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Teenage IQ drops 6 points

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 12:25 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/4548943/British-teenagers-
have-lower-IQs-than-their-counterparts-did-30-years-ago.html


Lobotomy by MSG, aspartame, fluroide, GMO, corn syrup, mercuty vaccination, mercury teeth, mercury corn syrup, The Sun by Fox.

Commie Chinese melamine ain't kicked in yet.

All part of the diabolical plan by NWO Inc.


www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/pages/book.htm


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Sunday, February 8, 2009 1:18 PM

DREAMTROVE


John, you have the wrong culprit. Try mj.

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 3:05 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:


www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/4548943/British-teenagers-
have-lower-IQs-than-their-counterparts-did-30-years-ago.html


Lobotomy by MSG, aspartame, fluroide, GMO, corn syrup, mercuty vaccination, mercury teeth, mercury corn syrup, The Sun by Fox.

Commie Chinese melamine ain't kicked in yet.

All part of the diabolical plan by NWO Inc.


www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/pages/book.htm


Oh brainwashed! Took me awhile to figure that out

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 4:36 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
John, you have the wrong culprit. Try mj.



Michael Jordon?

Michael Jackson?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 5:19 PM

PIRATECAT


Not good. For every two point IQ drop leads to higher increase in high school drop outs, teenage pregnancies, and crime. Which is caused by single parenting. The world is getting more complicated. The minimum IQ will be alot higher than today to be functional in society. OK time to build more prisons.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 5:36 PM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
John, you have the wrong culprit. Try mj.



Michael Jordon?

Michael Jackson?



Marijuana?

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Sunday, February 8, 2009 8:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Computer games. Television.

The brain needs actual physical exercise in order to develop, not just "stimulation". (I can link dozens of studies, but I won't. Not feeling well.)

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

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Monday, February 9, 2009 2:46 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Proof this epidemic has crossed the pond:

30% of Amerikans don't know when or where 9.11 happened:



Could be the crack. Or meth, smack, blow, booze, meds, Pax, etc.

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Monday, February 9, 2009 3:42 AM

DREAMTROVE


yy

we have a winner

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Monday, February 9, 2009 5:13 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Michael Jordon?

Michael Jackson?


No. He means MJ...a Masters Degree in Journalism. Nothing kills braincells like the nightly news.

Although he could mean General Sir Michael David "Mike" Jackson (born March 21, 1944), a British army officer.

H

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Monday, February 9, 2009 5:32 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


So skewed. This is the typical of every graying generation, "in my day...." blah blah blah, whine, winge, fart.
I am constantly impressed with the kids I meet, they seem emotionally much stronger and more enlightened than my generation ever was at their age. They still do stupid things (especially driving), but they are new at a lot of it.
Also take into consideration that today's kids have a lot more to learn, with computers, phones and digital technology in general. Most adults can't figure out how to work a digital watch, hand it to a 5 yr old and they'll have it picking up weather reports from Russia.
World news? National news? Less "me me me?" Maybe not so much, but wouldn't that be the teaching generation's fault and not theirs?

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Monday, February 9, 2009 6:36 AM

PIRATECAT


PB, IQ is a reading of cross the board intelligence. Low IQs leads to apathy. The positive side young people are easier to exploit. Which makes my life fun.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Monday, February 9, 2009 8:29 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by PirateCat:
Not good. For every two point IQ drop leads to higher increase in high school drop outs, teenage pregnancies, and crime. Which is caused by single parenting.



All of this is caused by single parenting...?

I'm sceptical. I think that a large number of kids with two parents don't necessarily spend more time under parental supervision than single-parent kids, if both parents are working, which they often have to do. This shouldn't all be blamed on absentee fathers, even though, obviously, they should be more involved in their kids lives.

I think there are many factors that formed a cultural shift of kids spending more time passively consuming (information, food) than actively pursuing. The increase of single-parenting may be one factor, but there are others. After all, kids learn from their environment and the people they learn passive consuming from are their parents, be they one or two.

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Monday, February 9, 2009 12:13 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And yet, somehow, we keep finding kids who grow up smarter, push the envelope further, expand our knowledge and abilities more, break all "unbreakable" physical records, et cetera.

Seems while we're whining about how much we're doing wrong, we still seem to be doing something right!

