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Sunday, April 8, 2007 3:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just ooc I took the test twice. The first time I got: I100 N88 T88 J11- The rational mastermind

The second time: I78, N75, T100, P22- The rational architect

I think it's interesting that I got different results even tho I should have (in theory) remembered enough of the questions to make the test more repeatable. I suspect that the number of questions is too small, so that the final result is subject to differences in perhaps only three or four answers.

Anyway, the Mastermind... yeah baby, that's ME! I take great pleasure in devising, implementing and improving systems... I wrote up our Laboratory Approval Program, and our group QA program. I devised a system of data storage that works pretty well (I'd love to improve it, but I can't get the go-ahead to load the Linux software that would make it SO much easier!) and quite a number of methods. Except I started looking at the INTP and saw bits of myself in there too, especially the word games. On my way to work, I try to make words out of the three letters in order on our license plates. One of my crowning achievements? BBZ (bamboozle)

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Sunday, April 8, 2007 5:03 AM

CANTTAKESKY


INTJ here. Very I, very N, very T, bit flexible on the J and P.

Just a heads up, these online versions have never been studied or normed. If you get a chance, try taking the official MBTI.

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Sunday, April 8, 2007 7:14 AM

FLETCH2


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
I might be an INTP as my J was only 1%.



Well it's too late to change horse now. While you INTJ's have been plotting world domination the Sarge and I have been designing the world's most perfect society. We aren't going to start over now just because YOU'RE here.

Seriously I had this test administered professionally about ten years ago and came absolutely on the INTJ/INTP boundary within the error rating of the test. I suspect people are far more complex that a simple test can determine.

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Sunday, April 8, 2007 8:01 AM

DECAF


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I suspect that the number of questions is too small, so that the final result is subject to differences in perhaps only three or four answers.



I'm not so sure that increasing the number of questions would have any effect. I mean, how many ways can you ask, "are you this or are you this?" before people are second guessing themselves.

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch2:
I suspect people are far more complex that a simple test can determine.



Obviously no number of personality types can categorize life experience, but we're talking about baseline behavior right? So it comes down to what parts of the brain are more active than others and how they combine to generate behavior. To that end, I agree its not perfect, but it is very functional. I seriously recommend picking up the Linda Berens book I posted above (its only $7 and the information is a lot more thorough then what you can find on the internet) if you are curious in the least.

Also, I would like to note that as long as I've been reading this stuff, J and P are always the hardest to determine for iNtuitives. Mostly because we don't use this function in an immediate kind of way like the Sensors. That doesn't necessarily mean can't be in the middle, but a test result that shows just that incorrectly has been know to happen.

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Sunday, April 8, 2007 8:42 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


DECAF- I've heard (altho never experienced) that The Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI) is full of repreated questions phrased both positively and negatively, and asked using different terms. For example "mercy v justice" could be rephrased as "fairness v leniency". Where people do not feel strongly either way, their answers have a tendency to flip-flop on particular point and self-cancel. Also, the sheer length of a test causes people to stop being so "careful" with their answers and possibly a bit more spontaneous and revealing. But hey, I get to be Mastermind in this test, so I'm sticking with it! Another test have less.... er... grandiose ... results!

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Sunday, April 8, 2007 9:10 AM

GEEKMAFIA


And another INTJ "Mastermind" right here, it certainly fits as I do tend to be the "planner" of those I know. Also the whole "natural leader but tries to avoid leading if at all possible thank-you-very-much" is pretty much hitting the nail on the head. Although it is worth pointing out, I am terrible at chess so my problem solving/contingency planning-ness may not be up to scratch with my fellow masterminds. Still it's nice to know i'd make an excellent hatchet man/CIA operative. Be careful what you say guys... the masterminds are watching. MWAHAHAHA




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Sunday, April 8, 2007 6:24 PM

DECAF


Quote:

Originally posted by Geekmafia:
I am terrible at chess so my problem solving/contingency planning-ness may not be up to scratch with my fellow masterminds.



Its worth pointing out that I don't know any INTJs who are particularly good at it. We tend to decide too quickly what we want to do and what our opponent is going to do. P's definately have the edge. I would guess that the highest proficiency would develop in an INTP, but I think an ISTP has a decent chance too.

