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I don't even know what most of you are talking about anymore.....

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Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I remember the days that I'd just jump into a fight here, knowing full well about the issue and how I perceived it.....

What a sad, sad time....

My advice is to bury your head in the sand as far as your money and personal relationships will allow you to do so, and to also advise your loved ones to do the same.

I won't even try to lie and tell you that I'm "happy" in any way more meaningful then to say that I don't stress about a bunch of shit I can't control.....

When I come back here and even read the titles of the threads I don't even click on because I don't care to know anything about them, I feel true pity for everyone. What horrible things you all are bombarded with on a daily basis.

I would like to hope that if there is intelligent life from another planet that manages to one day find us that they would just be absolutely baffled by all of the bullshit.

I'm not judging, because I'm well aware of what I am. I'm just saying.... whether you ever admit it to yourself in the mirror when nobody is around, you're all pretty f'd up.

And overall, I would consider the regular posters here within the top 10 to 5% of the intelligence quotient of the general populace.... I can only imagine what truly stupid people do in their day to day lives with this insistent deluge of non-productive information.....



I'm just saying that there is another way.....

It IS possible to Control this information if you deny it from even becoming a part of your consciousness in the first place.

Every politically fueled title to a thread I read here is already laced with poison before you even clicked on it. You know it, yet you still click on it and read it and "learn"......


Seriously, everyone.....

GROW THE FUCK UP.

It's like goddamned high-school all over again, what with all the he-said, she-said.

:)

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Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:24 AM

STORYMARK


You can't follow along.... and you think that means others are less intelligent....?

How quaint.

Sobering up might help with the comprehension a titch.



“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I will ask you to please read that again Storymark.....

I don't believe that I said that at all.

You are among the people that I would consider the top 10% to top 5% percent of the most intelligent people in the world.

I said it, so it probably might be true ;)



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, August 19, 2014 6:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And overall, I would consider the regular posters here within the top 10 to 5% of the intelligence quotient of the general populace.... I can only imagine what truly stupid people do in their day to day lives with this insistent deluge of non-productive information.....



I'm just saying that there is another way.....

It IS possible to Control this information if you deny it from even becoming a part of your consciousness in the first place.


Seriously, everyone.....

GROW THE FUCK UP.

It's like goddamned high-school all over again, what with all the he-said, she-said.

:)


Control the Information by Denying the facts? Denying the truth? Denying reality? What form of brainwashing have you undergone to think this is reasonable?

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Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:02 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't stress about a bunch of shit I can't control.....

When I come back here and even read the titles of the threads I don't even click on because I don't care to know anything about them, I feel true pity for everyone. What horrible things you all are bombarded with on a daily basis.


High blood pressure will kill you. Relax and be happy. Life's too short.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:53 AM

BYTEMITE


Awww, and you were doing so well.

Some of us don't have the option of burying our heads to be happy, Jack.

I don't participate in threads here because I don't think it's conducive to a solution anymore. But I definitely absorb all the negativity in the world I can, because information is information, and it'll bite you if you ignore it. Even better is if you can fight back somehow.

In life you're either fighting or you're dying. That's all you CAN do. Giving up means you've decided you're already dead.

Go and be content and complacent. The fight will still be here when you realize the world and other people still exist outside the bubble you've made for yourself.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Control the Information by Denying the facts? Denying the truth? Denying reality? What form of brainwashing have you undergone to think this is reasonable?



See... now THIS is a productive conversation!

I have no intention to argue with you, nor do I think that you do with me. I believe you misinterpreted my meaning and I'll be the first to admit that that is at least 50% my fault. I'd like to think that you may actually agree at least slightly with my way of thinking if I can take the time to better explain it.

I think our breakdown in understanding came when I said "It IS possible to Control this information if you deny it from even becoming a part of your consciousness in the first place."


I did not mean at all to deny that the Facts are there, or that in many more cases than not there is actual truth to the Facts. There are Facts everywhere. All of our life we're surrounded with Facts and all of the opinions based off of these facts. FACTS, FACTS, FACTS! We're being strangled to death by facts.

What I'm saying is that 90% of the time or more, the Facts hold no meaning one way or another to my personal enrichment or well being. Saying that even 10% of the Facts possibly do is being egregiously generous, in my opinion.

I read up on local politics and most of that was done when I was trying to do one thing or another like fight my property taxes and I ended up voting in several low-key elections to get the right people into office that managed to shave my property taxes over $250 this year over last year by trying to get our town out of Gary's taxing district if they don't curb their rediculous spending. They also confiscated computers and several hig profile local politicians and their nepotistic hires lost their cushy jobs.

The Facts about the potential presidents in next election don't mean anything to me personally (READ:) after the primaries. What I mean by that is NOBODY ever imagined Obama would win in Indiana and they were right because my vote for Romney was one of 120,000 votes above what Obama got in my state. In other words, I wish I had voted for Daffy Duck since that would have at least been funny.

My point is, I won't even vote in the Presidential election coming up. I will vote for my choice for in the primaries, and I will vote for local politicians in the general, but I seriously think I'm going to do a write-in vote for Mayor McCheese for President. No matter what the Facts are surrounding the Democratic and Republican nominees, the Republican is going to win Indiana by 120,000 votes give or take a thousand.



And about my dislike for knowing much about the Facts that are thrust upon us everyday by the media, I got to learn about the Fact that some crazy "isis" people just beheaded a reporter. It's a sad thing that happened, and I fully hope that the people impacted by this make sure that everything is being done to bring the people responsible to Justice and they have to pay for the crime they commited. My heart goes out to his/her loved ones in this dark day.

Personally, I'm annoyed that I now know that this happened. I had a great day at work and then I have to hear about this crap because I happened to call my Grams back when I realized she called me the other day and left a message. She even suggested that I "Google" it, which was actually a half joke she's the only person in the world that will turn down a free computer that I've offered to build for her to get on the internet to do email with her grand kids and stuff.......



Bottom line.... I have my ear to the ground on the local and state political scene. I feel that I've lucked out and I'm generally surrounded by people with a similar mind set to me so the votes tend to go my way even when they're really close. Beyond that, I'm self sufficient and I possess a certain number of "aggression deterrents" if anyone ever tries to invade my space.

