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Torture Case to be Filed Against Dubya! He Cancels His Geneva Trip in Response!

POSTED BY: KWICKO
UPDATED: Saturday, February 5, 2011 09:24
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Saturday, February 5, 2011 4:04 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Speaking of "Done the Impossible"...

Since the Obama Administration won't prosecute him for his crimes, it falls to the Europeans to do it. And apparently Bushie is scared enough of arrest and prosecution that he's staying away!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/2/4/941374/-BREAKING:-CCR-and-E
CCRHR-To-File-Torture-Case-Against-George-W.-Bush
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You think that just because President Obama is afraid of the consequences of investigating the criminal Bush administrations State Sponsored Torture program that the former President and his henchmen are off the hook? Well think again. And this is not just on theoretically either. I’ll have a lot more detail on this on Monday, but here is what I got from a friend of mine at the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR)

President Bush was supposed to be in Geneva on Monday. He was going to address a group at the Hotel President Wilson. It was to be one of those big dollar events where the Ex-President speaks to a rah-rah crowd for a big passel of cash. That is now canceled, and just canceled this evening. Why is that?

Well you see the CCR and its allies in Europe had been preparing a bit of a surprise for the 43 President of the United States and unindicted torturer. They had been working for months to bring two complaints against George W. Bush under the International Conventions Against Torture. One in the name of Al Jazeera reporter Sami el-Hajj and a current CIA detainee Majid Khan, who is to this day held at Guantanamo Bay without charge.

CCR and the European Center of Constitutional and Human Rights have put together a 2.500 page case against the criminal President Bush and had intended to file it Monday when Bush was in Geneva. They had been keeping the a pretty tight lid on this, talking to reporters under a news embargo and preparing a press conference. Some how it seems that it has leaked and lo and behold, W suddenly can’t attend and the event is being canceled.

Of course this swill be spun by the organizers and the handlers for the former President, but I agree with Jen Nessel of the CCR when she says:

Whatever Bush or his hosts say, we have no doubt he cancelled his trip to avoid our case.

You may be able to play the law in one country. Your allies might be able to make the cost of following the rule of law so high that the administration following you finds their hands tied, but that does not make you safe from international law. It really doesn’t make you safe from domestic law, it just might buy you enough time to age and die without being indicted for your war crimes.

It has been said before and it bears saying again, if you are a torturer you had better not make any plans to travel outside the United States. You might think you can brag about ordering torture and swagger around. Keep thinking that, because the wheels of justice grind slow but they grind exceedingly fine!

I can’t tell you how happy it makes me to be able to talk about the real possibility of the members of Bush Administration facing a court for their war crimes. The only thing that would have made it better is if it was a U.S. Court. But justice is justice and I’ll take any step towards it that I can get.



He's now really no different than Mubarak - a virtual exile in his own country, unable to flee to anywhere else! He'll grow old, wither and die, a miserable and broken-down old tyrant. And if there's any justice, he'll do it in prison.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill


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Saturday, February 5, 2011 4:22 AM

CANTTAKESKY


What does this mean for Obama and future presidents who continue the torture?

Everyone knows it is still going on, right?


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Saturday, February 5, 2011 5:19 AM

WHOZIT


You're quoting the "Daily Koz"?... Really? Are the aliens from "Area 51" involved?

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Saturday, February 5, 2011 5:32 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by canttakesky:
What does this mean for Obama and future presidents who continue the torture?

Everyone knows it is still going on, right?




One hopes they'd be indicted under the same charge, of course. It's not just torture because the Republicans ordered it; it's torture because it's torture.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, February 5, 2011 6:54 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Fact is, it wasn't torture in the least.

Under your rules, it's ok to shoot them in the field, but to splash some water on them , in order to save the lives of civilians and 'real' soldiers, that's a crime ?

Funny.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, February 5, 2011 8:13 AM

CANTTAKESKY


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
One hopes they'd be indicted under the same charge, of course. It's not just torture because the Republicans ordered it; it's torture because it's torture.

Agreed.

It would be poignantly funny to see US presidents from Bush onwards not be able to travel outside of our own country and those countries on our state terrorism list.


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Saturday, February 5, 2011 9:24 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:

It would be poignantly funny to see US presidents from Bush onwards not be able to travel outside of our own country and those countries on our state terrorism list.




Not just funny, but goddamned justified!

And by our OWN justifications for when we invade other nations, would WE be subject to invasion ourselves, for the things done to us (and others) by our government? Torture, kidnaping, killing...

Be poetic justice for some other powerful nation to come "liberate" us from our government!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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