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President Odumba bans free speech

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:08 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Yeah, burglers normally carry suitcases BEFORE they break into homes...

Quote:

STRINGER AIDE RESIGNS AFTER CALLING PRESIDENT 'O-DUMB-A'

Lee Landor, who had been Stringer's deputy press secretary since May, posted a series of comments on her Facebook page over the weekend criticizing Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. and the president, the weekly newspaper City Hall News reported on its Web site today.

Landor had previously worked as a reporter for The Queens Tribune and as an editor for The Queens Chronicle before joining Stringer's staff.

"Ms. Landor's comments were totally inappropriate and in direct contradiction to the views of the borough president and his office," Dick Riley, Stringer's communications director, said in a statement posted on the newspaper's Web site.

"The borough president has accepted Ms. Landor's resignation, effective immediately."

Landor could not be reached for comment and her Facebook page had been deactivated on Monday.

Images of the Facebook posts -- which were captured by City Hall News before the page was taken down -- showed that Landor blasted the president for how he handled the situation last week.

"O-dumb-a, the situation got 'out of hand' because Gates is a racist, not because the officer was DOING HIS JOB," she wrote.

Facebook: http://cityhallnews.com/news/132/ARTICLE/2040/2009-07-27.html

Gates was arrested by a white officer last week at his home in Cambridge, Mass., on a disorderly conduct charge -- which was later dropped -- after a neighbor saw him trying to break into his own home.



Audio: Cop calls for backup:



911 Transcript:
www.nypost.com/seven/07272009/news/nationalnews/transcript_of_gates_91
1_call_181639.htm


The arrest prompted a national debate on racism and police practices in this country.

Gates was arrested by a white officer last week at his home in Cambridge, Mass., on a disorderly conduct charge -- which was later dropped -- after a neighbor saw him trying to break into his own home.

In another post, Landor wrote that racial profiling "does exist, but for good reason."

"Take a look at this country's jails: who makes up the majority of inmates? Exactly," she added.

In yet another post, Landor wrote, "You know what, I am really getting SICK of hearing about how white people are evil racists... I get it -- white men have dominated for hundreds of years and there's a lot of anger there. But HOW MUCH MORE can the white people people do to correct past injustices of their ancestors?"

www.nypost.com/seven/07282009/news/regionalnews/manhattan/stringer_dep
uty_press_secretary_defends__181772.htm



I'm sick of white nazi cops, lying news repeaters, commie politicians, black racists and illegal alien presidents.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:15 AM

HERO


If President Obama had banned free speech, as your title suggested, then your post would have been much shorter.

Ironically...shutting you up is the best argument I've ever heard for getting rid of free speech. I'm not saying we should...but you give us pause to consider.

Lets face it, PN would make Thomas Jefferson say, "somebody gag this bitch".

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:11 AM

PIRATENEWS

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I think I like that name.

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It's got a nice ring to it.

This morning our local black Republican radio suckup played one of Pastor Manning's rants/sermons on Odumba being an illegal alien. I've had that posted on my website and FFF for months. Guess that's why the news corporations want my videos, to liven up their boring broadcasts.



That's a good idea. Next time a cop asks for your driver license, just tell him, "I don't have to show you my driver license, just like President Odumba don't have to show his birth certificate. You have no standing to question my qualifications, according to US Supreme Court and the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution."

HA. And the white cop who arrested the black professor once kissed a black ballplayer on the lips, for a very very very long time...
http://cityhallnews.com/news/132/ARTICLE/2040/2009-07-27.html

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:40 AM

BYTEMITE


It's like a circus, except instead of feeling bad and uncomfortable for the performers humiliating themselves, I'm getting on the "don't care" annoyed side of things.

Scary clowns.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:56 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I didn't see anywhere in your cited articles where Obama himself stepped in and banned free speech. Can you point it out for me, if you're allowed to by your NWO masters?

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:39 AM

PIRATECAT


PN, I just got pulled by the Border Patrol last night on I-10 east headed towards Tucson coming from the Diamondbacks game. Then the sheriff's deputy and highway patrol pull up. The excuse was my license plate didn't match the vechicle. Now why would you check my plates while driving. They did match but I'll tell you why because I have a sticker that says "Give Peace a Chance Kill a Terrorist". Now I went throught this same BS at a state park that I go to for hiking the last two years the day before. Police state, when I lived in Charlotte NC I always got pulled for having a union sticker on the back of the truck. Now there I took Barney Fife to court over it. Yes I won the case. Freedom of Speech were losing it. Nazis are liberals always said that. Later Gator PC

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:43 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Yeah, I'm sure that's it, PC - the border patrol, the sheriffs, the police... they all hate your freedom of speech against terrorists.