I don't ever watch movies like Hostil or Saw or the Hills Have Eyes. Hannibal was the only movie I've EVER turned off halfway through. Why the hell would I want to hear about every single horrible thing that people do to each other in real life? Why the hell do so many people ingest so much of this poison every day that it justifies having multiple 24/7 news programs that, according to my Grams, have been "teasing" just a little more of the beheading video as the hours go by?????

I hope you at least understand where I'm coming from now JSF. Even if only 10% of the Facts out there could ever possibly matter in my life, the flip side is that at least 50% of the Facts the media presents are ones that I just don't even want to know about. Furthermore, at least 20% of them are so vile in nature that I can't even comprehend why they seem to fascinate people so.....

:)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't stress about a bunch of shit I can't control.....

When I come back here and even read the titles of the threads I don't even click on because I don't care to know anything about them, I feel true pity for everyone. What horrible things you all are bombarded with on a daily basis.


High blood pressure will kill you. Relax and be happy. Life's too short.



Damn straight Skippy!

Don't Worry, Be Happy is my motto these days....




RIP, Brother Robin...

I hope you're up there and now you "get it" and you're just kind of laughing your ass off about how bad we all got it and how you're never going to have to worry about any of the Facts again :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I don't know if I'd ever accuse myself of "doing well" Byte ;)

I'm not telling you that burying your head will make you happy either, although I'm alluding to the Fact that it couldn't hurt in that regard....

I'd like you to read something you said to me out loud to yourself right now and see if you get how I don't even want that for myself anymore and I actually enjoy NOT doing this to myself anymore....

"...I definitely absorb all the negativity in the world I can..."

Exactly my point Byte.

I love ya girl... for realz. We've always been cool.

If it actually pains me a little to see you ingesting these Truths as you do, imagine how much I hate that people I hug when I see do the exact same thing.


I don't have time for that shit anymore.....

I don't have time to sift through 1,000 Truths we're barraged with in a given month to find the ONE that I can possibly do ANYTHING about.

I still find Truths in my life, but I usually find them when they're somehow a barrier to whatever I'm focusing on at the time. In this way I believe that I can control the information because I'm limiting it only to the Truth that matters to me personally. I also find that when I'm doing this that I have a HUGE success rate in changing things that I don't find agreeable.

I must have had at least 100 engaging conversations out of the 250 or so phone conversations I had with local political leaders or their staff or government employees. Some of the ladies even had my number in memory since it's a out of state area code and would say "Hi Jack" when they picked up the phone.

Now that my property taxes are reasonable and they got shaved even more because of the local people I helped elect, I kind of miss the fight... I really had a purpose and an obtainable goal in mind. There was a long time I didn't post here at all, and I mean a pretty damn long one.

I didn't have time for that shit ;)

Love ya Byte :)

Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Awww, and you were doing so well.

Some of us don't have the option of burying our heads to be happy, Jack.

I don't participate in threads here because I don't think it's conducive to a solution anymore. But I definitely absorb all the negativity in the world I can, because information is information, and it'll bite you if you ignore it. Even better is if you can fight back somehow.

In life you're either fighting or you're dying. That's all you CAN do. Giving up means you've decided you're already dead.

Go and be content and complacent. The fight will still be here when you realize the world and other people still exist outside the bubble you've made for yourself.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
In the spirit of don't worry, be happy:



Haha! That is one of the few things that have happened recently that I know about since somebody at work showed it to me on his iPhone yesterday.

As AWESOME as that video is, it's one of the minority of Facts I didn't even discuss before... the ones that are questionably True. :)



I believed it when Forrest Gump was shaking JFK's hand back when I was in high school. Now your average face razor commercial has more advanced CGI going on than Jurassic Park first blew my mind.

I'm going to file this one somewhere between Bigfoot and a "Lifetime Production" that wasn't designed to make women hate men :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You wanna know what really chaps my ass right now???

The Fact that my ass is literally chapped, and more specifically and painfully, my upper thighs right behind and under my balls. The Truth is, had I had considered how warm it's actually been the last few days, and had I known that I'd be working over 11 hours on my feet, I would have both wore my Jockey boxer-breifs instead of my Jocky boxers and I would have put on some of my off brand Gold Bond in every sexy crevice of my naughty bits before heading off to work...

TMI to the max here, right?

Sorry about that. It is True though. It is a Fact. I'm in pain and it will probably be about 36 hours until I can walk around without looking like a cowboy from an old Western.

Shit.... even with my free time, I ignored some Facts that I'm paying for right now.....

I'll tell you what though... I won't make that mistake again for the rest of the summer. I'm pretty sure I'll make the same mistake once next summer when it gets this hot. It just amazes me that it took till nearly the end of August this year to remember since it's been such an awesomely cool one. :)



My apologies again about the TMI.

What you're feeling now just about sums up how I feel about basically everything that anyone in front of a camera at any cable news outlet ever has to say ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:43 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

I'm not telling you that burying your head will make you happy either, although I'm alluding to the Fact that it couldn't hurt in that regard....


You clearly after all this time don't know who I am, and I'm no longer even able to be disappointed.

Have a good life Jack. Good luck with the chafing.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
You clearly after all this time don't know who I am, and I'm no longer even able to be disappointed.

Have a good life Jack. Good luck with the chafing.



Apparently Byte, I don't.....

That sounds like a rather large send off without even an inkling as to why.

Would you at least do me the courtesy of elaborating upon your active-aggressive dislike for whatever I just said that offended you so irrecoverably?


Still love ya Byte ;)

Oh shit... that might have been what made you not want to talk to me.....

Hate you as much as you want to be hated, Byte ;)


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


After reading the thread progression, I felt I should probably point out to you Byte, that I wasn't specifically directing the post about my chafing to you at all. I'm not saying that to make a point that it wasn't suggestively pointed to somebody, but you didn't even come on my radar there..... :)

I'd appreciate if you could burn away any memories you had that I was talking to you specifically about my naughty bits and you could just read the previous post that I wrote specifically to you and we could talk about that :)

Love and/or hate ya Byte :) and/or :(

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:33 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Control the Information by Denying the facts? Denying the truth? Denying reality? What form of brainwashing have you undergone to think this is reasonable?



See... now THIS is a productive conversation!

I have no intention to argue with you, nor do I think that you do with me. I believe you misinterpreted my meaning and I'll be the first to admit that that is at least 50% my fault. I'd like to think that you may actually agree at least slightly with my way of thinking if I can take the time to better explain it.

