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Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:28 PM

AURAPTOR

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A group of Jewish children and their fathers ascended the Temple Mount on Tuesday and were verbally and physically assaulted by Muslims objecting to their presence, according to recorded footage of the incident released on Thursday.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/04/24/jewish-children-assaulted-by-musl
ims-on-temple-mount-video
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Thursday, April 24, 2014 6:08 PM

REAVERFAN


That's unusual. It's usually Israeli settlers abusing Palestinians.

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 6:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
That's unusual. It's usually Israeli settlers abusing Palestinians.



yeah. Only that never actually happens.

So , that's the best you have ? A whole crowd of Muslims, screaming, spitting and assaulting a group of CHILDREN ?


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Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:28 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
yeah. Only that never actually happens.

You really are a stupid fuck. I'd assumed you were really young to think in such a fashion, but to find out you're near my own age is somewhat unsettling, as it disproves the saying that with age comes wisdom.

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:38 PM

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How many 1000s of rockets get fired into Israel ?

Chrissy - you're ignorant.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:54 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
How many 1000s of rockets get fired into Israel ?

Lots.
And you're still a stupid fuck.
Gotta have your good guys & bad guys. Makes it all understandable, eh? Comfy trumps reality. Typical spoon-fed partisan diaper rash.

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:15 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
That's unusual. It's usually Israeli settlers abusing Palestinians.

It's the wild West in that area. The back & forth violence is hard to describe in terms of good vs. bad. But it IS easy to say that the Israelis drew first blood. This in no way is condoning the death & injury of innocent Israeli civvies. The high moral ground there seems to be vacant.
But then, that's war for ya.

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:18 PM

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Quote:

Gotta have your good guys & bad guys.



'Gotta' has nothing to do w/ it.

Orcs aren't 'misunderstood'. They're ( fictionally ) made by evil.

Per the video though, let's flip the coin.

A group of small Muslim children, minding their own business , say walking to their Mosque, get surrounded by a bunch of angry, vulgar WHITE CHRISTIAN AMERICANS, yelling at the kids and spitting on them.

By YOUR logic, the " Yeah, but 9/11 happened " excuse exonerates those bullying the kids ?

Must be.

NOW I get it.

Thanks, Sensi .

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:29 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
By YOUR logic, the " Yeah, but 9/11 happened " excuse exonerates those bullying the kids ?

No, you stupid dunce, the POINT is that your kneejerk & artificially instilled hatred of anything 'Muslim' precludes your potentially honest assessment that it's all one big gorram grey area.
Violence is not an answer to social problems, if it WAS, Hitler would have been a world ruler.
Dumass.

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:21 PM

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Tell that to the Muslims

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:23 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Tell that to the Muslims

I think you mean the Cylons.

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Friday, April 25, 2014 12:51 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


http://muslimpositive.blogspot.com/

Here is the Religion of Peace at work.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, April 25, 2014 12:52 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Tell that to the Muslims

I think you mean the Cylons.



Did you see the faces on those young kids ?

What did THEY ever do to anyone ?

Go watch again, and then come back and tell us how this is remotely in response to anything you claim it was.

PS -


the POINT is that your kneejerk & artificially instilled hatred of anything 'Muslim' precludes your potentially honest assessment that it's all one big gorram grey area.


" artifically installed hatred " ? Nothing " artificial " when it comes to hating those who few planes into tall buildings and murdered almost 3,000 civilians. And if you don't have a " kneejerk " reaction to grown ups screaming and spitting at little children, then I have to assume you don't HAVE knees.

Or a brain.

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Friday, April 25, 2014 9:30 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
http://muslimpositive.blogspot.com/

Here is the Religion of Peace at work.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



you could have expanded your post to include...

Muslims help build Hindu temple in Bihar, India

SITAMARHI, Bihar – As media continues to focus on claimed tensions between both faiths, Indian Muslims in the northern Bihar's Sitamarhi district have been quietly helping Hindus in constructing a new temple to finish it before their coming Chhath festival in November. "Muslims are not only donating money for temple construction, they are also actively involved in ensuring that it should come up soon," Rajkishore Raut, president of the Shiva Temple Construction Committee, told IANS. Raut, a school teacher, said the construction of the temple was a fine example of Hindu-Muslim brotherhood.

http://www.onislam.net/english/news/asia-pacific/460042-india-muslims-
help-building-hindu-temple.html

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Friday, April 25, 2014 1:14 PM

STORYMARK


You guys fell for this obvious trolling?

