Hollywood Fatigue...people flee California and is Hollyweird finished? by JAYNEZTOWN

CINEMA

Hollywood Fatigue...people flee California and is Hollyweird finished?

POSTED BY: JAYNEZTOWN
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 05:35
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 1273
PAGE 1 of 1

Tuesday, May 3, 2022 12:42 PM

Superhero Fatigue...politics forced into film. New Dr Strange - is the collapse of Hollywood ending and Movies coming back this summer?

Has the movie landscape been destroyed...a perfect storm?

maybe something better will rise from the ashes??

‘Doctor Strange’ Might Be The Most Insanely Marvel Movie Yet
https://cwatlanta.cbslocal.com/2022/05/03/doctor-strange-might-be-the-
most-insanely-marvel-movie-yet/

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness: Is new Marvel horror too scary for children?
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1604614/Doctor-Strange-i
n-the-Multiverse-of-Madness-BBFC-rating-how-scary-children-horror

will video games to tv shows/movies take over

maybe indie European or US films grows

Will South Korea dominate cinema and tv or will people go back top Japan like manga product and anime?

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, May 14, 2022 6:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Woke dumpster fire Wandavision 2: In the Mouth of Blandness crashes and burns and drops 82% on its second Friday, making it officially the MCU movie with the least legs yet.

It had zero competition this weekend. It is also still open in a post-plandemic record 4,534 theaters, making one wonder why even bother keeping the lights on if nobody is coming to see your show. Talk about celebrating empty victories.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Doctor-Strange-in-the-Multiverse-of-
Madness-(2022)#tab=box-office

Die already, MCU.

--------------------------------------------------

Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Friday, May 20, 2022 1:06 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Ive been told its ok some good nods to Marvel and old Sam Rami movies but it ruined itself with more of the SJW 'Message' the Antifa Feminist stuff keeps creeping in, Strange I hear is like a guest in his own movie and I hear its an apologist film for serial killer feminists, it makes excuses for Wanada going psycho mommy and killing everyone.

Might stream it or catch the DVD

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, May 21, 2022 5:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Embarrassing...

It only made 8 Million yesterday and there's still no competition.

They're not even going to end up banking half of what No Way Home did by the time this turd leaves the theaters, despite holding the record for the largest US theatrical release since Democrats shut down the country in spring of 2020.

Having Sam Rami attached means nothing. Disney Marvel movies don't even need directors. They're all directed by suits sitting at a table. 10 years from now they'll be made by AI Bots.

--------------------------------------------------

Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, September 10, 2023 8:10 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Blue Beetle is WB / DC

Dr Strange was Marvel Disney

I do still go to the cinema ...not as much. I seen Dr Strange online and I fast forwarded through chunks of it, I didn't even enjoy watching any of the trailers or any of the movie for free.

the genre might be dead now

Some of the biggest films
Cheapish horrors Insidious The Red Door, Evil Dead Rise, The Pope's Exorcist
That Avatar scifi remake about invader Earthlings and giant native space smurfs
The TopGun movie remade into a more modern story
Suepr Mario Bros based on a video game
Barbie based on the Doll
Oppenheimer a movie about the guy who helps build the Atom-Bomb
The Sound of Freedom, a story about human trafficking crimes

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, September 10, 2023 8:11 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

2023 - The Death Of The Superhero

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, September 10, 2023 10:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: (May 21st, 2022)
Embarrassing...

It only made 8 Million yesterday and there's still no competition.

They're not even going to end up banking half of what No Way Home did by the time this turd leaves the theaters, despite holding the record for the largest US theatrical release since Democrats shut down the country in spring of 2020.

Having Sam Rami attached means nothing. Disney Marvel movies don't even need directors. They're all directed by suits sitting at a table. 10 years from now they'll be made by AI Bots.

Spider-Man: No Way Home https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Spider-Man-No-Way-Home-(2021)#tab=su
mmary

Worldwide Box Office: 1,910,048,245

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness: https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Doctor-Strange-in-the-Multiverse-of-
Madness-(2022)#tab=summary

Worldwide Gross: $952,224,986

... or 49.85345205246373% of what No Way Home made.

I made that prediction on Saturday, May 21st, which was Dr. Strange's 16th day in theaters out of a 98 day run.

I'm just good at this. Really, really good at this.

--------------------------------------------------

How you do anything is how you do everything.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Friday, October 6, 2023 10:32 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

We had a few years to notice changes
I also have never seen Canadian tv crash so bad...usually if tv shows in the USA stumble Canada would offer location.
How would you define movies or tv and film of the late 2019 or 2020s, so or 2021, 2022, 2023

1Movies afraid to comment
a movie will not comment with any statement. Saying nothing, mix all into a confused mess as ideas are hateful, dislike think and rude jokes are wrong, everything is suddenly Offensive. You want to put a joke in your film? Sonic the Hedgehog, Over the Moon, Trolls World Tour and some superhero Paws Dog Patrol thing are classed as good safe comedy. Other times the Tranny pro-islamo LGBT Open Borders Transexual diversity thing is seen everywhere.