I think our breakdown in understanding came when I said "It IS possible to Control this information if you deny it from even becoming a part of your consciousness in the first place."


I did not mean at all to deny that the Facts are there, or that in many more cases than not there is actual truth to the Facts. There are Facts everywhere. All of our life we're surrounded with Facts and all of the opinions based off of these facts. FACTS, FACTS, FACTS! We're being strangled to death by facts.

What I'm saying is that 90% of the time or more, the Facts hold no meaning one way or another to my personal enrichment or well being. Saying that even 10% of the Facts possibly do is being egregiously generous, in my opinion.

I read up on local politics and most of that was done when I was trying to do one thing or another like fight my property taxes and I ended up voting in several low-key elections to get the right people into office that managed to shave my property taxes over $250 this year over last year by trying to get our town out of Gary's taxing district if they don't curb their rediculous spending. They also confiscated computers and several hig profile local politicians and their nepotistic hires lost their cushy jobs.

The Facts about the potential presidents in next election don't mean anything to me personally (READ:) after the primaries. What I mean by that is NOBODY ever imagined Obama would win in Indiana and they were right because my vote for Romney was one of 120,000 votes above what Obama got in my state. In other words, I wish I had voted for Daffy Duck since that would have at least been funny.

My point is, I won't even vote in the Presidential election coming up. I will vote for my choice for in the primaries, and I will vote for local politicians in the general, but I seriously think I'm going to do a write-in vote for Mayor McCheese for President. No matter what the Facts are surrounding the Democratic and Republican nominees, the Republican is going to win Indiana by 120,000 votes give or take a thousand.



And about my dislike for knowing much about the Facts that are thrust upon us everyday by the media, I got to learn about the Fact that some crazy "isis" people just beheaded a reporter. It's a sad thing that happened, and I fully hope that the people impacted by this make sure that everything is being done to bring the people responsible to Justice and they have to pay for the crime they commited. My heart goes out to his/her loved ones in this dark day.

Personally, I'm annoyed that I now know that this happened. I had a great day at work and then I have to hear about this crap because I happened to call my Grams back when I realized she called me the other day and left a message. She even suggested that I "Google" it, which was actually a half joke she's the only person in the world that will turn down a free computer that I've offered to build for her to get on the internet to do email with her grand kids and stuff.......



Bottom line.... I have my ear to the ground on the local and state political scene. I feel that I've lucked out and I'm generally surrounded by people with a similar mind set to me so the votes tend to go my way even when they're really close. Beyond that, I'm self sufficient and I possess a certain number of "aggression deterrents" if anyone ever tries to invade my space.

I don't ever watch movies like Hostil or Saw or the Hills Have Eyes. Hannibal was the only movie I've EVER turned off halfway through. Why the hell would I want to hear about every single horrible thing that people do to each other in real life? Why the hell do so many people ingest so much of this poison every day that it justifies having multiple 24/7 news programs that, according to my Grams, have been "teasing" just a little more of the beheading video as the hours go by?????

I hope you at least understand where I'm coming from now JSF. Even if only 10% of the Facts out there could ever possibly matter in my life, the flip side is that at least 50% of the Facts the media presents are ones that I just don't even want to know about. Furthermore, at least 20% of them are so vile in nature that I can't even comprehend why they seem to fascinate people so.....

:)

Do Right, Be Right. :)


I'm not mollified. You seem to have decided to have somebody else perform your filtering of your input, you have abdicated your responsibility and duty to stay informed if you are to vote - IIRC Ben Franklin said the electorate must remain vigilantly informed, educated, and intellectually active (He was a major advocate of Postal distribution of materials and information). You seem to have delegated these responsibilities to others instead of absorbing the overview and deciding for yourself what to retain.
I think I understand what you have said, and I'm afraid I disagree.
I have often been asked by friends and acquaintances why I watch bad movies, and I explain that if I am not familiar with how bad a movie can be, I won't know how good a movie is when I see it - I won't be able to recognize it, I won't have a reference.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:55 PM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And overall, I would consider the regular posters here within the top 10 to 5% of the intelligence quotient of the general populace.... I can only imagine what truly stupid people do in their day to day lives with this insistent deluge of non-productive information.....



I'm just saying that there is another way.....

It IS possible to Control this information if you deny it from even becoming a part of your consciousness in the first place.


Seriously, everyone.....

GROW THE FUCK UP.

It's like goddamned high-school all over again, what with all the he-said, she-said.

:)


Control the Information by Denying the facts? Denying the truth? Denying reality? What form of brainwashing have you undergone to think this is reasonable?




Well, he's a Republican, of course, so that's really all it took.

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Friday, August 22, 2014 7:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I'm not mollified. You seem to have decided to have somebody else perform your filtering of your input, you have abdicated your responsibility and duty to stay informed if you are to vote - IIRC Ben Franklin said the electorate must remain vigilantly informed, educated, and intellectually active (He was a major advocate of Postal distribution of materials and information). You seem to have delegated these responsibilities to others instead of absorbing the overview and deciding for yourself what to retain.
I think I understand what you have said, and I'm afraid I disagree.
I have often been asked by friends and acquaintances why I watch bad movies, and I explain that if I am not familiar with how bad a movie can be, I won't know how good a movie is when I see it - I won't be able to recognize it, I won't have a reference.



I decided to have somebody else filter my input? I don't understand that statement. I don't have cable, or even local HD stations so I don't get any news broadcasts. As cheap and as poor as I am, I could spring 100 bucks for an antenna on my house and a converter and never pay a monthly fee for basic TV. I had a newspaper subscription for a while but they never threw it close to my doorstep and I had to search for it every morning. I have cable internet and access to every story i could find on TV or in the paper, and yet I Choose not to read about things that don't pertain to me.

Not getting how I have given somebody else this responsibility. I feel that I've done a fine job on my own of making sure that I don't have to read any of the horrible crap you have no control over that fills your mind everyday.


I'm no stranger to "bad movies"..... Leprechaun In The Hood and Troll 2 probably being my two favorites.

When I'm talking about bad movies I'm talking about stuff that some sick people might consider porn. The simple fact that there were enough people paying the entry fee to justify SEVEN installments of Saw over eight years makes me vomit in my mouth a bit.

Go ahead and tell yourself that watching shit like that makes you a more well informed and well rounded individual. Me, I agree with Bender......

