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This is Why Trump is a SCUMBAG!

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Monday, June 18, 2018 3:39 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Children, little babies are being cruely and inhumanely affected by HIS
Policy to yank them away from their mothers.

Fucking Piece of Shit Scumbag! Hope he develops cancer and dies a horrible
death. Yes, I said it! Anyone who can think evil enough to do this low
vile thing is a POS that doesn't deserve to live. Innocent babies, who have
nothing to do with anything, are being used as political canon fodder.
Only a soulless animal would do such a thing, devoid of any human quality
would even think of such a thing. Both him and Sessions, that little
fucking weasel.

"America is better than this" - What a Doctor saw in a Texas shelter for
Minor children

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/%e2%80%98america-is-better-than-this%
e2%80%99-what-a-doctor-saw-in-a-texas-shelter-for-migrant-children/ar-AAyJpWv


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The small shelter along the Texas border to Mexico held 60 beds and a little playground for children....Colleen Kraft told The Washington Post, because as much as she wanted to console the little girl, she couldn’t touch, hold or pick her up to let her know everything would be all right. That was the rule, Kraft said she was told: They’re not allowed to touch the children.
“The really devastating thing was that we all knew what was going on with this child. We all knew what the problem was,” Kraft said. “She didn’t have her mother, and none of us can fix that.”
Kraft, president of the American Academy of Pediatrics, said colleagues who were alarmed by what was going on at the border invited her to see for herself, so she visited a shelter run by the Office of Refugee Resettlement.

“The really basic, foundational needs of having trust in adults as a young child was not being met. That contradicts everything we know that the kids need to build their health,” Kraft said.

Toxic Stress

Such a situation could have long-term, devastating effects on young children, who are likely to develop what is called toxic stress in their brain once separated from caregivers or parents they trusted. It disrupts a child’s brain development and increases the levels of fight-or-flight hormones in their bodies, Kraft said. This kind of emotional trauma could eventually lead to health problems, such as heart disease and substance abuse disorders.



These are the same scumbags who profess that abortion is a mortal sin and
that these "babies" have a right to live. Fucking hypocritical slugs.
Yeah, that's taking the moral high ground. You show 'em how it's done.
Whoever supports this should have a baby taken from them and have their throat slit for all that's worth. At least that would be more honest.
Trump/Sessions is condenming these babies to a life of misery.

I hope it comes back to them TENFOLD.


SGG

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Monday, June 18, 2018 6:06 AM

REAVERFAN


Curious to see how the trolls will twist this one. Trump, in a disjointed and weird bunch of word salad, blamed Democrats.

Should be entertaining to watch them whine about how this somehow isn't Trump's plan, show old pics that don't relate, etc.

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Monday, June 18, 2018 8:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/hhs-handed-child-migrants
-to-human-traffickers.html


New York Magazine
Article Date: January 29, 2016 10:25 am

Quote:

The United States government placed an unknown number of Central American migrant children into the custody of human traffickers after neglecting to run the most basic checks on these so-called “caregivers,” according to a Senate report released on Thursday.

In the fall of 2013, tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors traveled to the U.S. southern border, in flight from poverty and gang violence in Central America. At least six of those children were eventually resettled on an egg farm in Marion, Ohio, where their sponsors forced them to work 12 hours a day under threats of death. Local law enforcement uncovered the operation last year, prompting the Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations to open an inquiry into the federal government’s handling of migrants.

“It is intolerable that human trafficking — modern-day slavery — could occur in our own backyard,” Senator Rob Portman, Republican of Ohio and the chairman of the subcommittee, told the New York Times. “But what makes the Marion cases even more alarming is that a U.S. government agency was responsible for delivering some of the victims into the hands of their abusers.”

As detention centers became incapable of housing the massive influx of migrants, the Department of Health and Human Services started placing children into the care of sponsors who would oversee the minors until their bids for refugee status could be reviewed. But in many cases, officials failed to confirm whether the adults volunteering for this task were actually relatives or good Samaritans — and not unscrupulous egg farmers or child molesters. The department performed check-in visits at caretakers’ homes in only 5 percent of cases between 2013 and 2015, according to the report.

