away, like the end of “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” isn’t realistic.

Participate, and then educate afterward, or at least be aware. Pretending something doesn’t exist doesn’t make it disappear. Take responsibility for strengthening your values in your children. Use moments like “Barbie” as an opportunity to explain. Otherwise, we will just continue to lose.

https://thehill.com/opinion/education/4131056-barbie-and-why-conservat
ives-keep-losing-the-culture-war
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Wednesday, August 2, 2023 4:28 PM

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You can’t take kids to see a movie about the horrors of human trafficking — and why would you? Culture happens around and to you, whether you participate in it or not. Pretending you can close your eyes and make it go away, like the end of “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” isn’t realistic.

Participate, and then educate afterward, or at least be aware. Pretending something doesn’t exist doesn’t make it disappear. Take responsibility for strengthening your values in your children. Use moments like “Barbie” as an opportunity to explain. Otherwise, we will just continue to lose.



Nobody's closing their eyes, dipshit. The eyes are open.

InBev, Target and Disney are getting destroyed in 2023. If you don't want to be a part of that, don't be surprised when your youngest you're so happy you didn't have to pay a ticket for tells you and your wife that she's a boy.

Or worse, one of those illegals the Dems let into your city kidnap her and do the things to her that Democrats and the bad guys in Sound of Freedom would love to do to your kids.

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There was, of course, the left-wing whining about “the patriarchy” that many right-leaning reviewers have noted. Fortunately, young kids do not know what any of that is, and they are also smart enough not to wonder or ask about it. The Barbie World, to them, is about Barbie.



And just what the fuck does that mean, dude?

You obviously give no respect to the intelligence of children, and if you think that "not wondering or asking questions" about things is "smart" behavior by a child, then let me just tell you now that your daughter's are not destined for a career in STEM and you might as well just buy them THOT Daughter's First Webcam setup because they've got a long career ahead of them on OnlyFans taking money for calling a bunch of rando weirdo dudes online who aren't you Daddy... That is, assuming that you're not filling them up with junk food and making them look like thumbs by the time they get into high school where they're going to be bullied mercilessly for being fat and end up hating the world and everyone who lives in it by graduation.

Learn how to parent before giving any advice to other people on parenting. You're shit at it.

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Wednesday, August 2, 2023 4:43 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html



The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.


Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days

More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.


Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.

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Thursday, August 3, 2023 8:07 PM

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‘Barbie,’ and why conservatives keep losing the culture war

by Derek Hunter, a former staffer for Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.)

I’m not proud of the fact that I’ve seen the Barbie movie, but I’ve seen the Barbie movie.

I have two daughters, ages six and four. They wanted to see “Barbie” because, well…Barbie. I was hoping they’d forget about it long enough for it to come onto cable and spare me the humiliation, but no such luck.

That left me with the prospect of disappointing my children or sucking it up and going to see what I was reasonably certain, based on reviews, would be two hours of obnoxious left-wing indoctrination. Naturally, I chose the latter.

If I was going to be forced to watch this, I was going to do it on my terms. I live in a rural area that turns out to have several drive-in theaters within reasonable distance, and Barbie was playing at almost all of them. So we loaded up the family trickster and set out for the drive-in.

It was some comfort that the tickets were only $10, as opposed to the usual $25 and up (depending on which theater you go to), and an added bonus that the youngest got in free. If Hollywood is going to get my money for this, I thought, I’ll make it as little as possible.

We got there and got set up. I don’t know when you last went to the drive-in, but you should see if there are any near you, because the experience was fun. I’d gone a lot growing up — our house was 2 miles from a drive-in — and it was always a blast, even when the movies left something to be desired. I wanted my kids to experience it at least once. (As it turns out, they loved it too, so we will likely return.)

After setting up our chairs and raiding the concession, we turned on the portable radio and tuned to the correct FM station as the movie started.

My eyes were ready to roll.

Only they didn’t.

The movie was no masterpiece, but I found it to be good. Margot Robbie is an excellent actress and easy on ready-to-roll eyes. Ryan Gosling was actually hilarious as Ken. I’m not a laugh-out-loud kind of guy — a chuckle is the most you’ll usually get from me — but this movie made me laugh out loud more than once. My girls were all-in from the start, laughing at goofy things and loving the clothes and life-size dream houses.

There was, of course, the left-wing whining about “the patriarchy” that many right-leaning reviewers have noted. Fortunately, young kids do not know what any of that is, and they are also smart enough not to wonder or ask about it. The Barbie World, to them, is about Barbie.

The only question I got was from my six-year-old, about the one obvious obscenity that the movie bleeps out for comedic effect. (There is no swearing in the movie.) She didn’t like that. She does not like “bad words,” even if she had no idea which bad word it was or what it was about.

And that was it. The plot of the movie didn’t matter — it never does to young kids. Teens might understand it and need a little discussion afterward.

The only person who didn’t enjoy the experience was my wife. She grew up with Barbie as, I imagine, most women today have. The movie’s left-wing message upset her. When asked by the kids why she didn’t like it, she replied, “It was a movie about Barbie made by someone who hates Barbie.”

I didn’t see it that way, but perhaps that’s because Barbie doesn’t mean anything to me. If they make a movie about transgender G.I. Joe and how the bad guy COBRAs are trying to prevent people from becoming their “true selves,” I might have a different reaction.

As far as the movie goes overall, I see no reason to tell people to keep children away from it. Of course it is liberal. Of course it makes clumsy efforts at propagandizing. But so what? So does almost everything in the entertainment business.

You can’t take kids to see a movie about the horrors of human trafficking — and why would you? Culture happens around and to you, whether you participate in it or not. Pretending you can close your eyes and make it go away, like the end of “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” isn’t realistic.

Participate, and then educate afterward, or at least be aware. Pretending something doesn’t exist doesn’t make it disappear. Take responsibility for strengthening your values in your children. Use moments like “Barbie” as an opportunity to explain. Otherwise, we will just continue to lose.

https://thehill.com/opinion/education/4131056-barbie-and-why-conservat
ives-keep-losing-the-culture-war
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Well, at least he pointed out that his wife is the one who wears the pants in the family. I would have loved to have seen her elaboration on this point of view. What sort of Barbie were they expecting to see, if they didn't know it was Greta Gerwig Divorce movie?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted:
‘Barbie,’ and why conservatives keep losing the culture war

The only person who didn’t enjoy the experience was my wife. She grew up with Barbie as, I imagine, most women today have. The movie’s left-wing message upset her. When asked by the kids why she didn’t like it, she replied, “It was a movie about Barbie made by someone who hates Barbie.”