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Monday, February 9, 2009 12:20 PM

STORYMARK


A lot of the IQ tests used are outdated, and do not reflect the reality of today's world. They are also somewhat notoriously bad at correctly pegging the IQ of non-white students.

I've actually been doing some work in this area for my job lately.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, February 9, 2009 12:58 PM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
And yet, somehow, we keep finding kids who grow up smarter, push the envelope further, expand our knowledge and abilities more, break all "unbreakable" physical records, et cetera.

Seems while we're whining about how much we're doing wrong, we still seem to be doing something right!

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."



I have to say, though, that I wonder how representative single high achievers are of the whole group and whether they should be considered when we examine the average kid.


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Monday, February 9, 2009 1:07 PM

MOBBEX


lol. Sure, let's take the smartest ones out of the equation. Then you're bound to end up with a so called "average teen" figure that fits with your preconceived idea of it.

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Monday, February 9, 2009 1:20 PM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by Mobbex:
lol. Sure, let's take the smartest ones out of the equation. Then you're bound to end up with a so called "average teen" figure that fits with your preconceived idea of it.



Come on. What was described in the post I replied to were extraordinary achievers, not the entirety of the "above average" part of the curve.

You can't pick the most gifted and expect them to be any indication on how the less highly gifted are faring educationally and mentally. If IQ is dropping (assuming the study is legit) then this means something and it's not just playing around with numbers.

People with natural talent and a supportive environmnt will do well, but the occurence of a few kids benefitting from this combination does nothing to indicate the actual prevalance of truly supportive environments, or how many kids grow up in unsupportive environments. A lowered average IQ does that, though. Because it deals with the average.

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Monday, February 9, 2009 1:26 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Mobbex:
lol. Sure, let's take the smartest ones out of the equation. Then you're bound to end up with a so called "average teen" figure that fits with your preconceived idea of it.



Fact is, high achievers don't nessesarily have high IQs, so we're talking about different measures, here. High IQ kids often perform poorly in school - especially public school.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, February 9, 2009 1:33 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:


And yet, somehow, we keep finding kids who grow up smarter, push the envelope further, expand our knowledge and abilities more, break all "unbreakable" physical records, et cetera.

Seems while we're whining about how much we're doing wrong, we still seem to be doing something right!



Mike

We do everything wrong. But the best thing about us is that we are capable of seeing it.

I think this probably the single over-arcing point in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and in the movie as well.

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Monday, February 9, 2009 1:48 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:


Fact is, high achievers don't nessesarily have high IQs, so we're talking about different measures, here. High IQ kids often perform poorly in school - especially public school.



Tell me about it; I did *horribly* in school. So bad, in fact, that I dropped out. Stayed out 10 years, worked my ass off at any job I could find, and then dropped in to college, where I kept a 4.0 GPA. Apparently some kinds of learning institutions agree with me more than others. Or I just needed to learn the discipline necessary to slog through the classes I didn't enjoy.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Monday, February 9, 2009 4:02 PM

FREMDFIRMA


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Low IQs leads to apathy.

I do believe you have that backwards.
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High IQ kids often perform poorly in school - especially public school.

There's reasons for that, factually - ANY kid does more poorly in public school than otherwise, and that includes not just private or homeschooled, but even self-educated folk.

Most of whom you'd play merry hell getting to cooperate without some kind of incentive too, cause a lot of them (like me) are pissed that without the bullshit paper folks way dumber with more money and more time on their hands (as in 2-4 years of it) they are considered morons.

Believe me, a lot of anarchists are really bright, and a lot of them are more than a little psychotic about being perceived as loser idiots cause they didn't blow 30-80k and a couple years of their life on a piece of paper that says so.

So you have to take into account that the folks willing and able to pay the "Join the club fee", and willing to submit themselves to endless drudgery where the amount of "learning" is shall we say, more than debateble...

Are not in my opinion the sharpest pencils in the box, thankee verra much.

America's Most Overrated Product: the Bachelor's Degree
http://chronicle.com/free/v54/i34/34b01701.htm

If being broke, in debt up to your eyebrows and wasting a couple years of your life to get the paper, and a the REST OF YOUR LIFE, trying to break even, cause yanno, the mortgage and the car payments, not to mention the rest of the bills... all with the tax bite on top, and never really breaking even as much as hoping your debts don't get passed on to your kids when you die (and one way or another, they do...) is being "smart" ?