The Senate’s investigation built on an Associated Press report that found more than two dozen unaccompanied children were placed in homes where they were sexually abused, starved, or forced into slave labor. HHS claimed that it lacked the funds and authorities that a more rigorous screening process would have required. However, the investigation also found that HHS did not spend all of the money allocated to it for handling the crisis.

The agency placed 90,000 migrant children into sponsor care between 2013 and 2015. Exactly how many of those fell prey to traffickers is unknown, because the agency does not keep track.



Oops.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, June 18, 2018 8:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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ADDENDUM: I figured I better do a little fact checking and see what political bias New York Magazine has just to cover my ass from more "Nazi" comments from the peanut gallery.

Just as I suspected...

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-magazine


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New York Magazine media bias rating is Left.

New York Magazine's bias is considered to be liberal. Despite the fact that New York Magazine’s readers reside in a location that many consider to be liberal, in the 1990s, the magazine chose Tucker Carlson, a conservative talk-show-host, as the company’s primary national correspondent. The AllSides Bias Rating™ of the New York Magazine is "far left." The majority of AllSides users who voted agree that the New York Magazine has a left-sided bias in its stories.

More On New York Magazine

The New York Magazine was founded in April of 1968 by Milton Glaser and Clay Felker and has an emphasis on New York City news. When the magazine was founded, its prime competitor was the New Yorker; at the time, New York Magazine was thought to be less polite, establishing itself as a “cradle of New Journalism." Over time, the magazine broadened its scope to become more national. Now, the New York Magazine covers the news, culture, entertainment, and lifestyle defined in New York City life. Each week, 1.8 million people read the magazine. The company has created other news websites as well, such as vulture.com, thecut.com, and scienceofus.com, each focusing on different areas of the news.



https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-magazine/

Quote:

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Left Bias sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Notes: Established in 1968. New York is a bi-weekly magazine concerned with life, culture, politics, and style generally, and with a particular emphasis on New York City. NY Mag has a left wing bias in story selection and reporting, but is always sourced and factual. (5/13/2016)




Both considered to be Left to Far Left, as well as factual.

Nope... can't claim it's bogus because it came from zerohedge or RT.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, June 18, 2018 10:10 AM

JJ



T




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Monday, June 18, 2018 10:28 AM

JJ


The AllSides Media Bias RatingTM reflects the average judgment of the American people.

Here it is folks. A source Jack believes. Problem is the information they dispense is based on peoples opinions and not facts. If they agree with this or that which is in the reported news. Decisions based on their own particular brand of bias.

Some of us here are reporting facts uncovered by the press as to our governments behaviors. Jack only believes something when it matches up to his opinion. Sad, very sad.

T


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Monday, June 18, 2018 1:36 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Mental midgets shouldn't play in the light of day with firecrackers, for a couple of reasons:

1- They might blow what little fragments of brain function is left in that tiny crevice between their ears (hell, a strong breeze would do the trick)
2- See Number #1

A mind is a terrible thing to waste (oh wait, a speck of dust doesn't count).


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
ADDENDUM: I figured I better do a little fact checking and see what political bias New York Magazine has just to cover my ass from more "Nazi" comments from the peanut gallery.

Just as I suspected...

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-magazine


Quote:

New York Magazine media bias rating is Left.

New York Magazine's bias is considered to be liberal. Despite the fact that New York Magazine’s readers reside in a location that many consider to be liberal, in the 1990s, the magazine chose Tucker Carlson, a conservative talk-show-host, as the company’s primary national correspondent. The AllSides Bias Rating™ of the New York Magazine is "far left." The majority of AllSides users who voted agree that the New York Magazine has a left-sided bias in its stories.

