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Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:44 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Reports from AZ officials are that results from Maricopa County have not been turned in yet, and the percent of votes tallied is actually 85%, not 99%.

Also, Trump campaign has filed suit for ongoing shenanigans in MI and PA. In MI for lack of access, and in PA for lack of transparency.

Votes for 2016 Presidential race were 2.4 million in AZ. Currently showing 2.7 votes tallied in this race for AZ.

If AZ is Trump's, then Trump could lose WI and PA and still have 270.

Maricopa in 2016 had over 1.5 million votes for President, with Trump getting 45,000 more than Hilliary. The current claimed lead in AZ is Obiden with 93,000. Reports are 650,000 otes remaining, and 84% have been reported.

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Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Heard news that NV was planning to not count any votes today, but have released a statement that they might bother themselves to count some more today.

https://wnyt.com/politics/nevada-suspends-ballot-counting-decision-202
0-/5915251
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https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/nevada/articles/2020-11-03/nev
ada-high-court-asked-to-stop-vegas-area-mail-ballot-count

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Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:56 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/politics-news-pmn/michigan-still
-counting-votes-angry-poll-watchers-barred-in-detroit-trump-sues-2


Emotions were running high on Wednesday afternoon in downtown Detroit, where city election officials blocked about 30 people, mostly Republicans, from entering the vote-counting hall at TCF Center due to capacity restrictions to fight the spread of COVID-19.

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Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:18 AM

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https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/politics-news-pmn/michigan-still
-counting-votes-angry-poll-watchers-barred-in-detroit-trump-sues-2


Emotions were running high on Wednesday afternoon in downtown Detroit, where city election officials blocked about 30 people, mostly Republicans, from entering the vote-counting hall at TCF Center due to capacity restrictions to fight the spread of COVID-19.

You can't have a bunch of armed randos trying to disrupt the vote count.

That's fascism.



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Thursday, November 5, 2020 12:54 PM

SIGNYM

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There are supposed to be observers from BOTH PARTIES (technically, ALL parties) to watch the vote-counting. Reportedly, Republican observers are being blocked, and the windows also blocked so nobody can peek in and see what's going on.

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Thursday, November 5, 2020 2:04 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There are supposed to be observers from BOTH PARTIES (technically, ALL parties) to watch the vote-counting. Reportedly, Republican observers are being blocked, and the windows also blocked so nobody can peek in and see what's going on.

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Another lie.



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Thursday, November 5, 2020 2:19 PM

SIGNYM

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Which part? The part that says counting must be observed by BOTH (technically, ALL) parties?

Or the one that says that reportedly GOP observers are being kept out by Democrats?

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See tense situation at Detroit ballot-counting center
CNN's Miguel Marquez reports from a convention center in Detroit where some observers and challengers to the vote-counting process have been removed from a room where absentee ballots are being counted.


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/04/michigan-detroit-ballot
-counting-center-tensions-flare-marquez-elexnight-vpx.cnn


In M$M reporting about this, with all of the blah-blah-blah about approval process and credentialing of challengers the one thing the reports DON'T mention is that there are, in fact, Republican challengers already inside observing the vote. Just being able to say THAT would, I think, calm things down considerably, so why doesn't the M$M report that?

Detroit local news says there are Republican challengers already inside, but that hasn't made it to national news. Republican challengers say they are overwhelmed since their numbers do not equal the number of Democrat and Democrat-leaning challengers.
https://michiganchronicle.com/2020/11/04/republican-vote-challengers-p
rotest-erupt-over-tallying-process-at-tcf-center-in-detroit
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Thursday, November 5, 2020 2:43 PM

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Because trumptards don't know or care how elections work. They just want to win, and if they don't, they cry.





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Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:19 PM

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REAVERBOT: Because trumptards don't know or care how elections work. They just want to win, and if they don't, they cry.


Oh like this?



Got your ass handed to you, AGAIN, didn't you?


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Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:32 PM

SIGNYM

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One interesting thing to look at would be the #of votes for GOP Senators v #votes for Trump. Because if there are a lot more votes for GOP Senators than for Trump, either GOP voters left the "President" box unmarked or split their ticket, (unlikely, most people vote straight ticket) or the Trump vote tally was monkeyed with.

And just for comparison, do the same for #votes for DEM Senators compared to the #votes for Biden. Because if the #votes for Biden vastly exceeds the #votes for DEM Senators, then either DEM voters refused to vote down-ballot (HIGHLY unlikely, most people vote straight ticket and if they're going to hold their nose and vote for a corrupt politico like Joe they'll for sure vote downballot) or the Biden vote tally was monkeyed with.

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Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:59 PM

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That's a consideration, since Nancy lost a chunk of votes in the House and the Senate doesn't look like it's going to flip. That would indicate increased/ maintained republican votes for Congress but decreased republican votes for president, which makes no sense.

I'd look at states where the margins in terms of total numbers votes are small. Otherwise we're talking about modifying/ manufacturing hundreds of thousands of votes, and that's too massive for me to want to consider.


It's not the votes that counts, it's who counts the votes.

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Thursday, November 5, 2020 5:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Nothing was found "magically." Those votes were cast, and are only now being counted.

They will be overwhelmingly Democratic.



There's a diference between being "overwhelimgly" Democrat and being 100% Democrat. I haven't calculated the odds, but for illustrative purposes to count 138,000+ votes and have them ALL be Democrat would be like flipping a coin and having it come up "tails" 138,000+ times in a row.

If THAT happened, I would take a serious look a the coin, the coin flipper, or the counter.

Really. 138,000+ votes "Democrat" and not a single one Republican? Even in a heavily democrat district, there will be 10% something else. Sounds like the ballots were pre-sorted or ballot-harvested or fraudulently generated or fraudulently counted.

This is just like the 2004 election of GWB, where six battlegrounds swung in his favor, disagreeing heavily with exit polls. Because this only happened (1) in battleground states (2) in precincts with electronic voting (3) and all swung in one direction (4) fr beyond the known error rate of exit polling, fraud is the most likely explanation.

Which is why I have been harping on picture identification at the polls (absentee ballots should be requested by the voter, NOT sent out en masse), HAND MARKED ballots, HAND COUNTED in public.

Democrats didn't move to clean up the election process then, they just figured out new and better ways of cheating.

We REALLY need a more cheat-proof system of voting!

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Yu seem to be aware that Trump won the Election, and Dems are trying hard to steal it.

Are you surprised?

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Thursday, November 5, 2020 5:04 PM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Yu seem to be aware that Trump won the Election, and Dems are trying hard to steal it.

Are you surprised?



And in spite of the facts, you will say that for the rest of your Russian troll career.



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Friday, November 6, 2020 2:46 AM

SIGNYM

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REAVERFAN:
Nothing was found "magically." Those votes were cast, and are only now being counted.

They will be overwhelmingly Democratic.


SIGNYM: There's a diference between being "overwhelimgly" Democrat and being 100% Democrat. I haven't calculated the odds, but for illustrative purposes to count 138,000+ votes and have them ALL be Democrat would be like flipping a coin and having it come up "tails" 138,000+ times in a row.

If THAT happened, I would take a serious look a the coin, the coin flipper, or the counter.

Really. 138,000+ votes "Democrat" and not a single one Republican? Even in a heavily democrat district, there will be 10% something else. Sounds like the ballots were pre-sorted or ballot-harvested or fraudulently generated or fraudulently counted.

This was all blamed on "clerical error". The votes were NOT for Biden.

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Friday, November 6, 2020 3:01 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
One interesting thing to look at would be the #of votes for GOP Senators v #votes for Trump. Because if there are a lot more votes for GOP Senators than for Trump, either GOP voters left the "President" box unmarked or split their ticket, (unlikely, most people vote straight ticket) or the Trump vote tally was monkeyed with.

