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I know this doesn't really belong here but... favorite songs!

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Friday, March 12, 2021 10:47 PM

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PNETATONIX Carol of the Bells
http:/ /youtu.be/WSUFzC6_fp8

PENTATONIX Radioactive (cover)
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KANSAS Dust in the Wind
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BRAID (videogame) Maenam
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2 CELLOS Smooth Criminal
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Saturday, March 13, 2021 1:26 PM

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Saturday, March 13, 2021 1:59 PM

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Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?




Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles

Downtown - One 2 Many

When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya

Seventeen - Chris LeDoux

No Roots - Alice Merton

Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart

Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade

Holiday - Madonnas


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Saturday, March 13, 2021 3:57 PM

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Oh, I really like "Walking in Memphis"!

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Saturday, March 13, 2021 6:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Pentatonix... I can dig it.






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Saturday, March 13, 2021 6:59 PM

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This guy is French Canadian.


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Saturday, March 13, 2021 7:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It's too hard for me to slim my list down to even a few favorite songs. It's not like I haven't littered this forum with good music in between barely coherent posts back in the day. ;)

Here's one I don't think I posted here before though. I actually forgot it even existed until I accidentally stumbled over it on YouTube a few months ago and found myself hitting repeat on it quite a few times.

Odd little song that just makes me smile whenever it pops up on my mp3 rotation.






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Saturday, March 13, 2021 7:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade



Janet had a few bangers.

I think my favorite was Together Again.





Michael Jackson played a lot of video games and was a huge fan of Sonic the Hedgehog. It's why certain beats in the Sonic games back during the Genesis days are also found in some of both Janet and Michael's music at the time.

Thought it was real cool to see somebody make a Sega Genesis version of Together Again. Totally would have fit in the game as a legit Sonic song.




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Saturday, March 13, 2021 10:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?




Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles

Downtown - One 2 Many

When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya

Seventeen - Chris LeDoux

No Roots - Alice Merton

Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart

Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade

Holiday - Madonnas


Not familiar with any of them, but if I can find them I'll give them a listen and tell you what I think.

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Saturday, March 13, 2021 10:38 PM

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SIX: Oh yeah! It makes a totally legit Sonic song!

Nice!

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Saturday, March 13, 2021 10:43 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



These to me are musically and poetically intriguing.

Kashmir - Led Zeppelin



Dream On - Aerosmith




And this just brings back vivid memories of time at the beach.

Boys of Summer - Don Henley




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Saturday, March 13, 2021 11:34 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?




Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles

Downtown - One 2 Many

When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya

Seventeen - Chris LeDoux

No Roots - Alice Merton

Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart

Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade

Holiday - Madonnas


Not familiar with any of them, but if I can find them I'll give them a listen and tell you what I think.

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SIG, "Knock on Wood" is a disco song. I have it on tape.

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Saturday, March 13, 2021 11:36 PM

BRENDA


"Boys of Summer" is a good one Kiki.

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Saturday, March 13, 2021 11:37 PM

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Sunday, March 14, 2021 12:26 AM

SIGNYM

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Generally I don't like any song about "love" because the lyrics are such a disappointment.

But I like the SOUND of "Love Is". I found myself nodding my head and tapping my foot to the music. Has what I think of as girl-power rock sound. Joan Jett. Pat Benatar. Great voice, band plays well together, nice tempo, not overproduced. I like!

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Sunday, March 14, 2021 1:20 PM

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Going thru the list;

"Downtown" as in ... Petula Clark? Yeah, I like that,too!

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"Boys of Summer"... another song about love, but I really like the way it SOUNDS.

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Sunday, March 14, 2021 1:39 PM

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SIX: you like alt bands? How about

Starsailor "Some of us"

http: //youtu.be/g7k1rWZQbbU

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Sunday, March 14, 2021 1:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hard to hate on Henley.

I love the lyrics for End of the Innocence.

Still can't post the studio video. After all these years nothing can stop Don from keeping his music off of youtube.