More On New York Magazine

The New York Magazine was founded in April of 1968 by Milton Glaser and Clay Felker and has an emphasis on New York City news. When the magazine was founded, its prime competitor was the New Yorker; at the time, New York Magazine was thought to be less polite, establishing itself as a “cradle of New Journalism." Over time, the magazine broadened its scope to become more national. Now, the New York Magazine covers the news, culture, entertainment, and lifestyle defined in New York City life. Each week, 1.8 million people read the magazine. The company has created other news websites as well, such as vulture.com, thecut.com, and scienceofus.com, each focusing on different areas of the news.



https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-magazine/

Quote:

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Left Bias sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Notes: Established in 1968. New York is a bi-weekly magazine concerned with life, culture, politics, and style generally, and with a particular emphasis on New York City. NY Mag has a left wing bias in story selection and reporting, but is always sourced and factual. (5/13/2016)




Both considered to be Left to Far Left, as well as factual.

Nope... can't claim it's bogus because it came from zerohedge or RT.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Monday, June 18, 2018 2:01 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


True. No matter how you feel about the status of media today, their shortcomings
and failures to cover all aspects of the current administration's despicable
machinations and soulless behavior, it does not erase or absolve the cruelty of
this latest Gestapo tactic.

It is morally reprehensible six ways from Sunday. Hiding behind the lies and
desperation of the Scumbag-in-Chief only proves to expose this Nazi regime's
penchant for torture and chaos.

The latest breaking news is that these 'fucking animals' leave the lights on
all night, which does not allow the children to sleep throughout the night.
They claim it's for security, according to the Homeland Security hag that
held a press conference yesterday.

Trump really expects for people with brains to fall for his load of crap. He
doesn't know a law from a hole in the wall, and he states (lies) that it's the
democrats fault, that they are obstructing his administration. Whoa, look at
the big brain on trump. A big fancy word like obstruction. He doesn't have a
clue. You are the (OMG, I think I'm going to be sick) president, and your lame
ass party has control of both houses. How the fuck can the Democrats obstruct?
Yeah, they don't make presidents like they used to anymore.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
The AllSides Media Bias RatingTM reflects the average judgment of the American people.

Here it is folks. A source Jack believes. Problem is the information they dispense is based on peoples opinions and not facts. If they agree with this or that which is in the reported news. Decisions based on their own particular brand of bias.

Some of us here are reporting facts uncovered by the press as to our governments behaviors. Jack only believes something when it matches up to his opinion. Sad, very sad.

T



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Monday, June 18, 2018 2:23 PM

REAVERFAN


State-sanctioned child abuse.

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Monday, June 18, 2018 2:47 PM

REAVERFAN


DONALD TRUMP JR. LIKES TWEET SUGGESTING CHILDREN SEPARATED FROM PARENTS AT BORDER ARE CRISIS ACTORS

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-likes-tweet-suggesting-childre
n-separated-parents-border-are-981126


President Donald Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., liked a tweet that suggested children who had been separated from their parents at the U.S. southern border had been “coached” by liberals, comparing them to crisis actors.

Trump Jr. liked the tweet from right-wing website Breitbart, which quoted conservative pundit Ann Coulter’s warning not to fall for “actor children,” amid criticism of the Trump administration’s policy of separating parents from their children at the border.

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Monday, June 18, 2018 3:39 PM

REAVERFAN



Texas deputy sexually assaulted undocumented immigrant's child, sheriff says

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/texas-deputy-sexually-assaulted-un
documented-immigrant-s-child-sheriff-says-n884176


"A Texas sheriff's deputy was being held Monday on a charge of "super aggravated sexual assault" of a 4-year-old girl after authorities say her mother, an undocumented immigrant, was being blackmailed to stay silent about the abuse — or face deportation."

I get the feeling this isn't an isolated incident.

Trump voter, guaranteed.

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Monday, June 18, 2018 8:34 PM

REAVERFAN


Listen to this recording. The pigs' delight in the suffering of children is telling.

They're Trumptards. Reichwingers are well known for their child abuse.

https://brigade.com/campaigns/19aee196-a33f-4cf6-bfa2-249176e12687/upd
ates/6caf7941-60e2-40ff-90c1-9bd233043bb8?utm_campaign=campaign_update_created&utm_source=brigade-email&utm_medium=email-notification&rta=1

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Monday, June 18, 2018 9:04 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"These are the same scumbags who profess that abortion is a mortal sin and
that these "babies" have a right to live. Fucking hypocritical slugs." I had a friend who used to snickeringly summarize that POV with the phrase "life is sacred until it's born".