"Once you watch it, you can't un-watch it!"

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, August 22, 2014 7:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Well, he's a Republican, of course, so that's really all it took.



Wow... well I'm offended now....

I've never once said I was a Republican since I've been here.

I spent most of my time here years back beating up on what a horrible president GWB was.

I don't even know anything about you man, except that you're not Elvis or Christ.

You're pretending to know something about me though?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 25, 2014 8:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I'm not mollified. You seem to have decided to have somebody else perform your filtering of your input, you have abdicated your responsibility and duty to stay informed if you are to vote - IIRC Ben Franklin said the electorate must remain vigilantly informed, educated, and intellectually active (He was a major advocate of Postal distribution of materials and information). You seem to have delegated these responsibilities to others instead of absorbing the overview and deciding for yourself what to retain.
I think I understand what you have said, and I'm afraid I disagree.
I have often been asked by friends and acquaintances why I watch bad movies, and I explain that if I am not familiar with how bad a movie can be, I won't know how good a movie is when I see it - I won't be able to recognize it, I won't have a reference.



I decided to have somebody else filter my input? I don't understand that statement. I don't have cable, or even local HD stations so I don't get any news broadcasts. As cheap and as poor as I am, I could spring 100 bucks for an antenna on my house and a converter and never pay a monthly fee for basic TV. I had a newspaper subscription for a while but they never threw it close to my doorstep and I had to search for it every morning. I have cable internet and access to every story i could find on TV or in the paper, and yet I Choose not to read about things that don't pertain to me.

Not getting how I have given somebody else this responsibility. I feel that I've done a fine job on my own of making sure that I don't have to read any of the horrible crap you have no control over that fills your mind everyday.


I'm no stranger to "bad movies"..... Leprechaun In The Hood and Troll 2 probably being my two favorites.

When I'm talking about bad movies I'm talking about stuff that some sick people might consider porn. The simple fact that there were enough people paying the entry fee to justify SEVEN installments of Saw over eight years makes me vomit in my mouth a bit.


Can't argue with that there. I think I somehow managed to avoid seeing any of those - kinda forgot they weren't around anymore, until you mentioned it here. I don't consider those to be the "bad" movies I was referring to. Try a Ewe Boll movie sometime. Something either poorly acted, cast, edited, choreographed, scored, bad continuity, having boom mics in the frame, etc. Something intentionally in poor taste or sense does not automatically fall into the category I was referring to.

Rememberfy - Leprechaun did have this hottie in the led role named something like Jennifer Aniston - before she was cast in Friends. I enjoyed watching her in that flick.

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Tuesday, August 26, 2014 2:03 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Good to see you are back here in your role az the finger on the pulse uv 6string, 6string.

A suprizing bit uv info you did indirectly provide for me. I didnt think your 'top 10% - 5% estimate wuz credible, so I googld IQ % distribution & found this chart:
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx

You coud very well be rite! Duznt take much to get into the top 10%!

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Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Good to see you are back here in your role az the finger on the pulse uv 6string, 6string.

A suprizing bit uv info you did indirectly provide for me. I didnt think your 'top 10% - 5% estimate wuz credible, so I googld IQ % distribution & found this chart:
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx

You coud very well be rite! Duznt take much to get into the top 10%!

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Why would you be surprised? 10% is one tenth. Of the 50,000 members on this board, 5,000 would be in the top 10% merely due to random distribution. of the 10 people nearest to you at any given moment, likely one is in the top 10%.

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Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:58 AM

JO753

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Bekuz he rote

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And overall, I would consider the regular posters here within the top 10 to 5% of the intelligence quotient of the general populace.


He iz saying we are not a typical group.

Also, you arent thinking uv the % correctly.

If you take any group uv 100, 1000, 1,000,000 - anything below the total population, the % iz not garranteed to match the total population %.


In other wordz, just kuz you round up 100 random people duznt mean the smartest wun haz an IQ over 135.

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Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:46 PM

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Originally posted by JO753:
Bekuz he rote

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And overall, I would consider the regular posters here within the top 10 to 5% of the intelligence quotient of the general populace.


He iz saying we are not a typical group.

Also, you arent thinking uv the % correctly.

If you take any group uv 100, 1000, 1,000,000 - anything below the total population, the % iz not garranteed to match the total population %.


In other wordz, just kuz you round up 100 random people duznt mean the smartest wun haz an IQ over 135.


Perhaps you do not understand percentage, percentile, and statistics very well.
You are not GUARANTEED to have a person in the top one percentile in a random gathering of 100 people, but it is statistically probable. Unless you happened to find a random group which did not have a one-percenter, it is inevitable that each group of 100 will have one - otherwise another random group of 100 will need to have 2 of them - that is how statistics and percentiles work. That is their definition.
This applies not only to intelligence, but any other characteristic - ability to do pushups, speed of typing, hair color, etc.

For the vast majority of time, that IS exactly what the percentile means - you will have a one-percenter in a random group of 100.

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Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:16 PM

JO753

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You are not GUARANTEED to have a person in the top one percentile in a random gathering of 100 people, but it is statistically probable.



You are assuming a very hi level uv global homogeneity.

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Unless you happened to find a random group which did not have a one-percenter, it is inevitable that each group of 100 will have one


Inevitable?

I coud happen to find all sorts uv groups uv 100 that dont even hav any
5%erz! And I coud chooz particular groups uv 100 that dont hav any 10%erz.

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another random group of 100 will need to have 2 of them


True.


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Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You are not GUARANTEED to have a person in the top one percentile in a random gathering of 100 people, but it is statistically probable.



You are assuming a very hi level uv global homogeneity.


The last breakdown I saw, Japan had the highest average IQ of 106 (I forget which scale, but that little deviation won't affect the tremendous homogenous characteristic.) I am not assuming anything, just relying upon facts.
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Unless you happened to find a random group which did not have a one-percenter, it is inevitable that each group of 100 will have one


Inevitable?

I coud happen to find all sorts uv groups uv 100 that dont even hav any
5%erz! And I coud chooz particular groups uv 100 that dont hav any 10%erz.


Specifically targeting your sampling to avoid randomness is in strict defiance of the definition of RANDOM.
I have a large group of friends who are ALL 2 percenters - does that mean I could, by any reasonable standard, classify them as RANDOM? Hell, no.
Your supposition fails miserably. Your point never made it out of the gate.
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another random group of 100 will need to have 2 of them


True.


