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Sunday, December 26, 2021 12:35 AM

JO753

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I knew I wuz loozing my house and shop, so had a choise to make: Chorez in preperation uv moving, or 1 last project.

I pikt project!



Merry Krismas, everybody!

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Sunday, December 26, 2021 2:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh JO753! I'm so sorry to hear that you're being evicted! You've been there so long, surely your place is paid off by now!

What will you do now?
Where will you go?
What will happen to all of your tools and equipment?
I hope you have a plan.

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Sunday, December 26, 2021 4:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



JO, I hope things go well for you!

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Sunday, December 26, 2021 8:16 PM

JO753

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Happend alredy. All my stuff iz in storij. Been too bizzy to do much forum posting.

I am bleeding $$$ staying at hotelz.


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Sunday, December 26, 2021 10:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


There is an app here called Nextdoor. It's not quite like FB bc it's moderated and localized to specific neighborhoods. I've seen ppl find rooms to rent from hotel situation thru Nextdoor.
Maybe that's an avenue for you to try- I think Nextdoor is nationwide.

The fact that you've been evicted is going to put a black mark on your record. You'll need to come up with first month's rent, last month's rent, plus a security deposit.

How did you get in such a mess? I assumed bc you were spending so much time on your various projects that you had some sort of financial cushion, but I guess not.





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Monday, December 27, 2021 6:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Bummer.

Since you don't have a house tying you down in Illinois anymore, I recommend you flee to Indiana where you're not going to be cash raped by the state and local government.

Don't vote Democrat when you come here though. Otherwise Indiana will end up just like Illinois did.

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Monday, December 27, 2021 8:41 AM

THG



Hey JO753. Terrible news, sorry to hear it. Of all the posters here, you are one of the most good-natured that I’ve come across. You are also the one who exhibited the most talent and brain power. Your abilities, the ones you’ve exposed us to here, are in great demand. With the jobs market the way it is you should be able to bounce back very quickly if you focus. Something your video suggests you are not doing. Time to put the other verse you inhabit on the shelf for a bit. Suck it up and go for it buddy.

Best of luck


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Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:45 PM

JO753

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May hav a job alredy. Lots uv plasez are hiring and a frend called me this morning. He iz anxious about collecting a 3,000$ referal bonus.

I'm not enthuziastic about being an employee agen, but its better than nothing.

I'd rather be working on the preproduction UVPK prototype. If the gumit andor the bank had any sens, theyd giv me bak my hows, giv me 10,000,000$ and say sorry for the inconveniens.

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Tuesday, December 28, 2021 3:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You want your house AND $10 million?

Not sure of the logic there.


Is it too late to save the house?


Good luck with the job bud.

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Tuesday, December 28, 2021 6:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

I'd rather be working on the preproduction UVPK prototype. If the gumit andor the bank had any sens, theyd giv me bak my hows, giv me 10,000,000$ and say sorry for the inconveniens.
That's the fuzzy-headed kind of thinking that got you where you are.

There are a million things I'd rather being doing than what I'm doing now.

But ya gotta do what ya gotta do, not what you WANT to do. That's life, JO!


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Tuesday, December 28, 2021 8:06 PM

DREAMTROVE


the cube is levitating inside the tetrahedron by magnetism?

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Tuesday, December 28, 2021 10:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

I'd rather be working on the preproduction UVPK prototype. If the gumit andor the bank had any sens, theyd giv me bak my hows, giv me 10,000,000$ and say sorry for the inconveniens.
That's the fuzzy-headed kind of thinking that got you where you are.



Yeah... When I quit drinking I had to bury myself in that old project and I lost another year of my life to that. Better that than being dead, but I was still burning through the reserves and getting pretty low before I finally went out and got a job. Even when I had the job I spent nearly every moment of my free time working on that project instead of doing the house maintenance that had to be done. I reasoned that away by telling myself it was fine because I was building up my reserves again. But I still had no plan or desire to do the things that really needed to be done.

It was probably a blessing that I lost that job at the same time that I started having the structural damage and the raccoon family moved in. It was so many things at once that it was a shock to the system I needed. I was able to sever ties with that project and not revert back to drinking.


I can empathize with where JO's at. I think really talented people have brain hiccups and eccentricities that most normal folk don't have to navigate.

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There are a million things I'd rather being doing than what I'm doing now.

But ya gotta do what ya gotta do, not what you WANT to do. That's life, JO!



Yup. Sometimes you need life to give you a real good kick in the ass to figure that out.


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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:09 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
the cube is levitating inside the tetrahedron by magnetism?



No. Very fine wire.

The tiny replica haz a magnet in it so she can hold it.

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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:26 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You want your house AND $10 million?

Not sure of the logic there.



The lojik iz:

The pandemic iz costing the world trillionz uv dollarz. The gummit and the banks shoud hav an 'all handz on deck' attitude if they are serious about ending it. Bending the rulez a little to let krazy JO pursue this avenue uv attack mite be worth brushing that tiny bit uv lint that iz the my hows off the lejr. And tossing a few crumz my way coud make all the differens in the world.

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Is it too late to save the house?



Too late by ordinary meanz, but thats wut I'm saying - its an insignificant speck uv money. Trust fund punks throw away 150K$ on custom weelz for their Bugattiz without blinking.

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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:33 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:That's the fuzzy-headed kind of thinking that got you where you are.


Any mideval servant's dog can tell you its hard to keep digging in the dirt for grubz after youv seen the cornicopia on the king'z picnic table.

To me, the fuzzy thinking iz going on up at the top where they arent feeling any pain. yet.

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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You want your house AND $10 million?

Not sure of the logic there.



The lojik iz:

The pandemic iz costing the world trillionz uv dollarz. The gummit and the banks shoud hav an 'all handz on deck' attitude if they are serious about ending it. Bending the rulez a little to let krazy JO pursue this avenue uv attack mite be worth brushing that tiny bit uv lint that iz the my hows off the lejr. And tossing a few crumz my way coud make all the differens in the world.



The pandemic isn't costing the world trillions of dollars. The "cure" is. Nothing ever should have been shut down. Corona is not something anybody should be scared of.

They're going to milk this thing for all it's worth and do their best to drive everybody crazy in the meantime.

It's working.

Quote:

Quote:

Is it too late to save the house?



Too late by ordinary meanz, but thats wut I'm saying - its an insignificant speck uv money. Trust fund punks throw away 150K$ on custom weelz for their Bugattiz without blinking.




It's too late by any means then. Nobody's giving you that money.

My uncle and his kids are rich, and they virtue signal online all day long. But when my brother, their disabled nephew and cousin, hit rock bottom and had run out of money and was out on his ass, they didn't offer any help. And that's family.

If you wait for help from anyone, you're never going to get anywhere.



You need to get out of Illinois. Think about how much you've paid in extra taxes that could be sitting in your bank right now.

You're too brilliant to be out on your ass.

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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 12:04 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

6IXSTRINGJACK:
You want your house AND $10 million?
Not sure of the logic there.