2Money crash
Covid, SJW crash....a movie industry in recession also in Strike

3Playstation and Xbox and 'Barbie' will be the new comicbook material
Video Games and Cartoons are now 'movies' Mortal Kombat or even Mattel Barbie Fashion kid toy dolls
Uncharted, Werewolves Within, Rampage, the video game to tv ‘The Last of Us’

4Overseas Champion
Foreign alien culture influence. A building of a powerful over sea industry from s.Korea, Germany, Spain, China, Japan might set some kind of standard for 'Art'
the Indian 'RRR' the K-drama All of Us Are Dead or 'Kingdom' Barbarians or Barbaren and 8 Days the German tv

5Ultra-Gritty
Hyper-Real, small Horror films, some Grim and Lower budget and big Classic IMAX Show with Top Actors
Some old franchise ideas still make money TopGun, The Batman, some new material 'Nomadland'.
A Quiet Place Part II the Halloween franchise, Pearl, Nope 2022
Documentary style drama is now box office
The Lighthouse, The Fire Within A Requiem for Katia and Maurice Krafft, All Quiet On the Western Front, 1917, Squid Games, Another Round, 1899, Parasite, Argentina Ninteen EightyFive, Sound of Metal

The Death of Comicbook Superhero Tv and Movies?

Brie Larson faces a fight to save the world in latest trailer for The Marvels

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2023/10/brie-larson-faces-a-fight-to-sa
ve-the-world-in-latest-trailer-for-the-marvels/

Will nu-Aquaman or Neo Joker II Flop?
and from DC Warner Bros...Batgirl, Shazman, Black Adam, Batwoman, The Suicide Squad

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Friday, October 6, 2023 12:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
We had a few years to notice changes
I also have never seen Canadian tv crash so bad...usually if tv shows in the USA stumble Canada would offer location.
How would you define movies or tv and film of the late 2019 or 2020s, so or 2021, 2022, 2023

It's been going on longer than 4 years.

Quote:
1Movies afraid to comment
a movie will not comment with any statement. Saying nothing, mix all into a confused mess as ideas are hateful, dislike think and rude jokes are wrong, everything is suddenly Offensive. You want to put a joke in your film? Sonic the Hedgehog, Over the Moon, Trolls World Tour and some superhero Paws Dog Patrol thing are classed as good safe comedy. Other times the Tranny pro-islamo LGBT Open Borders Transexual diversity thing is seen everywhere.

2Money crash
Covid, SJW crash....a movie industry in recession also in Strike

3Playstation and Xbox and 'Barbie' will be the new comicbook material
Video Games and Cartoons are now 'movies' Mortal Kombat or even Mattel Barbie Fashion kid toy dolls
Uncharted, Werewolves Within, Rampage, the video game to tv ‘The Last of Us’

You forgot Nintendo, the company that finally figured out how to make a successful video game movie. (Note that I said successful and not good. I don't know if it's good, and I think there were good video game adaptations in the past that weren't successful).

The shows... I dunno. I think people who thought The Last of Us is a good show need to reserve their judgement until they do the second game.

Quote:
4Overseas Champion
Foreign alien culture influence. A building of a powerful over sea industry from s.Korea, Germany, Spain, China, Japan might set some kind of standard for 'Art'
the Indian 'RRR' the K-drama All of Us Are Dead or 'Kingdom' Barbarians or Barbaren and 8 Days the German tv

5Ultra-Gritty
Hyper-Real, small Horror films, some Grim and Lower budget and big Classic IMAX Show with Top Actors
Some old franchise ideas still make money TopGun, The Batman, some new material 'Nomadland'.
A Quiet Place Part II the Halloween franchise, Pearl, Nope 2022
Documentary style drama is now box office
The Lighthouse, The Fire Within A Requiem for Katia and Maurice Krafft, All Quiet On the Western Front, 1917, Squid Games, Another Round, 1899, Parasite, Argentina Ninteen EightyFive, Sound of Metal

People want to see movies, and they'll still go out and see some of them. As for horror, it will be a fad like anything else. I honestly can't believe we're looking at a possibility of 9 or more of the top 15 most successful movies of the year being in the genre by the end of the month. There's always going to be genre fans who see all of it, but the mainstream appeal this year is what is interesting. I wouldn't expect to see that repeated for too many years though.

Quote:
The Death of Comicbook Superhero Tv and Movies?

Hopefully.

Quote:
Brie Larson faces a fight to save the world in latest trailer for The Marvels

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2023/10/brie-larson-faces-a-fight-to-sa
ve-the-world-in-latest-trailer-for-the-marvels/

No thanks.

