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Trump Best Not Underestimate Biden's Debate Ability

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 9:57 PM

JONGSSTRAW


It turns out that Creepy Uncle Joe is a damn good debater. No one knows this because no one actually watched the Demorat debates. But closer review of what actually occurred there reveals that Biden's got a few tricks up his sleeve, or maybe somewhere else …..







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Saturday, September 26, 2020 11:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I dunno though. I think Pete Bootyjudge's bleached asshole trump's Uncle Joey's hairy legs.

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 3:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Funny!

But yanno, what I thought was interesting was that they captured mostof the candidates' "normal" expressions ... Bernie's scowl, Warren's schoolmarmish pursed lips, Booty-judge's arched eyebrows... and make it look like a reaction to the "hairy legs" song.

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 4:01 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


This is where the "hairy legs" meme comes from. I listened to this and thought whaaaaat???



It's like one of those inexplicable and inappropriate anecdotes that your strange uncle tells at Thanksgiving dinner, followed by awkward silence and then everyone chattering at once to quickly put it in the past.

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Monday, September 28, 2020 3:09 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just to add: Trump doesn't get a free pass, either. When I listen to him (which I don't do very often) I also sometimes get a "Whaaaaat??" reaction. It's about different things ... Joe Biden is just plain off-the-wall and creepy; Trump is different ... but neither person sticks to the truth.

OTOH, TRUMP didn't turn Ukraine into a family piggy-bank, didn't create several failed states, didn't set up surveillance on every person in the USA, didn't maintain a "kill list", and didn't offshore jobs to China. So there's that.

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Monday, September 28, 2020 8:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

OTOH, TRUMP didn't turn Ukraine into a family piggy-bank, didn't create several failed states, didn't set up surveillance on every person in the USA, didn't maintain a "kill list", and didn't offshore jobs to China. So there's that.

It just so happens that everything Signym wrote is false. www.npr.org/2020/09/23/916021299/gop-report-hunter-bidens-ukraine-job-
problematic-effect-on-policy-unclear


On the other hand, there is a "family piggy-bank" and it is NOT the Biden family. Reporters put the pieces together as to how Trump was trying to snooker the IRS.

Just to name one example, Buettner, Craig, and McIntire sussed out that mysterious write-offs for consulting fees on certain Trump projects matched the amounts of payments to Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump. And there’s far more in the Times’ excellent piece.

One major theme of the Times piece is that the IRS audit of Trump is extremely serious, and that he could end up owing the US government more than $100 million. So reporters’ scrutiny of his tax returns might not just be politically problematic for Trump — they could also be financially and legally problematic.

www.vox.com/2020/9/27/21458945/trump-tax-returns-new-york-times-ivanka

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Monday, September 28, 2020 8:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol Yeah. They all committed a felony.

This will be amusing.



One more night until Biden's other eyeball explodes.

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Monday, September 28, 2020 9:38 AM

JONGSSTRAW


No way Biden doesn't completely melt down at the debate. He's an empty-headed career politician who hasn't done anything except tell lie after lie for 50 years. Like the big lie that he attended Delaware State, an historically Black college. He didn't according to the Dean who checked their records. Also been lying for decades about his wife's car crash that he says was due to a drunk driver. Police report says nothing about a drunk driver, but it does blame his wife for the deadly crash.

And then there's The Thing ! …….


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Monday, September 28, 2020 4:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Good thing the Libtard Voting Deadline is one day away. All Libtards need to get their Votes in before any Debate.

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Monday, September 28, 2020 6:14 PM

JONGSSTRAW


The biggest libtard at this debate will be moderator Chris Wallace. He used to be a pretty solid and reliable journalist, but in the last few years he's changed into a little wuss anti-Trumper. I expect he will softball Biden while trying to trap and embarrass Trump. Not that these debates matter; Biden's campaign is on life support and Trump is stronger than ever.

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 5:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


4 years ago the big rage was the Vagina Hats because Hilliary was failing.