JO753: The lojik iz:

The pandemic iz costing the world trillionz uv dollarz. The gummit and the banks shoud hav an 'all handz on deck' attitude if they are serious about ending it. Bending the rulez a little to let krazy JO pursue this avenue uv attack mite be worth brushing that tiny bit uv lint that iz the my hows off the lejr. And tossing a few crumz my way coud make all the differens in the world.

You STILL think, after everything that's happened, that banks are in the business of saving ordinary people like us?

You really think government is going to swoop in and save our collective sorry asses, and that they have ANY interest in helping us out, JO??

Banks are in business to bleed us dry, and politicians are in office to service their wealthy constituents while doing as little as possible (mostly mouthing empty promises) to keep us hoi polloi bamboozled.

Seriouly, dood, youve been operating on the wrong assumptions, not in the real world. Government has no interest in swooping in to save your sorry ass, and the vultures are circling. Mommy and daddy died a long time ago.

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SIX: Is it too late to save the house?


JO753: Too late by ordinary meanz, but thats wut I'm saying - its an insignificant speck uv money. Trust fund punks throw away 150K$ on custom weelz for their Bugattiz without blinking.

How do you suppose trust funds get built up, anyway? How do you suppose rich people get rich?
By being smart?
By working hard?
Nope!

By stealing houses from people like you.
You're too old to be this naive, JO. Time to get out of that comfortable illusion that you've been living in and get your head into the real world. It's a cold, hostile place, and the person who is going to protect your interests best is you.

In the meantime, while you're working "a job" try aiming a little higher.

Personal story- At one time, I was so dissatisfied with my job I looked into changing professions completely (into nursing. Not that I hated being an analyst, but my boss was -literally- a sociopath who pitted people against each other, and was a multiple hrrasser who would regale me with stories of sex and torture. I figured nursing would give me greater job opportunities.)

Anyway, so I went to a community college to ask about nursing courses, and a job counselor asked why I wanted to go into nursing and what my background was, and when I told her that I had a degree is chemistry she said, astonished ... "You've got to aim higher! With your degree, you could be a Nurse Practitoner or a doctor!"

So don't aim for an assembly-line job, or a delivery driver, JO. That'll get you by, but in the meantime, with your design experience maybe you could develop a job as an industrial (mechanical) design consultant: "We make your line run right!" or something like that.

Or even small-engine/motor repair. Anyone who can repair appliances, tools, and engines can run a thriving business.

You're a smart guy, you should use your talents and skills on real-world projects instead of wish fulfillment. Keep your eyes open for opportunity, even if you have to push your way in. IF YOU CAN DELIVER ON YOUR COMMITMENTS then people will be glad they hired you.



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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:24 PM

JO753

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No naivete going on here. America iz a jiant cattle ranch.

The slop in the gearz, the cracks in the structure are so big that a piffling 10,000,000$ can disappear without getting notist, so maybe sum disgruntled low level functionary who'z lost sumwun to C19 mite happen across my application and figure 'worth a shot.'

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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:26 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
No naivete going on here. America iz a jiant cattle ranch.

The slop in the gearz, the cracks in the structure are so big that a piffling 10,000,000$ can disappear without getting notist, so maybe sum disgruntled low level functionary who'z lost sumwun to C19 mite happen across my application and figure 'worth a shot.'

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Pipe dream. May as well have spent that $$ buying lottery tickets.

You can't base your future on that, and if that's your plan, better come up with a better one. One that has a higher chance of success. You see, I think you're still operating on the illusion that you'll get rewarded for being an out-of-the-box thinker.

You won't.


You get rewarded for being useful to someone with money. But the really big money goes to liars, thieves, and cheats.

If you want to reap the rewards of your work for yourself then start your own business. Just make it a money-making one, not a money pit with near- zero chance of success. Appliance repair. Whatever you're good at. One that generates an income, not just expenses.

Otherwise, every time SECOND comes up with his trope about how Trump supporters struggle to stay in the middle class, we can point to you as the fuzzy headed liberal who thinks he's going to be rescued by a system whose sole function is to rob him blind. Or who trusts to a near-zero chance of money falling on him from "somewhere".


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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 6:03 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, come up with a plan.

BTW I've seen a lot of small businesses start up from garages, storage units, and warehouse spaces. I know several labs that literally started in garages, catering that started in someone's kitchen, repair shops that started in a storage unit. There's a couple of successful shade tree car mechanics just around the corner from where I live. Gardeners who started with just a truck. Handymen.

Your area of expertise seems to be mechanical and electro-mechamical. You have a lot of the equipment already. Maybe instead of being a tinkerer you could springboard that into something useful that people would actually pay for, that you might enjoy - or at least tolerate- doing

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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 6:18 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I knew someone who thought he was so smart he would be rewarded just for being smart. (BTW he was far far smarted than Jo and Jack combined, and more talented, too.) He ended up living in his mom's MIL unit. Then one day he woke up to reality. 'If you're so smart, how come no one is paying you?' It was a hard fall from a 'high' place and he killed himself because he could no longer maintain his happy illusions about himself and the place he thought he deserved in the world.

JO, if you wake up, have a plan for what you're going to do with yourself with your new identity in your new reality.

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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 6:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


CUSTOM REPAIR AND FABRICATION.


WHAT you want to focus on is up to you! It could by anything from assembly line parts to antique toy train sets.

Just make sure it's something

a) you can do
b) in a timely fashion
c) that people will pay enough money for
d) so that you will make some $$

Don't forget to count your time as an expense. You need to formally "pay yourself" too. It won't work if you spend two days on a project and get only $20 after parts, space rental, and utilities.

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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 7:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I knew someone who thought he was so smart he would be rewarded just for being smart. (BTW he was far far smarted than Jo and Jack combined, and more talented, too.)



I doubt that very much, Karen.




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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:00 PM

JO753

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Thats low level.

The real realists bekum wite collar criminalz uv sum type. The low level wunz anyway. The really seksessful wunz get in on the legal crimez like hej fund manajer, bank executiv, insurans, Republican politician.

Haf way between tradezmen and thoze are crooked tradezmen. They make a good living over charjing sheepl with teknical problemz.

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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Keep pretending that your precious Democrat politicians aren't just as corrupt as the Republican ones.

Meanwhile, start practicing writing in English again. I can only imagine how years of writing in your language has damaged your ability to write coherently in the language that everybody you're ever going to work with and work for uses when you need to, and anybody seeing those mistakes is going to incorrectly assume that you're as stupid as Ted is.

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Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:46 PM

SIGNYM

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SIX will you please drop that childish name-calling from your repertoire? Otherwise I'm going to have to start calling you SUX.


JO753: You've eliminated without thought any possible avenue for you to get ahead, doing something you're good at.
Keep it up, buddy.
Pretty soon you'll be living in your car.

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Thursday, December 30, 2021 1:44 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Well, about the guy who killed himself - as a mutual friend said, "One day you just wake up and despair."

Hopefully JO will wake up, but with a plan for his new identity in his new world.

But to me, the fact that he still seems to think noalf is a world-beating brilliant idea after all these years of it going nowhere, doesn't bode well for his relation to reality.