Quote:

Remember when the days were long
And rolled beneath a deep blue sky
Didn't have a care in the world
With mommy and daddy standing by
When "happily ever after" fails
And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers dwell on small details
Since daddy had to fly

Oh, but I know a place where we can go
Still untouched by man
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
And the tall grass waves in the wind
You can lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

O' beautiful, for spacious skies
But now those skies are threatening
They're beating plowshares into swords
For this tired old man that we elected king
Armchair warriors often fail
And they've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers clean up all details
Since daddy had to lie

Oh, but I know a place where we can go
And wash away this sin
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
The tall grass waves in the wind
Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair spill all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

Who knows how long this will last
Now we've come so far, so fast
But somewhere back there in the dust
That same small town in each of us
I need to remember this
So baby, give me just one kiss
And let me take a long last look
Before we say good bye

Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence



A lot deeper than your typical love song. And really not about love so much as seduction possibly leading to a one night stand.


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Sunday, March 14, 2021 2:00 PM

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A lot deeper than your typical love song. And really not about love so much as seduction possibly leading to a one night stand.


I think what Henley lyrics really paints are intense scenes about places and moments. End of summer, the empty beaches and lakes. Empty fields, people captured by evil dreams. Lyrics not JUST about seduction, but I feel the protagonist in that song had a ather who went away to war ("fly") and died, and that he, too, will be going away to war soon, too, ending HIS innocence.

Plus, I like his voice. And the instrumentals don't overpower that.

*****

Having all of two(!) lyrics to analyze, I think Henley (if he wrote his own lyrics) paints his pictures by contrast.

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Sunday, March 14, 2021 2:07 PM

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Can't let Kashmir and Dream On go by without a mention: I really like them, too.

Kashmir has that really interesting progression that almost sounds like something out of those old spy-show theme songs, but this song is totally not that.

Dream On has the same "sound", to me, as Henley (altho Boys of Summer has a faster tempo) and also America, but the Aerosmith lyrics are much more interesting than (say) A Horse with No Name.

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So, BRENDA, I've sampled some of your picks. You seem to like "outlaw/outsider" songs?

I could never appreciate Elvis bc he became famous when I was young, and I know he was trying to look sexy but at that age "sexy" didn't mean much to me, all I could see was the sneer. Big turnoff. Funny, but I think Billy Idol was a lot the same, but more extreme.

What do you think of Johnny Cash? He's my favorite in the "outlaw/outsider" category.

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Sunday, March 14, 2021 2:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, BRENDA, I've sampled some of your picks. You seem to like "outlaw/outsider" songs?

I could never appreciate Elvis bc he became famous when I was young, and I know he was trying to look sexy but at that age "sexy" didn't mean much to me, all I could see was the sneer. Big turnoff. Funny, but I think Billy Idol was a lot the same, but more extreme.

What do you think of Johnny Cash? He's my favorite in the "outlaw/outsider" category.

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As I said my mom liked Elvis since I was very small and I have seen the film "Flaming Star" which is the only Elvis movie I like as he doesn't sing in it. There aren't many Elvis songs that I "like" but that is one of them.

I like a few Canadian artists too like Roch Voisine. Colin James, Susan Aglukark, Kashtin. I'll see later if I can did any of them up.

Stumbled across Los Lonely Boys a number of years ago and like some of their stuff.

Johnny Cash another one I grew up listening too. Both my parents seemed to like him. I can take him or leave him.


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Sunday, March 14, 2021 5:07 PM

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The song I was trying to post is called "One Piece at a Time"

It's about a guy moving from Kentucky to Detroit.