What kind of hat will represent Dementia Joe after tonight's meltdown?

Will Libtards burn down more cities? Jump from skyscrapers?

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 6:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
4 years ago the big rage was the Vagina Hats because Hilliary was failing.

What kind of hat will represent Dementia Joe after tonight's meltdown?



Dunce Cap.



All the Democrats have to do is dust off their caps from their KKK outfits and cut the face part off.

Quote:

Will Libtards burn down more cities? Jump from skyscrapers?



Yes.

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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:20 PM

REAVERFAN


Given the debate I just saw, the OP is true.

Biden roasted Trump, though he wasn't as mean about it as he should have been.

Damn polite Democrats...



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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Should have made the prediction that you would have thought so.

lol

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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At the end of the day, if nothing else is remembered from this debate, Trump got Biden to shit on the Green New Deal on national TV.

He didn't only say that he doesn't support it. He outright scoffed at it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 1:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
At the end of the day, if nothing else is remembered from this debate, Trump got Biden to shit on the Green New Deal on national TV.

He didn't only say that he doesn't support it. He outright scoffed at it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I'm going to remember this because Trump was talking nonsense about the VA Hospitals:

President Donald J. Trump: (09:39)
Joe, you’ve had 308,000 military people dying because you couldn’t provide them proper healthcare in the military. So don’t tell me about this.

Vice President Joe Biden: (09:47)
I’m happy to talk about this.

President Donald J. Trump: (09:48)
And if you were here, it wouldn’t be 200, it would be two million people because you were very late on the draw. You didn’t want me to ban China, which was heavily infected. You didn’t want me to ban Europe.

Chris Wallace: (09:58)
All right, gentlemen, Mr. President.

President Donald J. Trump: (10:00)
You would have been much later, Joe, much later.

Chris Wallace: (10:04)
Mr. President.

President Donald J. Trump: (10:04)
We’re talking about two million people.

Vice President Joe Biden: (10:05)
You’re not going to be able to shut him up.

Chris Wallace: (10:06)
Mr. President, as the moderator, we are going to talk about COVID in the next segment. But go ahead.

www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-d
ebate-transcript-2020


After 20 seconds of Trump blathering, I had to turn it off.

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 1:37 AM

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The first 2020 presidential debate Tuesday night in Cleveland featured an avalanche of lies from President Donald Trump — while Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden was largely accurate in his statements, though he did make some false or misleading claims.

There were times, particularly during the conclusion of the debate, when almost every comment from Trump was inaccurate. Most of his false claims were ones he’s made before and which have been repeatedly fact-checked and found to be false, rather than one-time slips or gaffes.

www.abc17news.com/politics/national-politics/2020/09/30/fact-check-bid
en-and-trump-comments-at-the-first-debate
/

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:06 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I'm going to remember this...







Quote:

After 20 seconds of Trump blathering, I had to turn it off.



Figures.

I watched the whole thing. I'm sure you'll get your echo chamber "facts" from your Leftist propaganda outfits tomorrow.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 7:01 AM

REAVERFAN


Trump refuses to condemn his Nazi thugs.



He lies, then tells his Nazi hordes to "stand back and stand by." -Dogwhistling to his murderous brown shirts.

We know that when he loses, Trump will pretend the election wasn't legitimate, and his idiot Nazi soldiers will go around killing people. That's what they want.





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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 7:06 AM

REAVERFAN


Trump claims in debate ‘Portland Sheriff’ gave him endorsement; Reese quickly responds: I ‘will never support him’
https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2020/09/trump-claims-in-debate-por
tland-sheriff-gave-him-endorsement-reese-quickly-responds-i-will-never-support-him.html


Is there anything Trump doesn't lie about?



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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 7:07 AM

REAVERFAN


Best line of the night.



I feel ya, Joe.



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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 7:09 AM

REAVERFAN




It's funny 'cuz it's true.



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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 7:23 AM

REAVERFAN




Proud boys.

