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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:37 PM

WHOISRIVER


From Whedonesque;

All right, now I have to jump in and set the record straight. EW is a fine rag, but they do take things out of context. Obviously when I said I had 'closure', what I meant was "I hate Serenity, I hated Firefly, I think my fans are stupid and Nathan Fillion smells like turnips." But EW's always got to put some weird negative spin on it. But so we're clear once and for all: If you read a quote saying "I'd love to do more in this 'verse with these actors in any medium" all I'm saying is that Nathan has a turnipy odor. It's not his fault, he doesn't eat a lot of them but everyone else in the cast noticed it and tht's not really something I'm prepared to deal with any more. And Jewel said outright she wouldn't do scenes with him except stuff like the SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER funeral scene which was outside in a high SPOILER wind. So if I do manage to find another incarnation for my beloved creation, it will have been totally against my will.

I hope that clears everything up. Oh, and when I say I want to do a Spike movie, it means I have a bunion on my toe.

-joss (by which I mean Tim)

(no, actually me.)

joss | December 21, 02:12 CET


- gossi

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:43 PM

CUB


That is one funny man.

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"I am luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." - Chris Cornell

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:43 PM

ETHAN


I thought there was something different in the air at the Flanvention after Nathan arrived.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:43 PM

CBY


Quote:

Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
From Whedonesque;


Can somebody break down for me what this is supposed to mean? This guy speaks in other dimensions...

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:43 PM

CHINDI


EXCELLENT... tis the season for turnips!!

man that Tim can really write!

don't you love it that he KNOWS what we are all saying (thinking?? ooh spooky!)

Chindi feeling ALLLLL better now..

and btw i know it's joss.. that was HUMOR!

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:51 PM

WHOISRIVER


Whedonesque: http://whedonesque.com/

It's a weblog that tracks Joss Whedon's work. Joss posts as.. erm.. 'joss'.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:02 PM

UNCHARTEDOUTLAW


Oh thank gawd, I was getting really pissy toward EW when I read it the other night. :P

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http://www.fireflytalk.com - the new damn podcast

"It's just an object. It doesn't
mean what you think." -River Tam

"How did your brain even learn human
speech? I'm just so curious." -Wash

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:06 PM

WHOISRIVER


By the way, just so people know, the EW article has caused a dint in Firefly's fandom.

Example URL:

http://www.technorati.com/search/Whedon+Firefly

Check out the blogs online... Buh-bye, fans.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:12 PM

CBY


Quote:

Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
Whedonesque: http://whedonesque.com/

It's a weblog that tracks Joss Whedon's work. Joss posts as.. erm.. 'joss'.



That much is clear, I still can't make sense of this "Fillion smells"-stuff What point is made here telling this ironic story? (if there is a point at all)

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:14 PM

KAZZAHDRANE


If anyone here reads Slashdot, they'll know there was a story posted there about this today. I've now replied to the story with Joss' response. If you have mod points on /., please mod my post up so the truth is heard!

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=171757&threshold=1&commentsort=0&t
id=129&tid=97&tid=214&mode=thread&cid=14305232



I'm incredibly pissed off at EW right now. So many sites are reporting the death of Firefly and it's just not true! This is going to damage the fanbase :(

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:16 PM

DONCOAT


My interpretation:

"If you think the EW interview means Firefly is over, you're as crazy as a turnip."


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:18 PM

SERENYTY


Ah yes. Joss.

Funny guy! I'm glad that he didn't agree with the EW article!

~A message from Serenyty~

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:25 PM

SAMEERTIA


Bless Joss!
He is a god!

As for the turnips, well... no comment.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:25 PM

CBY


Quote:

Originally posted by Kazzahdrane:
This is going to damage the fanbase :(



I don't think so. No one here believed it blindly (just the few people I had silly arguments with lately).

("it" = the EW article)

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:56 PM

SAMEERTIA


Quote:

Originally posted by Kazzahdrane:
I'm incredibly pissed off at EW right now. So many sites are reporting the death of Firefly and it's just not true! This is going to damage the fanbase :(




Bah.
You think one stupid EW article full of misquotes is going to back off Browncoats?
I say it won't happen.

We won't let Firefly die. It's just too darn pretty.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:02 PM

KAZZAHDRANE


I was thinking more of the potential fanbase. We know the Firefly DVDs are still selling like hotcakes, how many people might be put off if they think the franchise is dead? Every fan counts.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:19 PM

AEGIS


yeah, I've got buddies (very stupid ones mind) that wont watch the show because it got cancelled..

--- Aegis
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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:36 PM

SAMEERTIA


Well, they're dummies.

Seriously, we just have to keep getting the word out that Firefly still has a beating heart. Joss has obviously not given up, and it's up to us to make sure that everyone hears that.

Browncoats were determined and faithful, and not giving up LONG before I even learned of Firefly. (For which I am eternally grateful!)

New fans won't be turned off by one dissy article, and the ones who won't even give it a chance just because it's been cancelled, well, it's really their loss, isn't it?