Lyrics for "One Piece at a time"

Well, I left Kentucky back in '49
And went to Detroit workin' on the a 'sembly line
The first year they had me puttin' wheels on Cadillacs
Everyday I'd watch them beauties roll by
And sometimes I'd hang my head and cry
'Cause I always wanted me one that was long and black

Chorus
I'd get it one piece at a time and it wouldn't cost me a dime
You'll know it's me when I come through your town
I'm gonna ride around in style, I'm gonna drive everybody wild
'Cause I'll have the only one there is around

One day I devised myself a plan
That should be the envy of most any man
I'd sneak it out of there in a lunchbox in my hand
Now gettin' caught meant gettin' fired
But I figured I'd have it all by the time I retired
I'd have me a car worth at least a hundred grand

So the very next day when I punched in
With my big lunchbox and with help from my friends
I left that day with a lunch box full of gears
I've never considered myself a thief
But GM wouldn't miss one little piece
Especially if I strung it out over several years

The first day I got me a fuel pump
And the next day I got me a engine and a trunk
Then I got me the transmission and all the chrome
The little things I could get out in my big lunch box
Like nuts an' bolts, and all four shocks
But the big stuff we snuck out in my buddy's mobile home

Now, up to now my plan went all right
Till we tried to put it all together one night'
And that's when we noticed that something was definitely wrong
The transmission was a '53 and the motor turned out to be a '73
And when we tried to put in the bolts all the holes were gone

So we drilled it out so that it would fit
And with a little bit of help with an adapter kit
We had that engine runnin' just like a song
Now the headlights was another sight
We had two on the left and one on the right
But when he pulled out the switch all three of 'em come on

The back end looked kinda funny too
But we put it together and when we were through
Well, that was when we noticed that we only had one tail-fin
About that time my wife walked out
And I could see in her eyes that she had her doubts
But she opened the door and said, "Honey, take me for a spin."

So we drove up town just to get the tags
And I headed her right on down main drag
I could hear everybody laughin' for blocks around
But up at the court house they didn't laugh
'Cause to type it up took the whole staff
And when they got through the title weighed sixty pounds

Uh yow, Red Ryder, this is the Cotton Mouth
In the Psycho-Billy Cadillac come on, huh, this is the Cotton Mouth
And negatory on the cost of this mow-shine there Red Ryder
You might say I went right up to the factory
And picked it up, it's cheaper that way
Uh, what model is it

Well, it's a '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55,
'56, '57, '58, '59 automobile
It's a '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70 automobile

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Sunday, March 14, 2021 8:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?




Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles

Downtown - One 2 Many

When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya

Seventeen - Chris LeDoux

No Roots - Alice Merton

Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart

Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade

Holiday - Madonna


Not familiar with any of them, but if I can find them I'll give them a listen and tell you what I think.

If you have problems finding, post so.

One 2 Many was recorded the same stuio as ABBA. I'm not aware of any Petula Clark connection. I thought the entire album was original work - and I would play the entire album, on repeat, endlessly.
Come downtown, in the city theres a lot of fun...
vocalist Camilla Griehsel, before she married and became opera singer.

Alannah, Saraya (both albums), Madonna I loved the whole album, but those cuts were more popular.

Chris has more than 40 albums, 5 or 6 hits or compilations, and I love many of them. Little Long-haired Outlaw, Hooked On an 8-Second Ride, Born In Mississippi, Wild and Wooly.

I should have included Addagio For Strings by Samuel Barber.

I think also a title "Baja 1000" by Michael Nesmith. No lyrics.


eta: I personally own over 1,000 CDs (as of 1999), and quite a few 12" singles.

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Sunday, March 14, 2021 9:43 PM

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A lot deeper than your typical love song. And really not about love so much as seduction possibly leading to a one night stand.


I think what Henley lyrics really paints are intense scenes about places and moments. End of summer, the empty beaches and lakes. Empty fields, people captured by evil dreams. Lyrics not JUST about seduction, but I feel the protagonist in that song had a ather who went away to war ("fly") and died, and that he, too, will be going away to war soon, too, ending HIS innocence.

Plus, I like his voice. And the instrumentals don't overpower that.

*****

Having all of two(!) lyrics to analyze, I think Henley (if he wrote his own lyrics) paints his pictures by contrast.



"all of two lyrics"? I'm not sure I get that statement?

I think you paint a lot nicer picture of what Don meant when he wrote the song.

(And take wikipedia with the grain of salt it deserves, but in the case of Don Henley I do believe he wrote most if not all of his music. He's FIERCELY protective of all of it): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Don_Henley


I always took "The End of the Innocence" to mean the first time she had sex. So not only a song about seduction, but a song about the seduction of a young virgin woman.