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Thursday, December 30, 2021 8:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX will you please drop that childish name-calling from your repertoire? Otherwise I'm going to have to start calling you SUX.



Do we add hypocrisy to your repertoire now? Say it ain't so.

You've got more than enough pet names for people on this site yourself. You're just sore that I don't abide Karen's bullshit anymore.

Feel free to call me whatever you'd like.

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JO753: You've eliminated without thought any possible avenue for you to get ahead, doing something you're good at.
Keep it up, buddy.
Pretty soon you'll be living in your car.




I know this thread seems pretty rough to you here, JO.

I'm not being a dick to be a dick, and I can only assume that the same could be said for Sigs and Karen too.

I get the feeling that you haven't actually hit rock bottom yet, or at least you're in the state of denial. I haven't specifically gone through what you're going through now, but I've been through something adjacent to it. I also saw my brother go through it and make it out on the other end, while some of my friends from half a lifetime ago weren't as fortunate as us.


You've got to wake up, bud. I won't say that external forces weren't working against you (because they work against most of us), but until you admit to yourself that you ultimately are the one responsible for whatever situation you find yourself in now, you're not ever going to turn the ship around.

You are the only person you can really count on right now.

And you're more equipped than most to get out of that hole.

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Thursday, December 30, 2021 10:48 AM

JO753

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Wy duz everybody revert to blaming individualz wen thingz brake bad?

We do not liv in a perfect sosiety. Calling for conformity only helps perpetuate the flawz.

Reality eventually cachez up with nationz. Sivilizationz fall. Speciez go extinct. The bigger the flawz, the faster it happenz.

The groups we create begin to crumble wen its no longer an advantaj to be a member for the majority.

Look at the ded trade unionz. Wen the union duez and rulez became more uv a burden than a benefit they faded away.


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Thursday, December 30, 2021 10:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
the cube is levitating inside the tetrahedron by magnetism?



No. Very fine wire.

The tiny replica haz a magnet in it so she can hold it.

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curious if it could be done that way

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Thursday, December 30, 2021 11:41 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Wy duz everybody revert to blaming individualz wen thingz brake bad?

We do not liv in a perfect sosiety. Calling for conformity only helps perpetuate the flawz.

Reality eventually cachez up with nationz. Sivilizationz fall. Speciez go extinct. The bigger the flawz, the faster it happenz.

The groups we create begin to crumble wen its no longer an advantaj to be a member for the majority.

Look at the ded trade unionz. Wen the union duez and rulez became more uv a burden than a benefit they faded away.


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Even in failing states, and failed states... no, ESPECIALLY in failing and failed states... YOU HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF. Aint nobody gonna do it for you. Isn't that the very definition of failing states, failing cultures, and failing civilizations?

Now, I would say that our economy, and hence our society, is failing because of the insupportable level of parasitism by financial institutions, businesses, AND government (both parties) who cater to the oligarchs who feed them, writing rules that make this parasitism "legal", if ultimately self- destructive.

NONBODY COULD CALL ME A CONFORMIST.

And as thanks for my constant calls for reform

reining in the role of banks and financiers and debt
opting out of transnationalist/undemocratic "free trade" agreements
increasing and regionalizing production,
scaling back automation
and the MIC back to its original function of DEFENDING OUR BORDERS instead of being a gravy train for politicians, bureaucrats, Nothrup-Grumman and other dysfunctional weapons-systems "developers"
limiting immigration
remediating our environment (maybe put those ex-soldiers to work doing something more useful), adapting to global climate change, and reducing CO2 emissions

... all of which I consider to be both necessary and commonsense steps for our national survival

I've been relentlessly libeled as a Russian Troll (you too, JO. Thanks for the trolling -not!)

But at the same time, while I recognize the self-destructive drivers of our system and have spent my personal and professional efforts towards improving things..

I HAVE TO LIVE IN THIS FUCKED- UP SYSTEM. If that means working, saving, reducing expenses, taking care of the financial AND LEGAL matters that keep our family afloat, even being something of a prepper and growing vegetables and fruits, owning a gun And knowing how to shoot, basic first aid and supplies, canning and preserving stuff, keeping our insurances in order...

well, that's what I do. I love gardening, cooking, and healthcare. I hate legal paperwork, and paperwork of ANY kind. But I track our finances, track our premiums, watch our investments, deal with our lawyer and trustee, deal with the gubmint (taxes, benefits), help with home repairs... none of it fun, all of it tedious and full of uncertainty and worry. Still, it needs to be done.

So yeah - I agree with SIX- ya gotta wake up, JO753. Get your head in the real world. A failing system is no excuse, it should impel you to pay MORE afternoon, not less.

Or, not. It's up to you

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Thursday, December 30, 2021 2:04 PM

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Originally posted by JO753:
Wy duz everybody revert to blaming individualz wen thingz brake bad?



I'm not blaming you for our broken and corrupt system. It's broken and corrupt. You and I are going to disagree who's fault that is, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that it is broken and corrupt.

But it didn't happen overnight, and I've been preparing two decades for this. Not only did I see the writing on the wall at a young age, but I learned a great lesson on a personal level when I had a great job that was taken from me by external forces and corruption, leaving me out on my ass and having to move into my grandmother's house for 5 years, living in the basement with the two cats that pissed all over everything.

The system is broke. The system is corrupt...

But somehow, despite the fact that I spent nearly 5 years so drunk that I don't remember anything I said or did in that time, and despite the fact that including unemployment I've only made about $65,000 in the last decade, I'm not in any sort of financial trouble despite the financial troubles of the world right now due to world-wide corrupt and broke leaders running things from their corrupt and broken systems.

Those external forces we see now are not your fault. But failing to prepare at all for the rainy days we're in the middle of right now is.

I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for anybody who failed to prepare.

But my empathy for you isn't going to pay your bills. Nobody else is. What you do now is entirely in your own hands. Waiting around for somebody to swoop in and save you is only going to lead to a dead end for you. Metaphorically for sure... I can only hope not literally.

YOU are one of the most brilliant people I've known. If you can find a way to get over yourself, I have no doubt that you will be able to turn this around and focus on the things that mean something instead of wasting away your days worrying about the things you never had any power over.

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We do not liv in a perfect sosiety.


That's the understatement of the year. You'll get no argument from me.

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Calling for conformity only helps perpetuate the flawz.


Now I know you're not accusing me of conformity.

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Reality eventually cachez up with nationz. Sivilizationz fall. Speciez go extinct. The bigger the flawz, the faster it happenz.


None of this is your immediate problem right now. Your immediate problem is that you lost your house and your awesome workshop because you were focusing on this bullshit.

The world isn't ending. And even if it were, then we're all fucked. And there's nothing you or I can do about it.

YOU don't need to be failing at life right now. But you are.

Fuck the world, JO. YOU need to take care of YOU right now!

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The groups we create begin to crumble wen its no longer an advantaj to be a member for the majority.

Look at the ded trade unionz. Wen the union duez and rulez became more uv a burden than a benefit they faded away.