Well, at least he pointed out that his wife is the one who wears the pants in the family. I would have loved to have seen her elaboration on this point of view. What sort of Barbie were they expecting to see, if they didn't know it was Greta Gerwig Divorce movie?

Apparently Greta Gerwig the writer/director of Barbie knows what sells tickets:

Top 2023 Movies at the Worldwide Box Office

Rank Movie Worldwide Box Office
1 The Super Mario Bros. Movie $1,356,699,911
2 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 $845,303,497
3 Barbie $816,822,894
4 Fast X $719,379,825

https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cu
mulative/released-in-2023


Movie Comparison: Barbie (2023) vs. The Super Mario Bros. Movie (2023)
shows that Barbie could surpass the #1 movie Super Mario Bros.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Barbie-(2023)/Su
per-Mario-Bros-Movie-The-(2022)#tab=day_by_day_comparison


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Friday, August 4, 2023 3:12 AM

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The man-hating harpy finally cracked the code and figured out how to get normies to pay for their brainwashing.

Good for her. Fuck those kids up, groomer.

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‘Oppenheimer’ depicts a man becoming powerful—and irrelevant
https://thebulletin.org/2023/08/oppenheimer-depicts-a-man-becoming-pow
erful-and-irrelevant
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Oppenheimer did not have the temperament and skills to confront the US political and military leadership

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The man-hating harpy finally cracked the code and figured out how to get normies to pay for their brainwashing.

Good for her. Fuck those kids up, groomer.

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Trump has always connected his claims of pervasive electoral fraud to the widespread anxiety among white, Christian conservatives that they are losing control of the country and especially movies to a racially diverse, secular, and LGBTQ-friendly Democratic coalition centered in the nation’s largest cities. As Trump put it during one 2020 rally before a predominantly white, rural audience in Georgia: “This is our country. (And our movies.) And you know this, and you see it, but they are trying to take it from us through rigging, fraud, deception, and deceit.” Voters who accept that argument will remain the most powerful force in the GOP coalition. And they will continue to demand leaders who will fight the changes that they believe threaten their position in American society. A majoritarian democracy cannot be tolerated under any circumstances if the outcome is not what they want it to be, including at the movies.

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Friday, August 4, 2023 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The man-hating harpy finally cracked the code and figured out how to get normies to pay for their brainwashing.

Good for her. Fuck those kids up, groomer.

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Trump has always connected his claims of pervasive electoral fraud to the widespread anxiety among white, Christian conservatives that they are losing control of the country and especially movies to a racially diverse, secular, and LGBTQ-friendly Democratic coalition centered in the nation’s largest cities. As Trump put it during one 2020 rally before a predominantly white, rural audience in Georgia: “This is our country. (And our movies.) And you know this, and you see it, but they are trying to take it from us through rigging, fraud, deception, and deceit.” Voters who accept that argument will remain the most powerful force in the GOP coalition. And they will continue to demand leaders who will fight the changes that they believe threaten their position in American society. A majoritarian democracy cannot be tolerated under any circumstances if the outcome is not what they want it to be, including at the movies.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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What?

You think that copying stories behind a paywall at the Atlantic is going to keep me from knowing you copied stories and blasted them out here as your own?

Quote:

Trump may constitute a unique threat to America’s democratic traditions. But he has always connected his claims of pervasive electoral fraud to the widespread anxiety among white, Christian conservatives that they are losing control of the country to a racially diverse, secular, and LGBTQ-friendly Democratic coalition centered in the nation’s largest cities. As Trump put it during one 2020 rally before a predominantly white, rural audience in Georgia: “This is our country. And you know this, and you see it, but they are trying to take it from us through rigging, fraud, deception, and deceit.” Whether Trump is convicted for trying to overturn the 2020 election or not, voters who accept that argument will remain the most powerful force in the GOP coalition. And they will continue to demand leaders who will fight the changes that they believe threaten their position in American society.

Those other Republican leaders may not attempt to overturn an election as brazenly as Trump did with the conduct Smith catalogs in his indictment. But, as Wilentz told me, for the foreseeable future, they are likely to pursue other means “toward the same end: that majoritarian democracy cannot be tolerated under any circumstances if the outcome is not what you wanted it to be.”



https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/donald-trump-indictm
ent-gop-jan-6/674895
/

Full text without a paywall found here: https://syfeed.com/en-us/news-details/trumps-threat-to-democracy-is-no
w-systemic_79784080.html


Your problem here, Second, is that you are a very stupid person with less than mediocre writing ability. Try to hide it any way you'd like, but it's very easy to spot when you're ripping off other people's fiction.

I'm sure you've got a little bit of Kevin Drum in there to fill in the spots that weren't in the article, but I'm not trolling that fat useless fuck's board of lies to find it.

Get fucked, you unoriginal, brain dead retard.

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Friday, August 4, 2023 11:15 AM

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And besides...

What can you do about it? People want to watch shit, they're going to watch shit. Barbie is an objectively average movie. Disney forced people into watching something, anything, that was different than the crap they've been spewing out for the last 4 years.

It looks like Kevin Feige finally got the memo, as it sounds like he plans on rebooting the MCU that nobody is watching anymore.

I don't know about making Fantastic 4's Sue Storm the center of your new universe though, Kevin. You might want to mull that one over a bit more. Are you absolutely sure you want to make Sue Storm your new Captain Marvel when nobody has ever figured out how to put out a Fantastic 4 movie that anybody cares about?


And don't believe all the hype coming from the haters. It's not just the horrible stories you're telling that were penned by awful writers and filmed by inexperienced directors with an agenda that are turning people away. People ARE sick of super hero movies as well.

My advice would be to let the genre go the way of the Western and spend whatever little time and resources you have left to figure out a new way to make money before the only option you have left is selling all of your possessions at an auction and getting a job at WalMart.



EDITED TO ADD:

Vanessa Kirby, though easy on the eyes, is already 35 years old. Are you sure that you want to make a 35 year old woman the center of your rebooted Marvel Universe as well?

Jessica Alba who was 10 times as easy on the eyes (as almost anybody else ever was) was only 24 when the first FF4 movie she starred in was released, and was also the definition of a household name at the time.

Even Kate Mara, a solid 6/10 was 32 when her FF4 movie came out.



Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark, the center of the MCU that people watched, did that role for 11 years. Vanessa Kirby is going to be 46 years old 11 years from now, and possibly 48 years old if it takes two years to put out the first new movie and it goes another 11 years. You'd better hope she ages like Jennifer Connolly or Kate Beckinsale.

