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Obama administration official wants trees to sue!!!

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Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:43 AM

CREVANREAVER


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Since the 1970s, some radical environmentalists have argued that trees have legal rights and should be allowed to go to court to protect those rights.

The idea has been endorsed by John P. Holdren, the man who now advises President Barack Obama on science and technology issues.

Giving "natural objects" -- like trees -- standing to sue in a court of law would have a "most salubrious" effect on the environment, Holdren wrote the 1970s.

"One change in (legal) notions that would have a most salubrious effect on the quality of the environment has been proposed by law professor Christopher D. Stone in his celebrated monograph, 'Should Trees Have Standing?'" Holdren said in a 1977 book that he co-wrote with Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich.

"In that tightly reasoned essay, Stone points out the obvious advantages of giving natural objects standing, just as such inanimate objects as corporations, trusts, and ships are now held to have legal rights and duties," Holdren added.

According to Holdren and the Ehrlichs, the notion of legal standing for inanimate objects would not be as unprecedented as it might sound. "The legal machinery and the basic legal notions needed to control pollution are already in existence," they wrote.

"Slight changes in the legal notions and diligent application of the legal machinery are all that are necessary to induce a great reduction in pollution in the United States," Holdren added.

Holdren, who is the new director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and President Obama's top science advisor, made the comments in the 1977 book "Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment."



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Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:15 AM

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They can start at Bohemian Grove, to save the giant redwoods from death by urination from George Bush and US Supreme Court.

Which Roman dictator married his horse?

Aint that the same book where Holdren wanted to poison the water supply to force castration and sterilization?

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Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:27 AM

SIGNYM

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Aint that the same book where Holdren wanted to poison the water supply to force castration and sterilization?
Yeah, but that book only exists in your head.
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"In that tightly reasoned essay, Stone points out the obvious advantages of giving natural objects standing, just as such inanimate objects as corporations, trusts, and ships are now held to have legal rights and duties," Holdren added.
If "ships" can have legal rights and standings, why not trees or rivers?

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Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:10 PM

RUE

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Because ... because ... that's different !
:eyes crossed:

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Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Aint that the same book where Holdren wanted to poison the water supply to force castration and sterilization?
Yeah, but that book only exists in your head.
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"In that tightly reasoned essay, Stone points out the obvious advantages of giving natural objects standing, just as such inanimate objects as corporations, trusts, and ships are now held to have legal rights and duties," Holdren added.
If "ships" can have legal rights and standings, why not trees or rivers?



Well, first somebody's gonna hafta figure a way to monetize trees and rivers having legal rights...



donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

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Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:17 PM

WHOZIT


Does that mean eatting fruit and vegatables is murder or abortion?

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Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:19 PM

RUE

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In your case, cannibalism (assuming you meant 'eating'.)

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Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
In your case, cannibalism (assuming you meant 'eating'.)
AHHAHAHAHAHA!!.......hold that -->
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