And not a creepy (age inappropriate) or rapey seduction either. I imagine he's a bit older and "wiser" from the street smarts picked up from being a musician on the road all the time, but it's not some Harvey Weinstein type abuse of power. His "character" in the song is loosely based off of himself... somebody who's "loved" a lot of women, but never actually been IN love, and doesn't even really believe in the idea of love. She, on the other hand, is still a young and pure idealist who still believes in fairy tales and happily ever after, despite the fact that she already told him that her dad cheated on her mom and left. Perhaps a small town Christian girl who is saving herself for marriage, or at least until she can find what she believes will be the one true love she will eventually marry.


I think the song lyrics deserve a bit of a breakdown.

Quote:

Remember when the days were long
And rolled beneath a deep blue sky
Didn't have a care in the world
With mommy and daddy standing by
When "happily ever after" fails
And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers dwell on small details
Since daddy had to fly



The start of the song here I pretty much summarized in who the girl being seduced was above. Happily Ever After failed, and it's inevitable because the fairy tales we're told when we grow up aren't real and life will let you down, just like when her father made a bad decision that changed her family forever.

Quote:

Oh, but I know a place where we can go
Still untouched by man
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
And the tall grass waves in the wind
You can lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence



The chorus, which is worded slightly different every time, is an allegory for sex. Although he just thinks of it as a most pleasurable act and would consider it just "sex" or even lewder terms, he knows that she would be mortified if he did, so he charms her with his poetic talents. "Give up. Give in. This is the end of the innocence. And that's a good thing... trust me."

Quote:

O' beautiful, for spacious skies
But now those skies are threatening
They're beating plowshares into swords
For this tired old man that we elected king
Armchair warriors often fail
And they've been poisoned by these fairy tales



I never took this to mean he was going to war himself, which is what I think I see that you have done when you heard the song. I felt that along with being street smart as a well traveled musician, he was also very well read both in terms of history and in current events. There's always war, and he knows it. She's still young and sheltered enough to believe that things were good before and though she's old enough to realize how bad the stuff on the news is currently as she takes her first real steps into this scary world without "mommy and daddy standing by", she's still naive enough to believe that things in her short life were better in the world until she had that revelation. Not because she's dumb, but because she's still certain that the world revolves around her as most young adults still do.

Quote:

The lawyers clean up all details
Since daddy had to lie



Daddy had to fly is now changed to daddy had to lie. "Fly" alone could have been allegorical to dying in a war overseas, but now coupled with "lie" I believe this to be referring to the court battles that took place after he cheated on her mom.

Quote:

Oh, but I know a place where we can go
And wash away this sin
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
The tall grass waves in the wind
Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair spill all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence



Only real difference in the chorus this time is "wash away this sin".

He doesn't believe that premarital sex in and of itself is a sin. In fact, he believes that by engaging in it you can wash away the sins of the world. Or at least, that's what he's trying to convince her it will do.

Quote:

Who knows how long this will last
Now we've come so far, so fast
But somewhere back there in the dust
That same small town in each of us
I need to remember this
So baby, give me just one kiss
And let me take a long last look
Before we say good bye



He knows how long this will last, but he doesn't want her to know yet. It's already over. He knows he's about to break her heart, like he's done dozens or perhaps hundreds of times before while on the road.

At this point, he might be even lying to himself that one last kiss will be a reminder of this. In an age before cell phone cameras and Instagram, there will be no real memory for him of their encounter beyond being just one in an ever growing ocean of similar encounters he's had and knows he will continue to have. It might even pain him a little bit down deep inside that he knows that she'll remember it for the rest of her life and a month from now he'll struggle even to recall her name. He probably hopes that for her it will be a good memory, but realizes that he has just taken something from her that nobody can ever give back.

Quote:

Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence



The last half chorus could be just because that's how most songs are structured. Or perhaps he's ready to do it it again before he leaves to go back on the road and never call her again.




I dunno. That's just how I interpreted the lyrics.