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How well did Oppenheimer capture the U.S. decision to drop the bomb?

Here’s the funny thing about the decision to drop the bomb: there was no decision. What do I mean by that? It’s not like a bunch of men sat in a room and they said, “Are we going to drop the bomb or not?” That’s not the way it worked. There was a huge amount of momentum to drop that bomb no matter what. [The U.S.] spent $2 billion on it. In Oppenheimer’s case, he was torn because he worked so hard on it, [and] wanted to know that we could do it. There’s pride involved. There’s ambition. The movie captures that. But it’s not like they’re sitting in a room debating whether to do this. They’re going to do it. There’s a glancing impression that we could have gotten away with not dropping these bombs. That’s not true.

How did the U.S. go from dropping the atomic bombs to calling Japan one of its biggest allies?

The great thing about this country—and it’s not true of every country—is that we are magnanimous in victory. We wanted to create a strong and democratic Japan and working with the Japanese, we succeeded. It was messy. We helped them jumpstart their own economy, and they became our ally pretty quickly against Soviet communism. I’m not saying this was a perfect process. But, by and large, as conquests go, the American conquest of Japan was magnanimous and constructive.

https://time.com/6297240/atomic-bomb-expert-oppenheimer-interview/

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Sunday, August 6, 2023 3:22 PM

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'Barbie' has now grossed $1 billion world wide, 'Indy 5' has not.

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'Barbie' has now grossed $1 billion world wide, 'Indy 5' has not.



Yeah. Mentioned that in the SoF thread a few hours ago. It put up the international numbers I predicted... a little on the low-to-middle end of my predictions. I was thinking more like $128 Million, but it was only $118 Million.

Probably should have put it here.


Glad I didn't call this the Barbie Failure Thread, or I'd be eating a ton of crow right now.

Billion dollars or not, it still looks objectively awful though.





Indy 5? LOL. Can that even make $400 Million at this point? I doubt it.

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A New, Chilling Secret About the Manhattan Project Has Just Been Made Public

Turns out Oppenheimer’s boss lied, repeatedly, about radiation poisoning.

By Fred Kaplan, Aug 08, 2023 3:17 PM

Oppenheimer, director of the Los Alamos lab where the bomb was first tested, kept mum about General Groves’ lie. Groves said radiation had caused no deaths and that claims to the contrary were “propaganda.”

Groves discounted, downplayed, then denied the reports about radiation sickness because the American public would rebel against nuclear weapons if they were seen as something like poison gas—and thus beyond a moral threshold.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/oppenheimer-manhattan-proj
ect-radiation-atomic-bomb-declassified.html


The US exploded hundreds of test nukes inside the US, spreading fallout everywhere, because Oppenheimer was too cowardly to confront the Generals' lies when Oppenheimer could have stopped the tests by telling the public what was happening. He would have lost his security clearance, but he lost it anyway for petty reasons and had nothing to show for the loss.

Radioactive fallout was responsible for 340,000 to 690,000 American deaths from 1951 to 1973. Thank you Robert Oppenheimer for your brave refusal to tell anybody. Somebody should make a movie about your tragic struggles with your conscience. (His conscience lost but Oppenheimer became rich and famous, which eased his suffering. In time he killed himself with tobacco, but nicotine made him feel so much better about what he had done to others.)

https://qz.com/1163140/us-nuclear-tests-killed-american-civilians-on-a
-scale-comparable-to-hiroshima-and-nagasaki


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I don't think you know how nicotine works.

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I don't think you know how nicotine works.

I would not know any more than about any of the numerous addictive habits you have, retard 6ix. You and Oppenheimer are the kind of people who won't think ahead about the consequences of your decisions. He ended up dying early with a slew of deaths on his conscience while you threw away decades of life.

Oppenheimer's nuclear fallout: How his atomic legacy destroyed my world
Mary Dickson, Aug. 4, 2023

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2023/08/04/oppenheimer-a
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I don't think you know how nicotine works.

I would not know any more than about any of the numerous addictive habits you have, retard 6ix.



Care to rephrase this, or do we just add English to the pile of things that we've established aren't in your wheelhouse?



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'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html



The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.


Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days

More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.


Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.

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I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week


Oppenheimer, as I said, will never make a billion. But the $581 Million it's sitting at is still pretty impressive given its $100 Million budget. They can't be unhappy with these results.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html

The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.

Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days

More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.

Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.

I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week


20 days? You mean from Wed 19 July to Monday 7 August?
I'm glad you noticed Barbie did not make $Billion until Monday.

I found it amusing on Monday watching Warner scrambling to justify their Fake Claim of $1B by Sunday, when they knew they didn't have prove, like the receipts.

On Sunday, when they were making their Fake claims, they had $406,381,413 from before Friday, plus "projections" of 53M for the weekend, with 17M Friday, 20M Saturday, and 16M on Sunday.
Even though they must have known by that time that they were half Million short on Friday night, and likely also knew the same for Saturday night - they still used this 459,381,413 figure as their Domestic Total for Sunday, 6 August.

For several days, they had had $422M -something listed for their International total.
But on Sunday, without any new country report updates (besides Croatia), they suddenly came up with $531,000,000 for international. Yes, that is right, the grand total for all of the other nations outside USA & Canada ended up with 6 zeroes at the end of the figure, with no discernible location of increase.
Nothing fishy here, folks, this is not the hovercraft you are looking for, never mind the man behind the curtain.
This conveniently totaled $1,000,381,413 Worldwide - without any extra Million to spare.

And that was how the figures were listed on Sunday night.
On Monday, the scrambling began. Most weekdays, Barbie's figures are some of the first to be posted, often by 10am my time (Central). Not this Monday.
Because they knew that they were $1M short on their Friday & Saturday projections, they could not post that they only made $52m for the weekend - that would drop them below $1B total.
Sometime before noon they changed their "projections" for the weekend, from 17, 20, and 16 to new projections of 16.5M Fri, 19.5M Sat, and suddenly 17M Sunday. This still added to $53M for the 3 days, so they bought a little time, until they could admit that their Sunday was likely short.
In order to buy some breathing room for their Fake $1B claim, late in the day they were able to add in some International numbers that they did not have receipts for on Sunday. These nations Box Office reports were dated 7 August - NOT 6 AUGUST - but added about $31M to the total (from 3 listed updated nations, just new numbers from less that a week), and thus gave them some breathing room to admit to the less-than projected numbers from the weekend.
They finally admitted (I think after 5 on Monday) to $16,543,731 on Friday, $19,476,666 on Saturday (still short of the reduced estimate of 19.5 - and only 20K above the reduced Fri/Sat combined estimate of $36M), and then $16,988,250 for Sunday (also short of their revised estimate of $17M). For a total of $53,008,647 for the weekend. If that Sunday figure is an honest number, then that gives them the $53M that they needed from the weekend to claim $1B - as long as nobody questions the international figure with 6 zeroes at the end, and no proven receipts to support it.