Huh.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, April 25, 2014 6:24 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
You guys fell for this obvious trolling?

Huh.

Guilty as charged, sir.

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Friday, April 25, 2014 9:37 PM

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Bunch of 7 year olds, whining and bitching about 'trolling' when they've had their hats handed to them and can't reply w/ a shred of honesty.


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Monday, June 16, 2014 4:35 PM

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World Cup on the telly ? Let's go kill some infidels !!


Islamist gunmen massacre 49 on Kenya coast



Around 50 heavily-armed gunmen drove into the town of Mpeketoni, near the coastal island and popular tourist resort of Lamu, late on Sunday, officials said.

Witnesses said they first attacked a police station, before starting to randomly shoot at civilians, some of whom had been watching the World Cup in local bars and hotels.

District deputy commissioner Benson Maisori said several buildings in the town -- which is around 100 kilometres (60 miles) from the border with Somalia -- were burned down including hotels, restaurants, banks and government offices.

"There were around 50 attackers, heavily armed in three vehicles, and they were flying the Shebab flag. They were shouting in Somali and shouting 'Allahu Akbar' ('God is Greatest')," he said, adding they attacked a police station but officers fought them off.


http://news.msn.com/world/islamist-gunmen-massacre-49-on-kenya-coast?o
cid=ansnews11&stay=1

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Monday, June 16, 2014 8:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Are there 2 AuRaptors" now?
On the "New Posts" list, the last 2 appear as AURaptor and then AURAPTOR. Have not noticed this before.

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Monday, June 16, 2014 8:45 PM

JONGSSTRAW


The more the merrier!

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Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:38 PM

AURAPTOR

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ISIS beheads US journalist James Foley



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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 9:51 AM

AURAPTOR

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List of protests by Muslims over this beheading ?

Anyone ?

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:48 PM

AURAPTOR

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G - I won't watch such snuff vids either. But you're right on the size of the knife. There's a evil ( pure ) reason for the use of such a blade. It's one thing to lob off a head with a big swing using a scimitar .

This ain't that.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:50 PM

AURAPTOR

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I too liked what Obama SAID, about what just god would stand for this.

And in other positive news...



RIYADH: Saudi Arabia's Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul-Aziz Al al-Sheikh, the highest religious authority in the country, said Tuesday that the militant groups Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) and Al-Qaeda were "enemy number one of Islam" and not in any way part of the faith.

Although the mufti and other senior Saudi preachers have condemned ISIS, Al-Qaeda and other groups before, the timing of Sheikh's statement is significant given the gains by militants in Iraq.

"Extremist and militant ideas and terrorism which spread decay on Earth, destroying human civilization, are not in any way part of Islam, but are enemy number one of Islam, and Muslims are their first victims," he said in a statement carried by the official Saudi Press Agency.


http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Aug-19/267697-saudi-
top-preacher-blasts-isis-as-enemy-no1.ashx#ixzz3Ay2IY84h




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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
That's unusual. It's usually Israeli settlers abusing Palestinians.


Earth to reaverfan: what planet are you loitering on lately? Those of us in the real world on Earth know this doesn't happen, so where were you in the space-time continuum when you witnessed these abusings?

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:05 PM

THGRRI


All religions are problematic. This is a bunch of nuts and I hope like hell this incident is the beginning of the end for them. These are Sunni’s and in order to erratic them we need Sunni’s to do it. Saudi Araba and other Sunni countries have to recognize ICEL is a runaway train. I believe at first they saw this as an answer to Iran in the area. A group that would bolster their strength. Seeing ICEL is a threat to them as well, they have to help fund the fight and take them on. We will help from the air.

This is part of the dilemma Obama faces. If he just jumps in before he has his coalition, they will not join us in this struggle. It is the same dilemma he faces with Europe. They have to be on board as well. The country has to stay patient until it all comes together.



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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:37 PM

AURAPTOR

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At least the Soviets and the Chi-Coms care about leaving a planet to rule once they take over. These zealots actually WANT to go to Allah-land, and have no problem using nukes.

Need to nip this nihilistic death cult in the bud, and sooner rather than later.

