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Why Russians love Donald Trump

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Wednesday, April 27, 2016 8:19 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


"A recent poll suggested that every non-US country in the world's G20 would vote for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump - except Russia. Why?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36155109

(In case anyone thought Signy's support for Trump was out of the ordinary.)

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Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Wow.

I truly NEVER keep track of Russia. And certainly not what Russians think of the candidates. You keep way better track than I do.

Do you have, like, a man-crush on Putin?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:36 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I truly NEVER keep track of Russia.



No sh*t!


Haha.

And truly kiki, it's not that hard. You see, the BBC and others have these things called "foreign correspondents" based in Russia, and it's kind of their job to 'keep track' of what Russians think. All I do is read the occasional article.

But thanks for your easily impressed-ness!

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Friday, April 29, 2016 12:22 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"All I do is read the occasional article."

Because the topic has your attention. Because you have a 'thing' for Russia, and Putin.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Friday, April 29, 2016 8:23 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"All I do is read the occasional article."

Because the topic has your attention. Because you have a 'thing' for Russia, and Putin.





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Friday, April 29, 2016 10:00 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"All I do is read the occasional article."

Because the topic has your attention.


Well deduced, Einstein.

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Because you have a 'thing' for Russia, and Putin.

No, because wars and war crimes and humanitarian catastrophes in Syria and Ukraine should be worthy of all of our attention. And yes, that includes war crimes committed by the Russian government, and its ally, Assad. People who ignore all those, and STILL post Russian government propaganda like RT are the ones with a real 'thing' for Russia and Putin. Yes, that means you and Siggy.

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Friday, April 29, 2016 11:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


To THETHREESTOOGES

I dislike Hillary and her equally-reprehensible husband because of the things they've done. I criticized Bill long and hard ... for DOMA, NAFTA, DMCA, for signing the repeal of Glass Steagall and signing the Commodities Futures Modernization Act (which brought us Enron) and for his welfare "reform". Bill was a money-licking whore with a dick. But in case you can't do simple math, that was in the 1990s... yanno, when you were still in diapers. And just to make more of a point of it, that was long before "Putin" ever came on the scene.

I criticized Bush long and hard, too, for increasing inequality, precipitating the financial meltdown, lying our way into two expensive wars which only made a clusterfuck of two nations in the mideast, and starting a program of mass surveillance. Again, LONG before "Putin" came on the scene.

And just for completeness, Obama is a dick too.

And Hillary is just as bad, if not worse. She's a money-licking neocon with a vagina. She combines the worst of Billy-boy and GWB. I should stop criticizing her for the very things I've criticized her husband that that other one in the past??

You've got a seriously twisted sense of priorities if you think Putin has anything to do with what I think of Hillary (or of Trump). That woman has been a disaster throughout her entire career, and she should scare the hell out of anybody with a half-brain.

I find it instructive that rather than talk about The Topic (Hillary and her record of "accomplishments" or Trump and his business record and political statements) you would rather insinuate about anything and everything else. You three seem fully incapable of honest discussion, and none of you are rational.

I don't talk about what "Russia" has done or is doing, or what Russians like or don't like, or what Putin is doing or planning unless it has some bearing on our interests as human beings. I'm more interested in what WE'RE doing to further our interests ... or, more likely ... to dig our own graves. Your fixation on Russia is bizarre.


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Saturday, April 30, 2016 2:25 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"All I do is read the occasional article."

Because the topic has your attention.


Well deduced, Einstein.

Quote:

Because you have a 'thing' for Russia, and Putin.

No, because wars and war crimes and humanitarian catastrophes in Syria and Ukraine should be worthy of all of our attention. And yes, that includes war crimes committed by the Russian government, and its ally, Assad. People who ignore all those, and STILL post Russian government propaganda like RT are the ones with a real 'thing' for Russia and Putin. Yes, that means you and Siggy.



Nice takedown

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Saturday, April 30, 2016 2:32 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
To THETHREESTOOGES

I dislike Hillary and her equally-reprehensible husband because of the things they've done. I criticized Bill long and hard ... for DOMA, NAFTA, DMCA, for signing the repeal of Glass Steagall and signing the Commodities Futures Modernization Act (which brought us Enron) and for his welfare "reform". Bill was a money-licking whore with a dick. But in case you can't do simple math, that was in the 1990s... yanno, when you were still in diapers. And just to make more of a point of it, that was long before "Putin" ever came on the scene.

I criticized Bush long and hard, too, for increasing inequality, precipitating the financial meltdown, lying our way into two expensive wars which only made a clusterfuck of two nations in the mideast, and starting a program of mass surveillance. Again, LONG before "Putin" came on the scene.

And just for completeness, Obama is a dick too.