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Monday, June 18, 2018 9:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/29/us/politics/us-placed-immigrant-chi
ldren-with-traffickers-report-says.html


U.S. Placed Immigrant Children With Traffickers, Report Says



This I believe was the outfall of Obama's DACA. There were plenty of stories running in the LATimes 2012-2014 about parents and children living on opposite sides of the border after Obama - the 'Deporter in Chief' deported their parents.

LATimes
Obama to Dreamers' parents: No deferral for you
Michael McGough
Nov 21, 2014 | 4:00 AM
The most curious aspect of the proposal was what it didn’t contain: deferral of deportation for the parents of the so-called Dreamers, children brought to this country illegally by their parents.
Two years ago, Obama protected many Dreamers from deportation with his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, known as DACA, and the Dreamers hoped that he would extend the same consideration to their parents.
They were disappointed.
Apparently the White House considered deferring deportation of the Dreamers’ parents, too, but ran into a roadblock from the Office of Legal Counsel in the Justice Department. The head of that office, Karl R. Thompson, concluded that “the proposed deferred action program for parents of DACA recipients would not be a permissible exercise of enforcement discretion.”


CNN
Deportations: Missing parents, scared kids
By Cindy Y. Rodriguez and Adriana Hauser, CNN
Updated 11:41 AM ET, Sun October 27, 2013
After their father was deported, Cesia Soza, bottom left, and her brother Ronald Jr. have lived with the Sandigo family in Miami.





SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:06 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Exactly, a present from our Abuser-in-Chief


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
State-sanctioned child abuse.


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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 8:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


You Leftist zombies become more amusing every day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:33 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You Leftist zombies become more amusing every day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your willful ignorance, along with that of about 60 million uneducated white racists, is the problem, and there's nothing amusing about it.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:35 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You Leftist zombies become more amusing every day.



You sure do post a lot for someone who doesn't give a shit. In your mind does it make someone "Leftist" just to hate that lying f*ckhead in the WH?

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:39 AM

REAVERFAN


Top aides to President Donald Trump are planning additional crackdowns on immigration before the November midterms, despite a growing backlash over the administration’s move to separate migrant children from parents at the border.

Senior policy adviser Stephen Miller and a team of officials from the departments of Justice, Labor, Homeland Security and the Office of Management and Budget have been quietly meeting for months to find ways to use executive authority and under-the-radar rule changes to strengthen hard-line U.S. immigration policies, according to interviews with half a dozen current and former administration officials and Republicans close to the White House.

The goal for Miller and his team is to arm Trump with enough data and statistics by early September to show voters that he fulfilled his immigration promises — even without a border wall or any other congressional measure, said one Republican close to the White House.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/18/trump-aides-plan-fresh-immig
ration-crackdowns-before-midterms-652246


Nazis don't apologize. They double down.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:13 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Seriously, is this the twitter of a guy who is half crazy? Any day now he will be talking to the portraits in the White House of past Presidents, as did Nixon when he was having a mental breakdown, except Nixon had the commonsense to keep his mental state hidden from the public, if not from the staff. Trump tweets his craziness to the world. Sadly, many Trump voters can't understand what is crazy about Trump.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump • 7m v
Democrats are the problem. They don't care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can't win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009071403918864385

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump • 7m v
If you don't have Borders, you don't have a Country!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009071378371313664

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump • 8m v
Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted. Others countries are even worse. Be smart America!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009071330661142533
It is a particularly bad tweet because it is totally false. Germany tried to correct Trump 24 hours ago, yet he still is tweeting nonsense.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/donald-trump-germany-crime-rat
e-immigrants-migrants-refugees-a8404786.html


Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump • 8m v
I can't think of something more concerning than a law enforcement officer suggesting that their going to use their powers to affect an election!" Inspector General Horowitz on what was going on with numerous people regarding my election. A Rigged Witch Hunt!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009071326219395073
The lies just keep coming from crazy Trump. None of what Trump said about Inspector General Horowitz's report are true.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-500-page-inspector-generals-r
eport-in-900-words
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:01 PM

REAVERFAN


What a POS. He needs to be removed, ASAP. Come on Mueller! Lock his Nazi ass up!