You have accidentally swerved into the truth. Welcome to my world. Do not feel obligated to leave soon.

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Friday, August 29, 2014 5:17 PM

JO753

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I see wut your mistake iz.

You are thinking a random 100 selected frum the entire population.

That woud be virtually impossibl to pull off, even if you get past the problemz uv access.

If you are a crazy billionaire and decide 'I'm gunnu show JO no matter how much it costs' and actually get it dun, you woud certainly find out that the averaage for your 100 duznt even reach the published average. (consider who happenz to be accessable for thoze tests normally)

If insted, you think in practical termz, where you happen to be wen you start grabbing your participants will make a big difference.

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Saturday, August 30, 2014 5:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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I see wut your mistake iz.

You are thinking a random 100 selected frum the entire population.

That woud be virtually impossibl to pull off, even if you get past the problemz uv access.

If you are a crazy billionaire and decide 'I'm gunnu show JO no matter how much it costs' and actually get it dun, you woud certainly find out that the averaage for your 100 duznt even reach the published average. (consider who happenz to be accessable for thoze tests normally)

If insted, you think in practical termz, where you happen to be wen you start grabbing your participants will make a big difference.


I disagree that I made a mistake.

Are you claiming that some states have greater or lesser deviation from the norm? That some cities or villages have greater or lesser deviation from the norm?
Trying to claim that Random is defined as a subset of a pre-determined non-norm set is clearly violating the meaning of Random.

If you are trying to claim that a place like NYC has a statistical slant towards more "average" or lower IQ, I can see your point. However, most any other claim which sounds like what you are heading towards is without foundation.

When you assert that a "random" sampling of 100 from the DNC will not have it's fair share of one-percenters, and a far greater concentration to the "average" or low-IQ then this is a known fact, and again defeats the definition of "random" because of your intentional sampling from within a known non-statistically norm group - much like me trying to claim that my friends who are all two-percenters would also be a random sampling.

But random samplings from within the GENERAL POPULATION are statistically the same as from the whole population (or entire population)- just with greater deviation. The sampling without a one-percenter will be unusual.

If you are trying to claim that you have some secret method of selecting a group which has a non-statistical normal model which you would then randomly select 100 from it to achieve a non-statistical distribution of one-percenters (or whatever you are trying to say), then please spell out what you have in mind. So far, it sounds like you clearly have no idea how well statistical models apply to the real world.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2014 9:55 AM

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Can't argue with that there. I think I somehow managed to avoid seeing any of those - kinda forgot they weren't around anymore, until you mentioned it here. I don't consider those to be the "bad" movies I was referring to. Try a Ewe Boll movie sometime. Something either poorly acted, cast, edited, choreographed, scored, bad continuity, having boom mics in the frame, etc. Something intentionally in poor taste or sense does not automatically fall into the category I was referring to.

Rememberfy - Leprechaun did have this hottie in the led role named something like Jennifer Aniston - before she was cast in Friends. I enjoyed watching her in that flick.



I think we have come to an agreement about what makes a good bad-movie :)

I won't say I've loved everything Uwe Boll made (I definately didn't), but he's had a few rough gems, or at least classic moments. My favorite part of any Uwe Boll movie that didn't involve Kristianna Loken having sex has to be Michael Madson's entire performance in BloodRayne. He's always been one of my favorite "That Guy" actors that I feel is truly underrated, but if BloodRayne was the only movie you'd ever seen him in then you wouldn't wonder why you'd never seen him in anything else before. He seriously spat out every single line as if he just didn't give a shit and only was in it for the paycheck. ;)

I'm not a huge fan of Uwe's movies, but as a person I think he's fascinating. How does somebody make one lousy movie after another and manage to bag actors like Madson, let alone Ray Liotta and Ben Kingsley?

Not to mention, he will challenge critics who give him lousy reviews to a boxing match, and likely kick their ass if they accept too. (It's totally true.... Google it!)

Haha! Jennifer Aniston in Leprechaun 1! If I wasn't such a movie dork I probably wouldn't have remembered that one. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Good to see you are back here in your role az the finger on the pulse uv 6string, 6string.

A suprizing bit uv info you did indirectly provide for me. I didnt think your 'top 10% - 5% estimate wuz credible, so I googld IQ % distribution & found this chart:
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx

You coud very well be rite! Duznt take much to get into the top 10%!



Wow J0753. Haven't spoken to you in ages. How ya been? :)

That's a VERY interesting chart there. Just going by the numbers on the chart, and the fact that I always scored in the 99% for every category given in the "IOWA" tests when I grew up, that would put me at about 137 IQ which I honestly can't argue with. It's a number lower than I got on a REAL IQ test, and it's much lower than supposed online IQ tests, but I like to err on the side of caution. I always thought that 120 would be my sweet-spot, but the numbers don't lie, right? ;)



Given the numbers though, I would like to restate what I said earlier. I think everyone that posts in the RWED regularly is at least in the top 5% if not much higher on average. The reason being that I think you have to be pretty intelligent to LOVE Firefly enough to find a website devoted to it, and even more intelligent to find yourself engaged in political discussions on a daily basis here..... even if the threads usually devolve into tantrums and personal attacks (just like you'd expect all the mouth breathers at some Once Upon A Time fansite to do if they were talking politics).


When I said I thought I was 120, I didn't realize that I was only smarter than 8 other random people. I have to apologize to everyone else for thinking that we were all around 120 or so, or at least started off there. :)

137 would make me the smartest person in a room full of 96 people. That does seem a little arrogant, especially since that's a hard sell to ever prove.....

126-127 is the sweet spot for 5%. I can agree that unless I'm in a room full of Ivy League graduates or a "Walter White" convention, that if you put 20 random people in a room that I'm likely the smartest one out of all of them.

OHHHHH.... I FORGOT TO MENTION THE RWED...... DUH!

Yup. You heard it here first. Even if you don't like me or things I've said, I'm saying right now that at any given point I could quite possibly be the stupidest person of 20 of us posting in a thread. A difference of only 5 IQ points can make you smarter than everyone in a room filled with 44 people, MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY AS ME!!!!