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Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:32 PM

THGRRI


U.S. Special Operations forces staged an unsuccessful operation this summer to rescue photojournalist James Foley and other Americans being held in Syria by Islamic State militants, according to senior Obama administration officials.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-weighs-respon
se-to-apparent-execution-of-american-by-islamic-state/2014/08/20/e33558a8-287d-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html



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Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:33 AM

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So, Obama had already referred to ISIS as the " JV " team, and then went after Foley , only to come back empty handed.

Q: Why announce that you failed to release him ? Doesn't that only embolden ISIS all the more, knowing the U.S. tried to move directly at them only to fail, and then they end up killing the hostage anyway ?

And why burn any possible intel leads you had by revealing this plan ? Hell, even if it failed, you know how reliable and accurate your source is, and now so does ISIS.

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Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:03 AM

AURAPTOR

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2 years Foley was held captive .

How many knew ? Where was it reported. And there are others as well.

Again, why say more than you need to if you're the WH ?

It doesn't add up.

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Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:19 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

So, Obama had already referred to ISIS as the " JV " team, and then went after Foley , only to come back empty handed.

Q: Why announce that you failed to release him ? Doesn't that only embolden ISIS all the more, knowing the U.S. tried to move directly at them only to fail, and then they end up killing the hostage anyway ?

And why burn any possible intel leads you had by revealing this plan ? Hell, even if it failed, you know how reliable and accurate your source is, and now so does ISIS.



You're a crack pot. He said what he said about ISCEL being a JV team based on his intelligence reports. As for the failed mission, I say bravo for authorizing it. That is as far as his involvement goes. The rest is on the intel and those who carried out the mission. To them I say bravo and good try; stay safe.

To you Rappy I say wow you must be a very capable guy. We need you running the show. Sorry the rest of us keep letting you down. You need to get back into the world of facts and reality. Apparently you have read nothing about on this has been going on.


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Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:34 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
You're a crack pot.



For asking a basic question ? Really ?

Quote:

He said what he said about ISCEL (ISIL ) being a JV team based on his intelligence reports.


Would those be the reports he barely reads ? And never talks to the ones who WROTE those reports ?

Quote:

As for the failed mission, I say bravo for authorizing it.

That is as far as his involvement goes. The rest is on the intel and those who carried out the mission. To them I say bravo and good try; stay safe.


I agree. Does that make you a crackpot too ?

Point is, why go broadcasting to the world and to ISIS that you even TRIED to save Foley and the other hostages, when you failed and now he's dead ? Sure, we expect you to have TRIED , but not to announce your failures.

And FYI, there are ALWAYS U.S. citizens who are captured and held captive by SOME group, all around the world. It just doesn't always get reported. So that's nothing new that Obama has had to face, and not other Presidents. Usually these things get taken care of through back channels.

Why choose 'transparency ' now, when your govt has been so damned secretive about so many more important things ( like targeting citizens with the IRS because of their political affiliation ) ?

Quote:



To you Rappy I say wow you must be a very capable guy. Sorry the rest of us keep letting you down. You need to get back into the world of facts and reality.




Not the rest of you, just Obama.

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Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:56 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

…Me
You're a crack pot.



Quote:

….Rappy
For asking a basic question ? Really ?



Yes, it was obvious it was a cynical question.

Quote:

…Me
He said what he said about ISCEL being a JV team based on his intelligence reports.



Quote:

….Rappy
Would those be the reports he barely reads ? And never talks to the ones who WROTE those reports ?


Biased innuendo and again cynical.

Quote:

….Me
That is as far as his involvement goes. The rest is on the intel and those who carried out the mission. To them I say bravo and good try; stay safe.



Quote:

….Rappy
I agree. Does that make you a crackpot too ?



Nope

Quote:

….Rappy
Point is, why go broadcasting to the world and to ISIS that you even TRIED to save Foley and the other hostages, when you failed and now he's dead ? Sure, we expect you to have TRIED , but not to announce your failures.



That's debatable, to me it is only a failure if you do not try. Dealing with what is going on in the Middle East is going to take a long time. We sent a very good message. We went into Syria with planes, helicopters and troops. That sends a pretty good message.

Quote:

….Rappy
And FYI, there are ALWAYS U.S. citizens who are captured and held captive by SOME group, all around the world. It just doesn't always get reported. So that's nothing new that Obama has had to face, and not other Presidents. Usually these things get taken care of through back channels.