I think that "Twink for Trump" better read up on what Hitler did to the gay Nazis once he no longer needed them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives





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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 7:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I'm going to remember this...



Quote:

After 20 seconds of Trump blathering, I had to turn it off.



Figures.

I watched the whole thing. I'm sure you'll get your echo chamber "facts" from your Leftist propaganda outfits tomorrow.

You missed the point completely, 6ix, which was when President Donald J. Trump said at (09:39)
"Joe, you’ve had 308,000 military people dying because you couldn’t provide them proper healthcare in the military. So don’t tell me about this." (That's where I turned on the debate.)
www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-d
ebate-transcript-2020


Trump pulled out of the air the FAKE number 308,000 veterans died only to have a bigger number than Biden's 200,000 died from Covid-19. Trump is talking nonsense about the Veterans Administration and the debate moderator tried to get Trump to wait for his turn to speak, but Trump won't stop. Do I want a president who will make sure that, in a dangerous world, none of our enemies will be able to complete a sentence?

The transcript clearly shows there are no hugely important facts in the debate, other than Trump is crazy: www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-d
ebate-transcript-2020


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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 7:34 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
At the end of the day, if nothing else is remembered from this debate, Trump got Biden to shit on the Green New Deal on national TV.



Oh Noz! Biden doesn't like the Green New Deal! lol That's your big take away?? You found one little crumb amongst all of Trump's sh*t spew - good one. 'Cuz if the Green New Deal happens... what? Your life of sitting on your @ss all day might come to and end? 6stringFeelz just can't stop caring. What a tool.

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
At the end of the day, if nothing else is remembered from this debate, Trump got Biden to shit on the Green New Deal on national TV.



Oh Noz! Biden doesn't like the Green New Deal! lol That's your big take away?? You found one little crumb amongst all of Trump's sh*t spew - good one. 'Cuz if the Green New Deal happens... what? Your life of sitting on your @ss all day might come to and end? 6stringFeelz just can't stop caring. What a tool.

What actually was said? This:

Vice President Joe Biden: (59:08)
No, I don’t support the Green New Deal.

President Donald J. Trump: (59:10)
Oh, you don’t? Oh, well, that’s a big statement.

Vice President Joe Biden: (59:12)
I support [crosstalk 00:05:13]-

President Donald J. Trump: (59:13)
You just lost the radical left.

Vice President Joe Biden: (59:15)
I support [crosstalk 00:59:17] the Biden plan that I put forward.

Chris Wallace: (59:19)
Okay.

Vice President Joe Biden: (59:19)
The Biden plan, which is different than what he calls the radical Green New Deal.

www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-d
ebate-transcript-2020


What is the "Biden Plan"? https://joebiden.com/climate-plan/
The Biden Plan for a Clean Energy Revolution and Environmental Justice

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 7:39 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I watched the whole thing.



lol

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 7:48 AM

REAVERFAN


Trump did himself no favors with his asshole display.

Undecided voters describe Trump as a 'crackhead,' 'arrogant' in post-debate focus group
https://theweek.com/speedreads/940618/undecided-voters-describe-trump-
crackhead-arrogant-postdebate-focus-group


In all, from 17 voters in swing states, 15 used negative words and just two used positive words or phrases to describe the president (that is, if you consider "an ass but a confident ass" to be a compliment).



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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 8:20 AM

REAVERFAN


Why Trump resorted to torching the debate
Unlike in 2016, he lacks a clear message or line of attack against his opponent. What remained was bullying, interruptions and ad hominem provocations.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/30/trump-debate-tactics-423547

Joe said it best: "You have no plan."




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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 8:27 AM

REAVERFAN




Not only has he never denounced white supremacy, he called them "good people", he called them "patriots", and - oh yeah -- he literally campaigned on racism towards Hispanics, has interned hispanic children, and has directed ethnic cleansing. Why are they still fucking surprised? I swear to god, some people really need a fucking signed and notarized certificate of white supremacy before they get the fucking hint that an obvious racist is indeed a racist.