Yeah.... We're all pretty smart here, even if a lot of us act stupid a lot of the time. :)



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:26 AM

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I loved the conversation you two had after that. I get both sides of the debate and something as simple as putting 100 random people in a room is seriously tricky.

How could you not accidentally make it non-random when trying to make it random?

You're talking about probably millions of variables from both "Nature & Nurture".

How could one EVER put 100 truly random people in a room together??????

Maybe a computer could do it?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 2, 2014 1:16 PM

JO753

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I'm glad yr talking to me agen! I thot you hated me eternally after the last election cycle. All my RL frendz had also gotten trapped in the GoP eko chamber and wuns youre inside, its next to impossibl to get out.

You seem to see the 100 averaj the same way I do - grab 100 peopl off the street & see wut you get. Thats wut Jewel iz not understanding.

I am in a dum area. Been here for 20 yirz and I cant help but think that its not had a good influens on me. It certainly haz givin me a negativ opinion about humanz in jeneral.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2014 1:36 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Are you claiming that some states have greater or lesser deviation from the norm?



Wut I orijinally meant wuz that the world iz not very homojenized. Different countryz, different nayborhoodz, different social groups etc are not going to hav the same internal average az the entire world.

On further consideration, I'm gessing that the averaj for many if not most geografic regionz woud be lower than the established averaj bekuz that iz derived frum groups that tend to educational settingz. In other wordz, I dont expect the vilij idiot to show up for skool and there are alot uv vilij idiots!

Then therez the talent factor. Peopl like to do thingz they are good at, so smart people like to take IQ tests. How can that not hav skewed the average up over the decadez? I had a GF with an IQ over 160 who woud often show up with a new test to beat me at.


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Thursday, September 4, 2014 8:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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I'm glad yr talking to me agen! I thot you hated me eternally after the last election cycle. All my RL frendz had also gotten trapped in the GoP eko chamber and wuns youre inside, its next to impossibl to get out.

You seem to see the 100 averaj the same way I do - grab 100 peopl off the street & see wut you get. Thats wut Jewel iz not understanding.

I am in a dum area. Been here for 20 yirz and I cant help but think that its not had a good influens on me. It certainly haz givin me a negativ opinion about humanz in jeneral. http://www.nooalf.com



Damn dude. My fault. I won't argue the fact that it is entirely possible that I said something to you on one of my drinking days, especially during last election cycle. Whatever I said, I'm sorry about that.

I don't see you post much around here, but then again, we did meet in a much nicer board on the forum and I wasn't drinking much and we were talking about building stuff and shit that actually matters. Add the fact that on any given day here I've only ever even opened one or two of the top 30 posts in the RWED that weren't started by me because it's too depressing.


Anyways, glad you posted here. As far as I'm concerned we never had any problem. Anything we might have argued about back then is just water under the bridge. I seriously don't care about any of it and I don't have time for that shit anymore. :)

We cool. ;)


EDITED TO ADD: I think that every poll made is flawed because complete randomness means that if you polled 100 random people off the streets 100 times in 100 different cities/counties/states/countries/continents about most topics, then you'd have 100 wildly different poll results.

This can be, and so of course it IS, manipulated by the people who want to show their like-minded "people" the results they want to hear. The righties and the lefties are both equally as culpable.

I think the only way that you could get a TRUE reading from a poll is to have some sort of super computer that monitored everyone in the world and their behaviors and their way of thinking and their upbringing and their neighborhood and their race and their religion and what brand toothpaste they prefer.

That computer, with all of that knowledge about nearly 7 BILLION people would then be able to determine a nearly INFINITE amount of "100 random" people that would all add up to the exact same results 95% or more of the time.

Then again, if you you were going for Random by knowing so much about every person on the planet that you could put 1Million sets of 100 people side by side who came out with the same results, then I guess that wouldn't be random at all, would it????? ;)

The ONLY reason that political polls are pretty accurate is because there really are only two choices and with at least 60 years of recorded data of voting patterns (which they have at a county or even city level), it's pretty easy to be able to claim only +/-5% because like the Lemmings we all are, we have yet to prove them wrong. ;)


Ugggghhh... It's kind of like talking about Time Travel.

I can't take a side on that either, because if I come into the conversation with an open mind I end up leaving with way more questions than I started the conversation with.

It's still fun to talk about though. Even if you risk breaking your brain if you dwell too much on it.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 6, 2014 2:39 AM

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Nice to hav you back on the frendlyz side. I enjoyed your random ramblingz topic.

I wuz sparse around here for a wile kuz I wuz too bizzy working on the site.

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Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Your website is pretty interesting there....

I thought you were just a HUGE fan of "I haz Catz", but it seems you've put a WHOLE lot of work and effort into successfully weeding out all of those barnacle letters :)


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:36 PM

JO753

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xanks!

I'm alwayz wondering theze dayz how far I coud hav gotten by now if any uv my lame RL frendz had enuf imajination to understand wut I'm doing and help.

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Monday, September 8, 2014 12:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Thanks J....

Wait a minute.....

I know what you just did there....


"How'd you get me to get you lemonade?"




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Monday, September 8, 2014 5:37 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Can't argue with that there. I think I somehow managed to avoid seeing any of those - kinda forgot they weren't around anymore, until you mentioned it here. I don't consider those to be the "bad" movies I was referring to. Try a Ewe Boll movie sometime. Something either poorly acted, cast, edited, choreographed, scored, bad continuity, having boom mics in the frame, etc. Something intentionally in poor taste or sense does not automatically fall into the category I was referring to.

Rememberfy - Leprechaun did have this hottie in the led role named something like Jennifer Aniston - before she was cast in Friends. I enjoyed watching her in that flick.



I think we have come to an agreement about what makes a good bad-movie :)

I won't say I've loved everything Uwe Boll made (I definately didn't), but he's had a few rough gems, or at least classic moments. My favorite part of any Uwe Boll movie that didn't involve Kristianna Loken having sex has to be Michael Madson's entire performance in BloodRayne. He's always been one of my favorite "That Guy" actors that I feel is truly underrated, but if BloodRayne was the only movie you'd ever seen him in then you wouldn't wonder why you'd never seen him in anything else before. He seriously spat out every single line as if he just didn't give a shit and only was in it for the paycheck. ;)

I'm not a huge fan of Uwe's movies, but as a person I think he's fascinating. How does somebody make one lousy movie after another and manage to bag actors like Madson, let alone Ray Liotta and Ben Kingsley?