The problem is the French and others pay ransoms. I recently heard the French paid 10 million apiece for four hostages. That’s 40 million dollars France sent to al Qaeda. That creates quite the incentive to keep doing it. Again we need Europe to step up to the plate and stop rewarding these people. All they are doing is funding the terrorists. I am glad our President is sending a different message.



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Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:29 PM

AURAPTOR

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Thgr - my question was valid & legit. Not one ounce of innuendo or cynisism. Even frmr UN Amb Bolton agrees. This sort of info isn't to be revealed for 50 years after the fact.

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Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:35 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Thgr - my question was valid & legit. Not one ounce of innuendo or cynisism. Even frmr UN Amb Bolton agrees. This sort of info isn't to be revealed for 50 years after the fact.



There is your problem. If you are talking about John Bolton, he has extremist points of view. Therefore, because he voices the same concerns doesn't make the question any less cynical.


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Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:22 PM

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Bolton is by no stretch an extremist. Your lack of understanding ( iscel ) on the issues is your handicap.

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Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:47 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Bolton is by no stretch an extremist. Your lack of understanding ( iscel ) on the issues is your handicap.



No I remember John Bolton. He represented us in the UN for a year, year and a half. Bush put him there. He was a recess appointee who resigned before that appointment was up. He was too controversial.

What you have not understood about ISEL is that the Sunnis and other Arabs have to take the lead on the ground. All this is happening in the Middle East and they need to sort it out. Otherwise it appears as though we have taken the side of the Shiites over the Sunnis. That would be a big mistake.

Europe has to commit. Iran and other Shiite states like Iraq need to start recognizing the need to cooperate with the Sunnis. Only then will the Sunnis help eradicate these extremists. Other Sunni Arab nations like Saudi Arabia need to see we are not going to clean up after them. They are starting to realize ISEL is also a threat to them. They need to start cleaning up their mess. Patience is needed. If Obama did what you want we would be in this fight alone. Everyone else would sit back and let us carry all the burden. Not a good outcome.

As for who is most responsible for ISEL, that may be Assad in Syria. He released many of them from his prisons and avoided attacking them as they gathered strength. This is what he wanted. Now there is the, enemy of my enemy is my friend element that Assad wanted. Some have been saying all along Assad wanted to draw other counties into the conflict. Apparently the Saudi’s helped arm ISEL and it would be stupid to let them and other Sunni Arab states off the hook for this.



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Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Bolton is by no stretch an extremist. Your lack of understanding ( iscel ) on the issues is your handicap.


I have not figured out why you feed the troll. Hopefully it is not too exasperating for you.

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Thursday, August 21, 2014 7:27 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Bolton is by no stretch an extremist. Your lack of understanding ( iscel ) on the issues is your handicap.



No I remember John Bolton. He represented us in the UN for a year, year and a half. Bush put him there. He was a recess appointee who resigned before that appointment was up. He was too controversial.



Don't ya just love Wikipedia ?

Quote:



What you have not understood about ISEL ( Really ? How many different ways are you going to spell ISIL ??? ) is that the Sunnis and other Arabs have to take the lead on the ground. All this is happening in the Middle East and they need to sort it out. Otherwise it appears as though we have taken the side of the Shiites over the Sunnis. That would be a big mistake.



Really ? I don't understand ? I guess neither does SecDef Hagel, who despite being a colossal JOKE , STILL manages to understand the threat ISIL poses to the West and the U.S.

Quote:


Europe has to commit. Iran and other Shiite states like Iraq need to start recognizing the need to cooperate with the Sunnis. Only then will the Sunnis help eradicate these extremists. Other Sunni Arab nations like Saudi Arabia need to see we are not going to clean up after them. They are starting to realize ISEL is also a threat to them. They need to start cleaning up their mess. Patience is needed. If Obama did what you want we would be in this fight alone. Everyone else would sit back and let us carry all the burden. Not a good outcome.



France DID commit some already, or did you miss that ?

Quote:



As for who is most responsible for ISEL, that may be Assad in Syria. He released many of them from his prisons and avoided attacking them as they gathered strength. This is what he wanted. Now there is the, enemy of my enemy is my friend element that Assad wanted. Some have been saying all along Assad wanted to draw other counties into the conflict. Apparently the Saudi’s helped arm ISEL and it would be stupid to let them and other Sunni Arab states off the hook for this.