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The Audience Is Losing Its Ability To Watch and Reflect on What They See Onscreen

When Oppenheimer meets with military officers and government officials to decide the targets of the bombings, US Secretary of War Henry Stimson (James Remar) mentions that they shouldn't bomb Kyoto, because that's where he and his wife went on their honeymoon. The line creates an intense awkwardness in the room for many reasons, as well as carries a shocking effect on part of the audience. That's symptomatic of many things in our current era of movie-going, so let's dig into it.

The line itself is indeed shocking, and it's supposed to be. Recently, Oppenheimer writer and director Christopher Nolan revealed that it was improvised by James Remar, who did his own research on the character and found out that Stimson and his wife had indeed honeymooned in Kyoto.

Remar’s work as Secretary Stimson shows how important it is to know and understand a character before playing them. Stimson is a small role, with seconds of screen time in a movie that's three hours long, but has one of the most shocking lines in the whole thing.

So shocking, in fact, that the other actors in the scene didn't know how to react. Originally, the script mentioned Kyoto was to be removed from the bombing list for its cultural significance, but Remar delivers the honeymoon line so casually, it left the rest of the cast speechless. How do you respond to something like that? The movie provides an insightful reflection into the nature of power at the dawn of the nuclear age, and Stimson makes it clear that this kind of destructive power is to be wielded by people who seem to have completely lost touch with their humanity. Only that's not just him, it seems like part of the audience did too.

Stimson sparing Kyoto from destruction because of his honeymoon is a perfect example of how this kind of decision is taken by individuals who aren't really the best people to take them. As decorated as he might have been, he narrowed down the cities that would be destroyed because of his own personal memories, and that's no way to ponder the death of hundreds of thousands of people. It takes power to think of this as trivial, and, usually, those who have it are the least fit to wield it.

His perspective is symptomatic of a worldview that puts his own country so above the rest of the world, he's allowed (and maybe even encouraged) to take decisions that can ultimately kill that many people so casually, especially when it comes to the US military and the idea of American exceptionalism. It sure is nice to see someone who loves their country (and yours truly sure loves his, for example), but when one sees oneself that far above, one often loses touch with what it means to kill, for example. Oppenheimer makes it clear that, after Hitler's suicide, Japan's capitulation was a matter of time and the scientists even start to question whether they should continue their research. But they aren't really the people with power; they do have knowledge, but, contrary to popular belief, those two sometimes aren't the same thing. The military has power and sees its country as so above the rest, the world is literally a playground for people like Stimson to take decisions based on personal memories. But how do you weigh someone's life against a show of power?

We don't have to go far to question that and conclude that, ultimately, we have succumbed to this nationalistic way of looking at the world that people like Stimson helped consolidate in favor of the dominant power. All it takes is going to the movies. Hollywood has a long history of struggling with depicting and talking about the nuclear bombings in World War II, it rarely produces movies that openly criticize it like Oppenheimer does. That's why, for example, it's being compared to Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove, because it's the closest reference most people have. When Hollywood manages to use this as inspiration for tragic stories, it needs to build a visual spectacle to go along with it, like in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, and it often makes people completely miss the point of the whole thing.

But even Japanese works on the subject have been incorporated and twisted, or simply downplayed. Grave of the Fireflies, for example, is one of Studio Ghibli's masterpieces, but it's bothersome to think about it when they have so many other heartwarming movies. Even more graphic approaches, like Godzilla (in which the metaphor is pretty clear as the monster being the bomb), have been turned into Hollywood blockbusters, with the Japanese side of it relegated to "the crazy old scientist" who's been traumatized by the monster as Ken Watanabe is in the latest Universal movies.

Oppenheimer is a tragedy that requires a lot of afterthought.

Nowadays, people go to the movies with two things in mind: either to be entertained by impactful imagery or to see what they think to be a reflection of themselves on the screen. Barbie sure provides both, and it's a brilliant movie filled with insightful criticism that some are also failing to see, while Oppenheimer is the opposite. It's a long and dense movie that takes its time and relies solely on dialogue to move forward, making lines like Stimson's extremely important. It's interesting to see people talk about how Oppenheimer doesn't show the actual bombings, for example, but then they don't talk about Stimson's line, because it's what makes it pretty explicit that the movie is criticizing the deed and how the decision was taken based solely on the power it would grant his country afterward.

Dialogue doesn't impact people anymore unless it's meant to create impactful imagery. As Stimson's line doesn't, the audience fails to read what it implies, and it shows how uninterested people are in interpreting what's shown and said on screen. This is indicative of a culture that doesn’t know how to react or even identify proper criticism because people have been so desensitized, they actually lost their ability to feel impacted by words. Who knows, there probably are people who found Stimson's line cute instead of shocking.

https://collider.com/oppenheimer-improvised-line-kyoto/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, August 13, 2023 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html

The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.

Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days

More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.

Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.

I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week


20 days? You mean from Wed 19 July to Monday 7 August?
I'm glad you noticed Barbie did not make $Billion until Monday.

I found it amusing on Monday watching Warner scrambling to justify their Fake Claim of $1B by Sunday, when they knew they didn't have prove, like the receipts.

On Sunday, when they were making their Fake claims, they had $406,381,413 from before Friday, plus "projections" of 53M for the weekend, with 17M Friday, 20M Saturday, and 16M on Sunday.
Even though they must have known by that time that they were half Million short on Friday night, and likely also knew the same for Saturday night - they still used this 459,381,413 figure as their Domestic Total for Sunday, 6 August.

For several days, they had had $422M -something listed for their International total.
But on Sunday, without any new country report updates (besides Croatia), they suddenly came up with $531,000,000 for international. Yes, that is right, the grand total for all of the other nations outside USA & Canada ended up with 6 zeroes at the end of the figure, with no discernible location of increase.
Nothing fishy here, folks, this is not the hovercraft you are looking for, never mind the man behind the curtain.
This conveniently totaled $1,000,381,413 Worldwide - without any extra Million to spare.