And just for comparison, do the same for #votes for DEM Senators compared to the #votes for Biden. Because if the #votes for Biden vastly exceeds the #votes for DEM Senators, then either DEM voters refused to vote down-ballot (HIGHLY unlikely, most people vote straight ticket and if they're going to hold their nose and vote for a corrupt politico like Joe they'll for sure vote downballot) or the Biden vote tally was monkeyed with.



I guess I'm not the only one to think of using Senate votes as an "internal standard" for the Presidential vote. (All you analytical chemists out there will know what Im talking about.)

Quote:

Why Does Biden Have So Many More Votes Than Democrat Senators In Swing States?

In most elections, the majority of votes are cast "down the ticket" - meaning, a voter supports both party's presidential nominee and state Congressional candidates. In fact, according to Pew Research, "overwhelming shares of voters who are supporting Trump and Biden say they are also supporting the same-party candidate for Senate."

Typically, this means that that the number of votes for a presidential candidate and that party's Senate candidates are relatively close.

Twitter user "US Rebel" (@USRebellion1776), however, found that the number of votes cast for Joe Biden far exceeds those cast for that state's Senate candidates in swing states, while those cast for Trump and GOP Senators remains far closer.

I will present the article data in tabular form for easier reading

SWING STATES
MICHIGAN
Joe Biden (D) votes 2,787,544 (+69,003)
Gary Peters (D Senate) votes 2,718,541

Donald Trump (R) 2,637,163 (+7,121)
John James (R Senate) 2,630,042

GEORGIA
Biden 2,414,651 (+95,801)
D Senator 2,318,850

Trump 2,432,799 (+818)
R Senator 2,433,617

MONTANA
Biden 243,278 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:270,735

Trump 340,635 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 330,317

NONSWING STATES
WYOMING
Biden (+725)

*****

It would be interesting to see a full analysis on that.



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Friday, November 6, 2020 3:54 AM

1KIKI

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OMG.

That looks bad.

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Friday, November 6, 2020 9:45 AM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by SignyM:
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REAVERBOT: Because trumptards don't know or care how elections work. They just want to win, and if they don't, they cry.


Oh like this?



Got your ass handed to you, AGAIN, didn't you?




Once again, you got your ass handed to you.

You tears are delicious!

Who are we kidding? You aren't even in America.



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Friday, November 6, 2020 2:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

OMG.

That looks bad.

You cannot possibly be surprised that that is the residue of Election Fraud.

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Friday, November 6, 2020 2:40 PM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

OMG.

That looks bad.

You cannot possibly be surprised that that is the residue of Election Fraud.



There was no fraud. You have no proof of fraud. All you have are reichwing lies manufactured in your native Russia.



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Friday, November 6, 2020 2:41 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
One interesting thing to look at would be the #of votes for GOP Senators v #votes for Trump. Because if there are a lot more votes for GOP Senators than for Trump, either GOP voters left the "President" box unmarked or split their ticket, (unlikely, most people vote straight ticket) or the Trump vote tally was monkeyed with.

And just for comparison, do the same for #votes for DEM Senators compared to the #votes for Biden. Because if the #votes for Biden vastly exceeds the #votes for DEM Senators, then either DEM voters refused to vote down-ballot (HIGHLY unlikely, most people vote straight ticket and if they're going to hold their nose and vote for a corrupt politico like Joe they'll for sure vote downballot) or the Biden vote tally was monkeyed with.


I guess I'm not the only one to think of using Senate votes as an "internal standard" for the Presidential vote. (All you analytical chemists out there will know what Im talking about.)
Quote:

Why Does Biden Have So Many More Votes Than Democrat Senators In Swing States?

In most elections, the majority of votes are cast "down the ticket" - meaning, a voter supports both party's presidential nominee and state Congressional candidates. In fact, according to Pew Research, "overwhelming shares of voters who are supporting Trump and Biden say they are also supporting the same-party candidate for Senate."

Typically, this means that that the number of votes for a presidential candidate and that party's Senate candidates are relatively close.

Twitter user "US Rebel" (@USRebellion1776), however, found that the number of votes cast for Joe Biden far exceeds those cast for that state's Senate candidates in swing states, while those cast for Trump and GOP Senators remains far closer.

I will present the article data in tabular form for easier reading

SWING STATES
MICHIGAN
Joe Biden (D) votes 2,787,544 (+69,003)
Gary Peters (D Senate) votes 2,718,541

Donald Trump (R) 2,637,163 (+7,121)
John James (R Senate) 2,630,042

GEORGIA
Biden 2,414,651 (+95,801)
D Senator 2,318,850

Trump 2,432,799 (+818)
R Senator 2,433,617

MONTANA
Biden 243,278 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:270,735

Trump 340,635 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 330,317

NONSWING STATESCurrent update:

WYOMING
Biden (+725)

*****

It would be interesting to see a full analysis on that.

Current update:

MONTANA
Biden 243.719
Dem Sen:271,209 (+27,490)
Dem CD 261,168 (+17,449)


Trump 341,767
GOP Sen 331,414 (-10,353)
GOP CD 337,381 (-4,386)


POTUS total: 600,680
Senator total: 602,623
MT-1 CD total: 598,549


https://ca.yahoo.com/topics/us-election?cache=clear
I notice the House race has 100% ciounted, but the Senate and President only have 99% counted.

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Friday, November 6, 2020 3:28 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
One interesting thing to look at would be the #of votes for GOP Senators v #votes for Trump. Because if there are a lot more votes for GOP Senators than for Trump, either GOP voters left the "President" box unmarked or split their ticket, (unlikely, most people vote straight ticket) or the Trump vote tally was monkeyed with.

And just for comparison, do the same for #votes for DEM Senators compared to the #votes for Biden. Because if the #votes for Biden vastly exceeds the #votes for DEM Senators, then either DEM voters refused to vote down-ballot (HIGHLY unlikely, most people vote straight ticket and if they're going to hold their nose and vote for a corrupt politico like Joe they'll for sure vote downballot) or the Biden vote tally was monkeyed with.



I guess I'm not the only one to think of using Senate votes as an "internal standard" for the Presidential vote. (All you analytical chemists out there will know what Im talking about.)

Quote:

Why Does Biden Have So Many More Votes Than Democrat Senators In Swing States?

In most elections, the majority of votes are cast "down the ticket" - meaning, a voter supports both party's presidential nominee and state Congressional candidates. In fact, according to Pew Research, "overwhelming shares of voters who are supporting Trump and Biden say they are also supporting the same-party candidate for Senate."

Typically, this means that that the number of votes for a presidential candidate and that party's Senate candidates are relatively close.

Twitter user "US Rebel" (@USRebellion1776), however, found that the number of votes cast for Joe Biden far exceeds those cast for that state's Senate candidates in swing states, while those cast for Trump and GOP Senators remains far closer.

I will present the article data in tabular form for easier reading

SWING STATES
MICHIGAN
Joe Biden (D) votes 2,787,544 (+69,003)
Gary Peters (D Senate) votes 2,718,541

Donald Trump (R) 2,637,163 (+7,121)
John James (R Senate) 2,630,042

GEORGIA
Biden 2,414,651 (+95,801)
D Senator 2,318,850

Trump 2,432,799 (+818)
R Senator 2,433,617

MONTANA
Biden 243,278 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:270,735

Trump 340,635 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 330,317

NONSWING STATESCurrent update:

MONTANA
Biden 243.719 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:271,209
Dem CD 261,168


Trump 341,767 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 331,414
GOP CD 337,381

WYOMING
Biden (+725)

*****

It would be interesting to see a full analysis on that.

Current update:

MONTANA
Biden 243.719 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:271,209
Dem CD 261,168


Trump 341,767 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 331,414
GOP CD 337,381 (-4,386)

POTUS total:



https://ca.yahoo.com/topics/us-election?cache=clear

Yes, but what about BIDEN?

It is expected that the vote for Senator will closely track vote for President.

When votes diverge is when investigation is useful.