Any group. Any society. Any religion... No matter how GOOD they started out eventually rots from the inside. There is no example in history that proves otherwise.

At the end of the day, we all die alone.

For those lucky enough to have somebody in their life that they'd die for and to have that reciprocated, my hat's off to them. For the rest of us, our fate is what WE decide it is.

Ain't nobody going to help us except for ourselves.

Get back on the horse, buddy.

Of all the people in the world I should be worried about, you shouldn't be one of them.



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Friday, December 31, 2021 2:29 AM

JO753

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:YOU HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF. Aint nobody gonna do it for you.


The problem for me for at least 15 yirz haz been the size uv the det. Basicly insurmountable with ordinary wajez.

I tried to find oportunitiez with ZOL inc, but my fantastic antisalez talent prevented that.

Keeping an eye open for opportunityz haz helped. Az bad az it soundz, the pandemic iz an opportunity. I didnt make any money working on the UVPK project, but now I hav the info I need to make products. (az well az the ability to protect myself!) How much do you figure thats worth?

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Now, I would say that our economy, and hence our society, is failing because of the insupportable level of parasitism by financial institutions, businesses, AND government (both parties) who cater to the oligarchs who feed them, writing rules that make this parasitism "legal", if ultimately self- destructive.


I agree.

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NOBODY COULD CALL ME A CONFORMIST.


Not that I'm not conforming for the sake uv nonconformity, but I think I hav you beat on that count.

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reining in the role of banks ....
... all of which I consider to be both necessary and commonsense steps for our national survival



All uv wich iz fantasy wishful thinking pie in the sky. TPTB will never make any chanjez that redoos the flow uv $$$ into their pokets.

And your chanjez fail to adress the fundamental problem - too many peepl.

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I've been relentlessly libeled as a Russian Troll (you too, JO. Thanks for the trolling -not!)


Troll? I suspect you are much more substantial than that.

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If that means working, saving, reducing expenses....


All well and good, but still, how many opportunityz duz wun miss wile 'earning' your pay? The most valuable resors iz time. Trading it away and spending it persuing frugality can be a mistake.

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Get your head in the real world.


Wich wun? Look up:




or look down:




Thoze peepl at the bottom coud start wokking in any direction and end up in a better situation. But they are trapped in their view uv 'reality.'

Relativ to the peepl at the top, our middle class reality iz crap. Much closer to the bottom than the top.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 3:20 AM

JO753

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not blaming you for our broken and corrupt system...



Didnt say you were. Didnt say anybody wuz.

I'm saying the peepl hoo fall thru the cracks get blamed for not avoiding the cracks.

Wut if you see that the cracks are just too big? That avoiding them iz not going to work, so a waste uv time?

I'm not looking for sympathy here. I'm just showing wut I accomplished with the time I woud hav spent on very unremarkable chorez.

Anybody coud lojikly argue that I shoud hav spent the 6 weeks packing, looking for lojjingz, fixing my car.

True. But then it woudnt exist. Or, I shoud say, the tiny JENE woud still be just a crudely made trinket in a state uv disrepair.

And not being privvy to the future, I coud be ded in a week from any number uv cauzez. Then sum enterprizing yung Storaj Warz fan mite get hold uv my stuff, sell it to an art dealer who will hype it up and make a fortune.

Then in a hundred or a thouzand yirz the worldz formost authority on JO 753, looking into the rumor that he did 1 final project, will declare it utter poppycock. 'he wuz getting evicted frum hiz house. He had a dozen essential repairz to do on hiz beloved 72 New Yorker. The pandemic wuz ramping up agen. If anything, he woud hav upgraded the UVPK helmet. But, he simply had no time. Impossible.'

And yet, he'd be rong.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 9:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Man... You are truly an interesting character.

I can't really argue with your logic. At least not from where I'm sitting right now.

Stress is something I try to avoid these days at all costs. I already put enough of that on myself without worrying about things like bills and such. I'd much rather deny myself material pleasures that don't meaningfully fill any holes than slave away repaying debts.

I get the sense that you're not nearly as stressed about any of this as you probably should be. At this point, that's probably not a bad thing as long as you don't end up in a crack that you can never get yourself out of.


I get the "antisales" thing. People like us could probably use a partner with the gift of gab to take care of all of that stuff while we do the bulk of the work.



And you're right. There are way too many people. And even despite big scary virus out there, we've only grown in population over the last two years and will continue to do so.

That's a problem that isn't going to be solved until some monstrous external force beyond our control takes care of it.

But that doesn't' mean you just give up and let everything in your own microcosm fall apart. No sense in you being miserable while waiting for the inevitable to happen.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 10:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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YOU HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF. Aint nobody gonna do it for you.

JO753: The problem for me for at least 15 yirz haz been the size uv the det. Basicly insurmountable with ordinary wajez.

Your personal debt? How did you let it get so high? Weren't you keeping an eye on expenses v income over 15 years?? That's a lot of neglect on your part. You weren't sick, or taking care of someone who was, so what's your excuse? Frontal lobe defect? Personality disorder? Spoiled upbringing? "Smartest person in the family/school" disorder?

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JO753" I tried to find oportunitiez with ZOL inc, but my fantastic antisalez talent prevented that.
You tried once? And yet, how many tries did it take to make your anti-germ helmet, or any of the other trinkets that you worked on?

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JO753: Keeping an eye open for opportunityz haz helped. Az bad az it soundz, the pandemic iz an opportunity. I didnt make any money working on the UVPK project, but now I hav the info I need to make products. (az well az the ability to protect myself!) How much do you figure thats worth?
How much money has that made you, v how much did it cost? THAT'S how much it's "worth". Yes, learning is fundamental to improvement, but IN THE WORLD YOU LIVE IN, you need to translate that learning into money.

Hubby was kicked out of his middle-class home, had student debt, and started his adult life as a homeless mason's helper living in an abandoned farm and washing up in suburban sprinkler systems and restaurant bathrooms. Punch press operator. Solderer for GE. Along the way, bc of his avid interest in all things mechanical and electronic, physics, economics, and philosophy, and superior visualization skills, he learned motorcycle repair and worked as a motorcycle mechanic while auditing classes at night. Motorcycle (dirt bike) racing.

Then he taught himself electronics by reading technical specs for various transistors, gates, logic, analog devices, etc and became electronic shop supervisor for a university chem dept and became their DEC (and other computer) expert. Then was offered a job in CA and became the lead designer and fabricator of chem research equipment. Learned computers and built a PC and wrote a large part of the operating system b4 PCs were even a "thing". Designed and built a cluster PC for modeling, designed and built specialized high-speed data acquisition systems for laser spectroscopy along with high-speed CCD arrays and data processing and many other unique instruments. Worked for two Nobel Laureates. Maintained chem department servers.

Meanwhile, maintained a family and a house, avid racquetball player, learned woodworking, designed and built many pieces of furniture. He always did the best he could because he paid attention to how things REALLY work.

YOU could be that guy, JO753, you have the talent and smarts but you live in a fantasy world of how things "should be", where "someone" steps in tand takes care of you, not how things really are.

