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1984 is the Bestselling Book on Amazon

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Monday, January 11, 2021 9:29 AM

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Monday, January 11, 2021 10:28 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-books-Amazon/zgbs/books

Sorry, Barry.



Of course you go right past the more important point and go for immaturity. "A point against Barack is a win for me!" Really? Why do you care?

Try and consider this, you might find it more interesting: I can see people on both sides of this debate reading that book and thinking it speaks to their possible future if the other side wins.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-books-Amazon/zgbs/books

Sorry, Barry.



Of course you go right past the more important point and go for immaturity. "A point against Barack is a win for me!" Really? Why do you care?

Try and consider this, you might find it more interesting: I can see people on both sides of this debate reading that book and thinking it speaks to their possible future if the other side wins.

1) Download Orwell 1984 for free at https://libgen.unblockit.ltd/search.php?req=Orwell+1984
Many critics have speculated on the sources behind Orwell’s
dystopian work. He was fascinated with Shakespeare’s Macbeth,
and that play is a well-known influence. He had read two
similar books, both of which are often taught in tandem with
Nineteen Eighty-Four: Yevgeny Ivenovich Zamyatin’s We (1924)
and Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World (1932).

2) The animating force of modern Republicanism is this: Democratic Party rule is an existential threat to America and is by definition illegitimate. It is a belief that explains much of what we’ve seen from the GOP in the past few decades, the glue that binds together Republicans.

Political scientists Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt, in their book How Democracies Die, talk of “mutual toleration”: the idea that, in a democracy, both parties respect the other one’s right to win elections and hold power. In the United States, Republicans have all but told their supporters that Democrats do not, in fact, have a right to rule — that they are fundamentally hostile to the American way of life.
More at https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/22217696/republicans-trump-cap
itol-hill-storming-mob-responsible


3) I was talking with a longtime member of the militant movement who says he’s a veteran of the elite special operations community. This is an older but still formidable man has always been genial with me. We were talking about the election and his conviction that there was massive fraud when he changed his tone and veered off into a very dark place. “What ultimately happens is some people stand with Trump and some people stand against the country. Some people stand with the coup, some people stand against the coup, and nobody stands with the law or morality at that point, and that’s where the war begins,” he said. “When we actually get involved, we’re going to kill Democrats, liberals, and communists at a rate that will defy anything that’s occurred in history, and when that happens, we’re going to make sure that it’s done so thoroughly that we don’t ever have to have this argument again. … It’s going to be so ugly and ruthless. … We’re going to go to the homes of the tank operators [who would be called in to put down an insurrection] and kill their wives and their children and nail them to the walls.”

More at https://theintercept.com/2021/01/10/capitol-riot-far-right/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 11, 2021 11:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-books-Amazon/zgbs/books

Sorry, Barry.



Of course you go right past the more important point and go for immaturity. "A point against Barack is a win for me!" Really? Why do you care?

Try and consider this, you might find it more interesting: I can see people on both sides of this debate reading that book and thinking it speaks to their possible future if the other side wins.




Barry was a joke. Don't let that derail your brain. I only came back and added that line after I looked at the list and saw his ugly mug on a second viewing.



I don't see how your side could possibly read that book and think that in 2021. You've been cheerleading corporate censorship for 4 years now whenever it happens, simply because it's voices that you don't agree with being silenced. Your argument this whole time was that a corporation is free to do whatever it wants. Now we have proof that not only will they ban you or me without any explanation whatsoever with no way of fighting it, but they will also unapologetically silence politicians themselves. This makes them more powerful than our own government in the age of digital discourse.

Hell... I can't even begin to guess how many times Nilbog had taken lines straight from the book like "if you're not doing anything wrong then what do you have to worry about?"


1984 is the most terrifying book ever written.

And the worst part is, the microphones and cameras in real life are impossible to see and so cheap to make that even if everybody wasn't walking around with one and had a bunch of them in their own houses, they'd be everywhere anyhow.


You need to take a step back and stop celebrating this behavior before it's too late for you.

The fact that 1984 is on the bestseller list today is the same reason that I stated yesterday that in the coming years I think it will actually be Marcos that I'm most aligned with in the RWED.

I know that it appears that we don't agree on much right now, but the entire dynamic is about to have a seismic shift and new lines are going to be drawn.