Then PLEASE call me an idiot.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:59 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:


There's reasons for that, factually - ANY kid does more poorly in public school than otherwise, and that includes not just private or homeschooled, but even self-educated folk.



I prefer unejikated. Glad to see you understand. It took me years to get this. I took a lot of random college classes to get me started on various hobbies, and I was always at the top of my class. Considering my own educational background: 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th grades, there was little to explain it. There was also little to explain why the children of the rich did so well at everything (better genes? better connections? better education? money can buy anything?) And then I came down to the simple answer that solves all of these questions:

Time. I simply had more free time than the rest of them, and rich kids had more free time than I. So that's the secret. And, oh, yeah, let me just reiterate the one sailient point here of Frems:

Boy do I not miss having that 100k debt that some of the folks I know have. There are plenty of pieces of paper out there that you can get for only 100k in debt that will enable you to make 100k incomes with if you're up for 80hrs/week of work, and 5k local tax, 15k in fica, 33k in fed tax, 8k in state tax, and don't mind relocating to some absurd local where it's 110 degrees and your house costs so much that you're paying 30k a year in mtgs. Yeah, I know more than a few people in this very position. Ah yes, they're successful. Well, A little quick addition and that looks like 9k in take home income (I know four off-hand who are actually burrowing themselves into more debt they're so successful.)

So, if that's success, might as well












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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:35 PM

FREMDFIRMA


That image second from the bottom is prolly one of CIRCAs people - mixing anarchy, mockery, and hilarity into a very effective package.

They're great folks, should you ever meet any.
http://www.clownarmy.org/

-F

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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:45 PM

DREAMTROVE


Circas clown :)

The middle one is the best argument for 9/11 conspiracy theory I've ever run into, and apparently, this sort of thing is real: My brother who loathes conspiracy theories said after some study of Al Qaeda he found it hard to believe that they were a credible threat to anyone but themselves. Other people I've know who've dealt with them say things like, it's impressive if these guys can get a taxi to the right address in Baghdad, let alone put a bomb in it and not blow themselves up in the process. Their teen IQ is also dropping, and there's a lot of opium use involved. Not too astonishing that our own MORANS are running scared

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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:22 AM

FREMDFIRMA


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hard to believe that they were a credible threat to anyone but themselves.

On that note, if you ever wanna throw a wrench into an Anarchist collective, just encourage them to start building bombs.

Hilarity will ensure, pretty quickly - note for the record that historically they've wiped out more anarchists than targets, almost every single time they tried it!

You'd think after a while, they'd learn...
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like, it's impressive if these guys can get a taxi to the right address in Baghdad, let alone put a bomb in it and not blow themselves up in the process.

Early on during this mess, one of the troops I had contact with made mention of the fact that like eighty percent of those car bombs were in american made cars, which are fairly rare over there from what I hear.

And then there was the iraqis catching some brits in the act of trying to plant one...

And then there was that really suspicious garage explosion, with a whole plenty crapload of secondaries that wiped out a buncha intel folk from a country that shall not be named...

Topped off with the ludicrous explaination that Al Qeada was running auto theft rings in the US to get the cars (Fox News, of course) which makes utterly no logistical sense.

His solution was simply to have his troops avoid american made cars when possible, since then he's lost none to carbombs.

Enough to make you wonder, that is.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 AM

DREAMTROVE


It's funny that the media loves the image "suicide bomber" because it supports their position "monkey people don't value life." In an american city where carbombings are rarer, but not all that rare, the driver is usually called 'the victim' rather than 'the suicide bomber' because the assumption is that someone else put the bomb in his car. This is the assumption in the rest of the world. Every time I've looked into this muslims want to die because they believe they will get 72 virgins thing, it hasn't added up. I think generally a muslim wanted to go downtown and get some takeout, but someone had gone and put a bomb in his car. It's widely reported in the muslim world like that. Now, sometimes that person will be al qaeda types, sometimes it will be us, and there are a lot of stories of that. I don't know if either has specific targets in mind or just was trying to cause chaos. I remember when the IRA was doing it, they'd frequently get the wrong car, and occassionally blow themselves up setting it up. No one ever called them "suicide bombers" they just assumed the guys fucked up setting up the bomb.

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