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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:50 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
If President Obama had banned free speech, as your title suggested, then your post would have been much shorter.

Ironically...shutting you up is the best argument I've ever heard for getting rid of free speech. I'm not saying we should...but you give us pause to consider.

Lets face it, PN would make Thomas Jefferson say, "somebody gag this bitch".

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.



LOL!

Brilliant.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:07 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Just for the sake of editing the title.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:35 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
If President Obama had banned free speech, as your title suggested, then your post would have been much shorter.

Ironically...shutting you up is the best argument I've ever heard for getting rid of free speech. I'm not saying we should...but you give us pause to consider.

Lets face it, PN would make Thomas Jefferson say, "somebody gag this bitch".

H



Gotta disagree. As annoying as PN is, I'll still support his privilege to speak here (and yes, I said "privilege" as opposed to "right", because this isn't a "public" forum, it's a membership forum). The best counterpoints to voices like PN's are facts and ridicule. Point out the truth, and ridicule and mock his ludicrous claims. Or ignore him completely. Banning him is what he'd LOVE you to do, because it validates his martyrdom.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.


If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college...

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:56 AM

BYTEMITE


Hey, I'm for his speaking too, but more for just the principle of it.

I may not always agree with PN, like on outer-space, jews, homosexuality, and all the irreversible doom. I think an overly fatalistic viewpoint discourages action. That's something I can't support.

But banning for different thinking leads to unlovely precedents.

I dunno, I do consider this a public forum. Membership is required, but there are no requirements for membership (well, except internet access). It's not like we're stopping anyone from joining.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:51 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
If President Obama had banned free speech, as your title suggested, then your post would have been much shorter...

...Lets face it, PN would make Thomas Jefferson say, "somebody gag this bitch".

H



Doubtful . Very doubtful :

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/zenger/freespeech.htm

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/04/should-obama-control-inter
net


For his own safety , and purposes of national security , O2tB has been taken to a ' secure , undisclosed location '. Meanwhile ,
his message to the outside is , ' Help ! the paranoids are after me...'

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:23 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


ADL's jewish Hate Speech Act was passed by perverts in Congress this month by adding it to the military budget act.

Ironically, Odumba will only sign the ADL's Kosher Pedophile Protection Hate Speech Act if Congress cuts F22 fighters from the budget, to further kill the US economy and military readiness for his Commie/Fascist takeover. So the Military Industrial Complex might just whack him, like they did JFK.

Dont F with free speech of the MIC.



As for taking action, we need more folks to infiltrate the media mafia. Start your own public access TV show, buy a cheap local radio show, biatch at city council. Even musicians can speak out, like the Bedlam Bards' Hush Little Citizen. I'm now selling videos to local news corps, rather than posting free on youtube, which actually allows me a little control over their editorial process. This also gives you an opportunity to geek out with Hollywood types.

As for banning my Constitutional right to free speech and free press, Reporters Committee on Freedom of the Press is doing an article on a local judge banning me from court during the alleged redlight sniper trial. Seems the Police State dont like folks to know that cops confessed to shooting the scameras, which explains why cops and prosecutors destroyed all ballistic evidence and audio "confessions" and "consents to search", then fired the redlight scamera company for "suspected fraud and bribery" that now refuses to testify in this case.
http://piratenews.org/order-denying-pntv-media-request-1july09.pdf
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2009/04/usapatriot-act-torture-of-st
udents-in.html


Quote:

Prosecutor Zane Scarlet: "The enclosure [with alleged bullet holes in it] was never taken into confiscation by the police department. Therefore I cannot produce it because it has never been in our control."

Defense attorney Ron Newcomb: "Your Honor, not only do we have the cover, but we don't have it in its location, because one of the issues is..."

Judge Mary Beth Liebowitz: "Where the shots came from, obviously." (or which caliber gun or whose gun was used)

1 May 2009 Hearing Transcript
www.cliffspeaks.com/5-1-09_Hearing_Transcript.pdf

1 July 2009 Hearing Trasncript
www.piratenews.org/clifford-clark-motions-transcript-1july2009.doc

www.piratenews.org/hollywood.html


Engineer/pilot/musdician/nurse Cliff Clark stalked, carjacked and assulted by undercover cops/informants, who prosecutors refuse to prosecute for assault unless new charges are filed against Clark ("violating bail" by getting beaten up in his own car by strangers hitching a ride)



Jury trial #1 is 10 August, with 3 more jury trials after that. They want to frak his a$$ bad! And they don't want the sheeple to see it.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


First of all, Landor was not arrested, charged, or jailed. Landor was FIRED by her boss. Obama wasn't involved, and this had nothing to do with making free speech "illegal". (Expensive maybe, but not illegal.)