I'm not one to listen to all the stories and put a ton of stock in them, particularly when it comes to sexual escapades, but Don broke a lot of hearts in his day.


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Sunday, March 14, 2021 9:50 PM

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I never thought end of innocence was about sex or physical sense, and certainly don't now.


tired old man we elected king was Reagan

Isn't this the same album as Dirty Laundry? Same vein, anyhow.

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Sunday, March 14, 2021 9:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I never thought end of innocence was about sex or physical sense, and certainly don't now.



That's fine. That's what music is about. And it's great songs like End of the Innocence that people still reflect on and debate about the meaning decades after they were on the top of the music charts.

I don't think this song had anything at all to do with politics, and they were just a mere backdrop for a short, intimate encounter between two people.

Just because Don was capable of writing politically charged songs like Dirty Laundry doesn't mean that every song he ever did was politically charged.




I also don't think that the "tired old man we elected king" was specifically Reagan. Not just because it was GHW Bush that was president when the song was released either. I think that line is simply referring to whoever we had elected as president, which up to that point had almost exclusively been tired old men. This song is timeless. The fact the song came out 5 months after Bush was elected and could be applied to either Bush or Reagan can make you take a step back and realize that any kid who's ever listened to it in the decades that followed could apply it to the president that was currently in office while they were discovering the world for themselves.

The only argument against that could perhaps be a young-ish Obama, but that's only from the perspective from adults such as us who realize that he wasn't exactly "old" when he was elected... to kids and teenagers he would still seem like an old man. And he sure aged a lot in 8 years.


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Sunday, March 14, 2021 10:14 PM

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Let me ask you, JSF. What, specifically, do you think the line "offer up your best defense" means?


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Sunday, March 14, 2021 10:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Another thing I find extremely interesting is when you mishear lyrics to a song you have loved for a long time and finding out what the real lyrics are either force you to deny them or to change in your own mind and heart what the song meant.

I possibly have had that moment right now when looking at another favorite of mine.



Quote:

t's hard to rely on my good intentions
When my head's full of things that I can't mention
It seems I usually get things right
But I can't understand what I did last night

And it's hard to rely on my own good senses
When I miss so much that requires attention
Have to laugh at myself sometimes
And I can see that I'm not blind

There's little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
For all the things I've left behind
I'm positive that I'm not blind

I'm not afraid things won't get better
But it feels like this has gone on forever
You have to cry with your own blue tears
Have to laugh with your own good cheer

And it's hard to rely on my good intentions
When my head's full of things that I can't mention
It seems I usually get things right
But I can't understand what I did last night

There's little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
And imagining the world outside
I'm positive that I'm not blind

I can't be hard on you
'Cause you know I've been there too
Learned a lot of things from you

Oh, when life gives little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
And when everyone is cold as ice
I clinch my fists and close my eyes
Imagining the world outside
And I can see that I'm not blind




Only I've never heard those lyrics and still don't when I listen to the song.

Specifically:

Quote:

There's little relief
Give us reprieve, oh



I've always heard...

This little release
Give us a brief... Oh!




Yeah... I know. Sex again.

But just swapping those two lines out changes the tone of the song.


It's not as if my lyrics for the song have to be "what he did last night" that he can't understand. It sounds like he's very confused about life in general at this point and he feels he's making a whole lot of bad decisions without the need for a one night stand, possibly with a friend he'd never have had sex with while sober, being another mistake added to the pile.

But the "known" lyrics posted on the internet really seem to fail when it goes to the chorus the final time here:

Quote:

I can't be hard on you
'Cause you know I've been there too
Learned a lot of things from you

Oh, when life gives little relief
Give us reprieve, oh



The underlined part is completely wrong. There is no "when" at all, and you can clearly hear the "eese" sound at the end of what they claim to be "relief".

And "learned a lot of things from you" could imply that he was also a virgin himself before getting drunk and doing something with a friend he regrets. He's letting her know he's not mad at her that it happened, he values their friendship and he hopes that they can get past this and still be friends without it being weird.