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SIGNY: Now, I would say that our economy, and hence our society, is failing because of the insupportable level of parasitism by financial institutions, businesses, AND government (both parties) who cater to the oligarchs who feed them, writing rules that make this parasitism "legal", if ultimately self- destructive.

JO753: I agree.

SIGNY: NOBODY COULD CALL ME A CONFORMIST.

JO753: Not that I'm not conforming for the sake uv nonconformity, but I think I hav you beat on that count.

I read your excruciatingly long platform. You are a tremendously ideologized DNC dupe who believes that the DNC can become another FDR-style administration. You even got taken in by the whole RUSSIA!RUSSIA! charade.

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SIGNY: reining in the role of banks ....
... all of which I consider to be both necessary and commonsense steps for our national survival

JOE753: All uv wich iz fantasy wishful thinking pie in the sky. TPTB will never make any chanjez that redoos the flow uv $$$ into their pokets.

Any you think your platform is any better??? It's just as much pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking, without even the benefit of an incisive analysis.

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JO753: And your chanjez fail to adress the fundamental problem - too many peepl.
Once living standards go up and women get an education, people stop having so many children. You can't get there by destructive bombing of a lrge part of the globe, and sucking foreign economies dry by paying off a corrupt comprador class.

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SIGNY: I've been relentlessly libeled as a Russian Troll (you too, JO. Thanks for the trolling -not!)

JO753: Troll? I suspect you are much more substantial than that.

Like???
I'm an American born and raised. SIX has my IP, as well as KIKI's, and the regional identifier tells him that we are where we say we are: in the LA area. But you can find that out for yourself on the map that Haken has so kindly provided.

I'm a THOUGHTFUL person who doesn't limit myself to polishing mental turds and sticking with old ideas. I read opinions and articles from all over the world. Spoken with environmental colleagues who came from all over the world. Confronted ideas that made me uncomfortable. Felt stupid lots of times. Changed my mind about a lot of things over my lifetime including the role of our government, the fragility of corporate-defined "efficiency", the corruption of the DNC, nationalism, and personal responsibility. I believe in solving problems, not sharing miseries with my fellow economic inmates just so the wealthy can accumulate more wealth. Or begging for crumbs that will never fall, just so the system can hobble along a little further without crushing me.

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SIGNY: If that means working, saving, reducing expenses....

JO: All well and good, but still, how many opportunityz duz wun miss wile 'earning' your pay? The most valuable resors iz time. Trading it away and spending it persuing frugality can be a mistake.

How many opportunites have you SQUANDERED while pursuing your pipe dreams? Then you cry that "the cracks are too big to climb out of"!
You haven't even tried!


JO753, there are people - like our daughter- who are brain-damaged. People who are just born stupid. People who are so badly educated and poorly socialized that they could be counted as "feral", and it would take a lifetime of remediation to correct a lifetime of bad habits. Drug addicts. People who are born on garbage dumps, in slums. in societies so poor they spend their entire lives just fighting to survive one more miserable day... and failing at a young age.

YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM. YOU ARE SELF-INDULGENT, YOU LIVE IN YOUR COMFORT ZONE (NOT THE REAL WORLD) BUT YOU'RE SMART ENOUGH AND INVENTIVE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE.

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SIGNY: Get your head in the real world.

JO753: Wich wun? Look up:
http://youtu. be/hPJHfbC7tCI
http://youtu. be/pHMGAShiw7w

or look down:
http://youtu. be/ipOeH7GW0M8
http://youtu. be/z_KAOD6IZmE

Thoze peepl at the bottom coud start wokking in any direction and end up in a better situation. But they are trapped in their view uv 'reality.'

AND SO ARE YOU.

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jo753: Relativ to the peepl at the top, our middle class reality iz crap. Much closer to the bottom than the top.
True, but that doesn't absolve you of the responsibility for your own life. If you don't do anything about it, stop complaining.

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The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/
More bullshit.
BTW, ZOL is a stupid company name. Guaranteed to get you near the bottom of an alphabetical listing. Just the same pie-in-the-sky impractical name that sounds "cool" to you and meaningless to anyone else bc it doesn't even describe what the company does.

You are too smart to be this stupid. You have a personality defect that you can correct by consistently paying attention to your finances. That would be a good start.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 4:07 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



JO, a lot of people are trying to help you by helping you change your mind.

I personally have no emotional investment in your welfare. So I'm not going to try.

Plus, I've seen the movie before. So I'm going to observe, to see if the things I learned from the first time around meaningfully apply to you.

These are simply my observations, and conclusions, and guesses.

The first time I saw the movie it was in someone who was far smarter and more talented than you.

And believe it or not, there are millions of people like you around the globe, and many people who are even smarter. So you're not as special as you might believe.

Anyway, I'll give you some examples of how smart this guy was. He would go into quantum physics classes and argue the professors in circles just for fun. He taught himself advanced electronics, designed and built his own modems, and hacked his way into large computer systems using a scavenged TV that he had repaired and modified as a monitor. Now, this was 40 years ago, before people even had a name for what he did. He designed and built his own 'blue box' - which used the control signals telephone exchanges used to communicate with other telephone exchanges - to call around the world, using any random store's telephone hookup and a spare car battery - for fun. Until he got bored with it a few months later. This btw is only a small fraction of the information spaces he mastered. A mention of a few others - hyperbaric work for the navy, certified scuba instructor; licensed ham radio operator; and certified pistol marksman. (Yes I knew the people who worked for the university doing the navy research, and so on. None of these things were scams or empty claims.)
And to give you an example of how talented he was, he had originally taught himself to play guitar by ear. But one day he rescued a broken upright piano from the curb, taught himself its mechanics and repaired and tuned it, and also modified it somewhat (hammer dope, key action, and other improvements). Then he taught himself to read music and taught himself to play piano by sight-reading music. And I'm not talking about simple tunes, his favorite composer was Scott Joplin because he enjoyed playing 'walking base lines'. He accomplished this in roughly 4 months, which btw I saw with my own eyes.

Anyway, he had a million 'reasons' and 'arguments' for why he did or didn't do the things he did or didn't do. But mostly they centered around that the world was messed up and he wasn't going to go along with it. And I also think he had the idea he was so smart people and businesses should have been grateful for his participation at any level, at any time, because his input was just so darned valuable. So they should have just paid him money.

But he couldn't keep a job. And he would have been homeless if it wasn't for his mom, who let him live in her what now would be called an ADU (accessory dwelling unit). Nevertheless, the last time I saw him he looked like he'd slept in the mud, he was pale and thin, he literally shambled when he walked (that's the only time the word shamble made sense to me), and he either had gone completely loony or he was tripping on something.

And he woke up one day, and despaired a permanent despair, that led him to eventually successfully take his life on the second try (his mom rescued him on the first).

That's the movie that I've seen.