Secondly, IMHO nobody should be FIRED for what they say off-duty. Accepting that logic means anybody could be fired for saying anything: a restaurant cook might be fired for saying something bad about canola oil. That's not right.

But third, I think that Landor should be challenged and possibly sued for defamation of character by Gates.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:39 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


As per the article:

UPDATED, 11:15 a.m. — Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer’s deputy press secretary has abruptly resigned after spending time at the office railing against Barack Obama ...

The comments were posted at 11:43 a.m. on Friday, July 24, while Landor was apparently working in the borough president’s office.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:57 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
ADL's jewish Hate Speech Act was passed by perverts in Congress this month by adding it to the military budget act.

Ironically, Odumba will only sign the ADL's Kosher Pedophile Protection Hate Speech Act if Congress cuts F22 fighters from the budget, to further kill the US economy and military readiness for his Commie/Fascist takeover. So the Military Industrial Complex might just whack him, like they did JFK.

Dont F with free speech of the MIC.







Can you give us one good military reason why the F-22 Raptor program should continue? Defense Secretary Robert Gates has called for its cancellation, citing the fact that it has no mission whatsoever at this time, or in the foreseeable future.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.


If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college...

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:58 PM

PIRATECAT


Kincko the ass face I know when I am being harrassed. I'm just not scared of cops like you. Most of them are crooked. Just ask for there badge number see how quick they have to leave. You are such A jackoff.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:16 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


The only reason F22 should stay IS TO DEFEAT THE KOSHER ADL HATE SPEECH ACT that will destroy free speech, free press, and freedom of religion. So when the Hate Bill is vetoed by Odumba, F22 dies too.

Pentagon is way too quick to kill good jets and close US bases. But then again, the US military's job has nothing to do with protecting USA. In fact, they're gearing up to attack USA, uh, "domestic terrorists".

Nobody hates on cops until their a$$ gets gored. Each traffic ticket destroys citizen support for police. Just our city cops sue 200,000 annual tickets against the 160,000 residents on Knoxville TN. I supported cops until my 2 cars got stolen by them. Now I'm their "enemy" for life. Ironically, my cars were stolen by cops in retaliation for my newspaper article about police-approved murder of a cop. Until you get mad, you'll never take action to get even. Meanwhile, your pension is being stolen, your job is being outsourced and your body is being poisoned, no matter if civilian or govt employee.

But if we can ever get the cops to join the side of Patriots, and get military commanders to enforce The Law against crooked politicians, then we can do 1776 all over again. After all, Pentagon has yearly drills to overthrow and arrest US Govt in every town and city in USA...

Ron Paul was asked about violent Revolution today on Infowars radio, as the "Fed" gets closer to Paul's bill for audit.
http://infowars.net/articles/july2009/290709Bernanke_stutters.htm

Are you ready for martial law in your home town? Think Katrina and 9/11, multiplied by 1,000...

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:21 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by out2theblack:
Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
If President Obama had banned free speech, as your title suggested, then your post would have been much shorter...

...Lets face it, PN would make Thomas Jefferson say, "somebody gag this bitch".

H



Doubtful . Very doubtful




Wait - wasn't someone here trying to have you banned? Or was that just a lie you made up out of desperation?

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:23 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


To comment a little further on the article:

Dick Dadey, the executive director of Citizens Union, a good-government group, said Landor’s comments were inappropriate because they were made on government time and with government resources.
“The use of social networking sites during the work day by government employees is not something that should be permitted
, unless it is specifically a part of a communication effort of the elected official or department for which they work,” Dadey said. “Commenting on a political matter not germane to the performance of their job during work hours is questionable.”

That's a standard I can agree with. The rest is more problematic

Dadey added that allowing government employees, especially those involved in representing elected officials to the public, to comment on political issues on personal websites made it difficult to discern official policy from private opinion.
“It’s easy to draw conclusions that they’re blending the personal with the political in questionable ways,” Dadey said. “The line becomes blurry as to whether they’re representing themselves or the elected official.”

Whaaaa ????? So, just b/c you work for employer X you lose your freedom of speech on your own time ?

And really, is it THAT hard to discern a PERSONAL opinion on a PERSONAL website ?

So, what if your employer is the Beef Producers of America - are not not allowed to comment on your own time using your own resources on a site you've paid to belong to that being a vegetarian uses fewer resources ? Or if you work for public agency Z are you not allowed to criticize a politician ?

THAT is scary stuff.


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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by PirateCat:
Kincko the ass face I know when I am being harrassed. I'm just not scared of cops like you. Most of them are crooked. Just ask for there badge number see how quick they have to leave. You are such A jackoff.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".