Also, just like in 2004, it isn't necessary to swing the entire USA, just key states. Looking at the USA overall will probably swamp the relevant numbers. You need a state-by-state comparison.

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Friday, November 6, 2020 4:06 PM

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Quote:

Software 'Glitch' In Michigan Erroneously Gave 1000s Of Votes To Biden; Up To 47 Counties Compromised


Software used to tabulate votes cast in 47 Michigan counties erroneously gave 6,000 votes to Joe Biden in Anterim County, according to state GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox.

"In Antrim County, ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a 6,000 vote swing against our candidates. The county clerk came forward and said 'tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the vote.' Since then, we have now discovered the 47 counties used the same software in the same capacity," she said, adding "Antrim County had to hand count all of the ballots, and these counties that used the software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies."

Of note, Trump won Antrim County in 2016 with 62% of the vote vs. 33% for Hillary Clinton.




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Friday, November 6, 2020 4:13 PM

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Quote:

Software 'Glitch' In Michigan Erroneously Gave 1000s Of Votes To Biden; Up To 47 Counties Compromised


Software used to tabulate votes cast in 47 Michigan counties erroneously gave 6,000 votes to Joe Biden in Anterim County, according to state GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox.

"In Antrim County, ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a 6,000 vote swing against our candidates. The county clerk came forward and said 'tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the vote.' Since then, we have now discovered the 47 counties used the same software in the same capacity," she said, adding "Antrim County had to hand count all of the ballots, and these counties that used the software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies."

Of note, Trump won Antrim County in 2016 with 62% of the vote vs. 33% for Hillary Clinton.



PICTURE ID AT THE POLLS
HAND-MARKED VOTES
HAND-COUNTED IN PUBLIC.


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Friday, November 6, 2020 7:25 PM

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WaPo had some exit polls by state, and, well, it's WaPo, but they were the only ones I could get to.

Other places that might have them are https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/exit-polls
-president.html
This link claims AP and Edison Research ran exit polls. https://www.the-sun.com/news/1732552/exit-polls-2020-what-how-work-us-
election
/ "Edison Research conducted this exit poll for the National Election Pool(ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC). The National Election Pool (NEP) members (ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC) prepared the questionnaire." https://s.abcnews.com/assets/dtci/elections/NEPExitPollMethodologyStat
ement.pdf
But of the various members of the NEP I could only find ABC which didn't break the results down by state. https://abcnews.go.com/Elections/exit-polls-2020-us-presidential-elect
ion-results-analysis
This link claimed Reuters/IPSOS did exit polls but didn't provide numbers by state. https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-ELECTION/EXIT-POLL/xegvblddavq/index.
html
This site also didn't break down exit polls by state. https://morningconsult.com/exit-polling-live-updates/ Statista also doesn't seem to have exit polls by sate. https://www.statista.com/search/?q=2020+presidential+election+exit+pol
ls&Search=&qKat=search


In any case, one of the big tipoffs in Bush's election were the big discrepancies between exit polls and vote counts, so I calculated the percentages in the exit polls v the reported percentages, and posted them here: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=51008&p=17

WaPo also had Senate vote exit polls, but I didn't calculate those.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
One interesting thing to look at would be the #of votes for GOP Senators v #votes for Trump. Because if there are a lot more votes for GOP Senators than for Trump, either GOP voters left the "President" box unmarked or split their ticket, (unlikely, most people vote straight ticket) or the Trump vote tally was monkeyed with.

And just for comparison, do the same for #votes for DEM Senators compared to the #votes for Biden. Because if the #votes for Biden vastly exceeds the #votes for DEM Senators, then either DEM voters refused to vote down-ballot (HIGHLY unlikely, most people vote straight ticket and if they're going to hold their nose and vote for a corrupt politico like Joe they'll for sure vote downballot) or the Biden vote tally was monkeyed with.



I guess I'm not the only one to think of using Senate votes as an "internal standard" for the Presidential vote. (All you analytical chemists out there will know what Im talking about.)

Quote:

Why Does Biden Have So Many More Votes Than Democrat Senators In Swing States?

In most elections, the majority of votes are cast "down the ticket" - meaning, a voter supports both party's presidential nominee and state Congressional candidates. In fact, according to Pew Research, "overwhelming shares of voters who are supporting Trump and Biden say they are also supporting the same-party candidate for Senate."

Typically, this means that that the number of votes for a presidential candidate and that party's Senate candidates are relatively close.

Twitter user "US Rebel" (@USRebellion1776), however, found that the number of votes cast for Joe Biden far exceeds those cast for that state's Senate candidates in swing states, while those cast for Trump and GOP Senators remains far closer.

I will present the article data in tabular form for easier reading

SWING STATES
MICHIGAN
Joe Biden (D) votes 2,787,544 (+69,003)
Gary Peters (D Senate) votes 2,718,541

Donald Trump (R) 2,637,163 (+7,121)
John James (R Senate) 2,630,042

GEORGIA
Biden 2,414,651 (+95,801)
D Senator 2,318,850

Trump 2,432,799 (+818)
R Senator 2,433,617

MONTANA
Biden 243,278 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:270,735

Trump 340,635 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 330,317

NONSWING STATESCurrent update:

MONTANA
Biden 243.719 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:271,209
Dem CD 261,168


Trump 341,767 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 331,414
GOP CD 337,381

WYOMING
Biden (+725)

*****

It would be interesting to see a full analysis on that.

Current update:

MONTANA
Biden 243.719 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:271,209
Dem CD 261,168


Trump 341,767 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 331,414
GOP CD 337,381 (-4,386)

POTUS total:



https://ca.yahoo.com/topics/us-election?cache=clear

Yes, but what about BIDEN?

It is expected that the vote for Senator will closely track vote for President.

When votes diverge is when investigation is useful.

Also, just like in 2004, it isn't necessary to swing the entire USA, just key states. Looking at the USA overall will probably swamp the relevant numbers. You need a state-by-state comparison.

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

MICHIGAN
Joe Biden (D) votes 2,787,544 (+69,003)
Gary Peters (D Senate) votes 2,718,541


I hate to rain on your conspiracy parade with some basic maths but, well, no I don't.

69,003 is less than 2.5% of all Biden voters in this state... So 2.5% of voters split their tickets. And?

Quote:

HIGHLY unlikely, most people vote straight ticket

Yeah, about 97.5%, apparently...

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Saturday, November 7, 2020 9:30 AM

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I don't eat food or drink water anymore.

I draw all my nourishment from trumptard tears. They are so sweet and yummy!

Trump lost.

Get over it, snowflake!

Fuck your feelings.

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Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:53 PM

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Wisconsin Clerks May Have Unlawfully Altered Thousands of Absentee Ballots
By Dan O'Donnell
Nov 7, 2020

County and municipal clerks and poll workers across Wisconsin may have unlawfully altered witness statements on thousands of mail-in ballots across the state, "The Dan O'Donnell Show" has learned.

Wisconsin Statute 6.86 provides that an absentee ballot must be signed by a witness, who is also required to list his or her address. If a witness address is not listed, then the ballot is considered invalid and must be returned to the voter to have the witness correct.

Instead, multiple sources tell "The Dan O'Donnell Show," municipal clerks and vote counters across the state simply filled out witness signatures themselves. Acting on false and unlawful advice from the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC), these clerks may have inadvertently invalidated thousands of absentee votes.

"The statute is very, very clear," said retired Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, who worked as a poll watcher in Milwaukee on Election Day. "If an absentee ballot does not have a witness address on it, it's not valid. That ballot is not valid."

The WEC sent uniform instructions to voters with their mail-in ballots that informed them that "your witness must sign and provide their full address (street number, street name, city) in the Certification of Witness section" and warned that "if any of the required information above is missing, your ballot will not be counted."

However, on October 19th, the WEC sent instructions to clerks that they can simply fill in the witness address themselves so that the ballot would not be invalidated.