So there are differences between him, and you, and Jack, the biggest difference is he was far smarter and more talented. But there are similarities as well. And one of them is the sense of entitlement to your own reality; coupled with a serious lack of reality-testing. Because - yanno - you're so smart you're always right. And you see from a height no one else does. And I know his very identity was centered around how smart he was; and an identity like that isn't something one gives up easily. Because once that's gone - that thing you have to defend yourself against the reality of your various failures and inabilities and bad decisions - what do you have left besides a busted ego and miserable reality?


Anyway, keep us posted as to how your movie goes. I'm curious about how it progresses.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 5:22 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I get it, JO753, you feel alienated from society. Perhaps you don't understand my tag line. Unfortunately, society- and reality- doesn't alienate itself from you.

Anyway I'll stop piling on.

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Friday, December 31, 2021 7:47 PM

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I think it's counter productive to insult JO about the situation he's gotten himself into.

I'm great at a lot of things myself, sure, but there are some things that come so easily and naturally to other people that I'd kill to be good at but probably won't ever be. Particularly, the social interactions that let one grab the world by the balls. That's just never been in my wheelhouse. I'm good with individuals and small groups, but I hate being around a large crowd and the idea of public speaking is just as terrifying to me today as it was when I'd barely sleep for two weeks straight in high school when I knew I had a speech coming up that I'd have to prepare and read in front of the class.


Finances are HARD for a lot of people. Even a lot of the smart ones. My mom and step dad should have retired with a million bucks or more after a life of working good jobs that they gave up to run their own business for 20 years, but neither of them knew shit about running a business and finance and wasted their nest egg keeping that place afloat, only to turn and sell the name they spent two decades making and all of his tools in the shop for a song.

I know that when I generalize about society and how stupid they are with money I can be very brash about it, but on an individual level I don't care to be so harsh. Particularly to somebody like JO who I like.

There's no doubt he's brilliant, but there's a blind spot with the cash there that has now become a big problem for him. It's becoming a big problem for a lot of people who didn't do right and save up a little for the hard times back when the money was easier to come by.



The real problem here is in the abstract there's no real way to argue his logic. Society is a shithole and run by corrupt people who spend every waking moment figuring how to fuck us little people over.

But we've still got it better than people who lost the lottery and were born in other countries. At least for now.



I spent too many years crying and bitching and moaning that life isn't fair. Of course it's not fair. It will never be fair.

But there is a way to find some balance and make it work for you.


You'll be okay, JO. Just get back on that horse buddy and start focusing on the things you need to do for yourself personally and stop worrying about the problems of the world.

They'll still be waiting for you when you get your head back on straight and you're back in action.



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Saturday, January 1, 2022 2:41 AM

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Thanks for the insites & opinionz.

About money:
Saw a homeless gi yesterday. Blak, 30z, 6ft, pushing a shopping cart on the tollway overpass hedded toward the big mall & shopping district. Most memorabl thot iz 'thats me in a month if my car diez.' Helped motivate me to complete the repair project I'v been working on for a week. (linked the subframe to the unibody with 2 x 2 skwer steel tube. It worked!)

Thinking about hiz sich - obviously not disabled, so I dont no wut gumit help he woud qualify for. Crime seemz like a cant looz option.

Sorry! Got a call! I'll leave you with this for now:



"slave to money then you die"

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 8:24 AM

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That's one of my favorite songs, JO.

But I opted out of being a slave to money, even though I still haven't figured out how to opt out of the death part.


I know we don't agree on the whole vaccine thing, but since most people are slaves to money the Government can essentially mandate that almost everybody get one by holding their jobs and lives hostage if they don't submit.

I'm in a position where I don't have to be brave to reject what they're forcing on anybody. At least not for a long time anyhow. Well... at least if the Bidenflation doesn't destroy the value of the money anybody has saved up so far.



Glad you were able to fix the car.


Hows the job lead? Have you looked into a new place to live that isn't the back seat of that New Yorker?

I used to have an early 80's model myself, so I know that back seat is like a mattress. But it doesn't have a shower.

You need to shower JO.

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:32 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Man... You are truly an interesting character.

I can't really argue with your logic. At least not from where I'm sitting right now.



Congrats for getting it. Seemz to be beyond ordinary peepl.

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Stress is something I try to avoid these days at all costs. I already put enough of that on myself without worrying about things like bills and such. I'd much rather deny myself material pleasures that don't meaningfully fill any holes than slave away repaying debts.


I havent had a credit card in 12 yirz. But I'm not good at being frugal.

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I get the sense that you're not nearly as stressed about any of this as you probably should be.


True. And it drives everybody nuts.

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I get the "antisales" thing. People like us could probably use a partner with the gift of gab to take care of all of that stuff while we do the bulk of the work.


I thot uv that back in the 90z. Unfortunately, I cant even sell that idea to salez oriented peepl!

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 5:30 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Your personal debt? How did you let it get so high?


Mostly kuz I dont spend alot uv time thinking about $. Its boring to me.

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JO753: I tried to find oportunitiez with ZOL inc, but my fantastic antisalez talent prevented that. SIG: You tried once?


No. Wut gave you that notion? I alwayz try. I usually fail. Most resently, you may hav notist my attempts to attract investment in the UVPK project. Maybe you missed the video and other mentions about the talented salez peepl making over 4,000,000$ with their bogus UV mask?

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JO753: ...but now I hav the info I need to make products. (az well az the ability to protect myself!) How much do you figure thats worth? SIG: How much money has that made you, v how much did it cost?


I spent about 13,000$ + alot uv time. But I didnt get C19 and get sick or die. I wajer that the survivorz woud gladly pay 5x that much to avoid getting sick agen. And the surviving family uv the ded woud pay anything.

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Hubby was kicked out of his middle-class home...Meanwhile, maintained a family and a house...


Soundz like he iz way more driven and enerjetic than me. I admit to having a significant lazy component to my personality.

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SIGNY: I read your excruciatingly long platform. You are a tremendously ideologized DNC dupe who believes that the DNC can become another FDR-style administration. You even got taken in by the whole RUSSIA!RUSSIA! charade.


You mean on the 7532020 website? There you go agen! You cant help yourself or its required by your bossez at the FSB.

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SIGNY: Once living standards go up and women get an education, people stop having so many children. You can't get there by destructive bombing of a lrge part of the globe, and sucking foreign economies dry by paying off a corrupt comprador class.


The living standardz/educated women thing duznt work. Increased living standardz = greater individual consumption. 1 American kid probably consumez 10x az much az a starving kid in Africa. Then he growz up, gets a car, a house & starts hiz own family.

Fase it! We are doomed unless we get a few more planets. And then, dum az we are, we will just overpopulate them.

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SIGNY: I'm a THOUGHTFUL person...


That duznt preclude being Russian. I repect you too much to beleev the alternativ idea that youv fallen for the Fox propaganda.

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SIG: How many opportunites have you SQUANDERED while pursuing your pipe dreams?


Wut classifyz az an opportunity iz very subjectiv. You shoud hav gotten a job at McDonaldz insted uv wasting so much time here! Youd hav another 100K$ in the bank now!


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SIG: The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/] More bullshit.


WU?! Its a better idea than inhaling jermz and hoping our immune system can handle them. Thats like eating dog turdz and taking a pill to make it taste good!