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Monday, January 11, 2021 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I know that it appears that we don't agree on much right now, but the entire dynamic is about to have a seismic shift and new lines are going to be drawn.

6ix, you have been dreaming of a revolution ever since you saw the movie Joker. If the GOP goes Joker on society by killing some Democrats and blowing up Federal buildings, the dithering Independent voters will drift over into voting for Democrats. After that, the GOP loses many elections in 2022. That is the "seismic shift and new lines" drawn.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 11, 2021 11:26 AM

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6ix, you have been dreaming of a revolution ever since you saw the movie Joker.



No I haven't. You've just been claiming that anyone who appreciated that movie did.

Quotes or it didn't happen.


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Monday, January 11, 2021 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ix, you have been dreaming of a revolution ever since you saw the movie Joker.



No I haven't. You've just been claiming that anyone who appreciated that movie did.

Quotes or it didn't happen.

It is fascinating reading what you wrote about this movie, but it shows you have a very poor grasp on movies and reality.

At first, 6ix wrote this:
Still no way I'm going to see this piece of shit, but it's hilarious how triggered the lefty crazies are by it.
I think my favorite tweet about it has to be the one where some guy said that any critic who gave it a fresh rating has blood on their hands.
They've become a Godless parody of the Evangelical Right in the 80's and 90's.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10844
94#1084494


Next, 6ix wrote:
I believe I heard today on the radio that it had the biggest DC movie opening ever. Was that true?
Hasn't the left figured out by now that the most surefire way to get people to do something is to tell them they can't do it?
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10846
24#1084624


Next, 6ix wrote:
I like to know how many of them watched every Saw movie that came out once a year while they were growing up.
You'll have to let me know if it's actual torture porn, or if it's actually any good when you see it. I largely tuned out of any of that shit after shutting off the sequel to Silence of the Lambs around my mid 20s. I don't mind watching movies with monsters and aliens, but I have no desire to watch people hurting other people. There's enough of that shit in the real world.
I agree that a lot of the trash out there today is gross. It's unfortunate that SJW's come around and make it about sex and race, and then calling for banning it, essentially making Joker a hero in 2019.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10846
54#1084654


Next, 6ix wrote:
So... Is it torture porn or not?
I'm increasingly interested in seeing this if it isn't.
I wasn't aware that it won the Venice Film Festival before American critics saw it and started tearing it to shreds.
https://www.dw.com/en/joker-wins-best-film-at-venice-film-festival/a-5
0340659

WatchMojo, a top-ten clickbait horseshit youtube channel on par with BuzzFeed has videos titled "Top 10 Reasons Joker Will Blow Your Mind", "Top 10 Things Joker Did Right", "Top 10 Reasons Joker Will Sweep at the Oscars".
Tim Pool just made a video on it very hesitantly saying that he wants to give it a 10 out of 10, and that he was in awe of it. He says that some people will probably think it's not action packed enough if they walk in expecting the usual Marvel or DC fare, but it's his personal favorite comic book movie of all time.
And now I understand what the lefty elitist backlash is all about too...
Joker is not an incel. There's no incel rhetoric in the movie at all.
What they had a problem with is the fact that all the mask wearing Joker supporters in the film are emulating are Marcos and his black mask wearing Antifa buddies. The film is a hit piece on extreme leftism today.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10847
17#1084717


Next:
Cool. I think I'm going to see it. As long as it isn't anywhere near the level of "Hannibal" in terms of violence.
Thanks.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10847
64#1084764


Finally, 6ix saw Joker and went wild.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=10857
85#1085785


6ix praised the movie in 60 more postings. Apparently, 6ix missed the point that Joker murdered everyone who did not find him praiseworthy, including murdering his mother. 6ix misunderstood the meaning of the looting and murdering spree by Joker's admirers rampaging through Gotham City.

Download the movie for free:
https://ddownload.com/8vt7g5c4wt8w
https://katfile.com/z6313ecbmavp/Joker.2019.720p.10bit.BluRay.6CH.x265
.HEVC-PSA.rar.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 11, 2021 1:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
6ix, you have been dreaming of a revolution ever since you saw the movie Joker.



No I haven't. You've just been claiming that anyone who appreciated that movie did.

Quotes or it didn't happen.

It is fascinating reading what you wrote about this movie, but it shows you have a very poor grasp on movies and reality.