"Please note that the clerk should attempt to resolve any missing witness address information prior to Election Day if possible, and this can be done through reliable information (personal knowledge, voter registration information, through a phone call with the voter or witness)," WEC wrote. "The witness does not need to appear to add a missing address."

"In defiance of and direct contradiction to the statute, the Wisconsin Elections Commission gave guidance--that is, cover--to all 72 county clerks and turned the statute on his head," Gableman said. "They said, 'Gee, we know the law says an absentee ballot without the witness address is not valid, but county clerk, you have a duty to go ahead and look up on your own the witness' address if there's no address on the absentee ballot."

Anticipating a legal challenge to this seemingly highly unlawful advice, the WEC instructed clerks to write in these witness addresses in red pen so that they would be easy to find during a recount or audit of the vote.

The Republican Party of Wisconsin estimates that thousands of witness addresses may have been changed, thus invalidating the ballots on which they appeared. The statutory remedy for this is to subtract a commensurate number of votes for the candidates for whom those ballots were cast, meaning that vote totals may substantially change.

President Trump's campaign is investigating the scale to which clerks and election workers were altering ballots as well as several other incidents that it has termed "irregularities." President Trump has also publicly called for a recount of Wisconsin's vote.

Former Vice President Joe
https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/
2020-11-07-wisconsin-clerks-may-have-unlawfully-altered-thousands-of-absentee-ballots/Biden
won the state by roughly 20,000 votes, a margin of less than one percent.





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Sunday, November 8, 2020 3:00 PM

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Dan O'Donnell.

Hey, Russian troll. I have a thread that debunks all your bullshit.


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Sunday, November 8, 2020 4:29 PM

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Signy: before it disappears here's a link to exit polls NOT from WaPo.
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-re
sults The nice thing about THIS exit poll is that it looks like it includes all 50 states and Senate votes as well.


Edison Research did the CNN exit poll for CNN, but also ABC, CBS, and NBC in a 'National Election Pool' (link is to info about the National Election Pool http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63976&p=2 )

Since - like WaPo - the NEP exit poll doesn't deal in totals but breaks everything down by 'demographics', you'll have to calculate totals from the male/ female demographics (like I did with the WaPo poll http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=51008&p=17 )

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Monday, November 9, 2020 12:17 PM

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Quote:

"It Defies Logic": Scientist Finds Telltale Signs Of Election Fraud After Analyzing Mail-In Ballot Data

A most interesting thread popped up on Twitter Sunday from a data scientist who wishes to remain anonymous, regarding mail-in ballot data which strongly suggests fraud occurred in the wee hours of election night, when several swing states inexplicably stopped reporting vote counts while President Trump maintained a healthy lead over Joe Biden.

Using time series data 'scraped' from the New York Times website, the data - comparing several states (swing and non-swing) - clearly illustrates what fraud does and does not look like, and how several anomalies in swing states left 'fingerprints of fraud' as Biden pulled ahead of President Trump.

Presented below via @APhilosophae:

The following information is provided via an anonymous data scientist and another anonymous individual who wrote a script to scrape the national ballot counting time series data of off the @nytimes website.
— CulturalHusbandry (@APhilosophae) November 9, 2020

Continued...

This is based on their proprietary "Edison" data source which would ordinarily be impossible to access for people outside the press. The CSV is available here. And the script to generate it is here. I suggest that everyone back up both of these files, bc this is an extremely important data source, and we cant risk anyone taking it down.

What we are looking at will be time series analysis and you will see that it is extremely difficult to create convincing synthetic times series data. By looking at the times series logs of the ballot counting process for the entire country, we can very easily spot fraud.

One of the first things noticed while exploring the dataset is that there seems to be an obvious pattern in the ratio of new #Biden ballots to new #Trump ballots.


As we can see on this log-log plot, for many of the counting progress updates, we see an almost constant ratio of #Biden to #Trump. It's such a regular pattern that we can actually fit a linear regression model to it with near-perfect accuracy, barring some outliers. How could this be possible? Is this a telltale sign of fraud? Surprisingly, as it will be shown, the answer is no! This is actually expected behavior. Also, we can use this weird pattern in the ballot counting to spot fraud!

Here is the same pattern for Florida. We see this linear pattern again.


And again (Texas)


And again (South Dakota)


And again all over the country. What appears to be happening is that points on the straight line are actually mail in votes. The reason they're so homogeneous across with respect to the ratio of #Biden vs #Trump votes is that they get randomly shuffled in the mail like a deck of cards. Since the ballots are randomly mixed together during transport, spanning areas occupied by multiple voting demographics, we can expect the ratio of mail-in #Biden ballots to mail-in #Trump ballots will remain relatively constant over time and across different reporting updates.


Lets dig a little deeper into this:

Here is a plot of the same Florida voting data, but this time it's the ratio of #Biden to #Trump ballots, versus time. What we see is that the initial ballot reportings are very noisy and "random".


The initial reporting represents in-person voting. These vote reports have such large variation bc in-person voting happens across different geographic areas that have different political alignments. We can see this same pattern of noisy in-person voting, followed by homogeneous mail-in reporting in almost all cases. What we see in almost all examples across the country is that the ratio of mail-in Dem to Rep ballots is very consistent across time, but with the notable drift from Dem to slightly more Rep.

This slight drift from D to R mail-ins occurs again and again, and is likely due to outlying rural areas having more R votes. These outlying areas take longer to ship their ballots to the polling centers.


Now we're getting into the really good stuff. When we see mail-in ballot counting where there isn't relatively stable ratios of D and R ballots that slightly drift R, we have an anomaly! Anomalies themselves are not necessarily fraud, but they can help us spot fraud more easily.

Now let's look at some anomalies:

This is the Wisconsin vote counting history log. Again, on the Y axis we have the ratio of D to R ballots in reporting batch, and on the X axis we have reporting time. Around 4am there, there is a marked shift in the ratio of D to R mail-in ballots. Based on other posts in this thread, this should not happen. This is an anomaly, and while anomalies are not always fraud, often they may point to fraud.


Around 3am Wisconsin time, a fresh batch of 169k new absentee ballots arrived. They were supposed to stop accepting new ballots, but eh, whatever I guess.
— CulturalHusbandry (@APhilosophae) November 9, 2020

By 4am the D to R ratio was all thrown out of whack. That is because these ballots were not sampled from the real Wisconsin voter population, and they were not randomized in the mail sorting system with the other ballots. They inherently have a different D to R signature than the rest of the ballots quite possibly bc additional ballots were added to the batch, either through backdating or ballot manufacturing or software tampering. This of this being kind of analogous to carbon-14 dating, but for ballot batch authenticity.

Lets look at another anomaly (Pennsylvania):

Here is Pennsylvania's vote counting history. For the first part of the vote counting process, we see the same pattern for mail-in ballots that we've seen in every other state in the country, which is relatively stable D to R ratio that gradually drifts R as more ballots. But then as counting continues, the D to R ratio in mail-in ballots inexplicably begin "increasing". Again, this should not happen, and it is observed almost nowhere else in the country, because all of the ballots are randomly shuffled in the mail system and should be homogeneous during counting. The only exceptions to this are other suspect states that also have anomalies.
-

Again, this is evidence of ballot backdating, manufacturing of software tampering.

Lets look at another anomaly:

In Georgia we see pretty much the same story as Pennsylvania: increasing fractions of mail-in D ballots over time even though it defies logic and we see this pattern no where else in the country.


In Michigan, we see a combination of Wisconsin strangeness, together with the GA/PA weirdness. We see both signs of contaminated ballot dumping, and ballot ratios drifting toward dems when they should not be.


Virginia:


Now in fairness, VA is the only state out of the 50 that has anomalies but has not had accusations of voter fraud, yet. I think this is the exception that proves the rule. Yet to figure out what causes this anomalous shift, but here it is so no one accuses me of holding it back.