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BTW, ZOL is a stupid company name. Guaranteed to get you near the bottom of an alphabetical listing. Just the same pie-in-the-sky impractical name that sounds "cool" to you and meaningless to anyone else bc it doesn't even describe what the company does.


Now your just angry. If every comany relied on having a name that sumhow relates to the biz specialty, the world woud be a boringer plase.

Therez an insurans company named Garanteed Rate. Its like telling the world 'we hav 0 imajination and no real family or location name.' Its particularly crinj worthy kuz they bot a stadium and named it Garanteed Rate Field!!!!


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Saturday, January 1, 2022 10:20 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

JO, a lot of people are trying to help you by helping you change your mind.



The way sumwun thinks iznt the only factor in how well they are doing. Not even the major factor. Luck iz.

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I'll give you some examples of how smart this guy was...


I'v known several jeniusez. They werent all nonconformists, but they all liked to gripe about the flawz uv our society.

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Anyway, he had a million 'reasons' and 'arguments' for why he did or didn't do the things he did or didn't do. But mostly they centered around that the world was messed up and he wasn't going to go along with it.


You gotta respect that. If enuff peeps did that maybe we woudnt be living on a jiant cattle ranch.


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And I also think he had the idea he was so smart people and businesses should have been grateful for his participation at any level, at any time, because his input was just so darned valuable. So they should have just paid him money.


He wuz probably rite.

Maybe he wuz a victim uv bad parenting. Or bad schooling.

There wuz a jenius kid in my grammar skool hoo did no work but alwayz aced the tests. Every yir, the new teacher woud say 'not going to be tolerated in this class' without saying hoo, but everybody knew it wuz Keif Brumbach.

Then he got aksepted into the presteej hi skool, Lane Tech, along with a dozen less gifted students including me. He didnt last 6 months.

Rumor haz it he became a truck driver.

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Saturday, January 1, 2022 11:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNY: Your personal debt? How did you let it get so high?

JO753: Mostly kuz I dont spend alot uv time thinking about $. Its boring to me.

You think reality's requirements will adjust to your interests? That's why I went thru that whole description of doing shit I don't like: because it needs to be done. If you don't master money, it will master you. At THAT pint, you become a slave to it.

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JO753: I tried to find oportunitiez with ZOL inc, but my fantastic antisalez talent prevented that.

SIG: You tried once?

JO753: No. Wut gave you that notion? I alwayz try. I usually fail. Most resently, you may hav notist my attempts to attract investment in the UVPK project. Maybe you missed the video and other mentions about the talented salez peepl making over 4,000,000$ with their bogus UV mask?



Obviously, you need a different venue. Selling your helmet on a no- account website isn't going to work. Also, the helmet is clunky and confining. An N95 is more convenient, less restrictive, and a lot cheaper.

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JO753: ...but now I hav the info I need to make products. (az well az the ability to protect myself!) How much do you figure thats worth?

SIG: How much money has that made you, v how much did it cost?

JO: I spent about 13,000$ + alot uv time. But I didnt get C19 and get sick or die. I wajer that the survivorz woud gladly pay 5x that much to avoid getting sick agen. And the surviving family uv the ded woud pay anything.

wager all you want, but how much money did anyone actually pay for it? What would be a realistic sales price, do you think, given that the helmet is clunky and confining? $100?

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SIGNY: Hubby was kicked out of his middle-class home...Meanwhile, maintained a family and a house...

JO: Soundz like he iz way more driven and enerjetic than me. I admit to having a significant lazy component to my personality.

Not lazy. Unrealistic.

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SIGNY: I read your excruciatingly long platform. You are a tremendously ideologized DNC dupe who believes that the DNC can become another FDR-style administration. You even got taken in by the whole RUSSIA!RUSSIA! charade.

JO: You mean on the 7532020 website? There you go agen! You cant help yourself or its required by your bossez at the FSB.

Ok, I take it back: not unrealistic. Delusional.

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SIGNY: Once living standards go up and women get an education, people stop having so many children. You can't get there by destructive bombing of a lrge part of the globe, and sucking foreign economies dry by paying off a corrupt comprador class.

JO: The living standardz/educated women thing duznt work. Increased living standardz = greater individual consumption. 1 American kid probably consumez 10x az much az a starving kid in Africa. Then he growz up, gets a car, a house & starts hiz own family.

Fase it! We are doomed unless we get a few more planets. And then, dum az we are, we will just overpopulate them.

True, we need fewer people. But did you know that ONE space joy ride by one wealthy person emits more greenhouse gases than the lifetime emissions of the poorest billion people? Maybe if we eliminated profligate waste at the top we could get somewhere else.

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SIGNY: I'm a THOUGHTFUL person...

That duznt preclude being Russian. I repect you too much to beleev the alternativ idea that youv fallen for the Fox propaganda.

Being American precludes me from being Russian. I did grow up as a 1.5th generation Polack, so my outlook is a little different, but still American, with America's interests at heart. Even. SECOND, who knows who I am bc he had a PI investigate me, apologized for libelling me. I think you should square your thinking with reality.

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SIG: How many opportunites have you SQUANDERED while pursuing your pipe dreams?

JO: Wut classifyz az an opportunity iz very subjectiv. You shoud hav gotten a job at McDonaldz insted uv wasting so much time here! Youd hav another 100K$ in the bank now!

It's only an oppy if there's a possibility of a payoff. Where's your payoff?


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The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

SIG: More bullshit.

WU?! Its a better idea than inhaling jermz and hoping our immune system can handle them. Thats like eating dog turdz and taking a pill to make it taste good!

I wear a relatively cheap readily avait N95 and I haven't gotten sick. How is your product better?

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JO: BTW, ZOL is a stupid company name. Guaranteed to get you near the bottom of an alphabetical listing. Just the same pie-in-the-sky impractical name that sounds "cool" to you and meaningless to anyone else bc it doesn't even describe what the company does.

JO: Now your just angry.

No. Impatient.

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If every comany relied on having a name that sumhow relates to the biz specialty, the world woud be a boringer plase.

Therez an insurans company named Garanteed Rate. Its like telling the world 'we hav 0 imajination and no real family or location name.' Its particularly crinj worthy kuz they bot a stadium and named it Garanteed Rate Field!!!!

You think you're going to create a new movement all by yourself?

How well has THAT been going? Alienating people and being a horrible example of how you think ppl should behave, with all of the negative consequences of your delusions befalling you, is not exactly a banner for your cause!

SIX is a better example. If you don't want to be a slave to money, the trick is to be as independent and self-sustaining and more self-disciplined. If you pay attention to what you're doing with money and you have a cushion you can AFFORD to be independent. But if you don't, then you wind up HAVING to think about money all the time. It directs your thinking because you're dealing with the consequences all the time.




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Sunday, January 2, 2022 4:30 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Obviously, you need a different venue. Selling your helmet on a no- account website isn't going to work.



I tried the same platform az the LEAF mask scammerz - Indiegogo. Also GoFundMe and FundRazr.

