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Male and Female Imponderables--Pour Some Sugar On Me

POSTED BY: TRISTAN
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 13:00
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Monday, August 14, 2006 5:49 AM

TRISTAN


New thread for the Imponderable-ers to continue our fine discussions. This thread's title also brought to you by DeepGirl187. If there are any other song title ideas, PM me!

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Monday, August 14, 2006 5:53 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


*jumps in* FIRST!!!




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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:04 AM

MSG


yippee a new home!

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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:08 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


I suppose we should start actually discussing something, rather than just sitting here! Any suggestions? Brain is fried today!

EDIT - Just thought of something! The 'Sugar Water' scene from an episode of Buffy. Basically, Buffy is having a bit of a crisis and has a very sexy dance with a guy who fancies her like crazy (Xander) to make her boyfriend (Angel) jealous.

Has anyone here ever been on the wrong end of the jealousy game? Anyone have someone try to make them jealous?

Just as I'm typing this I think we may have discussed this before... Correct me if we have!




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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:27 AM

MSG


Well I think we have, but my two cents are, deliberately making someone jealous is unkind and wrong. It never helps. If they like you, then they do. If not, then no amount of taunting will help.
That's just my opinion though:)



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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:30 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


i s'pose, mostly just for the sake of supposing, that the logic might be to goad someone into admitting they like you, or prick their pride into them taking some action.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:33 AM

MSG


I guess I am just so direct I'd be more along the lines of. "I like you, if you like me , then we should go out."

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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:36 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Sounds like a sensible way to be, MSG. I never got what making someone jealous was supposed to accomplish anyway, unless you're setting out to hurt someone.

I have had the jealousy game backfire on one boyfriend and one would be boyfriend. They tried to make me jealous and I dumped them. I don't have the time or patience for mind games.




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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:36 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


much more sensible approach, well, easier anyways xD less prone to backfiring hideously methinks ^^

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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:38 AM

DAYVE


Hello....
Got a short span here.... i've had this discussion here before... the jealously thing... i was used by a girl to make a guy jealous and as a result had to fight the dude... was not a fun night - so i would recommend against using jealousy as a tool in the war of love... even though it's been said that "all's fair" in such situations... it really isn't...



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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:43 AM

MSG


I really hate that " all's fair in love and war" I mean come on ...We all know there are things that are over the line. Besides as I tell my students, if life was fair pizza and chocolate would be as good for you and low in calories as raw veggies:)

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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:47 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Mornin' all. Little less punchy today so maybe I'll be a little more coherant. Gotta problem needs solving off the board. May e-mail a few who can help.

HELP!



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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:48 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


*FMF stares at MsG as tho stunned* You mean life ISN"T FAIR!





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Monday, August 14, 2006 6:53 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


as it is also said, do you know the differance between love and war?

yes, one involves alot of physical and mental pain and anguish, and the other one's war

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Monday, August 14, 2006 7:16 AM

RUGBUG


Ah, once again back to my dear imponderables. I survived getting run off with by my psycho horse, so all is good....

MSG: cats are a pain to train. All the usual food techniques all make them more bothersome. I would just move the cat everytime it gets in the way. Or learn to compute avec kitty.

Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:

EDIT - Just thought of something! The 'Sugar Water' scene from an episode of Buffy. Basically, Buffy is having a bit of a crisis and has a very sexy dance with a guy who fancies her like crazy (Xander) to make her boyfriend (Angel) jealous.




I always thought that scene was less about Buffy trying to make Angel jealous and more about power. She feels vulnerable (due to Master slayage) and is going to make herself feel powerful, no matter who she hurts. At least, that's always been my take.

I have never intentionally set something up to make someone feel jealous, but who hasn't sort of enjoyed the naturally occurring moments when it becomes apparent to your SO that you are wanted by others. IMO, that's all goodness (unless SO is controlling and turns it into badness). A little rush of "hey, s/he's with me. I'm lucky." But intentionally doing something rotten, like the Buffy/Xander/Angel thing, is indicative of a problem in the relationship, IMO.



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Monday, August 14, 2006 7:17 AM

SPACEANJL


So...you're into pain, little boy?

I am off to get my tin-foil helmet on - I was just about to play with the jealousy Imponderable in my fic, so someone is stealing my thoughts. *Waves a pointy stick* Back off, these are my plot bunnies, mine, mine...

Too much caffeine. *SpaceAnJL lurches back into the Forsaken thread*

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Monday, August 14, 2006 7:17 AM

WHITEFALL


As to what MSG was saying about school... ahh, school. Doesnt start for me for two more weeks, but of course I need to do a mound of homework before then.

Rose, I admit that 'last resort' was a bad word choice on my part, but it was for a lack of a better term. Ie, that marriage should be the culmination of a relationship, not the high point of it. (That may be the same thing, but not in my mind for some reason)

And jealousy, while we've been over this before, I too gotta say that jealousy makes no one happy, and if it's a way to get someone to take action, just talk to the dang person, whichever gender is who, don't matter none.

P.S. Rugbug, are you ok? Something about being run over by your beloved equine?