And that was how the figures were listed on Sunday night.
On Monday, the scrambling began. Most weekdays, Barbie's figures are some of the first to be posted, often by 10am my time (Central). Not this Monday.
Because they knew that they were $1M short on their Friday & Saturday projections, they could not post that they only made $52m for the weekend - that would drop them below $1B total.
Sometime before noon they changed their "projections" for the weekend, from 17, 20, and 16 to new projections of 16.5M Fri, 19.5M Sat, and suddenly 17M Sunday. This still added to $53M for the 3 days, so they bought a little time, until they could admit that their Sunday was likely short.
In order to buy some breathing room for their Fake $1B claim, late in the day they were able to add in some International numbers that they did not have receipts for on Sunday. These nations Box Office reports were dated 7 August - NOT 6 AUGUST - but added about $31M to the total (from 3 listed updated nations, just new numbers from less that a week), and thus gave them some breathing room to admit to the less-than projected numbers from the weekend.
They finally admitted (I think after 5 on Monday) to $16,543,731 on Friday, $19,476,666 on Saturday (still short of the reduced estimate of 19.5 - and only 20K above the reduced Fri/Sat combined estimate of $36M), and then $16,988,250 for Sunday (also short of their revised estimate of $17M). For a total of $53,008,647 for the weekend. If that Sunday figure is an honest number, then that gives them the $53M that they needed from the weekend to claim $1B - as long as nobody questions the international figure with 6 zeroes at the end, and no proven receipts to support it.




I still don't know if you read this. I'm doubting it after seeing your post here.

From the SoF thread the other night...

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I just noticed that Barbie actually does well on Sat & Sun with International, meaning the summer weekdays do not help as much in other countries. I don't know the cultural customs of cinema elsewhere.



There is insufficient data to make that claim. We haven't seen any updates to international numbers for Barbie since Sunday/Monday, and we don't know how Bruce calculates anything.

If you're referring to the fact that there are countries on the International tab with dates of 8/8, 8/9 and even 8/11 on them, I could see where that could be confusing, but as far as any NEW money being added to the international total there has not been any new money since Sunday's $118 Million and the additional $31 Million that was added on Monday morning. The only gains that Barbie has had since that $31 Million addition to the International total were its Domestic gains from Monday to Thursday.

What I'm assuming here is that not only does Bruce reconcile whatever he can with the previous week on Sunday, but he is also given some new studio projections for the following week from some of the countries outside of the US where it's been shown, similar to how we'll get Saturday/Sunday projections by around noon on Saturday here in the states. However, unlike how the US box office shows the actual numbers fairly quickly after projections are given, the International numbers lag very far behind that and are handled very opaquely. In fact, I'd say that we're in a position where we just have to take Bruce's and the Studios' words on the international numbers altogether because outside of them being posted there's no other actual evidence presented to us that any of those numbers are even real in the first place, and we're never given any explanation about projections and reconciliation.

This would certainly explain all the strangeness I started to notice in many of the top 50 worldwide movies, particularly at the end of their runs. Some weeks a movie will make $3 Million stateside and yet by the end of that week the Worldwide Gross went down $1 Million. Then a month later that same movie makes $200k Domestic and it goes up $6 Million Worldwide.

I now believe that this stuff happens all the time to every movie. Most folk just wouldn't notice it since almost nobody is paying as close attention to any of this as we are doing. Hell... It took me quite a long time to notice it myself, and really it only becomes very obvious when big-budget flicks near the end of their runs. Look through my posts and you'll see me mention this quite a few times about Super Mario Bros and Guardians 3. It even happened with the lower-budget The Bogeyman, with that movie posting some insane gains of around $10 Million one week late into its run when it didn't make much at all here in the states.

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Monday, August 14, 2023 11:49 AM

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New news on Barbie...

I was watching a recent Film Theory video about Disney in general, but when it brought up the insane production budgets of films today and used Oppenheimer and Barbie as examples with smaller production budgets than most of what Disney has put out this year, they mentioned that Barbie's production budget was just less than $150 Million.

This was news to me since I've been operating under the assumption that Barbie had a $100 Million budget, and that's what The-Numbers has said it was since the beginning.

These sites all disagree with that number and agree with each other that Barbie's Production Budget was $145 Million:

https://collider.com/barbie-movie-box-office-budget/
https://www.entrepreneur.com/growing-a-business/barbie-was-a-marketing
-masterpiece-heres-why/456339

https://www.insider.com/how-much-did-barbie-spend-marketing-box-office
-success-explained-2023-7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie_(film)
https://www.gamesradar.com/barbie-marketing-budget-higher-movie-budget/

Not only that, but the studio fully admits to a $150 Million Marketing Budget, that is more than the Production Budget.

When calculating the 2.0x Rule of Thumb, that doubling of the Production Budget is not just for including the Marketing Budget, but the theater takes as well, so Barbie actually had to make at least $350 if not $400 Million to break even using the 2.0x rule of thumb. Not $200 Million.

Now... since the 2.0x and 2.5x rule of thumb are broad generalizations, I feel that even with specific evidence in this case that the movie should be held to a different standard, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to just go on applying the 2.0x Rule of Thumb to Barbie like I would any other movie, but this is another great argument for moving on to the 2.5x rule of thumb instead of using the old 2.0x RoT.

That being said, starting with a $145 Million budget instead of a $100 Million budget does change the percentage number list significantly. I will make the adjustment in the SoF thread where I'm keeping track of all of these numbers and reference this post for the change.

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Monday, August 14, 2023 5:42 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html

The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.

Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days

More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.

Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.

I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week


20 days? You mean from Wed 19 July to Monday 7 August?
I'm glad you noticed Barbie did not make $Billion until Monday.

I found it amusing on Monday watching Warner scrambling to justify their Fake Claim of $1B by Sunday, when they knew they didn't have prove, like the receipts.

On Sunday, when they were making their Fake claims, they had $406,381,413 from before Friday, plus "projections" of 53M for the weekend, with 17M Friday, 20M Saturday, and 16M on Sunday.
Even though they must have known by that time that they were half Million short on Friday night, and likely also knew the same for Saturday night - they still used this 459,381,413 figure as their Domestic Total for Sunday, 6 August.

For several days, they had had $422M -something listed for their International total.
But on Sunday, without any new country report updates (besides Croatia), they suddenly came up with $531,000,000 for international. Yes, that is right, the grand total for all of the other nations outside USA & Canada ended up with 6 zeroes at the end of the figure, with no discernible location of increase.
Nothing fishy here, folks, this is not the hovercraft you are looking for, never mind the man behind the curtain.
This conveniently totaled $1,000,381,413 Worldwide - without any extra Million to spare.