Quote:
Will nu-Aquaman or Neo Joker II Flop?

I'm really not sure. Beyond all reason, the first Aquaman grossed over a billion dollars. I don't even know how DC did that since Aquaman is a joke. But Amber Heard is still in it, every other DC movie this year flopped and the only superhero movie to make a profit in 2023 has been Guardians 3. It's got a lot going against it.

I think it can probably break even and maybe make a few bucks like Guardians 3 did. Maybe? I'm not going to make an Aquaman 2 Failure Thread about it.

Joker 2? I dunno. Is Lady GaGa really in it? That seems like a joke to me. When Joker came out I had said that they should scrap their existing DCU and make a new one with a new Batman and this new Joaquin Phoenix Joker. The budgets could be a lot cheaper with a more grounded and realistic world they'd have as a sandbox. But they didn't and the idea that they'd make a sequel to this entirely disconnected from any universe Joker perplexes me. DC's universe hasn't made any sense for years. No cohesion at all. 2 simultaneous Batmans with Ben Afflek and the dude from Twilight at the same time? 2 simultaneous Jokers with Joaquin Phoenix and the guy from 30 Seconds to Mars at the same time? Always talk about rebooting the universe or dropping characters if their movies flopped, or even shelving finished movies because they were so bad they would damage the brand.

If Joker 2 has a mid-budget like the first one had ($50 Million) it's going to be a box office success. I wouldn't expect it to make nearly as much as the first one did. I don't think I'd bother watching it.

Quote:
and from DC Warner Bros...Batgirl, Shazman, Black Adam, Batwoman, The Suicide Squad

Blue Beetle, Bird of Prey...

--------------------------------------------------

Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, May 29, 2024 5:27 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Will Cannes Rebound After Hollywood Strikes Overshadowed Last Year’s Market?

https://variety.com/2024/film/markets-festivals/cannes-hollywood-strik
es-market-bidding-war-the-apprentice-francis-ford-coppola-1235995746/

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, May 29, 2024 5:35 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Hollywood crews are unemployed, fear LA's production decline - Los Angeles Times

By Kaitlyn Huamani | May 28, 2024, 3 AM PT

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-05-28/h
ollywood-crew-unemployed-fewer-jobs-la-production-decline

After more than two decades in the industry, Keith Dunkerley still loves nothing more than working on a set. The 47-year-old director of photography and camera operator, who’s had consistent work since he moved to Los Angeles 23 years ago, said his is “the best job in the world.”

Since the writers’ and actors’ strikes last year and the slow restart of production, though, Dunkerley said his work opportunities look quite different than in past years: He has worked only 18 days during the first five months of 2024.

“People outside the business don’t understand this is not a factory,” Dunkerley said. “It’s not like, ‘OK, the strike’s over, go back to the factory, turn the lights on and get the machines going.’ A lot of us knew it’s going to take some time to ramp things up.”

While Dunkerley supported his family through savings and odd jobs as a handyman on TaskRabbit during the strikes, the sluggish rebound has been difficult for him. He’s recently made more than 60 calls to friends and industry contacts to look for prospects.

What Dunkerley is experiencing is a part of the massive ripple effect of the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes that is still affecting tens of thousands of people working in entertainment and adjacent industries. Crew members, especially, have been hit hard.

“I am currently in the worst place I’ve ever been in my entire life financially,” said Heather Fink, a boom operator and director. “The industry is in a crisis. It is not back to normal. We are in debt.”
Heather Fink, in a white tank top and headphones, holds a boom mic on set.

Heather Fink has been working in sound departments consistently for 14 years, but she said the strikes left her financially vulnerable. “There’s simply not enough work out there,” she said.

(John Ales)

FilmLA, a nonprofit that tracks on-location permitting in the city, released a report in April that revealed a slow bounceback in production after the dual strikes. Local on-location filming in the first quarter of the year was down 8.7% from the first quarter of 2023. Television production was especially impacted, with production falling 16.2% from last year.

Paul Audley, the president of FilmLA, said these findings are startling when considering that film and television production saw a “retraction” at the start of 2023 in anticipation of the looming writers’ strike.

“What we’re facing is a combination of effects of the studios, as well as the streamers, cutting back not only the number of series they produced but in some cases the number of episodes they’re producing for shows,” Audley said.

Subscriber Only Content

Subscribers get exclusive access to this story

With scarce work opportunities, many crew members are concerned about how they will maintain their health insurance, which is often directly tied to the number of hours they work. Those who have coverage with the Motion Picture Industry Pension and Health Plans must work 400 hours in a six-month period to maintain their insurance. Many veteran crew members, like hairstylist and department head Jason Orion, who’s worked on shows including “Grey’s Anatomy,” said he has never been close to losing his coverage until now.