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Monday, August 14, 2006 7:40 AM

SPACEANJL


You can't train cats, MsG. I can't even post the pic of my li'l furmonster.


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Monday, August 14, 2006 8:02 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Whitefall:

P.S. Rugbug, are you ok? Something about being run over by your beloved equine?




Yep, fine. Thanks for the concern. Actually, I didn't get run over...but run-off with. Horsey decided that he needed to get away from something REAL QUICK during our ride on Sunday. I had flashes of falling off and re-injury, but managed to keep said horsey between me and the ground. Biggest problem is appropriate reaction is counter-intuititve. All you want to do is pull back and make them stop ASAP. With my horse, you have to stop pulling and just let him go. If you do that, he decides pretty quickly that going anywhere that fast is TOO.Much.Work. He will them stop of his own accord. But there's a few seconds of scary/no-control.

Spaceanjl: I trained my cat to sit down on command. It started out food-based and mostly her idea and I ran with it. It was a fun little trick, but said kitty had to go to the great kitty beyond. She was cool.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 8:08 AM

MSG


yes I know the cats live to thwart me...sigh
Whitefall...see we teachers have to go back to school before you kids do:)

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Monday, August 14, 2006 8:12 AM

WHITEFALL


no, i know, but seems your utah schools go back a week earlier than ours. Cause still two weeks short here, so wouldnt that mean teachers go back the following week?

Eh, wasimmer.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Monday, August 14, 2006 8:21 AM

SPACEANJL


Now, my cat has trained me to open tins and doors on command. It's a different peremptory yawp for each.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:03 AM

MSG


Whitefall... We go back on the 22nd the kids go back on 28th. I'm not sure where that puts us relative to when you go back:)
Yes I know the feeling spaceAnJL- our cats like to be fed at 8pm sharp. at 8:05 D.J. ( our youngest) will sit and stare at me then at the dogs and the dogs will start whining and running around until I get up and feed. So our cat actually controls the dogs as well. Also, if we don't get up when he wants, he places his paws under the door, hooks them and shakes the door hard enough to rattle the frame.I'm just waiting for the day he takes us hostage:)

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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:04 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Yeah, and if wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak.

Have no earthly reason to have said that, just had to get it out.

Thanks MSG and FMF, needed it.



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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:07 AM

WHITEFALL


And people say cats wont take over the world!!!

Ok, nvm MSG, you win, it's the same schedule over here, but you implied you were going back this week....

ANYHOO.................

Ok, don't actually have anything to say here....

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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:08 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


You are always welcome NV







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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:17 AM

MSG


Sadly Whitefall, I am I take a lot of classes to get more training to help my students so I end up back earlier than everyone else. I really hate when they start those back to school ads right now...like I need a reminder that my summer is dwindling

NV- babe any time and anything I can do to help. You're one hell of a guy and were I unmarried I would take you in a heartbeat!

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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:22 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Could be worse. I'm already back. Last week was ~meant~ to be my week off, but my boss injured her back and I had to cover all her classes.

*sigh* Wake me up when September ends...




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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:28 AM

MSG


eeew HUGS desktop. I hate covering other's classes. It's just irritating:) Plus the kids are more difficult.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:28 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I had heard mentioned before that you teach, but what and who. I notice there are numerous teachers or folks that taught here. Even a few human service folks like myself.


Seems as if everytime I consider sowing my man-whore oats something or someone stands in my way. But nothing seems to come out of it. I guess I'm blessed and cursed. Thanks and love to all.







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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:29 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Also, if we don't get up when he wants, he places his paws under the door, hooks them and shakes the door hard enough to rattle the frame.




AH, my cat used to do that. That is, until she learned it was a quick ticket to being put outside. Oddly, she stopped doing it after a bit.

I'm not the nicest pet owner I suppose. ;)

Now, when I house sit, Mr.-I-am-royalty-and-should-be-treated-as-such doesn't get to come anywhere near me and does not get to sleep in the same room as me or the dogs. (But this cat is one that will bite you if he's laying on you and you try to move your arm or some such nonsense.)

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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:34 AM

MSG


D.J.'s sweet and usually docile, he just wants us to get up and play. We take turns getting up with him I figured it's good practice for the baby:)

NV- Whatever you do we're here for you, but I think you should make yourself happy:)

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Monday, August 14, 2006 10:06 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Migh5t have to run home and put on my suit. Feel like Gittin' down like Mr. Smiley emote.


As for cats: Our cat who we call Cat, (mom named her pepper, but she answers onlt to Cat), had her first litter a few months back. The day they left she went right back into heat. Since we would not let her out she went nuts.Crazy cat would run up and down the main hall for hours. She's better now. I hope.

P.S.- A little note or warning for all. If you wake up and your hair is sticky, your PS2 and X box are wet, and the truck is almost out of gas, ask nobody what happened. Just go on your merry way.
And I was geting into GTA again too gorramit.