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:06 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


If Trump is a scumbag for separating less than 1000 children from their parents at the border, what does that make Obama for separating tens of thousands of children from their parents by deporting their parents?




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:21 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
If Trump is a scumbag for separating less than 1000 children from their parents at the border, what does that make Obama for separating tens of thousands of children from their parents by deporting their parents?




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
False narrative, again, comrade. Way over 1000, first of all. The rest of your lie is wrong, too.

"But... But... Obama!" is not an argument.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

If Trump is a scumbag for separating less than 1000 children from their parents at the border, what does that make Obama for separating tens of thousands of children from their parents by deporting their parents? - KIKI

False narrative, again, comrade.
"But... But... Obama!" is not an argument. -REAVERFAN [sic]





False claim of a false narrative! Try again!

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:33 PM

REAVERFAN


Blew you to pieces. Denying facts is not an argument.

More facts, to kick out another couple of your lying teeth. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/19/matt-schla
pp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was
/

You lose, yet again. Truth defeats lies.



Our ruling
Schlapp said the Trump administration’s policy of separating families is "the same way Barack Obama did it."

Obama’s immigration policy specifically sought to avoid breaking up families. While some children were separated from their parents under Obama, this was relatively rare, and occurred at a far lower rate than under Trump, where the practice flows from a zero tolerance approach to illegal border-crossings.

We rate this False.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:38 PM

REAVERFAN


ICE director rejects Nazi comparisons with same argument used by Nazis to justify their actions

https://thinkprogress.org/tom-homan-jeff-sessions-nazi-comparisons-nur
emberg-defense-165249b9eb33-44e3856468c3-3b59877b1758
/


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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Blew you to pieces. Denying facts is not an argument.
More facts, to kick out another couple of your lying teeth. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/19/matt-schla
pp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was
/
You lose, yet again. Truth defeats lies.
Our ruling
Schlapp said the Trump administration’s policy of separating families is "the same way Barack Obama did it."
Obama’s immigration policy specifically sought to avoid breaking up families. While some children were separated from their parents under Obama, this was relatively rare, and occurred at a far lower rate than under Trump, where the practice flows from a zero tolerance approach to illegal border-crossings. We rate this False.


But I didn't say that Trump was doing what Obama did. What I said was that Obama broke up far more families than Trump, by deporting their parents from the US, but leaving their DACA children behind.

Quote:

Obama Lets Down Immigrant Women
Jessica González-Rojas
The Daily Beast
Washington

This article was originally published on The Daily Beast.

With record deportations and families torn apart, we are in the midst of a humanitarian and moral crisis. ... The hardest stories come from the mothers. Between 2010 and 2012, the Obama administration deported more than 200,000 parents of U.S. citizen children, and more since that time. Many of the children of deported parents end up in the child welfare system, and may be separated indefinitely.

Quote:

The Denver Post
U.S. immigration policy splits families when parents are deported
PUBLISHED: August 25, 2012

“How can my country not allow a mother to be with her children, especially when they are so young and they need her?” Rony Molina asks. “And especially when they are Americans?”

It’s a question thousands of families are wrestling with as a record number of deportations means record numbers of American children being left without a parent — despite President Barack Obama’s promise that his administration would focus on removing only criminals.

Nearly 45,000 such parents were removed in the first six months of this year, says the federal department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

At least 5,100 U.S. citizen children in 22 states live in foster care, according to an estimate by the Applied Research Center, a New York-based advocacy organization, which first reported on such cases last year.






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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:08 PM

REAVERFAN


Sorry, comrade. You already lost that point, so stop trying.

We all know you LOVE the cries of children begging for their parents while the guards mock them.

https://www.propublica.org/article/children-separated-from-parents-bor
der-patrol-cbp-trump-immigration-policy


That's the sound of Trump's fascism. You're a fascist.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:24 PM

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EGREGIOUS CASE OF FACT-DENIAL BY REAVERFAN!