Lets wrap this up: It appears Dems shot themselves in the foot bc making everyone do mail-in ballots actually makes it easier to catch mail-in ballot fraud. Bc all of the ballots go through the postal system, they get shuffled like a deck of cards, so we expect reported ballot return to be extremely UNIFORM in terms of D vs R ratio, but to drift slightly towards R over time bc some of those ballots travel farther. This pattern proves fraud and is a verifiable timestamp of when each fraudulent action occurred.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-te
lltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot


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Monday, November 9, 2020 1:03 PM

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And they STILL have not explained how Joe Biden got so mny more votes than the corresponding Democrat Senator.

Anyway, this is like 2000 and 2004 replayed.

In 2000 there was the "hanging chad" controvery in Florida. After Katherine Harris (R) State Scy did everything she could possibly do to scrub the voter rolls of Democrats and potential Democrats, the vote was still within the error rate of the vote-counting machines.. Then there was the problem of the "butterfly ballot" and the "hanging chad" (both in districts controlled by Democrats, so they created their own problems.) Should election officials recount just Broward County???? The whole state?? There was so much controversy that the Supreme Court stepped in and selected GWB. (Leading to the famous joke Q: What is the difference between Hitler and GWB? A: Hitler was elected")

Anyway, about a year-ish or so later, a consortium of about a half-dozen newpapers paid the have the ENTIRE STATE recounted. And they tabluated the votes using several different scenarios: All corners detatched, three corners detached, two corners detached, one corner detached, and just a dimple.

As it turned out, Dems and Repubs apparently made the same punchout errors equally, because in the end it DIDN'T MATTER about the "hanging chads", what DID matter was a district that used ELECTRONIC VOTING AND VOTE COUNTING. When those votes were recounted, something in the realm of 20,000 votes swung to Al Gore. He would have taken Florida and won the election.

You would have thought that the DNC and Dem election officials would have taken the hint for Bev Harris (Black Box Voting) but... no. That's about the time I started agitatig for HAND MARKED BALLOTS, HAND COUNTED IN PUBLIC.

Then, in 2004, there were once again strange anaomalous votes, where the votes didn't match the exit polls, not by a litle but by a WHOLE LOT, swinging the vote by 6%-10%. This time they happened
a) well beyond the histoic accuracy and statistical uncertainty of exit polling
b) only in states with electronic voting
c) only in swing states
d) and always in favor of Bush

By the time the six statisticians mulled over the chances that this could have happened by error, the only explanation was that this was a case of FRAUD. So much pressure was put on these academic statisticians that only one put his name to the paper, but the paper still stands.

Then, after Obama urged illegal aliens to vote (Don't worry, nobody's going to check) is when I added

PICTURE ID/PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP AT THE POLLS
HAND MARKED BALLLOTS
HAND COUNTED IN PUBLIC.

Our voting system is a mess because we make our voter rolls oh-so-dependent in "which district" you live in. But people move, people-including soldiers- are out of country, students are off at school, and for national and statewide elections it shouldn't matter.

Maybe people should be required to put their ZIP code on their ballot, bring a recent utility bill as verification, and have the ballots sorted that way instead this clunky system of having people registered in two (or more) districts or not taken off the rolls altogether when they move, or die.



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Monday, November 9, 2020 3:02 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reports from AZ officials are that results from Maricopa County have not been turned in yet, and the percent of votes tallied is actually 85%, not 99%.

Also, Trump campaign has filed suit for ongoing shenanigans in MI and PA. In MI for lack of access, and in PA for lack of transparency.

Votes for 2016 Presidential race were 2.4 million in AZ. Currently showing 2.7 votes tallied in this race for AZ.

If AZ is Trump's, then Trump could lose WI and PA and still have 270.

Maricopa in 2016 had over 1.5 million votes for President, with Trump getting 45,000 more than Hilliary.
The current claimed lead in AZ is Obiden with 93,000. Reports are 650,000 votes remaining, and 84% have been reported.

AZ now has Obiden with a 17,000 vote lead with only 150,000 ballots remaining.


This does confirm the Trump team's prognosis that the next 500,000 votes would give Trump a 76,000 vote gain. (more than 15,000 gain per 100,000 votes)
If trend prevails, and more Fake Votes are not collected/stuffed, then the next 150,000 votes would gain Trump another 22,500 - for a 5,500 vote win in AZ.

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Monday, November 9, 2020 3:18 PM

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AZ doesn't matter. Biden has this sewn up.



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Monday, November 9, 2020 4:57 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
One interesting thing to look at would be the #of votes for GOP Senators v #votes for Trump. Because if there are a lot more votes for GOP Senators than for Trump, either GOP voters left the "President" box unmarked or split their ticket, (unlikely, most people vote straight ticket) or the Trump vote tally was monkeyed with.

And just for comparison, do the same for #votes for DEM Senators compared to the #votes for Biden. Because if the #votes for Biden vastly exceeds the #votes for DEM Senators, then either DEM voters refused to vote down-ballot (HIGHLY unlikely, most people vote straight ticket and if they're going to hold their nose and vote for a corrupt politico like Joe they'll for sure vote downballot) or the Biden vote tally was monkeyed with.



I guess I'm not the only one to think of using Senate votes as an "internal standard" for the Presidential vote. (All you analytical chemists out there will know what Im talking about.)

Quote:

Why Does Biden Have So Many More Votes Than Democrat Senators In Swing States?

In most elections, the majority of votes are cast "down the ticket" - meaning, a voter supports both party's presidential nominee and state Congressional candidates. In fact, according to Pew Research, "overwhelming shares of voters who are supporting Trump and Biden say they are also supporting the same-party candidate for Senate."

Typically, this means that that the number of votes for a presidential candidate and that party's Senate candidates are relatively close.

Twitter user "US Rebel" (@USRebellion1776), however, found that the number of votes cast for Joe Biden far exceeds those cast for that state's Senate candidates in swing states, while those cast for Trump and GOP Senators remains far closer.

I will present the article data in tabular form for easier reading

SWING STATES
MICHIGAN
Joe Biden (D) votes 2,787,544 (+69,003)
Gary Peters (D Senate) votes 2,718,541

Donald Trump (R) 2,637,163 (+7,121)
John James (R Senate) 2,630,042

GEORGIA
Biden 2,414,651 (+95,801)
D Senator 2,318,850

Trump 2,432,799 (+818)
R Senator 2,433,617

MONTANA
Biden 243,278 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:270,735

Trump 340,635 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 330,317

NONSWING STATESCurrent update:

MONTANA
Biden 243.719 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:271,209
Dem CD 261,168


Trump 341,767 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 331,414
GOP CD 337,381

WYOMING
Biden (+725)

*****

It would be interesting to see a full analysis on that.

Current update:

MONTANA
Biden 243.719 (+27,457)
Dem Sen:271,209
Dem CD 261,168


Trump 341,767 (+10,318)
GOP Sen 331,414
GOP CD 337,381 (-4,386)

POTUS total:



https://ca.yahoo.com/topics/us-election?cache=clear

Yes, but what about BIDEN?

It is expected that the vote for Senator will closely track vote for President.

When votes diverge is when investigation is useful.

Also, just like in 2004, it isn't necessary to swing the entire USA, just key states. Looking at the USA overall will probably swamp the relevant numbers. You need a state-by-state comparison.

I am sorry. My post was incomplete. I have completed it now.

Please reiterate any problems or discrepancies you find now.
I think that the plus/minus designations for GA, MT are incorrect.

I had intended to show the further data of the Montana Congressional District, which is also a statewide vote. The same number of ballots. I also posted the race totals, because the President in MT seems to have one other candidate (Libertarian), while the others seemed to have only 2 parties. All 3 races were apparently close, and had been projected to be (actually, all projections were for Dems to sweep all 3 races).

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Tuesday, November 10, 2020 2:32 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reports from AZ officials are that results from Maricopa County have not been turned in yet, and the percent of votes tallied is actually 85%, not 99%.

Also, Trump campaign has filed suit for ongoing shenanigans in MI and PA. In MI for lack of access, and in PA for lack of transparency.