And that was how the figures were listed on Sunday night.
On Monday, the scrambling began. Most weekdays, Barbie's figures are some of the first to be posted, often by 10am my time (Central). Not this Monday.
Because they knew that they were $1M short on their Friday & Saturday projections, they could not post that they only made $52m for the weekend - that would drop them below $1B total.
Sometime before noon they changed their "projections" for the weekend, from 17, 20, and 16 to new projections of 16.5M Fri, 19.5M Sat, and suddenly 17M Sunday. This still added to $53M for the 3 days, so they bought a little time, until they could admit that their Sunday was likely short.
In order to buy some breathing room for their Fake $1B claim, late in the day they were able to add in some International numbers that they did not have receipts for on Sunday. These nations Box Office reports were dated 7 August - NOT 6 AUGUST - but added about $31M to the total (from 3 listed updated nations, just new numbers from less that a week), and thus gave them some breathing room to admit to the less-than projected numbers from the weekend.
They finally admitted (I think after 5 on Monday) to $16,543,731 on Friday, $19,476,666 on Saturday (still short of the reduced estimate of 19.5 - and only 20K above the reduced Fri/Sat combined estimate of $36M), and then $16,988,250 for Sunday (also short of their revised estimate of $17M). For a total of $53,008,647 for the weekend. If that Sunday figure is an honest number, then that gives them the $53M that they needed from the weekend to claim $1B - as long as nobody questions the international figure with 6 zeroes at the end, and no proven receipts to support it.



I still don't know if you read this. I'm doubting it after seeing your post here.

From the SoF thread the other night...
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I just noticed that Barbie actually does well on Sat & Sun with International, meaning the summer weekdays do not help as much in other countries. I don't know the cultural customs of cinema elsewhere.

There is insufficient data to make that claim. We haven't seen any updates to international numbers for Barbie since Sunday/Monday, and we don't know how Bruce calculates anything.

If you're referring to the fact that there are countries on the International tab with dates of 8/8, 8/9 and even 8/11 on them, I could see where that could be confusing, but as far as any NEW money being added to the international total there has not been any new money since Sunday's $118 Million and the additional $31 Million that was added on Monday morning. The only gains that Barbie has had since that $31 Million addition to the International total were its Domestic gains from Monday to Thursday.

What I'm assuming here is that not only does Bruce reconcile whatever he can with the previous week on Sunday, but he is also given some new studio projections for the following week from some of the countries outside of the US where it's been shown, similar to how we'll get Saturday/Sunday projections by around noon on Saturday here in the states. However, unlike how the US box office shows the actual numbers fairly quickly after projections are given, the International numbers lag very far behind that and are handled very opaquely. In fact, I'd say that we're in a position where we just have to take Bruce's and the Studios' words on the international numbers altogether because outside of them being posted there's no other actual evidence presented to us that any of those numbers are even real in the first place, and we're never given any explanation about projections and reconciliation.

This would certainly explain all the strangeness I started to notice in many of the top 50 worldwide movies, particularly at the end of their runs. Some weeks a movie will make $3 Million stateside and yet by the end of that week the Worldwide Gross went down $1 Million. Then a month later that same movie makes $200k Domestic and it goes up $6 Million Worldwide.

I now believe that this stuff happens all the time to every movie. Most folk just wouldn't notice it since almost nobody is paying as close attention to any of this as we are doing. Hell... It took me quite a long time to notice it myself, and really it only becomes very obvious when big-budget flicks near the end of their runs. Look through my posts and you'll see me mention this quite a few times about Super Mario Bros and Guardians 3. It even happened with the lower-budget The Bogeyman, with that movie posting some insane gains of around $10 Million one week late into its run when it didn't make much at all here in the states.
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I responded to your post in the other thread, regarding my mistaken post about Barbie International figures for weekdays/weekends.

However, you may be confused about the post I made above. The fact that they claimed that they had $1B in Box Office, when they did not have the receipts, and then they were also short on their bloated projections for that weekend, is the pertinent point of my post.
My post above still pertains. If you don't understand it, or disagree, you may elaborate.

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Monday, August 14, 2023 5:56 PM

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I responded to your post in the other thread, regarding my mistaken post about Barbie International figures for weekdays/weekends.

However, you may be confused about the post I made above. The fact that they claimed that they had $1B in Box Office, when they did not have the receipts, and then they were also short on their bloated projections for that weekend, is the pertinent point of my post.
My post above still pertains. If you don't understand it, or disagree, you may elaborate.



I think I am confused, maybe?

Like I said, we're pretty much left in the dark on international receipts and accounting, so I'm sure it's really easy to change those around and make it look like a movie hit $1 Billion before it actually does and not fear losing credibility as long as they know for damn sure that it was going to hit $1 Billion within a few days from the stated date.

If you have evidence to the contrary in this case I'd love to hear more. I heard other online outfits claiming it took Barbie 20 days to hit $1 Billion. The only thing that gives me real pause here, and it's not insignificant, is the extra $31 Million added on Monday morning. I'm not saying that Bruce never adds to the international total twice in a week, but I found that pretty strange, especially when it was hovering right around one Billion that weekend... although with the $118 added on Sunday it had already just crossed $1 Billion by a few bucks.


BTW... did you notice my last post? Barbie's production budget was $145 Million and it was confirmed that its marketing budget was even higher than that at $150 Million. Not only does that bring Barbie down quite a bit on our lists, but it also is great evidence that the 2.0 Rule of Thumb is outdated and the 2.5 Rule of Thumb is more accurate in BidenflationLand. If Barbie's production budget and marketing budget combined already equate to $295 Million, than Barbie needed to make a lot more than only $300 Million to break even when theater takes are accounted for.

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Monday, August 14, 2023 6:16 PM

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How much are theater takes?

I keep forgetting to ask - have you been archiving the International Box Office pages of Barbie at The Numbers?


Bruce finally just posted the black numbers for Barbie for F,S,S.

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Monday, August 14, 2023 11:11 PM

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How much are theater takes?



I can't get definitive numbers on that. I've heard 50%. I've heard 40%. I've heard 30%. I've heard that large studios like Disney take the lion's share of the first two weeks in the theaters then only get like 25% on the back end. It also varies wildly from country to country, with China getting a sweetheart deal.

It's just one more reason why the Rule of Thumb is so nebulous.

My guess is that, since we know the Production Budget ballooned to $145 Million and they've come out and said that the marketing was $150 Million (which is surprising because NOBODY ever gives the marketing budget), Barbie needed to make about $375 to $400 Million to break even, and even after that the theaters are taking a much larger dollar amount from the total box office than any other movies this year outside of SMB and to a smaller extent Guardians 3, simply because of how much damn money its making.