Not to mention, he will challenge critics who give him lousy reviews to a boxing match, and likely kick their ass if they accept too. (It's totally true.... Google it!)

Haha! Jennifer Aniston in Leprechaun 1! If I wasn't such a movie dork I probably wouldn't have remembered that one. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)


Which film was Ms Loken having sex in?
I always enjoy Michael Madsen. He has been in several of my faves, particularly Mullholland Falls. What a cast for that one. Except for Melanie Griffiths.
I think his trick is money - hand out boat loads until said star says OK.

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Monday, September 8, 2014 5:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Good to see you are back here in your role az the finger on the pulse uv 6string, 6string.

A suprizing bit uv info you did indirectly provide for me. I didnt think your 'top 10% - 5% estimate wuz credible, so I googld IQ % distribution & found this chart:
http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx

You coud very well be rite! Duznt take much to get into the top 10%!



Wow J0753. Haven't spoken to you in ages. How ya been? :)

That's a VERY interesting chart there. Just going by the numbers on the chart, and the fact that I always scored in the 99% for every category given in the "IOWA" tests when I grew up, that would put me at about 137 IQ which I honestly can't argue with. It's a number lower than I got on a REAL IQ test, and it's much lower than supposed online IQ tests, but I like to err on the side of caution. I always thought that 120 would be my sweet-spot, but the numbers don't lie, right? ;)


The IOWA has always been more for the general scale. It has never been that fine-tuned for the high end of the spectrum.
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Given the numbers though, I would like to restate what I said earlier. I think everyone that posts in the RWED regularly is at least in the top 5% if not much higher on average. The reason being that I think you have to be pretty intelligent to LOVE Firefly enough to find a website devoted to it, and even more intelligent to find yourself engaged in political discussions on a daily basis here..... even if the threads usually devolve into tantrums and personal attacks (just like you'd expect all the mouth breathers at some Once Upon A Time fansite to do if they were talking politics).


When I said I thought I was 120, I didn't realize that I was only smarter than 8 other random people. I have to apologize to everyone else for thinking that we were all around 120 or so, or at least started off there. :)

137 would make me the smartest person in a room full of 96 people. That does seem a little arrogant, especially since that's a hard sell to ever prove.....

126-127 is the sweet spot for 5%. I can agree that unless I'm in a room full of Ivy League graduates or a "Walter White" convention, that if you put 20 random people in a room that I'm likely the smartest one out of all of them.

OHHHHH.... I FORGOT TO MENTION THE RWED...... DUH!

Yup. You heard it here first. Even if you don't like me or things I've said, I'm saying right now that at any given point I could quite possibly be the stupidest person of 20 of us posting in a thread. A difference of only 5 IQ points can make you smarter than everyone in a room filled with 44 people, MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY AS ME!!!!

Yeah.... We're all pretty smart here, even if a lot of us act stupid a lot of the time. :)
:)


You bring up another point here. The difference in IQ points, or score. Many people do not understand that a difference in more than 15 IQ points means two people will never, ever, fully understand each other, fully communicate accurately with each other. So when hanging out in the stratosphere the disagreements and miscommunications radically increase.

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Monday, September 8, 2014 5:56 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

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You seem to see the 100 averaj the same way I do - grab 100 peopl off the street & see wut you get. Thats wut Jewel iz not understanding.


You are not understanding.
Grab 100 people off the street, and the statistical norm is what you will have sampled.
You don't understand that the statistical norm is what will hold. It is not strict. But of 100 people, you are most likely to include one person who is in the top 1% of whatever category you are measuring.
In a random sampling of 50, you will normally get one who is in the top 2% of whatever characteristic you are measuring.

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Monday, September 8, 2014 6:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Are you claiming that some states have greater or lesser deviation from the norm?



Wut I orijinally meant wuz that the world iz not very homojenized.


Incorrect. Turns out the world is amazingly homogenized. Although the largest deviation is the country of Japan with an average IQ of 106, that is a relatively small nation, and that statistic was not too long after they had a radical change in their population demographics due to WWII. Massive death rates can alter the randomness of sampling.
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Different countryz, different nayborhoodz, different social groups etc are not going to hav the same internal average az the entire world.


incorrect. Unless the social groups are conforming to a belief or practice which cerebral aptitude plays a part in, the random group should have the same average.
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On further consideration, I'm gessing that the averaj for many if not most geografic regionz woud be lower than the established averaj bekuz that iz derived frum groups that tend to educational settingz.


bad guess. You are intentionally mis-defining the meanings of average, random, aptitude. IQ is a psychometric calculation or evaluation - it is not dependent upon - and independent of - education.
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In other wordz, I dont expect the vilij idiot to show up for skool and there are alot uv vilij idiots!


The village idiots are included in the statistical sampling, and are represented in the random sampling just as equally as the higher percentiles are.
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Then therez the talent factor. Peopl like to do thingz they are good at, so smart people like to take IQ tests. How can that not hav skewed the average up over the decadez? I had a GF with an IQ over 160 who woud often show up with a new test to beat me at.


You are not understanding the entire concept, definition, practice, and execution of standardized IQ tests, standardized Aptitude tests, standardized general population tests, and statistical deviations in randoms samplings. Every suggestion in your above paragraph intentionally defeats and undermines the definitions of random, and statistical norm and deviation, which does not help to support your arguments.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2014 2:59 AM

JO753

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Its funny how you can get locked into a perspectiv & no amount uv info can pry you out uv it. Happenz to me sumtimez, then later I will realize why I wuz rong.

Coud be me or you in this case! But, I'm leaning toward it being you since youv contradicted your own pozition at least twice and dont seem to be paying attention to my counter examplez.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Which film was Ms Loken having sex in?
I always enjoy Michael Madsen. He has been in several of my faves, particularly Mullholland Falls. What a cast for that one. Except for Melanie Griffiths.
I think his trick is money - hand out boat loads until said star says OK.



It wasn't hardcore sex or anything. It's been a long time, but I don't think her top even comes off. I just remember her grabbing bars from a jail cell while he got her from behind standing up when she was playing BloodRayne. Definitely not the most memorable sex scene ever, but then again, look who was directing it :)

I've never seen Mullholland Falls. At first I thought you meant Mullholland Drive. I'll have to check that one out. It came out back when I was still in high school. :)

Madsen is the shit though. If you've never seen Bloodrayne before, you should see it just for his performance. At the very least it makes good fodder for a Bad Movie Night.