Votes for 2016 Presidential race were 2.4 million in AZ. Currently showing 2.7 votes tallied in this race for AZ.

If AZ is Trump's, then Trump could lose WI and PA and still have 270.

Maricopa in 2016 had over 1.5 million votes for President, with Trump getting 45,000 more than Hilliary.
The current claimed lead in AZ is Obiden with 93,000. Reports are 650,000 votes remaining, and 84% have been reported.

AZ now has Obiden with a 17,000 vote lead with only 150,000 ballots remaining.


This does confirm the Trump team's prognosis that the next 500,000 votes would give Trump a 76,000 vote gain. (more than 15,000 gain per 100,000 votes)
If trend prevails, and more Fake Votes are not collected/stuffed, then the next 150,000 votes would gain Trump another 22,500 - for a 5,500 vote win in AZ.

AZ now shows a lead of less than 15,000 for Obiden, with 3.332 million total votes. Still 2% of the vote remaining to be counted.

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Tuesday, November 10, 2020 4:53 PM

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One thing seems certain, this does has not happened before in America, has it? Does anybody know if such a controversy has occurred before?


Where the election stands now:

Obiden seems to have 229 uncontested Electoral Votes. Some Libtards claim that he also has PA, WI, AZ, NV, MI.

Trump seems to have 214 uncontested Electoral Votes so far. AK would make it 217.



AK (3 EV) is still counting ballots. Seems likely that GOP will win President, House, Senate races.

AZ (11EV) seems to be tallying the honest votes, showing Trump as winner. They keep stopping the counting, likely so they can go hunt down some more Dem ballots to stuff in the boxes. If a recount occurs here, McSally might end up winning in the Senate Race.

PA (20EV) Corrupt officials defied clear orders from Supreme Court Justice Alito. It would seem SCOTUS will be weighing in on this. Maybe these corrupt "results" will be invalidated - or at least only in the jurisdictions where they defied, circumvented, bypassed the Law (which is only Liberal jurisdictions). Correcting the illegal vote may move PA-7 and PA-17 back to GOP, like they were before mysterious ballot dumps for Dems only.

WI (10EV) has already had a Trump team request for recount. Recount must wait until Canvass is completed, and WEC is dragging feet. Trump had the lead with the honest vote on Election Day.

MI (16EV) has had some legal challenges, but their laws supporting Election Fraud seem resilient to honesty. Trump had the lead with honest votes on Election Day.

GA (16EV) is still stopping their vote counting regularly after Trump had the handy lead on Election Day, hunting down more and more Fake Votes for Obiden.

NC (15EV) is still counting, but it seems the Libtards won't be able to scrounge up enough Fake Votes to deny Trump.


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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 7:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
One thing seems certain, this does has not happened before in America, has it? Does anybody know if such a controversy has occurred before?


Where the election stands now:

Obiden seems to have 229 uncontested Electoral Votes. Some Libtards claim that he also has PA, WI, AZ, NV, MI.

Trump seems to have 214 uncontested Electoral Votes so far. AK would make it 217.



AK (3 EV) is still counting ballots. Seems likely that GOP will win President, House, Senate races.

AZ (11EV) seems to be tallying the honest votes, showing Trump as winner. They keep stopping the counting, likely so they can go hunt down some more Dem ballots to stuff in the boxes. If a recount occurs here, McSally might end up winning in the Senate Race.

PA (20EV) Corrupt officials defied clear orders from Supreme Court Justice Alito. It would seem SCOTUS will be weighing in on this. Maybe these corrupt "results" will be invalidated - or at least only in the jurisdictions where they defied, circumvented, bypassed the Law (which is only Liberal jurisdictions). Correcting the illegal vote may move PA-7 and PA-17 back to GOP, like they were before mysterious ballot dumps for Dems only.

WI (10EV) has already had a Trump team request for recount. Recount must wait until Canvass is completed, and WEC is dragging feet. Trump had the lead with the honest vote on Election Day.

MI (16EV) has had some legal challenges, but their laws supporting Election Fraud seem resilient to honesty. Trump had the lead with honest votes on Election Day.

GA (16EV) is still stopping their vote counting regularly after Trump had the handy lead on Election Day, hunting down more and more Fake Votes for Obiden.

NC (15EV) is still counting, but it seems the Libtards won't be able to scrounge up enough Fake Votes to deny Trump.


WI is canvassing, with 5 Counties completed. All 72 Counties have deadline of 17 November.

GA is recounting, deadline is 20 Nov.

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:32 PM

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WI is canvassing, with 5 Counties completed. All 72 Counties have deadline of 17 November.

GA is recounting, deadline is 20 Nov.


So, is the plan to miss the deadlines? Not real, Russian troll. Why do you continue to peddle your fake bullshit?



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Thursday, November 12, 2020 3:06 PM

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Each day, I am amazed that the biggest story in American history of our lifetimes, an active coup-in-progress, has disappeared from the Fake News headlines, replaced by the most meaningless drivel imaginable.

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Thursday, November 12, 2020 3:13 PM

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One thing seems certain, this does has not happened before in America, has it? Does anybody know if such a controversy has occurred before?


Where the election stands now:

Obiden seems to have 229 uncontested Electoral Votes. Some Libtards claim that he also has PA, WI, AZ, NV, MI.

Trump seems to have 214 uncontested Electoral Votes so far. AK would make it 217.



AK (3 EV) is still counting ballots. Seems likely that GOP will win President, House, Senate races.

AZ (11EV) seems to be tallying the honest votes, showing Trump as winner. They keep stopping the counting, likely so they can go hunt down some more Dem ballots to stuff in the boxes. If a recount occurs here, McSally might end up winning in the Senate Race.

PA (20EV) Corrupt officials defied clear orders from Supreme Court Justice Alito. It would seem SCOTUS will be weighing in on this. Maybe these corrupt "results" will be invalidated - or at least only in the jurisdictions where they defied, circumvented, bypassed the Law (which is only Liberal jurisdictions). Correcting the illegal vote may move PA-7 and PA-17 back to GOP, like they were before mysterious ballot dumps for Dems only.

WI (10EV) has already had a Trump team request for recount. Recount must wait until Canvass is completed, and WEC is dragging feet. Trump had the lead with the honest vote on Election Day.

MI (16EV) has had some legal challenges, but their laws supporting Election Fraud seem resilient to honesty. Trump had the lead with honest votes on Election Day.

GA (16EV) is still stopping their vote counting regularly after Trump had the handy lead on Election Day, hunting down more and more Fake Votes for Obiden.

NC (15EV) is still counting, but it seems the Libtards won't be able to scrounge up enough Fake Votes to deny Trump.


WI is canvassing, with 5 Counties completed. All 72 Counties have deadline of 17 November.

GA is recounting, deadline is 20 Nov.

MI State Legislators are looking into the Election Fraud.
Same in WI.

AK has finished their counting.

NV claims a 36,000 vote lead for Obiden, with 5% of the vote still not counted. I suppose those are the Trump votes - waiting to count those until after they find out if they need to add more Biden Ballot Box Drops.
NV-04 has a 15,000 vote lead for Dem with only 80% of the vote counted. Total of 315,456 votes. There were 265K in 2016.

The "hand recount" in GA is described this way: The ballots are looked at and placed into stacks, for Biden, Trump, this Senator, the other, etc. Then the voting machine only counts the number of ballots running through, not doing any scanning.

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Thursday, November 12, 2020 3:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Software 'Glitch' In Michigan Erroneously Gave 1000s Of Votes To Biden; Up To 47 Counties Compromised


Software used to tabulate votes cast in 47 Michigan counties erroneously gave 6,000 votes to Joe Biden in Anterim County, according to state GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox.

"In Antrim County, ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a 6,000 vote swing against our candidates. The county clerk came forward and said 'tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the vote.' Since then, we have now discovered the 47 counties used the same software in the same capacity," she said, adding "Antrim County had to hand count all of the ballots, and these counties that used the software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies."