At first, 6ix wrote this:
Still no way I'm going to see this piece of shit, but it's hilarious how triggered the lefty crazies are by it.
I think my favorite tweet about it has to be the one where some guy said that any critic who gave it a fresh rating has blood on their hands.
They've become a Godless parody of the Evangelical Right in the 80's and 90's.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10844
94#1084494


Next, 6ix wrote:
I believe I heard today on the radio that it had the biggest DC movie opening ever. Was that true?
Hasn't the left figured out by now that the most surefire way to get people to do something is to tell them they can't do it?
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10846
24#1084624


Next, 6ix wrote:
I like to know how many of them watched every Saw movie that came out once a year while they were growing up.
You'll have to let me know if it's actual torture porn, or if it's actually any good when you see it. I largely tuned out of any of that shit after shutting off the sequel to Silence of the Lambs around my mid 20s. I don't mind watching movies with monsters and aliens, but I have no desire to watch people hurting other people. There's enough of that shit in the real world.
I agree that a lot of the trash out there today is gross. It's unfortunate that SJW's come around and make it about sex and race, and then calling for banning it, essentially making Joker a hero in 2019.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10846
54#1084654


Next, 6ix wrote:
So... Is it torture porn or not?
I'm increasingly interested in seeing this if it isn't.
I wasn't aware that it won the Venice Film Festival before American critics saw it and started tearing it to shreds.
https://www.dw.com/en/joker-wins-best-film-at-venice-film-festival/a-5
0340659

WatchMojo, a top-ten clickbait horseshit youtube channel on par with BuzzFeed has videos titled "Top 10 Reasons Joker Will Blow Your Mind", "Top 10 Things Joker Did Right", "Top 10 Reasons Joker Will Sweep at the Oscars".
Tim Pool just made a video on it very hesitantly saying that he wants to give it a 10 out of 10, and that he was in awe of it. He says that some people will probably think it's not action packed enough if they walk in expecting the usual Marvel or DC fare, but it's his personal favorite comic book movie of all time.
And now I understand what the lefty elitist backlash is all about too...
Joker is not an incel. There's no incel rhetoric in the movie at all.
What they had a problem with is the fact that all the mask wearing Joker supporters in the film are emulating are Marcos and his black mask wearing Antifa buddies. The film is a hit piece on extreme leftism today.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10847
17#1084717


Next:
Cool. I think I'm going to see it. As long as it isn't anywhere near the level of "Hannibal" in terms of violence.
Thanks.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10847
64#1084764


Finally, 6ix saw Joker and went wild.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=10857
85#1085785


6ix praised the movie in 60 more postings. Apparently, 6ix missed the point that Joker murdered everyone who did not find him praiseworthy, including murdering his mother. 6ix misunderstood the meaning of the looting and murdering spree by Joker's admirers rampaging through Gotham City.

Download the movie for free:
https://ddownload.com/8vt7g5c4wt8w
https://katfile.com/z6313ecbmavp/Joker.2019.720p.10bit.BluRay.6CH.x265
.HEVC-PSA.rar.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Wow. All of that work to prove nothing.

Not a single quote showing that I'm all about supporting a revolution.

Most of my praise was for the acting of Joaquin Phoenix himself, and I know I said it would be hard for me to recommend the movie to others because of how uncomfortable an experience it was.

Dig through those 60 posts I made and find one that backs up your regurgitation of Leftist Legacy Media claims that violent people love Joker and/or Joker will make people violent.

I'll wait.

(SPOILER ALERT: 3/4 of quotes of mine in your last post already discounts the first half of that.)

Meanwhile, maybe I should share my archived links of your death threats to the President or where you've suggested that everybody should kill their bosses and steal everything they own. You know... the one's you subsequently deleted but were backed up by two of us already before you deleted them.


Hmmmmmm?




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Monday, January 11, 2021 1:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


In the meantime, how about you stick to the fucking topic and stop derailing every single thread in here with your nonsense, mkay?

;)


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Monday, January 11, 2021 2:22 PM

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In the meantime, how about you stick to the fucking topic and stop derailing every single thread in here with your nonsense, mkay?