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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:51 PM

CHINDI


LOL FIRST it was all the Petitions.. petitions here, petitions there.. now it's EW and Joss' snappy reply... this 'vers is anything but dull!

And I LURVE that Joss has to reply at his site... cus he Does give a good gorram about what we think.. hell, he is the ultimate Browncoat, after all... (well maybe after Mal.. well maybe not since he thought Mal up in the first place..)

Oh- I am beginning to damage my OWN calm...

MERRY CHRISTMAS, HOLIDAYS, FESTIVUS whatever to all you fellow travelers!

Chindi

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:37 PM

EVERYWORLDSPINNIN


Suppose for a moment that this is all true. Sort of. In a Mal kind of way.

I would love if this was all a ruse to buy back the rights from Fox. A few well placed comments in major publications about Joss not wanting to revive the show or the movie, and Fox realizes that they have a property on their hands worth nothing now. Someone comes by and says, "Let me take that off your hands, that now worthless property of yours.", and Fox sells it. Then, the mask comes off, and it's Joss!! Fox executives, in a stinging bit of irony cry, "Curse your sudden, but inevitable betrayal!", and we get our show back!

OK, I'm reaching a bit.

I'm not letting go, regardless if it's true or not (which I don't think it is). Flan For Life baby!

"The last thing I want is that any of our descendents should look back in some years and despise us for not daring to act when we had so much capacity to act. We must dare to seek how, why and on what we agree. We shall thus be able to join together to look for alternative solutions and new ways of managing the world's challenges. Being diverse is our richness, acting together will be our strength". (Federico Mayor; 02-04-01;
UBUNTU Constituent Meeting).

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:05 PM

GELASSENHEIT


HAPPY DANCE!!! I LOVE JOSS!!!! HAPPY DANCE!!! I LOVE JOSS!!!



Gelassenheit means Serenity

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:54 PM

FLORALBUNNY


Reading that blog-tracker was a hard swallow.

The only proper way to combat the misimpression that JW has written off FF/S is to persuade the nice folk at EW that a corrective re-interview or clarification is in order. Let's hope JW is working on that. If anyone is sweet enough to accomplish it, he is.

If the bloggers who quoted EW as to the death of the show are still alive, still blogging, and still paying attention to EW, some of them might be expected to comment once again when something positive comes out.

In the mean time, getting nasty is more damaging than anything else, so let us be merry and festive and all that.

Turnips? Naw. Parsnips. But add a little eau de carotte and it's quite tempting. (drools)



bun
-- bastards singed my turtle --

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:30 AM

RELFEXIVE


It's good to *finally* get a response.... of sorts

I just hope the response can get 'out there' as quickly as the, let's face it, lying sack of sh*t article that caused this problem in the first place did and let people know FIREFLY IS NOT COMPLETELY DEAD AND GIVEN UP ON YET, GORRAMIT!



"My God - you're like a trained ape. Without the training."
"Come a day there won't be room for naughty men like us to slip about at all..."
"SUMMER!!"
http://www.theshadowdepository.co.uk/index.htm

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:37 AM

ANDRE83


Quote:

Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
From Whedonesque;

All right, now I have to jump in and set the record straight. EW is a fine rag, but they do take things out of context. Obviously when I said I had 'closure', what I meant was "I hate Serenity, I hated Firefly, I think my fans are stupid and Nathan Fillion smells like turnips." But EW's always got to put some weird negative spin on it. But so we're clear once and for all: If you read a quote saying "I'd love to do more in this 'verse with these actors in any medium" all I'm saying is that Nathan has a turnipy odor. It's not his fault, he doesn't eat a lot of them but everyone else in the cast noticed it and tht's not really something I'm prepared to deal with any more. And Jewel said outright she wouldn't do scenes with him except stuff like the SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER funeral scene which was outside in a high SPOILER wind. So if I do manage to find another incarnation for my beloved creation, it will have been totally against my will.

I hope that clears everything up. Oh, and when I say I want to do a Spike movie, it means I have a bunion on my toe.

-joss (by which I mean Tim)

(no, actually me.)

joss | December 21, 02:12 CET



Did you even read this letter? He talks about jokes we never had, things we never did!

Its a code. It just says; they're hurting me, get me out.


:P



Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:47 AM

KAZZAHDRANE


Quote:

Originally posted by Andre83:

Did you even read this letter? He talks about jokes we never had, things we never did!

Its a code. It just says; they're hurting me, get me out.


:P



Post of the week :D We're gonna get you out of there, Joss!

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:54 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Joss should have his own show... Right? Anyone else think that? "The Joss Show: or just: :Whedon!: no wait...

"The Joss Whedon Show !"

The man just cracks me up all the time! I think he's incredibly funny!

The
Somnambulist

www.cirqus.com

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:12 AM

MISSKITTEN


Yay for Joss and Turnips :P Gotta love that guys humor!