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I keep forgetting to ask - have you been archiving the International Box Office pages of Barbie at The Numbers?


No. I haven't. The closest we've got to that is my rounded numbers for Barbie once per week on the weekly lists, or the percentage over budget (which was all rounded to the nearest million to get), and then converting that to a dollar figure and subtracting the domestic share on that given day. It won't give you the exact numbers, but it would be somewhere in the immediate ballpark.

I don't really feel the need to do it since we can't see what is on the other side of the international equation anyhow.


But I really wish I did it when MI7 got something in the area of $275 Million added to its China box office one night only to have it completely removed the very next morning. I hope Tom Cruise didn't see that and celebrate. It bumped MI7 to over $700 Million for one night and then it went right back down to under $500 Million the next morning. That was maybe like 10 days ago or something, and it's still around $200 Million less than it was that one single night on The Numbers.

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Thursday, August 17, 2023 5:32 PM

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Afer 3 weeks in theaters, Algeria is the latest to Ban Barbie, mostly due to the GAY and Woke parts.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2023/08/15/barbie-banned-in-alge
ria-heres-where-else-you-cant-see-the-box-office-hit/?sh=724ef1d565b9


https://www.nme.com/news/film/heres-every-country-barbie-banned-348344
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https://www.axios.com/2023/08/16/barbie-movie-banned-in-what-countries

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/all-the-countries-that-
have-banned-the-barbie-movie/ar-AA1fp7HX


Uncle Walt would be so proud.



Fuck Uncle Walt, this flick was made by Warner Brothers. All of the flick that have been made at Uncle Walt's old company have been flops. I'm not going to ever see 'Barbie' BUT, I'm glad it turned 'Indy 5' into a bucket of goo.

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Thursday, August 17, 2023 6:41 PM

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Yeah. Not all things woke are Disney. Not even hardly.

Sadly, they're not all failures either.

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Saturday, August 19, 2023 4:22 PM

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Yeah. Not all things woke are Disney. Not even hardly.

Sadly, they're not all failures either.

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My bad.

I has become so difficult to see a difference between WokeSayGay Disney films and WokeSayGay Warner films.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 7:18 PM

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Barbie International figures bounced around again.

Still nonsense is the China numbers - the screens and engagements make no sense here at all.

China reduced it's figure from the report a few days ago. So the total International figure lowered by the same amount.
Estonia was added to the roster.

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Friday, September 1, 2023 12:30 PM

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Barbie International figures bounced around again.



Expect that to go on for MONTHS.

Ever since Super Mario Bros. dropped so low that it couldn't make a 1% bump in a day, the international numbers have gone up and down as much as 4 times in a week. Just last week sometime it had fallen to 1,356% or so, which would have been low enough to require $1 Million less from SoF to beat it, but I believe it's back up to 1,359% again right now.

Guardians of the Galaxy had several weeks in a row where it lost money for the worldwide total even though it was still pulling in Domestic numbers. Then one week it gained $1 or $2 Million. Hell... the most dramatic I saw was a week where The Boogeyman pulled in $10 Million even though in the US it had only made $1 to $2 Million... something that wouldn't be as noticeable with a movie making hundreds of millions in the theater, but was pretty easy to spot on a $35 Million Budget flick with somewhere in the area of $80 Million in Box Office receipts.

I'll bet this isn't a new phenomena. We just didn't know about it because we weren't paying attention like we are right now.

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Still nonsense is the China numbers - the screens and engagements make no sense here at all.

China reduced it's figure from the report a few days ago. So the total International figure lowered by the same amount.



Yeah... They have a TON of screens. I was only half-joking when I was talking about Sound of Freedom being played on the backs of barns in South Africa, because that's probably what they do in China. I'm sure they have something resembling actual movie theaters that we have here, but there's no way there's like 43,000+ screens in China that are in actual buildings. (I see there are only 27,000+ of them used for Barbie, but I've seen as high as 43k).

Who knows how they show movies out there?

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Estonia was added to the roster.



Not sure what you mean by that. The-Numbers said it opened in Estonia on 07/21.

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Friday, September 1, 2023 12:32 PM

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This is terrifying and hilarious at the same time.



And it's self aware...? "This is what you guys call music? Well I'll be damned."

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Friday, September 1, 2023 2:48 PM

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This is terrifying and hilarious at the same time.



And it's self aware...? "This is what you guys call music? Well I'll be damned."

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This is why the SAG went on strike.

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Friday, September 1, 2023 3:32 PM

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Yup. One of the reasons.

The woke diversity hire writers that took over in full force in 2016 are easily replaced by AI.

That program straight up sounds just like Johnny Cash, singing a song that he never would have sung in a million years.

None of these people who are currently being theatened by AI gave one single shit about both blue and white collar workers who've lost their jobs to computers, robots and outsourcing in the last 20 years.

Fuck them. I'm looking forward to seeing how much better entertainment gets after AI replaces them. It can't get any worse.

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Thursday, October 5, 2023 11:15 AM

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Glad cinema is back making money

I'm still kinda shocked these were some of the biggest movies of the year

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Thursday, October 5, 2023 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Glad cinema is back making money

I'm still kinda shocked these were some of the biggest movies of the year



Yeah. I'm never going to understand the whole Barbieheimer thing. It almost seemed like a psyop.


I'm not sure they're "back making money" though.

If you're Universal, A24 or Angel Studios, you're probably pretty thrilled with how 2023 went.

If you're SONY, you're probably disappointed, but still happy that it didn't go as bad as it could have.

If you're Warner Bros., you're breathing a sigh of relief that you had Barbie, Evil Dead Rise and The Nun II this year to offset all three of your Superhero movie flops and still come out making money.

If you're United Artists, you're glad you only made Creed III and it did well.

If you're Walt Disney, Paramount Pictures, Focus Features, Lionsgate, 20th Century Studios, Amazon Pictures or MGM, you're currently figuring out who you're going to lay off.

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Thursday, November 9, 2023 6:12 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


After 110 days in the movie theaters, the Pirates finally have a good copy of Oppenheimer:

https://yts.mx/movies/oppenheimer-2023

Barbie was pirated two months ago:

https://yts.mx/movies/barbie-2023

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 9, 2023 10:39 AM

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Oppenheimer’s Digital Release Finally Revealed After A Long Theatrical Run

https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicamercuri/2023/10/17/oppenheimers-dig
ital-release-finally-revealed-after-a-long-theatrical-run/?sh=177b388856c1


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Four months after its theatrical premiere on July 21, Oppenheimer has finally set a digital release date for November 21, 2023.