Of note, Trump won Antrim County in 2016 with 62% of the vote vs. 33% for Hillary Clinton.




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This Dominion software was not ony used in 47 Counties in MI, but also in 28 other States as well.

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Thursday, November 12, 2020 3:30 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/20/benson-aske
d-investigate-detroit-perfect-storm-voting-problems/5616629002
/


Jocelyn Benson is the Soros-puppet Secretary of State from the 2018 election. Previously it was a post held by competent people.

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Recorded ballot counts in 72% of Detroit's absentee voting precincts didn't match the number of ballots cast, spurring officials in Michigan's largest county to ask the state to investigate



In this Presidential Election, Detroit poll workers refused to count while honest poll observers were present, only when Dem poll watchers were standing guard against honest observers. Dem poll watchers outnumbered honest poll observers 3:1, and liberal activists were recruited as "independent" poll watchers. If honest poll observers adjusted their masks, they were removed immediately and the whole room cheered the removal of any honest poll watcher.

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Friday, November 13, 2020 2:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


This is a very informative story:
https://www.headlineoftheday.com/2020/11/12/mit-scientists-data-analys
is-of-election-fraud-in-mi-shows-69000-votes-were-transferred-from-trump-to-biden
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Federal election statues dictate that all election records must be held for 22 months. However, Dr. Ayyadurai discovered that many states do not retain the ballot images produced by the machines. The default settings of the machines automatically store the ballot images, so this means election officials are manually disabling the image storage feature.

Because ballot images are not being retained in states like MA and MI, the election results cannot be meaningfully audited, leaving ambiguity as to the actual election outcome. The only way to audit the results of an election without ballot images would be to manually count the ballots, which is very difficult to do.

Dr. Ayyadurai learned that in 2001, a weighted race feature was added to Global Election Systems (GEMS 1.18.1) voting systems. This feature allows elections to be skewed to one candidate or another based on the settings of the software. This is not a hack, but a built-in FEATURE of the software. Why this feature exists in US ballot tabulation machines has never been explained.

Not only does the software allow for the weighting of election outcomes, but the way votes are stored and counted is also problematic. The systems store the votes as fractional decimals instead of whole numbers. This means the machines can be set to tabulate half a vote, which makes no sense at all, yet that’s how they were designed.

After voting “glitches” were reported in Michigan, Dr. Ayyadurai’s team decided to analyze the top four counties in MI for irregularities. They looked at data from Oakland, Macomb, Kent and Wayne counties. What they found was absolutely shocking. Data analytics show, at a minimum, 69,000 votes were TRANSFERRED from Trump to Biden in these four counties, in a pattern that is consistent with algorithmic weighting of a race.




And other excellent stories from this informative site:
https://www.headlineoftheday.com/2020/11/12/data-deep-dive-on-dominion
-voting-systems-offers-incontrovertible-proof-of-election-hack
/

https://www.headlineoftheday.com/2020/11/13/arizona-republican-party-f
iles-lawsuit-to-enforce-hand-count-by-precinct
/

https://www.headlineoftheday.com/2020/11/13/dominion-systems-can-tweak
-results
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https://www.headlineoftheday.com/2020/11/13/watch-how-unsecure-dominio
n-voting-machines-are-combine-this-with-how-aggressively-democrats-were-to-keep-poll-watchers-away-in-pennsylvania-video
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Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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The Georgia Recount May Be As Corrupt As The Election Itself
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by Tyler Durden

Authored by Andrea Widburg via AmericanThinker.com,

On Friday morning, Georgia began to recount the votes it received on November 3. However, within a short time, reports came in that the recount process was being conducted with as little respect for transparency as the original vote count. Without that transparency, this recount is a waste of taxpayer time and money.

Before getting to the problem with the recount itself, we need to be sure we're all on the same page about what's happening in Georgia, so some background is necessary. In my post about the two different types of election fraud, I explained that the first type of fraud goes to ballot legitimacy.

That is, was the piece of paper that got fed into the counting machine from a duly registered voter? If not, that vote cannot be counted.

We know from the affidavits flooding in from across the country that the Democrats used the Wuhan virus to justify mailing out millions of ballots to anyone on the voter registers, whether that person had since died, moved on, or lost interest in voting. Because voter rolls are chock-full of such voters, mass mailings meant that thousand, tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of ballots were floating around in mail-in states, free for anyone to grab and submit.

Democrats made this fraud possible because they have steadily chipped away at other election legitimacy gatekeepers, such as identification checks and signature matches. In Democrat-run states, voting became as easy and as vulnerable to fraud as going to a shopping mall, filling out names on slips of paper, and sticking them in a big bucket for a promotional "drawing" for a bike or car. Or, even better, mailing hundreds of completed slips of paper to your buddy at the car dealer for him to put in the bucket. That's how Democrat states ran their elections in 2020.

So here's what's important to know about Georgia's recount: the recount will do nothing to correct this first type of fraud. The process of vetting voters was wholly corrupt, and there is no way to disentangle the illegitimate from the legitimate ballots during the recount.

The second type of fraud involves counting. Data-crunchers have produced powerful evidence that electronic voting machines in contested states were set to switch votes from Trump to Biden. Valentine has an accessible rundown of that type of fraud here. What's good about computer fraud is that, while it can be hidden on a small scale, on a large scale, it leaves unmistakable clues. (You can read more about these clues here and here.) There's strong evidence that the same pro-Biden code that showed up in Michigan also affected votes in Georgia.

In theory, while it won't winnow out illegitimate ballots, a hand recount will at least prevent a repeat of the computer counting fraud. However, that works only if the humans doing the counting don't cheat.

The best way to prevent humans from is to watch them. Indeed, those of you old enough to remember the Florida recount in 2000 will also remember that the media wandered freely through the counting rooms, getting close-ups of people carefully examining each ballot for those infamous hanging chads. Everyone understood that the point was to get it right.

What happens, though, when the people in charge of the recount, in place of transparency, once again refuse to allow representatives of the parties to audit their work? What happens is this:

In a brief video that I can't embed but that you can view here, Dick Morris explains that there is more going on than just barring Republicans from observing the vote. In addition, to the extent there are still available envelopes from the mailed in (absentee) ballots, secretary of state Brad Raffensperger stated that the counters would not attempt to match the signatures.

The refusal to check signatures or otherwise try to validate mail-in ballots has created hugely anomalous rejection rates. Typically, Georgia rejects 3.5% of absentee ballots because they cannot be validated. This year, says Morris, the rejection rate is 0.002%. As Morris said, with nothing more, that discrepancy points to vast fraud.

Not content with removing these fraud controls, Raffensberger also ordered the counties to finish the process by 3 P.M. on Saturday. Georgia received roughly 5 million votes. It's ludicrous to believe they can properly be recounted in one and a half days. This isn't a recount; it's fraud theater.




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Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:17 PM

SIGNYM

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Las Vegas Columnist Ran A Test And County Officials Accepted Fake Signatures On 8 Different Ballots

Authored by Victor Joecks via The Las Vegas Review Journal

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Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:20 PM

SIGNYM

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PICTURE ID AT THE POLLS
HAND MARKED BALLOTS
HAND COUNTED IN PUBLIC

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Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:37 PM

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Las Vegas Columnist Ran A Test And County Officials Accepted Fake Signatures On 8 Different Ballots

Authored by Victor Joecks via The Las Vegas Review Journal

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I found it on Infowars.



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Monday, November 16, 2020 3:09 AM

SIGNYM

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Former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell, a Trump campaign lawyer, suggested in a Sunday interview that the president’s legal team is receiving a deluge of evidence concerning voter fraud and irregularities.

“We’re getting ready to overturn election results in multiple states,” Powell said on Fox Business, adding that she has enough evidence of election fraud to launch a widespread criminal investigation. “I don’t make comments without having the evidence to back it up.”