And Hillary is just as bad, if not worse. She's a money-licking neocon with a vagina. She combines the worst of Billy-boy and GWB. I should stop criticizing her for the very things I've criticized her husband that that other one in the past??

You've got a seriously twisted sense of priorities if you think Putin has anything to do with what I think of Hillary (or of Trump). That woman has been a disaster throughout her entire career, and she should scare the hell out of anybody with a half-brain.

I find it instructive that rather than talk about The Topic (Hillary and her record of "accomplishments" or Trump and his business record and political statements) you would rather insinuate about anything and everything else. You three seem fully incapable of honest discussion, and none of you are rational.

I don't talk about what "Russia" has done or is doing, or what Russians like or don't like, or what Putin is doing or planning unless it has some bearing on our interests as human beings. I'm more interested in what WE'RE doing to further our interests ... or, more likely ... to dig our own graves. Your fixation on Russia is bizarre.


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You hate Bill and Hilary Clinton for the Defense of Marriage Act, a trade agreement and The Digital Millennium Copyright Act yet you love Putin.

Give me a break you hypocritical ass.

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Saturday, April 30, 2016 3:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"yet you love Putin"

prove it

Oh yeah, you can't. Because you're nothing but a troll, trolling with your ad hominem trolling. Your ALWAYS off-topic trolling. Your fact-free trolling.





http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/02/science-confirms-online-trolls-
are-horrible-people-also-sadists
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Sunday, May 1, 2016 12:39 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


"yet you love Putin."

You sound like one of those crazy-jealous boyfriends who're always dreaming up fantasies about all of the "other guys" that "his girl" is cheating with.

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Sunday, May 1, 2016 2:00 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Now who were those two people who argued for 30 pages in the "Russia invades Ukraine" thread denying Russia's involvement, posting RT articles and generally repeating every talking point of Russian state media...?

Hmm, let me think...

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Sunday, May 1, 2016 9:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Now who were those two people who argued for 30 pages in the "Russia invades Ukraine" thread denying Russia's involvement, posting RT articles and generally repeating every talking point of Russian state media...?

Hmm, let me think...

First of all, I rarely quote RT. And since I rarely even read RT, how would you know whether I was "repeating every talking point of Russian state media" unless.... YOU read Russian State media!

So clearly it's you (KPO) and THUGR, since you seem so invested in Russia. Yanno, what Russia does, what Russia would like to do, the "crimes" Russia committed, Putins' evil machinations, what's on Russian's media etc etc.You spent thread after thread obsessing about Russia. Heck, even the titles of your threads reveal your obsessions: "Russia Invades Ukraine" "Russia's War Crimes in Syria".

YouTHREESTOOGES are like dogs: somebody tells you to bark, and you bark. You have no idea at what or why.

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Monday, May 2, 2016 10:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So maybe now that we've decided that Putin should no longer be a standing feature in American politics, we can start discussing Trump, Hillary, and Sanders without bringing in extraneous, no-account extranational politicians UNLESS they are germane to the topic in some specific way?

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Monday, May 2, 2016 6:32 PM

RIVERLOVE


Russians are jumping for joy over Trump.





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Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:49 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

First of all, I rarely quote RT. And since I rarely even read RT, how would you know whether I was "repeating every talking point of Russian state media" unless.... YOU read Russian State media! - SIGNY

Purposely dimwitted response from SIGNYM. Here's the original thread in which SIGNYM - reposting an RT video btw! - tries to support some of their obvious fictions.-ONEOFTHETHREESTOOGES

Do you know what the word "rarely" means? HINT: It's not the same as the word "never".

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It was not the first of her many posts on Russia and most often, the Ukraine.
Bullshit. The people who spend most of the time posting "on" Russia would be you. Like I said:

Quote:

So clearly it's you (KPO) and THUGR, since you seem so invested in Russia. Yanno, what Russia does, what Russia would like to do, the "crimes" Russia committed, Putins' evil machinations, what's on Russian's media etc etc.You spent thread after thread obsessing about Russia. Heck, even the titles of your threads reveal your obsessions: "Russia Invades Ukraine" "Russia's War Crimes in Syria". = SIGNY


Still holds true. And you're doing it again, right here in this thread! "Why Russian Love Donald Trump". Do you not even see the heavy irony of ONEOFTHETREESTOOGES starting YET ANOTHER thread about Russia while claiming that I'm the one who's "always" posting about it?

Russia Banned from 2016 Olympics - thread not mine. "G", who do you suppose started it?
Russia's and Syria's War Crimes
Russia Invades Ukraine
The State of Freedom in Russia
Turkish F-16 Shoots Down Russian Aircraft
Hungarys' Refugee-kicking Camerawomen Pondering move to Russia

All not mine!