*~*~*

"Joss, if you kill him now I'll stuff a compression coil up your ass sideways!"
~ Kaylee, "Serenity in 2000 words or less"

Kaylee's the perfect woman!

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:13 AM

RIVERBIRCH


Forgive me, I'm coming off painkillers from surgery.... does this mean we absolutely get NO sequel to Serentiy?

* I swallowed a bug *

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:34 AM

MER


It's too early to tell, but there's a rumor that Universal talked about it.
It's pretty possible if Serenity's DVD sales are just as kick ass as Firefly or even more.

I can only hope...I want to know everybody's story besides River's. ^_^

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:46 AM

RELFEXIVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Andre83:
Did you even read this letter? He talks about jokes we never had, things we never did!

Its a code. It just says; they're hurting me, get me out.


:P



Okay, so I simply must agree that this definitely is the bestest post in a cat's age.



"My God - you're like a trained ape. Without the training."
"Come a day there won't be room for naughty men like us to slip about at all..."
"SUMMER!!"
http://www.theshadowdepository.co.uk/index.htm

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:00 AM

CAUSAL


For those coming off painkillers, and the slow thinkers (like myself), here's the essential post:

Quote:

Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
From Whedonesque;

All right, now I have to jump in and set the record straight. EW is a fine rag, but they do take things out of context...EW's always got to put some weird negative spin on it..."I'd love to do more in this 'verse with these actors in any medium"...





________________________________________________________________________
I wish I had a magical wish-granting plank.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:10 AM

CBY


I wonder if the timing of all this was planned... I see two possibilites:

A (the negative one)
This just might be the best marketing strategy to sell a DVD I've ever seen. They gave the "EW-panic" time to take effect - and suddenly Joss jumps in to save the day.

B (the positive one)
Universal and Joss are really suprised by the huge demand on the DVDs and Joss didn't like what EW did.

Regardless of which is true - we should keep our heads clear in any case.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:42 AM

ANDRE83


Okay, so I simply must agree that this definitely is the bestest post in a cat's age.



Thanks :D

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:51 AM

SAMEERTIA


ANDRE83!!!!
You made me splurt green tea all over my desk!


Perhaps you're right. Do we know any shady underground movements who can smuggle him out for the right price?

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:47 AM

ENGINEANGEL


lol at Joss's wonderful sense of humor and YAY!!! EW was lying ... again. stupid hoodons!
well all, stay shiny!
EngineAngel

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 8:09 AM

RIVERGODDESS


Haha! Green tea! I just 'splurted' chocolate milk everywhere! Thanks, Andre, that was flippin' hi-larious!

*~*~
Summer's response to Nathan getting his very own action figure:
"I tried to pull his head off."

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:20 PM

URSULA


Quote:

Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
I would love if this was all a ruse to buy back the rights from Fox. A few well placed comments in major publications about Joss not wanting to revive the show or the movie, and Fox realizes that they have a property on their hands worth nothing now. Someone comes by and says, "Let me take that off your hands, that now worthless property of yours.", and Fox sells it. Then, the mask comes off, and it's Joss!! Fox executives, in a stinging bit of irony cry, "Curse your sudden, but inevitable betrayal!", and we get our show back!




Would he have to wear a T. Rex mask?

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:48 PM

GUNRUNNER


I can’t help but think of ‘Susan’ from Mosquito
“Gorramit Cal you know I hate turnips!”

EV Nova Firefly mod Message Board:
http://s4.invisionfree.com/GunRunner/index.php?act=idx

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:22 PM

CHINDI


Andre83,,, BEST. POST. THIS. THREAD. AND. IN. A. LONG. WHILE.

Chindi wiping off her monitor

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:07 PM

RIVERBIRCH


"Any Medium" is good. Thank you... my brain is.... all morbid and creepifying due to the drugs.... I don't see fairies on the bridge yet though....


* I swallowed a bug *

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:12 PM

MYTURN


Everyone seems pretty upset about that little article at the beginning of EW, but I'm more pissed off about what comes towards the end of the magazine in the dvd review by Dalton Ross. He says that the bad news about the film is the story line and that its like a bottom shelf Schwarzenegger flick. The nicest thing he said about is that it was freewheeling! I'm a diehard Browncoat, but even I had my doughts when I first saw the movie. It easily was at the very insane least an A while Dalton just gives it a B. I personally give it an A+. EW gives Joss products good coverage, but then they go on to tell it's readers that Serenity is only as good as Dark Water and not as good as lesser sci-fi such as Harsh Realm & Farscape. Like the good Shepherd Book might say, "Coming from you EW, that means almost nothing."

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:25 PM

CYBERSNARK


Andre83, people like you are the reason I never eat or drink while reading this site.



-----
We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:41 AM

LEXIBLOCK


Quote:

Originally posted by CBY:
Quote:

Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
From Whedonesque;


Can somebody break down for me what this is supposed to mean? This guy speaks in other dimensions...



It means "go buy the DVD so i can make money"

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