That's an illegally leaked copy. Part of Nolan's contract is that the movie would have a 120 day theatrical run before it was released for online purchase or on BluRay/DVD.

You can preorder on Amazon or at the official movie site here:

https://www.oppenheimermovie.com/

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Thursday, November 9, 2023 11:09 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Part of Nolan's contract is that the movie would have a 120 day theatrical run before it was released for online purchase or on BluRay/DVD.

The other part of Nolan's contract requires him to ignore that Oppenheimer killed more American children than Japanese children. It is kind of an inconvenient fact that Oppenheimer could have gone to the newspapers and told them that atmospheric tests of bombs release radiation. Oppie would have lost his top-secret security clearance, but he would have saved many lives. He decided not to go to the press and it was not at all ironic that he still lost his security clearance.

U.S. Nuclear Test Killed Far More Civilians Than We Knew

Hundreds of thousands of civilians were poisoned by irradiated milk, raising the previously estimated toll by a huge factor.

December 21, 2017

When the U.S. entered the nuclear age, it did so recklessly. New research suggests that the hidden cost of developing nuclear weapons were far larger than previous estimates, with radioactive fallout responsible for 340,000 to 690,000 American deaths from 1951 to 1973.

The study, performed by University of Arizona economist Keith Meyers , uses a novel method (pdf) to trace the deadly effects of this radiation, which was often consumed by Americans drinking milk far from the site of atomic tests.

From 1951 to 1963, the U.S. tested nuclear weapons above ground in Nevada. Weapons researchers, not understanding the risks—or simply ignoring them—exposed thousands of workers to radioactive fallout. The emissions from nuclear reactions are deadly to humans in high doses, and can cause cancer even in low doses. At one point, researchers had volunteers stand underneath an airburst nuclear weapon to prove how safe it was : Oppenheimer knew this was bullshit but he kept quiet about the real deaths that were inevitable because he wanted to remain in his powerful government position.

The emissions, however, did not just stay at the test site, and drifted in the atmosphere. Cancer rates spiked in nearby communities, and the US government could no longer pretend that fallout was anything but a silent killer.

https://www.govexec.com/technology/2017/12/us-nuclear-test-killed-far-
more-civilians-then-we-knew/144762
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 9, 2023 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Part of Nolan's contract is that the movie would have a 120 day theatrical run before it was released for online purchase or on BluRay/DVD.

The other part of Nolan's contract requires him to ignore that Oppenheimer killed more American children than Japanese children.



Oh fuck off dude.

We get it. You're a pirate.

ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!



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Thursday, November 9, 2023 11:33 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Part of Nolan's contract is that the movie would have a 120 day theatrical run before it was released for online purchase or on BluRay/DVD.

The other part of Nolan's contract requires him to ignore that Oppenheimer killed more American children than Japanese children.



Oh fuck off dude.

We get it. You're a pirate.

ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

I guess you didn't understand that Oppenheimer had a guilty conscience for nuking Japanese women and children, despite that being the entire movie, but Oppie didn't feel enough guilt to tell the US newspapers that above-ground bomb tests would kill American women and children.

I didn't pirate this movie, but 6ixStringJack is too stupid to understand that. Oppie actually was there when the A-bombs were designed, built, and tested. He and all the other people who knew what was being built were guilty of mass murder, in two nations, Japan and the USA. (I never heard any of the thousands knowledgeably involved who admitted to what they actually did, other than Oppie. Kudos to him.) I was nowhere near the pirates who copied the movie, compressed/transcoded the movie, and delivered it. I am not guilty of piracy.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 9, 2023 11:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Part of Nolan's contract is that the movie would have a 120 day theatrical run before it was released for online purchase or on BluRay/DVD.

The other part of Nolan's contract requires him to ignore that Oppenheimer killed more American children than Japanese children.



Oh fuck off dude.

We get it. You're a pirate.

ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

I guess you didn't understand that Oppenheimer had a guilty conscience for nuking Japanese women and children, despite that being the entire movie, but Oppie didn't feel enough guilt to tell the US newspapers that above-ground bomb tests would kill American women and children.


I don't care. I didn't see the movie. I probably won't see the movie. I've seen possibly only one movie on the list of movies I've been tracking in 2023.

Quote:

I didn't pirate this movie, but 6ixStringJack is too stupid to understand that.


You pirate everything from books to movies to even Firefly comic books and litter Haken's site with illegal downloads. Why would anyone assume you didn't pirate this?

Quote:

Oppie actually was there when the A-bombs were designed, built, and tested. He and all the other people who knew what was being built were guilty of mass murder, in two nations, Japan and the USA. (I never heard any of the thousands knowledgeably involved who admitted to what they actually did, other than Oppie. Kudos to him.) I was nowhere near the pirates who copied the movie, compressed/transcoded the movie, and delivered it. I am not guilty of piracy.


You don't need to be the person who rips and uploads something to be a pirate. Downloading a pirated movie, book or comic book is piracy. Simply posting links to illegal downloads of others' intellectual property is piracy.

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Online piracy or software piracy is the practice of downloading and distributing copyrighted works digitally without permission, such as music or software.


Now I'm not sitting at your house watching you actually download anything you've posted here, so nobody here could testify in court that you have actually downloaded anything. But simply by posting links to the downloads you are engaged in distribution of said illegal downloads, and by extension you make Haken an unwitting accomplice in that act.

Do what you want to do man. I don't care. But you continually posting links to illegal downloads of copyrighted material on a website that requires no login and can be searched on Google, as I've mentioned before, puts Haken in a possible bad spot since he probably isn't even aware that you do it all the time and he doesn't have anybody in charge of moderating this site to take down those links and boot people who keep posting them.

If you think I'm making a big deal out of nothing, as an experiment, I'd suggest you create a reddit account and go to the r/boxoffice forum and post the links to your movies there and see how quickly your links get taken down and your account is banned.

I don't think that in 2023 Haken would ever face any costly legal battles over this, but if he were to get takedown notices from the lawyers of copyright holders, you'd be insane to expect or even to think that he'd take a stand and tell them to fuck off. So what do you think his first course of action to comply is going to be?

Do you think he's going to take the massive amount of time out of his personal life to go through hundreds of thousands of old posts looking for all the illegal pirate links, or do you think he'd just take down the entire fff.net site and be done with it?

We're lucky Haken even keeps the lights on here in 2023. And every time you post a pirated link on his site you're spitting in his face.

It's like I'm talking to a child.

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