Got kikt off Indiegogo for reporting LEAF to the FDA. Got no donationz on GoFundMe, probably kuz its geared for hi skool football teamz in need uv jerzyz and other assorted local cauzez. Made a little frum FundRazr, but far below the magnitude needed for a serious product development project.

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Also, the helmet is clunky and confining.


Thats wut the next staje uv R&D iz for! You cant juj based on a raw prototype. Besidez, it wuznt haf bad. The main problum wuz hearing anything with it on. I'd improved it alot with a better amplifier, but that added the hassle uv fussing with a cord, wich wuz part uv how I ended up rekking it.

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An N95 is more convenient, less restrictive, and a lot cheaper.
All factorz to consider wen youre life iz at stake.

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wager all you want, but how much money did anyone actually pay for it?


Sumwun did contact me trying to buy wun. I had to appolijize and explain they werent available yet, even for 5,000$

The crowdfunding idea soundz great, but peeps dont hav the patiense to wait, not realizing they coud eazily be in the same or worse situation in a yir or 2 or 5. With sertainty, there will eventually be another pandemic and therez no telling how long this wun will last or how bad it will get.

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Even SECOND, who knows who I am bc he had a PI investigate me, apologized for libelling me.


I'd like to see that.

Quote:

It's only an oppy if there's a possibility of a payoff.


100K$ iznt a payoff?


Quote:

I wear a relatively cheap readily avait N95 and I haven't gotten sick. How is your product better?


Nobody iz claiming the N95 iz 100% protection. Its better than the fase diaperz, but still heavily reliant on luk.

The UVPK product will be at or close to 100% protection.

Alot uv peepl try that 'haznt killed me yet' lojik to justify all sorts uv foolishness.

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You think you're going to create a new movement all by yourself?



Yes. Sumbudyz gotta do it.

Quote:

If you don't want to be a slave to money, the trick is to be as independent and self-sustaining and more self-disciplined. If you pay attention to what you're doing with money and you have a cushion you can AFFORD to be independent. But if you don't, then you wind up HAVING to think about money all the time. It directs your thinking because you're dealing with the consequences all the time.


True.

If I coud send myself a note back wen I wuz 18 or so, I woud say 'go to Wall Street, make a hundred million, then you can do all the tinkering and inventing you want.'

Unfortunately, I woudnt be the same me then. I woud not be developing my core talent, possibly at a crucial period.


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Sunday, January 2, 2022 7:06 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



JO, the real-life movie that I saw about the brilliant talented guy ended up with him unhealthy, schizophrenic-hallucinating or on drugs, living in his mom's spare place, unemployed, and eventually killing himself. If he was so right, why did the world not work the way he thought it should have? Why wasn't he getting money just for being smart, as he assumed he should? And most importantly, why did he kill himself?

Your quest to find a sugar-daddy/ patron might pay off, if you stumble across a very rich someone who just wants to see you happy tinkering away on nothing commercially viable. But that's not how it's worked in the past. Even Michelangelo and Da Vinci set to work on tasks given to them by their patrons, and weren't free to just to whatever they wanted. Mozart made his living selling commercially viable products (his operas). And finally Schubert worked as a schoolteacher by day, and Einstein as a patent office clerk. All of those creative, brilliant people knew they had to do something to keep body and soul together, whether pleasing patrons, selling products, or working day-jobs. So, while you may possibly run across your imagined sugar-daddy/ patron, I really doubt it'll happen.

Also, I don't think your helmet will ever be commercially viable. Basically, it comes down to cost, ease of use, and benefit. If, for example, people were shown to be infected through their eyes, then a more-inclusive barrier like your helmet might be warranted. But as it is, N95's are far cheaper, more comfortable and convenient, and just as protective - so as a mass-market product your helmet is out. But if you think it's good enough for technical use, BSL4 facilities already have that covered with moon-suits and independent positive-pressure air supplies. So your helmet isn't going to be sold in a technical-specialty market either. It doesn't offer anything new or more to this population-wide situation, or to the field of dealing with really bad pathogens.


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Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:11 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Even SECOND, who knows who I am bc he had a PI investigate me, apologized for libelling me.

Sorry but you're not important enough to me to investigate you. I save invasive techniques for people who could disturb my peaceful life when they go publicly crazy. The few times I've ignored someone's ugly and secretive personal life, I eventually regretted making deals with them. I should have gone with the higher bidder who was perfectly sane instead of the nutjob low bidder. There are so many horrific problems with crazy people that can spill over from their private life into their business deals. (One huge example: Donald Trump)

https://getcomics.info/other-comics/firefly-35-2021/


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Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:31 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI: If he was so right, why did the world not work the way he thought it should have? Why wasn't he getting money just for being smart, as he assumed he should? And most importantly, why did he kill himself?


1. Prezuming he did think the world shoud work in a particular way, the reazon it duznt iz kuz the PTB dont see an advantaj for themselvz.

2. Hard to beleev anybody woud think that. The system clearly rewardz peepl for having money. Its the fundamental function.

The worst crime iz to be poor.

3. Maybe he figured out an excuse to justify suiside. Wun uv the problemz with really smart peepl iz that they can alwayz think up sum complicated chain uv lojik to suport their prefered beleef.

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Your quest to find a sugar-daddy/ patron might pay off,


Sugar daddy? HA!

You dont seem to hav a notion uv how much money iz sloshing around way up there out uv reach for us ordinary peepl. Or just the amount uv spare money us ordinary sitizenz hav lying around.

If everybody in the US dropped a dime into the UVPK project I coud hav product for sale in 6 months. (unless the regulatory ajensyz get in the way)

Alternatively, a small group uv investorz or a single "sugar daddy" coud see the potential and provide the money. Or Uncle Sam.

In any case, its wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy less than wut haz been lost alredy.

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Also, I don't think your helmet will ever be commercially viable.


Thats part uv wut a proper R&D project works on. Unfortunately, the louzy to nonexistant R&D prosess at most companyz theze dayz woud probably screw it up. Thats part uv why I want to do it.

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But as it is, N95's are far cheaper, more comfortable and convenient, and just as protective


Cheaper only, and thats prezuming they actually prevent you from getting sick. Take it from the only person hoo haz worn the helmet - it iz comfortable and convenient. Better than the elastic bandz and unreliable fit uv the N95z I'v been wearing.

The fase diaperz are eazy to put on. Thats why most peepl prefer them and most uv the reuzable masks uze ear bandz insted uv around the hed bandz like the N95z uze.

The actual production units I will make will be az eazy to put on az a hat and comfortable enuf to forget you are wearing them.

Dont forget, I just uzed a standard motorsycle helmet for the proof uv consept prototype. It alredy haz decadez uv refinement bilt into it for comfort and conveniens. And yet, kuz the UVPK duznt need to keep your noggin from cracking from falling off a motorsycle at 60mph, it can be way liter and less bulky.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:40 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Even SECOND, who knows who I am bc he had a PI investigate me, apologized for libelling me.

Sorry but you're not important enough to me to investigate you.



HA! So it wuz a total fabrication!

Siggy, Siggy, Siggy.

Funny and sad.

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