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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:27 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I've noticed that RF instantly goes into ad hominems and trolling when he's lost the argument on the facts.




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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You Leftist zombies become more amusing every day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your willful ignorance, along with that of about 60 million uneducated white racists, is the problem, and there's nothing amusing about it.



lol

You mean all the blacks and mexicans and educated women that voted for trump are uneducated white racists too?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 3:43 PM

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The willful ignorance displayed here by the Russians and their racist dupes isn't surprising. Thank God that 95% of people are smarter than them.

FACTS: Trump and his goons are 100% behind this outrage. It's a ploy to get the wall that Mexico isn't going to pay for, and even more draconic immigration laws.

He could end it today. Anything else is a lie.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 4:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It's only an outrage to you when Trump does it. Obama gets a pass for doing far worse.

I have no problems discussing ALL the relevant facts of a topic. But hypocrites like you aren't interested.




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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
The willful ignorance displayed here by the Russians and their racist dupes isn't surprising. Thank God that 95% of people are smarter than them.

FACTS: Trump and his goons are 100% behind this outrage. It's a ploy to get the wall that Mexico isn't going to pay for, and even more draconic immigration laws.

He could end it today. Anything else is a lie.



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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



It's only an outrage to you when Trump does it. Obama gets a pass for doing far worse.

I have no problems discussing ALL the relevant facts of a topic. But hypocrites like you aren't interested.




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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

It's only an outrage to you when Trump does it. Obama gets a pass for doing far worse.

I have no problems discussing ALL the relevant facts of a topic. But hypocrites like you aren't interested.




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

Trump is Putin's biggest asset in damaging America. Putin and 1kiki hated Obama and 1kiki loves Trump enough to always defend Trump against his accusers. 1kiki and Putin are on Trump's side against Obama.
www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37303057

One of these days America might well discover how much Trump is being paid to screw his own country. Would Trump place money ahead of country? Yes, knowing he lied many times to his draft board to avoid serving his country and spends all his time since Vietnam, including now in the White House, counting his $billions. Putin is rich enough to pay Trump a monthly bribe.
www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/opinion/immigration-trump-children-american
-empire.html

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/14/news/putin-wealth-russia-election/inde
x.html


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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 6:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump is Putin's biggest asset in damaging America. Putin and 1kiki hated Obama and 1kiki loves Trump enough to always defend Trump against his accusers. 1kiki and Putin are on Trump's side against Obama.

Is this your lawyer's way of telling me you can't call me a Russian Troll™ because that puts your money at legal risk?




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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 6:50 PM

JJ


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

It's only an outrage to you when Trump does it. Obama gets a pass for doing far worse.

I have no problems discussing ALL the relevant facts of a topic. But hypocrites like you aren't interested.




Trump is Putin's biggest asset in damaging America. Putin and 1kiki hated Obama and 1kiki loves Trump enough to always defend Trump against his accusers. 1kiki and Putin are on Trump's side against Obama.
www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37303057

One of these days America might well discover how much Trump is being paid to screw his own country. Would Trump place money ahead of country? Yes, knowing he lied many times to his draft board to avoid serving his country and spends all his time since Vietnam, including now in the White House, counting his $billions. Putin is rich enough to pay Trump a monthly bribe.
www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/opinion/immigration-trump-children-american
-empire.html

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/14/news/putin-wealth-russia-election/inde
x.html





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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 6:54 PM

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kiki is a Russian troll.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 7:45 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Children, little babies are being cruely and inhumanely affected by HIS
Policy to yank them away from their mothers.

Fucking Piece of Shit Scumbag! Hope he develops cancer and dies a horrible
death. Yes, I said it! Anyone who can think evil enough to do this low
vile thing is a POS that doesn't deserve to live. Innocent babies, who have
nothing to do with anything, are being used as political canon fodder.
Only a soulless animal would do such a thing, devoid of any human quality
would even think of such a thing. Both him and Sessions, that little
fucking weasel.