Orion was able to keep his health insurance thanks to a job on “9-1-1.” He said because he worked down to the wire before the 2007-08 writers’ strike, he thought he’d be busy until the strikes officially began. In reality, he had “an almost nonexistent beginning of 2023.” Even the shows and films shooting in L.A. now have slashed many departments, he added, noting sets that historically employed 20 hairstylists now have just two or three.

Orion said “9-1-1” was a “very hard show,” noting that crew member Rico Priem recently died in a car accident after pulling a 14-hour overnight shift. “We were all tired, it was a very terrible thing,” Orion said after noting that hours on sets are generally “brutal and relentless.”

These tough conditions are one of the top concerns in ongoing negotiations between the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE), which advocates for film and TV crew members, and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP), which represents Hollywood studios. Much like the WGA and SAG-AFTRA negotiations, wage increases, residuals and the use of artificial intelligence also are issues on the table.

Some crew members said they’re cautiously optimistic that negotiations will proceed smoothly and that work opportunities will ramp up once an agreement is reached, which members seem to believe will happen before their current contract expires on July 31.

For others, optimism does not come easily after a year of struggle. Fink said working in sound for 14 years was “honestly one of the biggest mistakes I’ve ever made in my life,” and that she feels uneasy about the future. One of her primary concerns is the increasing number of productions moving away from L.A. and California to states or countries that offer better tax incentives for production — a phenomenon dubbed runaway production.

“I’m so afraid that there isn’t going to be a job to even be concerned [about] what the conditions are,” Fink said.

California offers $330 million annually in film tax credits, but other states looking to build up their status as production hubs, like New York and Georgia, provide more attractive incentives and programs with higher or unlimited funding. New York’s cap is $700 million and Georgia currently does not have a limit.

“California remains noncompetitive with the rest of the world that is offering incentives and tax credits,” Audley said. “Everybody’s aware that California is not an inexpensive place to do business and we have, in the past, been able to overcome that … but it’s just noncompetitive and we don’t have anywhere near enough money in those funds from the state to draw and keep production in L.A.”

Outside of the U.S., several countries, including the United Kingdom, New Zealand and Australia, are offering cushy tax incentives for studios, where they can bypass unions and pay crews lower wages than in the States.
Ian Barbella, in a blue collared shirt and green pants, holds a camera on set.

Ian Barbella has more than 15 years of experience working on sets. He said his current job opportunities have shrunk by half.

(Kyle Petitjean)

“For so long, American culture was the thing that we exported. It is very strange to watch everyone be OK that it’s getting imported,” said Ian Barbella, a camera assistant who’s worked on series and films including “Lessons in Chemistry” and “Wine Country.” “There’s no context of [how] that’s an American company not using American workers.”

These compounding sources of stress — the fear of their jobs moving out of state or abroad, the strenuous conditions they face on set and the lack of employment opportunities — are affecting the mental health of many crew members.

Diego Mariscal, a dolly grip with 25-plus years of experience and credits including “Spider-Man: No Way Home” and “The Mandalorian,” has been running a popular Facebook group called Crew Stories for the last five years. The online community of 90,000 shares on-set experiences — both the good and the bad — and offers support through posts and fundraising for colleagues in need. Mariscal said he has seen the toll this “weird limbo” has had on his peers.

“Everyone’s just in panic mode and they don’t know what to do,” Mariscal said. Through his social media accounts, he said he has recently fielded multiple messages from crew members experiencing suicidal thoughts and severe mental distress.

Communities like Crew Stories and the friendships crew members have developed with co-workers have been a refuge for many. Jennifer Rose Clasen, a still photographer for “The Flight Attendant” and “Big Little Lies,” said her “film family” has been leaning on one another and sharing their mental health struggles as they muscle through the dry spell of work and the uncertainty that lies ahead.
Jennifer Rose Clasen holds a camera and smiles during a shoot.

Jennifer Rose Clasen, who has worked consistently for years, said she has been out of work for 14 months.

(Julián Vergara)

“I constantly have to remind my friends this isn’t their fault because there’s a little trickle of work out there so there’s just enough for people to feel like they’re failing,” Clasen said. “That, compounded over 10, 12, 14 months, truly takes a toll on people’s well-being.”

Amid the mental and financial challenges they’re facing, some said those outside of the industry expect them to seek out adjacent careers. Dunkerley said it’s not that simple.

“I love what I do,” he said. “You definitely question what you do, you wake up [and] it’s kind of like, ‘What am I doing? What am I supposed to do now? What’s going to happen?’ And you just hope that something will pop up. I’m really hopeful. Fingers crossed.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

YOUR OPTIONS

SHARE THREAD

NEW POSTS TODAY

USER	POST DATE

USER

POST DATE