You keep reminding me why reality kicks your ass, 6ix. And don't tell me that you're doing okay. I hear that same "I'm okay" from every Trumptard I know in Texas. Why should you be a smaller failure than they are? None of them are doing okay, and in every case it is their own fault. Everyone of these dumb Trumptards think they are getting screwed out of what they rightfully deserve by Democrats. They think that the whole world needs to be overhauled because things aren't going to their liking. Everyday is Orwell's '1984' for the Trumptards and they want a fight. The fight they could win, and would fix their lives, is inside their heads, but Trumptards see that it is external world, not themselves, needs straightening. Trumptards who think they can fix their lives by changing the externals: either withdrawing from life or voting or revolting, are delusional and will fail slowly into misery.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 11, 2021 6:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm fine bro.

Your guy won* and you're still acting like a crybaby after four years of being a little bitch.

You do you.




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Monday, January 11, 2021 6:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Sigh. The trolls do show their true colors don't they, because they really DON'T stick to the topic.

1984 is the Bestselling Book on Amazon

In any case, I hope it means that people are trying to learn how government (with corporate alliances) can take over the "information-space" and how not to be fooled by it. Which doesn't necessarily mean being a Q or FOX or Parler follower either.

Nobody should "believe" any unevidenced statements put out by ANY source. Instead, I hope people are learning how important it is to sift out actual FACTS based on EVIDENCE gleaned from a wide range of sources, including left, right, and foreign.



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Monday, January 11, 2021 6:53 PM

REAVERFAN


CONSERVATIVES STOP CITING 1984 CHALLENGE 2021


You're embarrassing yourselves again.



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Monday, January 11, 2021 7:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Here's a great example of political censorship by private companies.


Corporate America pulls the plug on President Trump
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/11/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/
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Monday, January 11, 2021 7:00 PM

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You'll be citing 1984 soon enough, Marcos.

Don't let the fact that it happened to Trump this time make you forget that this is something that should concern you.

Censorship and privacy rights have always been important to me and have been an unwavering stance of mine since before 2005 when I joined this site. It doesn't matter who was president, or who controlled the Senate or the House.




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Monday, January 11, 2021 7:49 PM

REAVERFAN


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You'll be citing 1984 soon enough, Marcos.

Don't let the fact that it happened to Trump this time make you forget that this is something that should concern you.

Censorship and privacy rights have always been important to me and have been an unwavering stance of mine since before 2005 when I joined this site. It doesn't matter who was president, or who controlled the Senate or the House.


You've never read it, and you certainly don't know what it was about.

You need to STFU, or I'll laugh at you some more.



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Monday, January 11, 2021 8:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



When you start accepting Biden*'s pro-corporate pro-war pro-China pro-surveillance anti-Russia!! moves, and don't notice how Biden* fails to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, or oil and gas drilling, and fails to signs any nuclear treaties, then I'll know. I'll know you've won the war with yourself, and you love Big Brother.

As for me ...

... when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Monday, January 11, 2021 9:25 PM

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It is 1984 and if Big Brother Trump can't Tweet, his bowels might explode:

United States is Leaderless while Trump feuds With Twitter and Professional Golfers’ Association

Not since Washington's farewell address has an American leader ended his term in such a fitting way.

Amid still-spiking coronavirus numbers and a violent insurrection crisis he helped create, Donald Trump is laser-focused on using his last hours as president to complain that he was removed from a social media app that originally came to prominence as a means by which teenagers could stay abreast of Justin Bieber’s daily schedule, reports say.

Since conceding in a video issued under duress last Thursday that Joe Biden is the certified winner of the presidential election and that a new administration will take over the government on Jan. 20, the chief executive has not appeared in public or released any statements. CNBC’s Eamon Javers reports, however, that administration officials are considering “the idea of President Trump making remarks on camera today about big tech,” while the Washington Post says he “plans to spend the final days of his term in office railing against the industry.”

Twitter and Facebook both suspended Trump’s account when he released a video praising the individuals who were occupying the Capitol. When the president returned from his suspension Thursday to make remarks that could be interpreted as calls to continue violently disputing the election result, Twitter announced a permanent ban—a removal that marked a stunning fall from grace for a man who was once thought of alongside Ashton Kutcher and Snooki as one of the service’s signature personalities. (Trump is also reportedly furious at PGA of America for canceling a scheduled 2022 event at his golf course in New Jersey.)