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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 8:30 AM

REAVERFAN


Donald Trump ensures first presidential debate is national humiliation
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/30/trump-debate-national-
humiliation-analysis


It was. Trump is losing more and more support every day, and he did himself no favors last night.



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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:19 AM

REAVERFAN


Biden raises a record $3.8 million in 1 hour during debate with Trump
https://www.axios.com/biden-raises-record-38-million-trump-debate-7d46
07e5-81b1-43cc-a065-37b2b41e6f36.html


The writing is on the wall. Trump is hated by all rational people, worldwide.



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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol

Keep believing them when they tell you that Biden won the debate.

Their only bar for declaring it a Biden win was that he didn't fall off the stage and he didn't have a total brain meltdown.




Just keep two things in mind...

They said that Hillary won all 3 debates in 2016.

They also said that Mitt Romney beat Obama in the first debate in 2012.



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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Keep believing them when they tell you that Biden won the debate.

Their only bar for declaring it a Biden win was that he didn't fall off the stage and he didn't have a total brain meltdown.




Just keep two things in mind...

They said that Hillary won all 3 debates in 2016.

They also said that Mitt Romney beat Obama in the first debate in 2012.

There was no prizes to win, but Trump did prove himself mentally unstable, unable to control himself when asked to stop talking over the moderator's questions and Biden's answers. If you read the actual words coming out of Trump's mouth, he proved himself to be stupid. 6ix, try reading Trump to see what I mean:

President Donald J. Trump: (01:05:14)
You either do, Chris, a solicited ballot, where you’re sending it in, they’re sending it back and you’re sending. They have mailmen with lots of it. Did you see what’s going on? Take a look at West Virginia, mailman selling the ballots. They’re being sold. They’re being dumped in rivers. This is a horrible thing for our country.

Trump is woozy, disoriented, drunk.

www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-d
ebate-transcript-2020



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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:53 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Trump punched and punched hoping for a knockout blow, but it never happened. That ill-planned aggressive approach allowed Biden to not answer Moderator questions and still appear able and competent. All in all the debate was a Horror Show. It was ugly, moronic, and embarrassing. I wish I could get those two hours back, and if I never see that douche-of-a-moderator Chris Wallace again it'll be too soon.

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Keep believing them when they tell you that Biden won the debate.


No one told me what to believe. I watched it. Biden won, though he let Trump interrupt him too much.

Wallace was a terrible moderator. Terrible. Trump acted like a spoiled child the whole time, and Wallace just let him. Pathetic.

Worst debate in history.


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Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Trump punched and punched hoping for a knockout blow, but it never happened. That ill-planned aggressive approach allowed Biden to not answer Moderator questions and still appear able and competent. All in all the debate was a Horror Show. It was ugly, moronic, and embarrassing. I wish I could get those two hours back, and if I never see that douche-of-a-moderator Chris Wallace again it'll be too soon.

Chris Wallace made it very clear that Trump can't give straight answers to simple questions and can't stop talking. For example:

President Donald J. Trump: (01:08:16)
I’m urging my supporters to go in to the polls and watch very carefully, because that’s what has to happen. I am urging them to do it. As you know, today there was a big problem. In Philadelphia, they went in to watch. They’re called poll watchers, a very safe, very nice thing. They were thrown out. They weren’t allowed to watch. You know why? Because bad things happen in Philadelphia. Bad things. And I am urging my people. I hope it’s going to be a fair election. If it’s a fair election-

Chris Wallace: (01:08:44)
You’re urging them what?

President Donald J. Trump: (01:08:45)
… I am 100% on board. But if I see tens of thousands of ballots being manipulated, I can’t go along with that. And I’ll tell you why-

Chris Wallace: (01:08:53)
What does that mean, not go along-

President Donald J. Trump: (01:08:53)
… from a common sense-

Chris Wallace: (01:08:54)
Does that mean you’re going to tell your people-

President Donald J. Trump: (01:08:55)
I’ll tell you what it means-

Chris Wallace: (01:08:55)
… to take to the streets?