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Monday, April 9, 2007 3:24 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

I suspect people are far more complex that a simple test can determine.
Of course, your suspicion is absolutely correct. Tests are like photographs; they capture one image from one angle in one moment in time.

Whenever I administered the test professionally, I tell people these preferences are like hand dominance. The theory is that most people prefer one hand over another from certain activities. Some people are more ambidextrous than others. The tests throws various activities at you to see which hand you would use for each; then simply tallies both sides to see which hand is used more frequently.

Here's another thing. It is entirely possible to consciously try to change one's preference. When I was doing social work, I focused on the F side of me and tested out as an F instead of my normal T.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:57 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


INFP - I'm an idealist. Which is a) no surprise and b) a nice fit with the hippie vibe

Not pleased that everyone seems to have really cool people in their group and I have Princess Diana and ET. (wtf???) Still, I see Citizen, YinYang and Lance are in the club, so cool

I refuse to believe that Geekmafia is a mastermind. I refuse to believe it.




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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:51 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


I've been evaluated professionally with all sorts of tests. According to everything I'd would be most happy as a fighter pilot, librarian, or forester. But I'm happy doing what I'm doing - counting molecules and atoms and seeing what it means.

As was mentioned above the only trait for which there exists solid data is introversion/ extraversion.

Also, I think your situation at the time can change how you respond. During a VERY busy time in my life when I was on rotation 40 hours a week and also working 40 hours a week I didn't have the time to indulge my 'intuitive' side. So the test came out much closer to 'sensing'.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:19 AM

FLETCH2


I suspect that's true. At the time I was tested the company I worked for had done a limited release of a new product. My job consisted of firefighting problems found in the field and then trying to integrate any solutions into the product ahead of the final release, so in effect I was both INTJ'ing the crisis management and INTP'ing a better design.

I don't think it surprising that as a group we are a lot alike, internet societies and fan groups tend to be self selecting. I do wonder if most online scifi fandoms have the same kinds of people or if there is something about Firefly that appeals to INTJ/P-ers in particular?

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:14 PM

DECAF


Myers-Briggs did a good thing in making type theory easily accessible, but their stuff is, for the most part, scratching the surface of research in the field. A better analysis comes from Jung's translated works (though I don't subscribe to his collective unconcious theories).

I will definately agree with the effect of someone's frame of mind. Like when kids are raised to be a certain way that runs against their nature.

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
I'm happy doing what I'm doing - counting molecules and atoms and seeing what it means.



Nice to see another fume-inhaler. Kinda sorry my first post in your direction was callin' you a heckler

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Wednesday, April 12, 2023 6:33 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Conspiracy?

So there was a time your personality was different


Mine changed a bit during lockdowns, it might have been changing for a while each week, maybe scorning mocking our clownish world, a little resentful, more disbelief, Low Mood maybe
I imagine booze or alcohol will not help mood


Events around you can impact your personality


As for special holy people mentioned

Dalai Lama apologises for asking boy to ‘suck my tongue’ in video

https://www.georgeherald.com/News/Article/National/dalai-lama-apologis
es-for-asking-boy-to-suck-my-tongue-in-video-202304111147


BOTH Fox and CNN defend his pedo weirdness

One view which I have not changed
I always suspected super worshiped religion type people as creepy and odd

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Wednesday, April 12, 2023 9:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Are you asking me, personally, if my personality was different in 2007 than it was now.

I should say so, yes.

Find me one person who is the same as they were at 28 as they are at 43.

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Wednesday, April 12, 2023 10:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you asking me, personally, if my personality was different in 2007 than it was now.

I should say so, yes.

Find me one person who is the same as they were at 28 as they are at 43.

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I took the test again to see...

In 2007 I was INFJ.

Today, in 2023, I was INTJ:

INTJ
Introvert(59%) iNtuitive(25%) Thinking(47%) Judging(47%)

You have distinct preference of Introversion over Extraversion (59%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (25%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (47%)
You have moderate preference of Judging over Perceiving (47%)


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Introverted iNtuitive Thinking Judging

To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most people of this type start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

People of this type are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest. What prevents them from becoming chronically bogged down in this pursuit of perfection is the pragmatism so characteristic of the type: INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing them from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake.