The business of governing the United States, meanwhile, is being done by people besides the president on an ad hoc basis. Vice President Mike Pence—who reportedly hasn’t spoken to Trump since the president denounced him during the Capitol riot—is scheduled to lead a coronavirus task force meeting at the White House on Monday afternoon and, according to Politico, is being treated as the head of the executive branch in a “wink, wink, nod, nod” way by lawmakers and other officials. Pence, and not Trump, will attend Biden’s swearing-in; Pence also spoke to the family of the Capitol Police officer who was killed in the riot to offer condolences, which the president has not done.

For the last four years, the president’s most well-credentialed and nominally respectable allies argued that he would be more appreciated for his accomplishments in governance if he were able to suppress his impulse to make inflammatory comments online. Given a chance to prove that, though, when Twitter pulled the plug, he’s shown that his only governing priority is getting back to posting again. To Trump and to the supporters who understood him best, being in a position to air talk-radio grievances from the presidential pulpit always was his most important accomplishment.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/trump-planning-twitter-feu
d-for-final-days-in-office.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 11, 2021 10:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You'll be citing 1984 soon enough, Marcos.

Don't let the fact that it happened to Trump this time make you forget that this is something that should concern you.

Censorship and privacy rights have always been important to me and have been an unwavering stance of mine since before 2005 when I joined this site. It doesn't matter who was president, or who controlled the Senate or the House.


You've never read it, and you certainly don't know what it was about.

You need to STFU, or I'll laugh at you some more.





I have read it.

I read a book called "Amusing Ourselves To Death" by Neil Postman in my early 20's which would have been somewhere during the first few years of GWB's Presidency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amusing_Ourselves_to_Death

This is the cover variant that I read, and it happens to be my favorite:



It was in my grandma's basement while I was living there for a few years before I got my shit together. There were a ton of books down there that were my uncle's, my dad's, my grandma's and a few that were over 100 years old that I've still got tucked away in a safe place today.

On a side note, I probably never would have read it if the copy in the basement was one of the other boring versions...

Amusing Ourselves to Death was scary, and fairly accurate to what I had experienced up to that point, and it was already nearly 20 years old itself.


It made frequent references to both 1984 and Brave New World.

I've always been glad that I read Brave New World after reading 1984 (It's possible that Neil Postman recommended reading them in that order, but I couldn't say without reading his book again). Both were really sad stories for sure, but at least everyone was so high out of their brains on a drug with no side effects to notice it in Brave New World, and only those who made the choice to stop taking the drugs questioned anything. I've lived nearly 20 years now believing that we're headed toward one of those two worlds. I'm really rooting for Brave New World.



I've made tons of references to both books over the years here.



You should read Amusing Ourselves to Death if you haven't already.


Not sure how it holds up today, since I read it half a lifetime ago and it's 36 years old now. I'm also not sure at all what political slant it comes from either, as I read it during much simpler times where I wasn't at all politically affiliated except for on the most superficial level. But after reading all three of those books I was fiercely against GWB, neverending conflict in the Middle East and the Patriot Act.



Oh... and I also went through about a 5 year period where I was beyond paranoid about our Government, and it took maturing to the point to realize that I'm not the bright shiny center of the universe and I'm not really all that interesting to finally get over that. That being said, I think once is enough, reading 1984. I'm actually kind of afraid to read it again.

As it turns out, thanks to whistleblowers like Snowden, most of that paranoid stuff I was telling my friends and family the government had the capability to do was actually happening IRL. And when everybody just kind of let it go down the memory hole after a few weeks I thought to myself "why the hell am I driving myself nuts about this anymore when everybody else knows what I've been saying for years is true and nobody else seems to give a shit?"

To this day, I've never watched a TV show or movie based off of either book and I refuse to. I don't want my own memories of those stories tainted by somebody else's vision of them.



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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 1:53 AM

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1984 is the Bestselling Book on Amazon
Don't worry, the globalibs will censor that, too.



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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 5:56 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Barry was a joke. Don't let that derail your brain. I only came back and added that line after I looked at the list and saw his ugly mug on a second viewing.



So his picture derailed your brain. Read your post sfb.