Assad already has the backing of Iran AND Russia. Now, we COULD have helped nip all this in the bud, by siding with the Free Syrian Army, a while back , but of course Obama and his 'hands off' foreign policy ( remember, the USA is the real evil according to Obama ) chose to do nothing, but make empty 'red line ' threats that he never intended on keeping.

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Friday, August 22, 2014 9:56 PM

AURAPTOR

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Hoping this is true !



Remember That ISIS Terrorist Who Threatened to Raise ‘Allah’s Flag’ Over the White House? He’s Dead




In a documentary from VICE News a week back we met Abu Mosa, the press officer of the ISIS terrorists, who peered into the camera and told Americans that he would “raise the flag of Allah in the White House.”
Well, that might be tough from his vantage point, because Abu has been killed:

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/170450-remember-isis-terrorist-threate
ned-raise-allahs-flag-white-house-hes-dead
/

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Monday, August 25, 2014 8:03 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hoping this is true !



Remember That ISIS Terrorist Who Threatened to Raise ‘Allah’s Flag’ Over the White House? He’s Dead




In a documentary from VICE News a week back we met Abu Mosa, the press officer of the ISIS terrorists, who peered into the camera and told Americans that he would “raise the flag of Allah in the White House.”
Well, that might be tough from his vantage point, because Abu has been killed:

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/170450-remember-isis-terrorist-threate
ned-raise-allahs-flag-white-house-hes-dead/


Praise allah.

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Monday, September 1, 2014 9:53 AM

ELVISCHRIST




ISIS reportedly waterboards its captives.


The Bush White House says they should also start crushing the testicles of their captives' young sons in an effort to extract information.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/29/world/meast/isis-waterboarding/

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Monday, September 1, 2014 10:41 AM

AURAPTOR

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Slowly having your head sawed off vs a refreshing, cool water boarding... Hmm. Tough choice.

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Monday, September 1, 2014 1:21 PM

JONGSSTRAW





Too late. Ba'raq Hussein Obama beat you to it.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2014 2:43 PM

AURAPTOR

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2nd American journalist , Steven Sotloff, beheaded.

Praise Allah!!

Wonder how Obama will celebrate this time.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2014 9:18 PM

JONGSSTRAW


British PM Cameron came out immediately to condemn the barbarous act. Obama has said nothing in over 24 hours .... must be waiting for a poll ... or the next $32,000 a plate fundraiser.

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
2nd American journalist , Steven Sotloff, beheaded.

Praise Allah!!

Wonder how Obama will celebrate this time.


Double Bogey?

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 8:12 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

2nd American journalist , Steven Sotloff, beheaded.

Praise Allah!!

Wonder how Obama will celebrate this time.


President Obammy will ask the DOJ to investigate whether the two beheaded journalists' civil rights were violated. That's the real crime.

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Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

2nd American journalist , Steven Sotloff, beheaded.

Praise Allah!!

Wonder how Obama will celebrate this time.


President Obammy will ask the DOJ to investigate whether the two beheaded journalists' civil rights were violated. That's the real crime.


Think you got it backwards. He needs to investigate whether the rights of the terrorists who performed the beheadings were violated. With those small, dull knives, they may have strained their limp wrists too hard - gotta give them medicare. May as well, every other non-citizen of U.S. gets it.

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Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:50 AM

AURAPTOR

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Australia raids foil reported ISIS beheading plots


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Australian counterterrorism forces detained 15 people Thursday in a series of suburban raids after receiving intelligence that the Islamic State movement was planning public beheadings in two Australian cities to demonstrate its reach.

About 800 federal and state police officers raided more than a dozen properties across 12 Sydney suburbs as part of the operation -- the largest in Australian history, Australian Federal Police Deputy Commissioner Andrew Colvin told the Associated Press. Separate raids in the eastern cities of Brisbane and Logan were also conducted.

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported that the plan involved kidnapping randomly selected members of the public off the streets in Sydney and Brisbane, beheading them on camera, and releasing the recordings through Islamic State's propaganda arm in the Middle East.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/09/18/australia-terror-raid-prompted
-by-isis-plans-for-public-killing-pm-says
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