INTJs are known as the "Systems Builders" of the types, perhaps in part because they possess the unusual trait combination of imagination and reliability. Whatever system this type happens to be working on is for them the equivalent of a moral cause to an INFJ; both perfectionism and disregard for authority may come into play, as INTJs can be unsparing of both themselves and the others on the project. Anyone considered to be "slacking," including superiors, will lose their respect -- and will generally be made aware of this; INTJs have also been known to take it upon themselves to implement critical decisions without consulting their supervisors or co-workers. On the other hand, they do tend to be scrupulous and even-handed about recognizing the individual contributions that have gone into a project, and have a gift for seizing opportunities which others might not even notice.

In the broadest terms, what INTJs "do" tends to be what they "know". Typical INTJ career choices are in the sciences and engineering, but they can be found wherever a combination of intellect and incisiveness are required (e.g., law, some areas of academia). People of this type can rise to management positions when they are willing to invest time in marketing their abilities as well as enhancing them, and (whether for the sake of ambition or the desire for privacy) many also find it useful to learn to simulate some degree of surface conformism in order to mask their inherent unconventionality.

Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.
Personality Types: INTJ

This happens in part because many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals; for instance, they tend to have little patience and less understanding of such things as small talk and flirtation (which most types consider half the fun of a relationship). To complicate matters, people of this type are usually extremely private, and can often be naturally impassive as well, which makes them easy to misread and misunderstand. Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense. :-) This sometimes results in a peculiar naivete', paralleling that of many Fs -- only instead of expecting inexhaustible affection and empathy from a romantic relationship, the INTJ will expect inexhaustible reasonability and directness.

Probably the strongest INTJ assets in the interpersonal area are their intuitive abilities and their willingness to "work at" a relationship. Although as Ts they do not always have the kind of natural empathy that many Fs do, the Intuitive function can often act as a good substitute by synthesizing the probable meanings behind such things as tone of voice, turn of phrase, and facial expression. This ability can then be honed and directed by consistent, repeated efforts to understand and support those they care about, and those relationships which ultimately do become established with an INTJ tend to be characterized by their robustness, stability, and good communications.



Jesus... That's me to a T in 2023.



For the Joke result, INFJ:

Quote:

INTJ: The outside contractor

INTJs are solid, competent personalities who may seem aloof and even arrogant, but who are typically highly skilled in any field which interests them. INTJs are confident in their skills and knowledge, self-assured, and imaginitive; their exceptional problem-solving skills make them ideal architects, auto mechanics, and tools of the evil empire. While it requires the driving will to conquer of an ENTJ to imagine the Death Star and the evil genius of an ENTP to invent its devastating weapons systems, the skill and technical prowess of the INTJ is what makes the whole thing work.

The INTJ sees life as a problem to be solved. For that reason, the INTJ is the person a company brings in from the outside to streamline production processes and identify redundant assets for termination. The INTJ's combination of analyticial problem-solving skills and complete and utter disregard for the morality or consequences of his actions also make him ideal for the job of hatchet man, CIA operative, and helpdesk operator.

RECREATION: INTJs are often baffled by the strange and incomprehensible recreational rituals of other people, such as going to parties, watching television, and having sex. Instead, they prefer to spend their leisure time installing twin missile launchers in their cars to deter tailgaters and playing chess with megalomaniac CEOs of the Tyrell corporation.

COMPATIBILITY: Silly person, INTJs don't have relationships! They may, however build their own friends.

Famous INTJs include J. F. Sebastian and Sgt. Apone.



Well... I was at one point a help desk operator, I don't watch TV, I gave up sex for lent years ago and it stuck and the only thing I can't stand more than a 2020's Democrat is a tailgater.



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Wednesday, April 12, 2023 6:00 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


OMG too effing funny!!

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Tuesday, May 21, 2024 12:08 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Tuesday, May 21, 2024 2:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Should personality tests have a place in the workplace?

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/workplace-personality-tests-employer
s-050011785.html



Without reading the article I can tell you that no, I don't agree that they do.

They're not a solid indicator of a person's behavior at best, and really could tell you nothing at all or make you believe that somebody is not who they say they are at worst.



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