Mostly 6ForBrains:
I don't see how your side could possibly read that book and think that in 2021. [ of course - you don't see ]
You've been cheerleading corporate censorship for 4 years now whenever it happens [ lie ],
simply because it's voices that you don't agree with being silenced.[ lie ]
Your argument this whole time was that a corporation is free to do whatever it wants.[ lie ]
Now we have proof that not only will they ban you or me without any explanation whatsoever [ lie ]
with no way of fighting it,[ lie ]
but they will also unapologetically silence politicians themselves.[ lie ]
This makes them more powerful than our own government in the age of digital discourse. [ lie ]

^ let me know if you want me to explain those to you, otherwise whatever, stay ignorant, stay simple.

Hell... I can't even begin to guess how many times Nilbog had taken lines straight from the book like "if you're not doing anything wrong then what do you have to worry about?" [ that's true in any society so whether that is good or bad DEPENDS on the society. If Magats took over can you imagine what their society would be like? I can - 1984 ]

1984 is the most terrifying book ever written. [ hmmm, close - bible? ]

And the worst part is, the microphones and cameras in real life are impossible to see and so cheap to make that even if everybody wasn't walking around with one and had a bunch of them in their own houses, they'd be everywhere anyhow.
[ thank god for those cam phones - cops would be killing people of all colors left and right without any days off ]

You need to take a step back and stop celebrating this behavior before it's too late for you. [ what behavior? Holding people who violently try and over throw the elected government accountable? So, whoever is the most violent is in power and forget voting, just king of the hill? Do you read with any comprehension? ]

The fact that 1984 is on the bestseller list today is the same reason that I stated yesterday that in the coming years I think it will actually be Marcos that I'm most aligned with in the RWED. [ who fucking cares ]

I know that it appears that we don't agree on much right now, but the entire dynamic is about to have a seismic shift and new lines are going to be drawn. [ Putin wishes to thank you for your service to mother Russia ]

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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 6:06 AM

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Here's a great example of political censorship by private companies.

Corporate America pulls the plug on President Trump
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/11/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/
index.html



Censorship?? It's called "smart business." He's bad for business, ds.

"Facing an unprecedented threat to US democracy, companies appear to be recalculating the benefits and risks of being associated with Trump.
My CNN Business colleague Matt Egan points out that the Business Roundtable cheered on the CEO president after his election in 2016, applauding his tax plans and appointment of Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, a former Goldman Sachs banker.
Last week, the influential business lobby struck a very different tone, slamming US politicians for spreading the "fiction of a fraudulent 2020 presidential election."

So KIKI: not smart or just agitating? Both!

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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 6:16 AM

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Don't let the fact that it happened to Trump this time make you forget that this is something that should concern you.




Trump had all that time on Twitter to tweet: "Wear a mask, wash your hands, social distance when around others and stay indoors unless you are designated essential service provider" and we would be out of lock down by now. 100's of thousands of lives and jobs would have been saved, and millions? billions? of dollars saved. Instead, he used it to gin up a riot and an attempted over throw of the duly elected government - which many of you use to use as a defense of Trump. The entire freaking PLANET would be better off today if Twitter/FB etc had banned him in 2019. But I don't suppose you care about any of that.

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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 9:07 AM

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I don't see any of it the way that you see it.

I'm not debating this with you.

Free speech isn't debatable.


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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 12:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The globalibs* here say... without a sense of irony, shame, or self-awareness ... that they censor to defend FREEDOM! (Apparently freedom of speech is one of those freedoms that they don't mind obliterating.)
Just as some say they want to genocide most of the world to prevent TYRANNY!
Seriously???



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*Globalibs: Individuals who believe that they're liberals, leftists, anti-fascists, socialists, or even radicals whose ACTUAL goal is global fascism, through their support of centralized, global, authoritarian, corporate/government.

They believe that centralized, Big Government will Solve Our Big Problems and bring us FREEDOM! and EQUALITY! and SAVE US FROM CLIMATE EXTINCTION! without realizing that government caused these problems in the first place, because their governments are controlled by business (which is fascism).



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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 1:17 PM

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Yup.

And ironically, I think it will be Marcos that's the first to wake up once Trump is out of the picture.

Loudest of the bunch isn't going to be too happy when he realizes that Trump was just a symptom of the real problems.


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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 4:55 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Censorship?? It's called "smart business." He's bad for business, ds.
Bringing us real news is also bad for business - and hey! we haven't had real news in decades! And you don't miss it at all!

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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 4:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Trump had all that time on Twitter to tweet: "Wear a mask, wash your hands, social distance when around others and stay indoors unless you are designated essential service provider" and we would be out of lock down by now.