President Donald J. Trump: (01:08:56)
It means you have a fraudulent election. You’re sending out 80 million ballots-

Chris Wallace: (01:09:00)
And what would you do about that?

President Donald J. Trump: (01:09:01)
They’re not equipped… These people aren’t equipped to handle it, number one. Number two, they cheat. They cheat. Hey, they found ballots in a wastepaper basket three days ago, and they all had the name military ballots. There were military. They all had the name Trump on them.

Chris Wallace: (01:09:17)
Vice President Biden-

President Donald J. Trump: (01:09:17)
You think that’s good?

Chris Wallace: (01:09:18)
Vice President Biden, final question for you. Will you urge your supporters to stay calm while the vote is counted? And will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?

Vice President Joe Biden: (01:09:30)
Yes. And here’s the deal. We count the ballots, as you pointed out. Some of these ballots in some states can’t even be opened until election day. And if there’s thousands of ballots, it’s going to take time to do it. And by the way, our military… They’ve been voting by ballots since the end of the Civil War, in effect. And that’s what’s going to happen. Why is it, for them, somehow not fraudulent. It’s the same process. It’s honest. No one has established at all that there is fraud related to mail-in ballots, that somehow it’s a fraudulent process.

President Donald J. Trump: (01:10:07)
It’s already been established. Take a look at Carolyn Maloney’s race-

Chris Wallace: (01:10:10)
I asked you. You had an opportunity to respond [crosstalk 01:10:13]. Go ahead [crosstalk 01:10:14]. Vice President Biden, go ahead.

www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-d
ebate-transcript-2020


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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Trump punched and punched hoping for a knockout blow, but it never happened. That ill-planned aggressive approach allowed Biden to not answer Moderator questions and still appear able and competent. All in all the debate was a Horror Show. It was ugly, moronic, and embarrassing. I wish I could get those two hours back, and if I never see that douche-of-a-moderator Chris Wallace again it'll be too soon.



Ha ha ha - Wallace had no idea what was happening.

Oh, almost forgot: Trump's a lying sack of sh*t. Worst president ever. Most hateful, bullying, lying, murders Americans, cities are on fire, unemployment is effed, economy is sliding, stock market is the last thing unf*cked and is likely going to crumble. And now he's threatening violence with an armed group of Momma's Boys playing with guns if he doesn't get what he wants. He's totally f*cking up this country. Hard for me to imagine that the joy of hating Democrats makes up for all that.

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Trump punched and punched hoping for a knockout blow, but it never happened. That ill-planned aggressive approach allowed Biden to not answer Moderator questions and still appear able and competent. All in all the debate was a Horror Show. It was ugly, moronic, and embarrassing. I wish I could get those two hours back, and if I never see that douche-of-a-moderator Chris Wallace again it'll be too soon.



Ha ha ha - Wallace had no idea what was happening.

Oh, almost forgot: Trump's a lying sack of sh*t. Worst president ever. Most hateful, bullying, lying, murders Americans, cities are on fire, unemployment is effed, economy is sliding, stock market is the last thing unf*cked and is likely going to crumble. And now he's threatening violence with an armed group of Momma's Boys playing with guns if he doesn't get what he wants. He's totally f*cking up this country. Hard for me to imagine that the joy of hating Democrats makes up for all that.

Chris Wallace could have controlled Trump by turning off Trump's microphone. There is another technique used on radio -- play humiliating sound effects when Trump says something stupid. That would risk Trump walking off the stage and letting Biden take complete control. Wallace should have risked it.

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What we saw tonight, the muddled mess and anger, reflects the paralyzing levels of internal division currently wracking the United States. Sure, the proximate cause is Trump’s personal style, and the clear personal animosity between the two men on display. But it also reflected the dangerously polarized nature of American politics at this particular moment, even on fundamental issues of how our political system should work.