Powell claimed that elections software switched “millions of votes” from President Donald Trump to Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

Powell is notably the counsel to former national security advisor Michael Flynn, engineering a stunning comeback with the Department of Justice moving to drop charges.

Powell said a whistleblower has come forward alleging that the voting software was designed to “rig elections.”

“He saw it happen in other countries,” she said, apparently referring to election hardware and software by Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic, or perhaps other software and machines.

“We have so much evidence, I feel like it’s coming in through a fire hose.” She declined to elaborate when prompted by Fox News host Maria Bartiromo.

“They can stick a thumb drive in the [voting] machine, they can upload software to it even from the Internet … from Germany or Venezuela even,” Powell said, adding that operations “can watch votes in real-time” and “can shift votes in real-time,” or alleged bad actors can “remote access anything.”

“We’ve identified mathematically the exact algorithm they’ve used—and planned to use from the beginning” that allegedly switched votes to Biden, Powell said.

Powell also referred to a 2019 investigation by Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), as well as other Democratic lawmakers into Dominion Voting Systems, Election Systems & Software, and Hart InterCivic. The senators had expressed concerns about the security of the voting systems.

“(W)e have concerns about the spread and effect of private equity investment in many sectors of the economy, including the election technology industry—an integral part of our nation’s democratic process,” wrote the lawmakers in their letters to the firms about a year ago. “These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack.”

Later in the Sunday morning interview, Powell said that her team has “detected voting irregularities that are inexplicable” in states where officials believe they have valid systems.
trump and bidenFormer federal prosecutor Sidney Powell, a Trump campaign lawyer, suggested in a Sunday interview that the president’s legal team is receiving a deluge of evidence concerning voter fraud and irregularities.

“We’re getting ready to overturn election results in multiple states,” Powell said on Fox Business, adding that she has enough evidence of election fraud to launch a widespread criminal investigation. “I don’t make comments without having the evidence to back it up.”

Powell claimed that elections software switched “millions of votes” from President Donald Trump to Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

Powell is notably the counsel to former national security advisor Michael Flynn, engineering a stunning comeback with the Department of Justice moving to drop charges.

Powell said a whistleblower has come forward alleging that the voting software was designed to “rig elections.”

“He saw it happen in other countries,” she said, apparently referring to election hardware and software by Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic, or perhaps other software and machines.

“We have so much evidence, I feel like it’s coming in through a fire hose.” She declined to elaborate when prompted by Fox News host Maria Bartiromo.

“They can stick a thumb drive in the [voting] machine, they can upload software to it even from the Internet … from Germany or Venezuela even,” Powell said, adding that operations “can watch votes in real-time” and “can shift votes in real-time,” or alleged bad actors can “remote access anything.”

“We’ve identified mathematically the exact algorithm they’ve used—and planned to use from the beginning” that allegedly switched votes to Biden, Powell said.

Powell also referred to a 2019 investigation by Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), as well as other Democratic lawmakers into Dominion Voting Systems, Election Systems & Software, and Hart InterCivic. The senators had expressed concerns about the security of the voting systems.

“(W)e have concerns about the spread and effect of private equity investment in many sectors of the economy, including the election technology industry—an integral part of our nation’s democratic process,” wrote the lawmakers in their letters to the firms about a year ago. “These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack.”

Later in the Sunday morning interview, Powell said that her team has “detected voting irregularities that are inexplicable” in states where officials believe they have valid systems.

MORE AT https://m.theepochtimes.com/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-were-getting-re
ady-to-overturn-election-results-in-multiple-states_3579599.html


PICTURE ID AT THE POLLS
HAND MARKED BALLOTS
HAND COUNTED IN PUBLIC

WHY WOULD YOU WANT ANYTHING ELSE?

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Monday, November 16, 2020 3:31 AM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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I found it on Infowars.


Of course you did, despite ALL the information given you!

You couldn't find you own ass if you used both hands.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/opinion-columns/victor-joecks/vi
ctor-joecks-clark-county-election-officials-accepted-my-signature-on-8-ballot-envelopes-2182390
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RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

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Monday, November 16, 2020 3:48 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell, a Trump campaign lawyer, suggested in a Sunday interview that the president’s legal team is receiving a deluge of evidence concerning voter fraud and irregularities.

“We’re getting ready to overturn election results in multiple states,” Powell said on Fox Business, adding that she has enough evidence of election fraud to launch a widespread criminal investigation. “I don’t make comments without having the evidence to back it up.”

Powell claimed that elections software switched “millions of votes” from President Donald Trump to Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

Powell is notably the counsel to former national security advisor Michael Flynn, engineering a stunning comeback with the Department of Justice moving to drop charges.

Powell said a whistleblower has come forward alleging that the voting software was designed to “rig elections.”

“He saw it happen in other countries,” she said, apparently referring to election hardware and software by Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic, or perhaps other software and machines.

“We have so much evidence, I feel like it’s coming in through a fire hose.” She declined to elaborate when prompted by Fox News host Maria Bartiromo.

“They can stick a thumb drive in the [voting] machine, they can upload software to it even from the Internet … from Germany or Venezuela even,” Powell said, adding that operations “can watch votes in real-time” and “can shift votes in real-time,” or alleged bad actors can “remote access anything.”

“We’ve identified mathematically the exact algorithm they’ve used—and planned to use from the beginning” that allegedly switched votes to Biden, Powell said.

Powell also referred to a 2019 investigation by Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), as well as other Democratic lawmakers into Dominion Voting Systems, Election Systems & Software, and Hart InterCivic. The senators had expressed concerns about the security of the voting systems.

“(W)e have concerns about the spread and effect of private equity investment in many sectors of the economy, including the election technology industry—an integral part of our nation’s democratic process,” wrote the lawmakers in their letters to the firms about a year ago. “These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack.”

Later in the Sunday morning interview, Powell said that her team has “detected voting irregularities that are inexplicable” in states where officials believe they have valid systems.
trump and bidenFormer federal prosecutor Sidney Powell, a Trump campaign lawyer, suggested in a Sunday interview that the president’s legal team is receiving a deluge of evidence concerning voter fraud and irregularities.

“We’re getting ready to overturn election results in multiple states,” Powell said on Fox Business, adding that she has enough evidence of election fraud to launch a widespread criminal investigation. “I don’t make comments without having the evidence to back it up.”

Powell claimed that elections software switched “millions of votes” from President Donald Trump to Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

Powell is notably the counsel to former national security advisor Michael Flynn, engineering a stunning comeback with the Department of Justice moving to drop charges.

Powell said a whistleblower has come forward alleging that the voting software was designed to “rig elections.”

“He saw it happen in other countries,” she said, apparently referring to election hardware and software by Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic, or perhaps other software and machines.

“We have so much evidence, I feel like it’s coming in through a fire hose.” She declined to elaborate when prompted by Fox News host Maria Bartiromo.

“They can stick a thumb drive in the [voting] machine, they can upload software to it even from the Internet … from Germany or Venezuela even,” Powell said, adding that operations “can watch votes in real-time” and “can shift votes in real-time,” or alleged bad actors can “remote access anything.”

“We’ve identified mathematically the exact algorithm they’ve used—and planned to use from the beginning” that allegedly switched votes to Biden, Powell said.

Powell also referred to a 2019 investigation by Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), as well as other Democratic lawmakers into Dominion Voting Systems, Election Systems & Software, and Hart InterCivic. The senators had expressed concerns about the security of the voting systems.

“(W)e have concerns about the spread and effect of private equity investment in many sectors of the economy, including the election technology industry—an integral part of our nation’s democratic process,” wrote the lawmakers in their letters to the firms about a year ago. “These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack.”

Later in the Sunday morning interview, Powell said that her team has “detected voting irregularities that are inexplicable” in states where officials believe they have valid systems.

MORE AT https://m.theepochtimes.com/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-were-getting-re
ady-to-overturn-election-results-in-multiple-states_3579599.html




Nuff said.

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