More Gems from Todd Akin: Doctors Perform Abortions on Women Who Aren't Even Pregnant! by Kwicko

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More Gems from Todd Akin: Doctors Perform Abortions on Women Who Aren't Even Pregnant!

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UPDATED: Thursday, October 4, 2012 09:24
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Wednesday, October 3, 2012 3:43 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Yup, he really said that.

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"It is no big surprise that we fight the terrorists because they are fundamentally un-American, and yet we have terrorists in our own culture called abortionists. One of the good pieces of news why we are winning this war is because there are not enough heartless doctors being graduated from medical schools. There is a real shortage of abortionists. Who wants to be at the very bottom of the food chain of medical profession? And what sort of places do these bottom-of-the-food-chain doctors work in? Places that are really a pit. You find that along with the culture of death go all kinds of other law-breaking: not following good sanitary procedure, giving abortions to women who are not actually pregnant, cheating on taxes, all these kinds of things, misuse of anesthetics so that people die or almost die."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/todd-akin-abortion-providers_
n_1934305.html

No wonder the GOP is backing him!

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:20 PM

CANTTAKESKY

He was talking about scams some clinics allegedly run on women, telling them they are pregnant and giving them fake abortions. The idea that some clinics can scam their patients this way isn't that outrageous.

Akin probably got his info from documentaries like this one.

http://bloodmoneyfilm.com/

Or interviews with former clinic workers like the one quoted in this article:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/10/03/todd_akin_thinks_women
_who_aren_t_pregnant_get_abortions_he_s_not_alone_.html

I don't know if these scams really do happen. But the comment is not necessarily stupid. And it doesn't require that all women who get abortions be stupid (like the Slate article alleges). It is not inconceivable that in the history of abortions, some women who agree to them may not that bright and are easily manipulated, or have delusions of pregnancy that unscrupulous clinics take advantage of.

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Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:36 PM

KWICKO

So his argument seems to be that if there are unscrupulous individuals performing a service, that service should be outlawed?

Can we apply that thinking to banking, Wall Street, finance, energy, politics, corporations, courts, jails, wars, and executions?

Please?

And you really can't perform an abortion on someone who is not pregnant.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:44 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

I know in this country, doctors who perform abortions are often obstetricians who do a lot of other stuff relating to fertility other than perform abortions.

As far as I can see, an abortion where there is no foetus is called a curette or a 'd and c' ie dilatation and curettage and there are many medical reasons why these may be performed.

Unscrupulous or scam medical procedures are unrelated to the abortion issues, and may occur in any medical field.

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Wednesday, October 3, 2012 6:55 PM

CANTTAKESKY

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
So his argument seems to be that if there are unscrupulous individuals performing a service, that service should be outlawed?

No, his argument is that abortion clinics are the bottom of the health care food chain, that the back alley was never taken out of the service, that abortion physicians are the dregs of the medical profession. That it is the sort of field where you find unscrupulous providers.

It's obviously an ad hominem attack on the abortion issue.

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And you really can't perform an abortion on someone who is not pregnant.

Of course not. If he were a better spoken and better educated man, he'd say they were performing unnecessary D&C's.

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Thursday, October 4, 2012 9:24 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Excellent, Magons. Legitimate "abortions" where there is no fetus ARE what is called D&Cs here, and are very legitimate.

I can't deny there may be women dumb enough to fall for the scam CTS described; it's sick, but as he said, it's not at all beyond the realm of the possible. And yes, scams exist in ALL medical fields.

Magons, yes, CLINICS who provide abortions (because nobody else does anymore) also provide other medical services--VITAL ones--and all kinds of education and medical treatment. The right persists in focusing on abortions, which are in fact only 3% of what Planned Parenthood does, and getting rid of clinics and Planned Parenthood will deprive millions of low-income women of vital services they can't otherwise get, like cancer screenings and breast exams. It's sick, but then so much about the anti-abortion folks and how they think is sick, so...

What Akin said is sickest of all, possibly; his portrayal of abortion clinics makes me want to hurl; knowing that's what he BELIEVES is even worse. He's not just talking about abusive doctors, he's talking about the entire abortion-provider industry, and doing so in the most abominable and abhorrent terms he can come up with. Abortion clinics, Planned Parenthood in particular, are scrupulously clean facilities who treat women with RESPECT, something Akin obviously never learned how to do...nor does he care to. I hope he is roundly defeated...to have someone like that in office is repugnant to any thinking person, or certainly SHOULD be!

I take back what I said about him being a 19th century man; he belongs back in the 14th century when they murdered "witches"; he'd be right at home there!

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