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Lie.
Indeed

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That thread is fascinating. You try and try to get people to engage you in your speculations [ABOUT UKRAINE]

"I thought I'd copy over some of my plausible scenarios from a previous thread here, try to extend them a bit, and wonder if anyone else wants to take a few guesses as to what's going to happen next. Some of my plausible scenarios have already happened or are still in process, I'll point those out."-SIGNY

One of those predictions of yours is... very interesting:

"ON REQUEST FROM PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENTS OF EAST UKRAINE, RUSSIA SENDS IN TROOPS
These troops cross the border to "protect Russian citizens" ..."I think Russia is looking for any excuse to send in troops."

Since it has not happened yet, my speculation was clearly wrong. Also, you may have noticed it was anti-Russian.


Quote:

So maybe now that we've decided that Putin should no longer be a standing feature in American politics, we can start discussing Trump, Hillary, and Sanders without bringing in extraneous, no-account extranational politicians UNLESS they are germane to the topic in some specific way?- SIGNY


Apparently not. Since you keep on bringing up the topic, your obsession continues unquenched.

JOKE: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb?
ANSWER: Only one, but only if it really wants to change.

You (collectively) clearly don't want to change. You're content - pleased, self-satisfied, even- with your biased worldview. And no amount of posts will make you change, so this is where I stop.

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Tuesday, May 3, 2016 9:50 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Quote:

First of all, I rarely quote RT

Now who was that person who spammed the Russia War Crimes thread with the same RT article over and over, trying to spread the Russian narrative? Hmm let me think...

Quote:

how would you know whether I was "repeating every talking point of Russian state media" unless.... YOU read Russian State media!

Who says I don't? I in fact check RT fairly regularly, to see what the Kremlin's propaganda machine is spewing. I also engage in online discussions with Russians, who incidentally, repeat the exact same talking points and catchphrases that you do - MH17 conspiracy theories, the Maidan revolution being a CIA plot, the Ukrainian government being a 'Nazi junta' and so on.

Talk about dogs programmed to bark on cue...

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Sunday, May 8, 2016 5:09 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Russians have had brutal oppression, they are kind of Western but not really, I don't consider them Western like France or the USA they are more say Cuban and even in the next years they will always be kind of Chinese or Swedish or Japanese...they will always have some kind of 'hive-mind' and not fully Democratic. For me the Russians they prefer an Emperor or kind of militarist ruling, the Ruskies got the history of long winter, tsars and militarist leaders. I feel the Russian person they don't really know democracy or have not known it and their is something in their psy make up, ideas like Marxist idea, Militarist idea, Communist collective its almost in their 'blood' so to speak to makes them admire their strong men or if you replaced it with a woman I'm sure it would be a Catherine the Great person.

Trump is unconventional, he is a strong man, and maybe looking back the past years of Saudi schemes and Iranian schemes I feel is a long term game here on the world being played. Many of the Arab nations, the Turks, Qatar they like to see the West fighting itself, the Russians and the USA butting heads
They think it will make Islamism strong and seeing the West fight amongst itself will always make the Western Civilisation weaker.

I don't trust Putin or the Russians, ever
however the USA and Russia having a better more stable relationship and both of them working in coperation against child traffickers, radical islam, against drug runners and suicide bombers...its maybe a good idea
Russia had warned U.S. previously about Boston Marathon bomb suspects, but as per usual the multiple intelligence agencys and police did jackshit to stop the attacks, I blame incompetence not corruption and conspiracy and yet sometimes its hard to believe this stuff is still happening after such large scale attacks like 911 etc.

How will it change over the coming years?
many opinions




interesting times

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Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


How did Kaku get from the propensity of American to force "democracy" down the throats of everyone at the point of a gun to "Who was behind 9-11?" Besides, the USA has overturned more democratically-elected governments than anyone else. It's not like we're satisfied with the results of democracy.

That's a stupid, irrelevant question and a cheap rhetorical trick. Not only that, he was berating and browbeating his host.

So now I'm going to pull a cheap rhetorical trick: Michio Kaku has said some remarkably stupid things, like the 2100 future of human beings ("Our* destiny is to become like the gods we once worshipped and feared") ignoring the speedbumps along the way like worldwide depression, global climate change, and global thermonuclear war.

And given the incredible persistence of huge inequalities of wealth, EVEN IF we manage to avoid all of the disasters that we created (and some of the ones nature could have in store for us) and EVEN IF we manage to develop those technologies, they wont' be accessible to everyone.

What he should have said was "SOME will become like gods". The rest will remain peons. But since he already identifies himself with the elite, of course that would never enter his head. For such a smart man, he's remarkably stupid, and nobody should pay attention to him outside of his field of expertise.

* What mean this "we", Kimosabe?

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