I've seen several websites that post the lyrics above, but I still hear the ones I've always heard when listening to the song. Until I find something official, such as the possibility of lyrics written on the inside of a CD jacket, I'm going with the ones I've always heard.




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Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:39 PM

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So, believe it or not, SIX, but I know NOTHING about Henley. Altho I can remember melodies and sing along with songs that I like, I generally don't remember titles or artists or ... anything. So I dip in and out of listening to music and there are whole decades that I don't know anything about.

But having looked up a couple more songs ("Heart of the Matter" and others) he's a lot more POLTICAL and philosophical than I think you give him credit for. There's a lot on that song about beating plowshares into swords and evil men making war to get elected, and I don't think he put those in there by accident.

Edited to add: I think the end of innocence isn't when its violated. The real end of innocence is when you knowingly participate in something you think is wrong.

I feel like the song is an allegory. Needs some thought.

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Monday, March 15, 2021 12:10 AM

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Monday, March 15, 2021 2:28 AM

JONGSSTRAW


I knew Morgan Freeman could play God .. or The President .. but who knew he could sing?






And he's not too shabby on the cowbell either!

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Monday, March 15, 2021 3:58 AM

SIGNYM

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Who knew???
God* sings and plays the cowbell!

*As played by Morgan Freeman.

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Monday, March 15, 2021 9:50 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, believe it or not, SIX, but I know NOTHING about Henley. Altho I can remember melodies and sing along with songs that I like, I generally don't remember titles or artists or ... anything. So I dip in and out of listening to music and there are whole decades that I don't know anything about.

But having looked up a couple more songs ("Heart of the Matter" and others) he's a lot more POLTICAL and philosophical than I think you give him credit for. There's a lot on that song about beating plowshares into swords and evil men making war to get elected, and I don't think he put those in there by accident.

Edited to add: I think the end of innocence isn't when its violated. The real end of innocence is when you knowingly participate in something you think is wrong.

I feel like the song is an allegory. Needs some thought.

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I wasn't trying to insult him. Between his own songs and those he wrote for the Eagles, he's got some brilliant writing, very much including End of the Innocence.

I think he pulled an M Knight Shamalyan on you and JSF. You expect it to be political given his body of work so you assume that it is because of some words that pop up here and there in the song.

The politics are just the backdrop. There's a girl who's parents just split, who's just realizing how terrible the world is out there, and Don ('s character) is offering her reprieve. "A place where we can go, still untouched by man". He's telling her that "happily ever after fails and we've been poisoned by these fairy tales" and then offering her up one of his own.

I'll ask you the same question I posed to JSF last night... How else do you explain the line "Offer up your best defense?"

There's no way you can make that line fit with Defense spending and the Military Industrial Complex.



I could be off base about it being an artist seducing a virgin into a one night stand. But the song is very much about sex.








In any event, I'd put "End of the Innocence" on the top list of hilariously bad song choices for wedding. Somewhere right in between "Every Breath You Take" by the Police and "Hey Ya!" by Outkast.






Even Andre 3000 from Outkast came out and said that it was a terrible choice to play at a wedding, even though it was on every wedding playlist at the time. I read a great article where he was laughing about weddings with old white ladies dancing to lyrics like "Don't want to meet your Daddy, just want you in my Caddy. Don't want to meet yo mama, just want to make you comma."


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Monday, March 15, 2021 7:49 PM

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I found out End of the Innocence was not the same album as Dirty Laundry.

EoTI was released mid-1989. Recorded in 1987. Last single was released in 1985. So EoTI was likely written, composed in 1984, 85, 86, and/or 87.
Bush41 was not President.

I can see 6ix is stuck with sex on the brain.

I realized that I have never heard anybody imply or suggest that that song had anything to do with sex, or any physical sense.

Henley considers the Innocence to be the war years of LBJ, Carter, drug haze days of the 60s and 70s.

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Tuesday, March 16, 2021 1:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I found out End of the Innocence was not the same album as Dirty Laundry.

EoTI was released mid-1989. Recorded in 1987. Last single was released in 1985. So EoTI was likely written, composed in 1984, 85, 86, and/or 87.
Bush41 was not President.