"America is better than this" - What a Doctor saw in a Texas shelter for
Minor children

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/%e2%80%98america-is-better-than-this%
e2%80%99-what-a-doctor-saw-in-a-texas-shelter-for-migrant-children/ar-AAyJpWv


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The small shelter along the Texas border to Mexico held 60 beds and a little playground for children....Colleen Kraft told The Washington Post, because as much as she wanted to console the little girl, she couldn’t touch, hold or pick her up to let her know everything would be all right. That was the rule, Kraft said she was told: They’re not allowed to touch the children.
“The really devastating thing was that we all knew what was going on with this child. We all knew what the problem was,” Kraft said. “She didn’t have her mother, and none of us can fix that.”
Kraft, president of the American Academy of Pediatrics, said colleagues who were alarmed by what was going on at the border invited her to see for herself, so she visited a shelter run by the Office of Refugee Resettlement.

“The really basic, foundational needs of having trust in adults as a young child was not being met. That contradicts everything we know that the kids need to build their health,” Kraft said.

Toxic Stress

Such a situation could have long-term, devastating effects on young children, who are likely to develop what is called toxic stress in their brain once separated from caregivers or parents they trusted. It disrupts a child’s brain development and increases the levels of fight-or-flight hormones in their bodies, Kraft said. This kind of emotional trauma could eventually lead to health problems, such as heart disease and substance abuse disorders.



These are the same scumbags who profess that abortion is a mortal sin and
that these "babies" have a right to live. Fucking hypocritical slugs.
Yeah, that's taking the moral high ground. You show 'em how it's done.
Whoever supports this should have a baby taken from them and have their throat slit for all that's worth. At least that would be more honest.
Trump/Sessions is condenming these babies to a life of misery.

I hope it comes back to them TENFOLD.


SGG



This also happened under Obama, so he's a scumbag also?

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 7:59 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump is Putin's biggest asset in damaging America. Putin and 1kiki hated Obama and 1kiki loves Trump enough to always defend Trump against his accusers. 1kiki and Putin are on Trump's side against Obama.

Is this your lawyer's way of telling me you can't call me a Russian Troll™ because that puts your money at legal risk?




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Silly 1kiki, you can't sue me without revealing yourself and your location. No court in America (I don't know about Russia) will take a defamation suit from an anonymous person going by the one word name "1kiki". But I encourage you to find an American lawyer who is a big enough scumbag to file the case and cheat you out of your money. Your lawyer won't ever have to prepare for the trial, since no judge will take the case.

Even Trump can't sue me for libel or defamation. That moron probably thinks he can. I'd love for my lawyers to place Trump under oath. He won't dare answer the questions they will ask because Mueller can use those against Trump. If Trump wants to soak himself in gasoline, my lawyers will gladly throw a lighted match at Trump and watch him burn to death on the witness stand. It would be "Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire" as Trump's fat ass ignites and burns like a pair of candles made of tallow.
www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/01/11/trumps-not-being-defamed-if-
he-wouldnt-change-libel-laws-michael-wolff-jonathan-turley-column/1021999001
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 8:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
kiki is a Russian troll.

T


Easy to see.

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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
kiki is a Russian troll.

T



http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62480&mid=1
055028#1055028


Quote:

Originally posted by REAVERFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
kiki is a Russian troll.

T


Easy to see.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62480&mid=1
055034#1055034


THANKS FOR STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE. You're making documentation easy.






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Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:57 PM

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[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

It's only an outrage to you when Trump does it. Obama gets a pass for doing far worse.

I have no problems discussing ALL the relevant facts of a topic. But hypocrites like you aren't interested.



This.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, June 20, 2018 2:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


ALL A PARENT HAS TO DO TO AVOID BEING SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILD(REN) IS TO ENTER THE UNITED STATES AT AN OFFICIAL BORDER CROSSING AND REQUEST ASYLUM.

Geez, it sounds so simple that any parent who DOESN'T do that, but instead sneaks across the border with their child(ren), can be rightly suspected of trying to enter the USA illegally and then avoid detention by using their young'uns as bargaining chips.

It seems that we should be blaming the parents for so callously putting their children at risk instead.