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Monday, August 14, 2006 10:13 AM

MSG


NV- oh you do love to present us with just enough info to keep us a wondering and a pondering:) So I assume you went and "fixed" the cat and all:)

You know I have never had enough to drink that I couldn't remember what happened...I wonder why that is? Oh yeah it's 'cause I get buzzed off 1-2 drinks and can't drink any more...oh well just one more experience I am doomed never to have...like getting a cavity, or doing regretable things as a teenager...sigh just some sort of goody two shoes gene I can't shake

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Monday, August 14, 2006 10:19 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I found out there was a snack/drink fight, hence the sticky hair. And we'd gone between houses numerous times. But I cannot figure out the PS2/Xbox mystery.
Think the Mystery Machine might be rolling into the parking lot soon. Oh the wacky fun. Think I'll have to bitchslap Freddy and go investigate with Daphnie.

Ru Ro Shaggy.



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Monday, August 14, 2006 10:21 AM

MSG


Hey what about Velma????

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Monday, August 14, 2006 10:24 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Movie Velma, oh hell yeah. Cartoon Velma, maybe. But I'll have to give her a cute nickname or something, (Moms name is Velma. Yeah, thats a might creepy.)



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Monday, August 14, 2006 10:31 AM

MSG


ok we'll just call her Emma or V or something...'cause yeah that'd be a bit weird... mind you my dad has a sister, a wife, and a daughter named Margaret


EDIT- my husband's got a thing for Linda Cardellini ( movie Velma) too:)
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Monday, August 14, 2006 10:33 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Bet he has nicks for all of them. I get confused with my brother Jon. Mind you he's a little taller, better looking, and is pretty much white.



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Monday, August 14, 2006 10:36 AM

WHITEFALL


I'm afraid I don't know much about scoobi doo...

Well I'll have to leave for awhile pretty soon, but I was looking at the SF browncoat site, and.... dang that browncoat ball looks cool, for all my 17-ness and lack of anything even remotely resembling formal. And of course the issue of travel, (may seem petty to you folks who are countries away) it'd be an hour each way at best, probably more if I can find a bus. And of course it'd be a school weekend.....

Huh, well that's something for me to ponder, leastways.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 10:41 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I like the idea of a ball. Though, I appear to look more like part of security rather then a guest. Maybe you know someone who can help make or alter an existing outfit?



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Monday, August 14, 2006 11:08 AM

MSG


NV- oh you do not look like security...you have really got to get yourself a mirror! Oh and only my sis has a nickname, both mom and aunt are just plain Margaret...my dad has 4 sis and 3 daughters so every time he reaches for our names we get...Carol, Evelyn, Margaret, Diane, Cathy, Margi,Lila...oh you know who I'm talking to

Whitefall- definitely ponderable wish I could go, I love balls:) Of course now you wouldn't end up with one of those truly charming black cardboard folders with photos you get when you go to all the proms and homecomings and such...mind you they just take up room in a drawer now, but Whitefall get them anyway it's worth it and fun to look and see what awful taste you had in clothes once upon a time ( the late 80's-early 90's were a bad place fashion wise)I'm sure my child will find the whole stack vastly humorous:)

On a side note- I HATE and LOATHE and DESPISE my washing machine. Disbalancing freak of a machine!

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Monday, August 14, 2006 11:14 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Keep forgettin nieces name is Velma and not Baby or little one. Might be smart to start calling her by her real name.

And that may not be a proper way to end a sentance to someone wishing to attend a ball. Perma smile is now in effect.



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Monday, August 14, 2006 11:20 AM

MSG


oh come on NV you know you're hot...we all know you're hot...

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Monday, August 14, 2006 11:30 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


(Licks finger and touches self)

SIZZLE

Damn that hurt.

Thanks. Had to be sure.






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Monday, August 14, 2006 11:31 AM

MSG


ok so now you just need to go get someone to kiss that burn and make it better;)
Yes I know subtle and all, but I just want you do be the one out kicking up your heels and having fun for a change:)
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Monday, August 14, 2006 11:57 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Felt like dancin' for over a month now, AND I DON'T DANCE!

As for the burning..




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Monday, August 14, 2006 12:01 PM

MSG


well you know me...I love dancing, it's like touching heaven ( ok big, peaceful smile)




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Monday, August 14, 2006 12:07 PM

ZEEK


Slow day in imponderable land huh?

I've got a cat too. She's the sweetest little thing ever. All my friends make fun of me just because I like my cat more than I like them. I don't care. My kitty rocks.


Funny story actually. I went on vacation last week and they were getting back at me for when I tped one of their apartments when they were gone. However, with my apartment they had the fear of God put in them that if they ended up doing anything that hurt my kitty they'd pay. Oh how they would have paid. She was fine though

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Monday, August 14, 2006 12:22 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Actually, there is alot happening on the side. Funny how folks are with their pets. I basically got a "I won't F with you if you don't F with me" attitude with my moms pets. Cat gets a bit lonely or wants food so she'll bug me. Since she's an alright cat most of the time I usually jump up and feed her or I'll pet het for a while.

I would like to thank MSG for sharing her summer vacation with us. Gonna be a sizeable chunk missing when school starts. Thanks MSG.



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