At the very end of the debate, for example, Trump wouldn’t even pledge to accept defeat — responding to Wallace’s question on this front by encouraging his followers to show up at polling stations in Philadelphia, a Democratic stronghold in a key battleground, “because bad things happen in Philadelphia.”

This wasn’t just ugly in an aesthetic sense; it was ugly in a more fundamental one, a sign of a system breaking down as rival camps within it no longer universally accept the rules of the game. And nobody benefits more from this kind of internal discord in the world’s most powerful state than China.

www.vox.com/2020/9/29/21493926/first-presidential-debate-winners-loser
s-biden-trump


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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 3:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Trump punched and punched hoping for a knockout blow, but it never happened. That ill-planned aggressive approach allowed Biden to not answer Moderator questions and still appear able and competent. All in all the debate was a Horror Show. It was ugly, moronic, and embarrassing. I wish I could get those two hours back, and if I never see that douche-of-a-moderator Chris Wallace again it'll be too soon.

Knockout blow? What were you thinking? In this Trump vs. Obiden/Wallace fight, Creepy Joe could have been flat on his back on the canvas, gasping, and wondering what hs name was, and there was never going to be any way that the Obiden/Wallace team was going to call it.

Many folk had already said, and clamored for Trump taking the example of Obiden when he interrupted and was even rude to Ryan in 2012 - which is what Trump did this time. I personally think it was not as "nice" as folks in WI are accustomed to, but this is a New Yorker against a team of 47-year Swamp Creature plus career Never-Trumper.

So, Trump seemed to hold the line in this format fairly well against the Obiden/Wallace team.


What will likely be remembered is the following paraphrase: Mr. President!! I am the moderator, and whenever Joe rambles on or drifts off-topic, or runs out of coherent speech, I must interrupt and change the topic and shout you down so that the audience won't notice Joe fumbling with his scattered thoughts, and you must allow me to run interference for Joe!! Stop interrupting when I am trying to change topics or when Joe is telling more lies!!


He did seem to land about 7 heavy blows.

Hunter Biden. Met with dead air, until Wallace rescued the team by interrupting for change of topic.

Antifag - "idea, not an organization"

Economy - Obiden said the secret to building the economy is to shut it down for Covid.

Law and Order - Joe could not say the words.

No SCOTUS List

Green Deal

Communist Manifesto

One or both of those last 2 were reportedly still on Obiden's website this morning, after he denounced them in the debate.
Anybody try to look up Obiden's platform? I tried to search for Joe Biden Platform and the Biden Plan finally showed up at the bottom of the results page.
Funny that the Libtard search engines are trying to bury creepy Joe's platform.



When Obiden tries to claim tht Trump followers are racists, teammate Wallace kept mum. When Trump points out that Obiden's Antifags are burning down cities, Wallace interrupts until the topic can be changed.

When Obiden/Wallace team moderator asks the unbiased question "Will you Mr President tell your patriots to not defend businesses and homes from Democrat rioters" and Trump says "sure," Wallace ignores it, asks "Will you tell them to stand down in cities where cops have been directed to hie" and Trump says "Sure," and Wallace ignores that. When Trump points out the facts that only Democrap Antifags and BLM are creating violence in these cities, and not right-wing defenders of businesses and homes, Wallace interrupts and shouts over Trump, while Obiden rearranges his Dunce Cap.
After Wallace keeps saying "Stand Down" then Trump agrees "Stand Down, Stand By"

Whenever Obiden went on his winding, rambling riffs without Wallace interruption, and Trump would point out the lies, Wallace would interrupt the facts.

I assume the Obiden/Wallace team threw out the lies about Trump not paying Taxes. But did Trump manage to mention how Obiden avoided paying Millions of Federal Taxes via his phony S1-Corp?