And because there are overlords who approve and disapprove what we should hear and say, Trump's now been silenced.

Let's hear it for censorship and propaganda by the unaccountable 'them'! (Right?)


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Tuesday, January 12, 2021 5:41 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




We're just another Uganda!

Uganda’s leader says social media shut down ahead of polls
https://apnews.com/article/bobi-wine-yoweri-museveni-kampala-violence-
elections-3380fab539eca08cab1529f776eeb975


Tech giants banished Trump. Now things get complicated
Will companies now hold other world leaders to the same standard?
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-us-news-coronavirus-pandemic-1
e3ebd760ad0fdada5c35783020f93cd





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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 9:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:

Trump had all that time on Twitter to tweet: "Wear a mask, wash your hands, social distance when around others and stay indoors unless you are designated essential service provider" and we would be out of lock down by now.

And because there are overlords who approve and disapprove what we should hear and say, Trump's now been silenced.

Let's hear it for censorship and propaganda by the unaccountable 'them'! (Right?)




I know! Too bad he was never aloud to have daily briefings or ever talk to the press before he was shut down!! Wait...Trump had daily briefings for months, so he had tons of time to save lives. Poor, stupid Kiki. : sad face :

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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 9:27 AM

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^ Does it ever have a single thought a talking head didn't put there?


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Wednesday, January 13, 2021 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ Does it ever have a single thought a talking head didn't put there?



^ Does it dispute that Trump had months of time on tv, in his own designated format, in front of the nation, before twitter shut him down? The complete control of the news airwaves of the 4 major networks, in which he could have said, "stop being a cry baby and wear a mask. Do it for yourself, do it for your neighbor, do it for your country." ?

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Saturday, January 16, 2021 1:45 PM

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I was wondering more about gun sales.

Innauguration will likely put an end to ammo sales availability, just like under Barry.

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Saturday, January 16, 2021 2:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ Does it ever have a single thought a talking head didn't put there?



^ Does it dispute that Trump had months of time on tv, in his own designated format, in front of the nation, before twitter shut him down? The complete control of the news airwaves of the 4 major networks, in which he could have said, "stop being a cry baby and wear a mask. Do it for yourself, do it for your neighbor, do it for your country." ?



Does it run away again?

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Saturday, January 16, 2021 3:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nope.

Just doesn't care at all what it's incorrect regurgitation of Legacy Media parroting it mistakes for opinions are about literally anything.

I'm right. You're wrong. Same shit. Different day.

*yawn*




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Saturday, January 16, 2021 5:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope.

Just doesn't care at all what it's incorrect regurgitation of Legacy Media parroting it mistakes for opinions are about literally anything.

I'm right. You're wrong. Same shit. Different day.

*yawn*






What kind of sentence structure is that? Want some help with it?

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Saturday, January 16, 2021 6:36 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope.

Just doesn't care at all what it's incorrect regurgitation of Legacy Media parroting it mistakes for opinions are about literally anything.

I'm right. You're wrong. Same shit. Different day.

*yawn*






Same shit is you not being able to, or unwilling to, answer simple questions. Probably because they don’t fit your narrative or make you look like an idiot.

Plus: Not regurgitating any opinions - was Trump doing daily COVID press conferences or not?

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Saturday, January 16, 2021 7:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Your questions are bullshit.

You've got a problem, Cap'n, when somebody can already know the stance you would take on any issue by knowing what the antagonists in 1984 would think.

I don't lower myself to debate with the likes of you.


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Monday, January 18, 2021 7:14 PM

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I was wondering more about gun sales.

Innauguration will likely put an end to ammo sales availability, just like under Barry.

I was also wondering why Kafka gets no love?

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Monday, January 18, 2021 8:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I was wondering more about gun sales.

Innauguration will likely put an end to ammo sales availability, just like under Barry.

I was also wondering why Kafka gets no love?



He's probably too Kafkaesque for most folk.




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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I was wondering more about gun sales.

Innauguration will likely put an end to ammo sales availability, just like under Barry.

I was also wondering why Kafka gets no love?



He's probably too Kafkaesque for most folk.




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I was thinking that gaslighting has become a more familiar concept in recent years.

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 11:42 PM

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I don't lower myself to debate with the likes of you.



It's not possible for you to get any lower than the basement, is it??





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