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Wednesday, June 20, 2018 2:52 AM

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Quote:

ALL A PARENT HAS TO DO TO AVOID BEING SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILD(REN) IS TO ENTER THE UNITED STATES AT AN OFFICIAL BORDER CROSSING AND REQUEST ASYLUM.


These immigrants from Honduras, Guatemala and several points further south
(notice that you don't hear of any Nicaraguans among those fleeing for
their lives) travel through treachorous terrain and crime-invested cities,
to make their way to the official Points of Entry, only to be told that
there's no room for them; and/or to wait for assistance (which never comes).

They are so desperate that they pay "coyotes" to get them across the river,
and then are further exploited by this vile regime that is the trump
dictatorship.


SGG



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
ALL A PARENT HAS TO DO TO AVOID BEING SEPARATED FROM THEIR CHILD(REN) IS TO ENTER THE UNITED STATES AT AN OFFICIAL BORDER CROSSING AND REQUEST ASYLUM.

Geez, it sounds so simple that any parent who DOESN'T do that, but instead sneaks across the border with their child(ren), can be rightly suspected of trying to enter the USA illegally and then avoid detention by using their young'uns as bargaining chips.

It seems that we should be blaming the parents for so callously putting their children at risk instead.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

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Wednesday, June 20, 2018 2:58 AM

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Quote:

This also happened under Obama, so he's a scumbag also?


Good question!

Here's the thing though: Isn't it trump's ultimate goal to undo everything
that Obama ever did? So........let's see. That would mean that he's copying Obama's greatest achievement...killing babies.

Well now, in that case...yeah, Obama is a scumbag. Question is: Who's the
bigger Scumbag?


SGG

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Wednesday, June 20, 2018 3:34 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

This also happened under Obama, so he's a scumbag also?


Good question!

Here's the thing though: Isn't it trump's ultimate goal to undo everything
that Obama ever did? So........let's see. That would mean that he's copying Obama's greatest achievement...killing babies.

Well now, in that case...yeah, Obama is a scumbag. Question is: Who's the
bigger Scumbag?


SGG



Saddest bigger dick contest ever.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, June 20, 2018 7:07 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


They will follow the Trump/Putin Playbook on disrupting democracy.
Kiki will make her usual legal threats.
Siggy and the rest will play along and pull out several "but Obama"
accusations.

You know, the usual BULLSHIT. Then call it facts.

I had one of my friends who supports Trump say to me, "well, Obama did it
first." Really!? That's your argument? Neener, neener, neener....
It makes no sense to me. Obama did it first so that justifies the cruel
and unusual punishment.

I don't ever recall Obama yanking babies away from mothers and locking
them away in baby shelters. Secretly hiding young teen girls and babies.
Sure, he deported millions. But cruel treatment of babies and young teens
and hiding them so that journalists cannot report what they find.
Internment camps for babies, that's a new low.

SCUMBAG! Nazi Putin bootlicker!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Curious to see how the trolls will twist this one. Trump, in a disjointed and weird bunch of word salad, blamed Democrats.

Should be entertaining to watch them whine about how this somehow isn't Trump's plan, show old pics that don't relate, etc.


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Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

These immigrants from Honduras, Guatemala and several points further south (notice that you don't hear of any Nicaraguans among those fleeing for their lives) travel through treachorous terrain and crime-invested cities, to make their way to the official Points of Entry, only to be told that there's no room for them; and/or to wait for assistance (which never comes).


Not true. They are told .... which is probably true ... that Customs and Immigration can handle so many people per day, and people ARE being processed.

The assistance - while they wait at the border- should come from MEXICO. And if MEXICO doesn't want to provide them with temporary shelter, maybe they should have turned them back at their southern border. But Mexico apparently refuses to take any responsibility, because it prefers to encourage illegal emigration to the USA.

Illegal emigration serves the corrupt leadership of nations south of our border, by providing a "safety valve" for people who might otherwise get up on their hind legs and vote the bastards out of office. Their corrupt leaders win, and OUR corrupt leaders win! It's a win-win deal made in hell!

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