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Trump punched and punched hoping for a knockout blow, but it never happened. That ill-planned aggressive approach allowed Biden to not answer Moderator questions and still appear able and competent. All in all the debate was a Horror Show. It was ugly, moronic, and embarrassing. I wish I could get those two hours back, and if I never see that douche-of-a-moderator Chris Wallace again it'll be too soon.

Knockout blow? What were you thinking? In this Trump vs. Obiden/Wallace fight, Creepy Joe could have been flat on his back on the canvas, gasping, and wondering what hs name was, and there was never going to be any way that the Obiden/Wallace team was going to call it.

Many folk had already said, and clamored for Trump taking the example of Obiden when he interrupted and was even rude to Ryan in 2012 - which is what Trump did this time. I personally think it was not as "nice" as folks in WI are accustomed to, but this is a New Yorker against a team of 47-year Swamp Creature plus career Never-Trumper.

So, Trump seemed to hold the line in this format fairly well against the Obiden/Wallace team.


What will likely be remembered is the following paraphrase: Mr. President!! I am the moderator, and whenever Joe rambles on or drifts off-topic, or runs out of coherent speech, I must interrupt and change the topic and shout you down so that the audience won't notice Joe fumbling with his scattered thoughts, and you must allow me to run interference for Joe!! Stop interrupting when I am trying to change topics or when Joe is telling more lies!!

He did seem to manage about 7 heavy blows.

Hunter Biden. Met with dead air, until Wallace rescued the team by interrupting for change of topic.

Antifag - "idea, not an organization"

Economy

Law and Order - Joe could not say the words.

No SCOTUS List

Green Deal

Communist Manifesto




You're just pathetic! What a shit Russian troll! Spewing the fascist talking points.
This will be remembered as the worst debate ever, and it's entirely due to Trump's stupidity.



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The worst debate in all of history!!

An embarrassment to America!


Yes, I remember when this was the description when Clinton got trampled by Ross Perot.

And then again when Slick Willie got trampled by Ross Perot...Again. Even the "unbiased" liberal Election Board tried to make rules to eliminate Perot from the debate.

And then the same thing when algore got stymied by Bush.

And the same when Swiftboat Ketchup got run over by Bush.

And then the same claim when Romney bested Obamination.

And yet agina the same thing when Trump clobbered Hilliary.


yawn.
Could it possibly be the same claim again?

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The worst debate in all of history!!

An embarrassment to America!


Yes, I remember when this was the description when Clinton got trampled by Ross Perot.

And then again when Slick Willie got trampled by Ross Perot...Again. Even the "unbiased" liberal Election Board tried to make rules to eliminate Perot from the debate.

And then the same thing when algore got stymied by Bush.

And the same when Swiftboat Ketchup got run over by Bush.

And then the same claim when Romney bested Obamination.

And yet agina the same thing when Trump clobbered Hilliary.


yawn.
Could it possibly be the same claim again?

Even for Donald Trump, it was a surreal moment last night when he refused to condemn violent white supremacist and militia groups. “Give me a name,” he demanded. “The Proud Boys,” Joe Biden answered. But instead of condemning them, Trump gave them a big boost: “Proud Boys — stand back and stand by.” It was an obvious call to rally these agitators, who have assaulted people in the streets from New York City to Portland, for possible post-election violence, and they couldn’t have been happier about it:

Within minutes, members of the group were posting in private social media channels, calling the president’s comments “historic.” In one channel dedicated to the Proud Boys on Telegram, a private messaging app, group members called the president’s comment a tacit endorsement of their violent tactics. In another message, a member commented that the group was already seeing a spike in “new recruits.”

So far Republicans seem to be either staying quiet about this or trying to twist Trump’s words to make them sound harmless. “I heard it differently,” said Chris Christie. And with that, a party that has shamed itself for the past four years falls even further into the abyss.

Proud Boys celebrate Trump’s ‘stand by’ remark about them at the debate.
www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-proud-boys-biden.html

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:47 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Trump-Biden clash was watched by at least 65 million viewers
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/media/first-presidential-debate-tv-rati
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