Maybe you were being profiled, and they were on the lookout for poor white trash in a faded red '82 Trans Am on four mismatched retreads. Did they get you coming out of your trailer park, or turning in to it?

Why would I be scared of cops? On their best day, they're merely a nuisance. I don't think badly of cops, because I don't think much of anything about cops.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:


“The use of social networking sites during the work day by government employees is not something that should be permitted, unless it is specifically a part of a communication effort of the elected official or department for which they work,” Dadey said. “Commenting on a political matter not germane to the performance of their job during work hours is questionable.”



Ruh-roh. Has "Hero" been made aware of this?

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:30 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Wait - wasn't someone here trying to have you banned? Or was that just a lie you made up out of desperation?



Yes, I'm forever banned from posting on my own thread on FFF:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=38893

Seems 24 posts about the #2 story of the 21st Century to "too radical" for the Web Police. The post that broke their back was quoting the Kosher ADL website that quoted Michael Jackson's song about Palestine.

But over 4400 other people find that thread very interesting. It also made me respect Mike Jackson a little more. That song would get Jackson jailed for Kosher Hate Speech by ADL (if he weren't murdered), and jail anyone who owns or plays that song, ironically if this Pedophile Protection Act is signed by Odumba.

FFF is actually an excellent RWED forum BTW. Fanfic is also state of the art.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:40 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Wait - wasn't someone here trying to have you banned? Or was that just a lie you made up out of desperation?



Yes, I'm forever banned from posting on my own thread on FFF:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=38893

Seems 24 posts about the #2 story of the 21st Century to "too radical" for the Web Police. The post that broke their back was quoting the Kosher ADL website that quoted Michael Jackson's song about Palestine.

But over 4,000 other people find that thread very interesting. It also made me respect Mike Jackson a little more. That song would get Jackson jailed for Kosher Hate Speech by ADL (if he weren't murdered), and jail anyone who owns or plays that song, ironically if this Pedophile Protection Act is signed by Odumba.

FFF is actually an excellent RWED forum BTW. Fanfic is also state of the art.




Two things:

1) I seriously doubt you're "banned" from replying on that thread. I just tried, and had no issues, so the thread isn't locked (if that's even a feature available on this forum's software), and you're here, so you're obviously not "banned".

2) Odd that YOU replied in the first-person when I addressed Out2Lunch. Maybe you and he are one and the same? An "Operative", perchance?

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:46 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Two things:

1) I seriously doubt you're "banned" from replying on that thread. I just tried, and had no issues, so the thread isn't locked (if that's even a feature available on this forum's software), and you're here, so you're obviously not "banned".

2) Odd that YOU replied in the first-person when I addressed Out2Lunch. Maybe you and he are one and the same? An "Operative", perchance



Apparently its just me that's blocked on that thread, which wouldn't even let me edit my posts to change the title back to its real title (no "EDIT" link when I open that thread). But at the same time I could post on any other thread or start a new thread. The title of my thread is changed to "Ban PirateNews! Haken, please limit his posts or something." That is not my title, obviously.

The censors are getting more sneaky on all forums. I can't even check my posts using Proxify.com on newspaper sites, which now don't show comments unless registered and signed in. Then banned sheeple can still read their own posts, thinking everything is ok, but their posts are blocked from all other users. Super Secret Sneaky!

I used to be an Operative. You had to pay $300-million in warcrimes reparations to Libya in 2008, thanks to the work I did for Uncle Scam. A pissed off Operative is Uncle Scam's worst nightmare.
www.piratenews.org/pentagonwhistleblower.html

Quote:

Mal: "Like to kill you myself, I see you again."

Operative: "You won't. There is nothing left to see."


It was Odumba's Operatives who banned Ms Landor's free speech. Odumba employs 10s of millions of paid Operatives.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:28 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"Odumba employs 10s of millions of paid Operatives."

Oh, so THAT'S where the stimulus money is going - to create jobs !

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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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It was Odumba's Operatives
Really? Obama knows Stringer?
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who banned
Not banned. Not even fired. Resigned.
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Ms Landor's free speech.
Not free. Written on government time.
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Odumba employs 10s of millions of paid Operatives.
Maybe even 300 million? Except the 800 million illegals?


BTW... How come YOU answered instead of O2B???

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Maybe even 300 million? Except the 800 million illegals?



Well, it does take an awful lot of Operatives to watch all those illegals crossing over the border...

I guess PN has no problem with anyone spying on those illegals, just as long as they aren't spying on HIM. I find that a bit curious; seems if you're against the Stasi, you're against them all the way, not just a little bit. 'Course, I can see why PN would like them, what with him claiming to be one of them and all...

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BTW... How come YOU answered instead of O2B???



Kinda what I was wondering myself. Apparently O2B has slunk off and is still in hiding.

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