I can see 6ix is stuck with sex on the brain.

I realized that I have never heard anybody imply or suggest that that song had anything to do with sex, or any physical sense.

Henley considers the Innocence to be the war years of LBJ, Carter, drug haze days of the 60s and 70s.



Oh yeah? Show me where he said that. Any of it.


In the meantime, while you're looking for something you'll never find because he never said it, you can go ahead and answer my question from before.

What does the line "Offer up your best defense" mean?



You're just forcing it to be a political song because you're a political nutjob just like the Lefty weirdos on this board. All you guys do is think in politics.


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Tuesday, March 16, 2021 9:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Here's another great one...



Now I know that JSF will say that it's about the actual act of sailing on the actual sea in an actual boat, but most music is a little deeper than that... at least the good music, and a song about sailing wouldn't explain the broad mass appeal, hitting number one on the Billboard charts for a week in 1980 and winning song and album of the year.

A millennial meth head who'd never heard this song before could accidentally stumble upon it one night in 2021 and be like "yeah, that's what happens when I smoke meth, man".

Is it about sex? Sure. It can be if that's what you want it to be. I know you've got some serious hangups about sex, JSF, but you're no judge.



From Christopher himself about the song:

Quote:

On the Howard Stern radio show, Cross explained that sailing with his friend got him away from the trials and tribulations of being a teenager. Cross said that if the guy had taken him bowling and he enjoyed it, the song could have become "Bowling."


Replace "Bowling" both times in that sentence above with any verb you choose, and that's what Sailing is about.




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Tuesday, March 16, 2021 1:44 PM

BRENDA


"Sailing" is a good song SIX. Very relaxing.


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Tuesday, March 16, 2021 3:20 PM

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I'll need to exit this thread because it takes forever to download and it crashes my browser.

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Tuesday, March 16, 2021 7:26 PM

BRENDA


Deleting as the video is unavailable.

The video is of song called "Home" by Michael Buble. He is French Canadian but it is in English. Will post lyrics later.

Another summer day
Has come and gone away
In Paris and Rome
But I wanna go home, mmm
May be surrounded by
A million people I
Still feel all alone
Just wanna go home
Oh, I miss you, you know
And I've been keeping all the letters
That I wrote to you
Each one a line or two
I'm fine baby, how are you?
Well I would send them but I know
That it's just not enough
My words were cold and flat
And you deserve more than that
Another airplane
Another sunny place
I'm lucky I know
But I wanna go home
Mmm, I got to go home
Let me go home
I'm just too far
From where you are
I wanna come home
And I feel just like
I'm living someone else's life
It's like I just stepped outside
When everything was going right
And I know just why you could not
But you always believed in me
Another winter day
Has come and gone away
In even Paris and Rome
And I wanna go home
Let me go home
And I'm surrounded by
A million people I
I still feel alone
Oh, let me go home
Oh, I miss you, you know
Let me go home
I've had my run
Baby, I'm done
I gotta go home
Let me go home
It'll all be all right
I'll be home tonight
I'm coming back home
Come along with me
That this was not your dream…


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Tuesday, March 16, 2021 7:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
"Sailing" is a good song SIX. Very relaxing.




It's one of the few songs I grew up with that I can still listen to. So many great songs just seem to get to a point where they start grating on my nerves and even cause me to groan when I hear them on the radio.

I can't imagine ever getting sick of Sailing.

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Tuesday, March 16, 2021 7:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Deleting as the video is unavailable.

The video is of song called "Home" by Michael Buble. He is French Canadian but it is in English. Will post lyrics later.



Here you go, Brenda.




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Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
"Sailing" is a good song SIX. Very relaxing.




It's one of the few songs I grew up with that I can still listen to. So many great songs just seem to get to a point where they start grating on my nerves and even cause me to groan when I hear them on the radio.

I can't imagine ever getting sick of Sailing.



I still listen to it too.

I listen to CD, tape or LP depending on my mood.

PS. Thanks for posting Buble's song. It wouldn't work with the "Official video" for me.

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