As far as I know, Uwe wasn't rich before he started churning out those mediocre movies. My question is, who was giving him the funding to get some A talent in his movies. The dude from the Transporter movies was in that Dragon one and that was back when he was still making Transporter movies!

Even if he were rich before, he would have lost a lot of that money. I just can't believe that a guy would piss away all of his money like that. Maybe he has a terminal disease and doesn't like his kids enough to leave them with anything?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:27 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You bring up another point here. The difference in IQ points, or score. Many people do not understand that a difference in more than 15 IQ points means two people will never, ever, fully understand each other, fully communicate accurately with each other. So when hanging out in the stratosphere the disagreements and miscommunications radically increase.



I never would have guess how just a few IQ points can really be that big a difference. I think I might have intuited it though, because outside of the Internets I rarely ever discuss political matters unless it's with somebody who is obviously very like minded to me and we're bitching about it together.

I still suggest at least taking a break from all news, even if just for a week. It's been about 2 years since I paid attention to anything that wasn't local politics, and I think it's pretty safe to assume that the only price I paid for not stressing about all the things I can't control is not knowing what I would be stressing about if I still paid any attention.

I guess we should all keep in mind that the news, generally speaking, is geared toward the lowest common denominator. Most of the stories we see are reported in such a way that it's almost insulting if you're pushing the Genius tier in the IQ spectrum. Maybe it's just me.....?


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by JO753:
Its funny how you can get locked into a perspectiv & no amount uv info can pry you out uv it. Happenz to me sumtimez, then later I will realize why I wuz rong.

Coud be me or you in this case! But, I'm leaning toward it being you since youv contradicted your own pozition at least twice and dont seem to be paying attention to my counter examplez.


Your counters have not held up - I was refraining from embarrassing you.
Where do you think I contradicted myself? Twice?


However, I have forgotten to mention one truth.
The best way of measuring how intelligent a person is is to gauge how often they agree with me.


Also, for both of you: the pursuit of your interests does affect the randomness of your passerby. If you are hanging out at the bookstore looking at the shelves with logic puzzles, it might mean the person standing next to you is of above average intellect.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:17 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Which film was Ms Loken having sex in?
I always enjoy Michael Madsen. He has been in several of my faves, particularly Mullholland Falls. What a cast for that one. Except for Melanie Griffiths.
I think his trick is money - hand out boat loads until said star says OK.



It wasn't hardcore sex or anything. It's been a long time, but I don't think her top even comes off. I just remember her grabbing bars from a jail cell while he got her from behind standing up when she was playing BloodRayne. Definitely not the most memorable sex scene ever, but then again, look who was directing it :)

I've never seen Mullholland Falls. At first I thought you meant Mullholland Drive. I'll have to check that one out. It came out back when I was still in high school. :)
:)


Be sure not to look at which role Bruce Dern has. At that time, it was the first role that he played which was against his type - I know he has repeated since. And at the time Rob Lowe was looked down upon in Hollywood, so this role was poignant. And be sure to watch for Ed Lauter - the way his role works out was a rarity at the time. One of my fave Chris Penn performances. Jen Connelly is IN that time.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:03 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


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Where do you think I contradicted myself? Twice?


1. You mentioned that your frendz are 2%erz. evidence agenst your fine homojinaity.
2. Japan. An entire country worth uv evidence.

Quote:

However, I have forgotten to mention one truth.
The best way of measuring how intelligent a person is is to gauge how often they agree with me.



Funny! I had a similar semi-serious joke: If it duznt make sense to me, it duznt make sense. Usually, its true if its sumthing I am capable uv comprehending. But I learned my limits a long time ago, so I can often tell the difference.

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If you are hanging out at the bookstore looking at the shelves with logic puzzles, it might mean the person standing next to you is of above average intellect.


That makes 3. Now youre getting the pikture!

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Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Be sure not to look at which role Bruce Dern has. At that time, it was the first role that he played which was against his type - I know he has repeated since. And at the time Rob Lowe was looked down upon in Hollywood, so this role was poignant. And be sure to watch for Ed Lauter - the way his role works out was a rarity at the time. One of my fave Chris Penn performances. Jen Connelly is IN that time.



That does sound like an pretty awesome cast. I agree with you about the Melanie Griffith thing though. For obvious reasons, I did kind of like her in Milk Money, but I was like 13 years old, so.....

Love Chris Penn and Rob Lowe. I don't remember Ed Lauter or Bruce Dern, but their names sound familiar. I'm sure I'll recognize them when I see it.

Did this come out before or after Steven King's The Stand? I do remember reading a TV guide article about it and it focused mostly on Rob Lowe turning his career around by playing a deaf mute in such a highly anticipated miniseries. Funny, isn't it. He was ostracized from Hollywood for years for doing something that would get you your own reality TV show today.

I adore Jennifer Connelly. I remember seeing Labryinth when I was a kid and not thinking much of her, but she is one of those rare actresses who got more beautiful with age.

I'll let you know what I think when I watch it :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Once again I'd like to state that I pretty much agree with everything that both of you have said, even though half the time you are contradicting each other.

This, I believe, is just one of those "Doublethink" issues that doesn't truly have a right or a wrong answer.

Still. I love thinking about things like that. :)




While i'm checking out Mullholland Falls, JSF, you should check out Mullholland Drive when you get a chance. I've seen that movie about 6 times and I still have no idea what the hell I just watched when it's over.

I still haven't figured out Donnie Darko either. My dad says he gets it now because there is a lot of stuff online about it and there is actually something like 20 pages from that book of time travel that you can read that really helps you make sense of it all.

I've never looked into it because I really don't want to know the "answer" unless I figure it out for myself one day, which my Dad says he doesn't think he ever would have done had it not been for that book.

I'm okay with that. I like watching that movie about once every year or two and seeing if THIS is the time that I will finally GET IT!


My top 3 movies are probably the following:
1. Ink
2. Donnie Darko
3. Mullholland Drive

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:09 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Did you see A Beautiful Mind? Great movie with Jenifer Connelly.

Did you not see S. Darko? Lucky you then! Obvious attempt to cash in on Donnie Darko by trying to copy the style. No substance AND they failed to copy the style.

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