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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 7:04 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Have you?

For us Americans today is election day. Go vote; it's fun and patriotic.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 7:19 AM

SKYWALKEN


I voted a few hours ago and want to remind my fellow Americans that a vote for a Democrat is a vote for the values of John Kerry, who thinks that the men and women serving in Iraq are stupid. I'll let you make up your own mind on who the majority of U.S servicemen and servicewomen support.


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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 9:26 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Quote:

Originally posted by Skywalken:
I voted a few hours ago and want to remind my fellow Americans that a vote for a Democrat is a vote for the values of John Kerry, who thinks that the men and women serving in Iraq are stupid. I'll let you make up your own mind on who the majority of U.S servicemen and servicewomen support.





But they are stupid, just like every other American who thinks his vote is going to count, so wheres your point going?

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 9:31 AM

DREAMTROVE


All true,

I voted for republicans, but not because john kerry is an idiot. He wasn't running. Democrats annoyed me with their overcampaigning and their complete failure to produce a workable plan that would attact businesses, promote peace and prosperity and salvage my remaining civil liberties. The main message I got from democrats this election was:
Give us the Ring of Power... We wants IT!
((o- MY PRECIOUS -o))



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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 9:37 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


You voted REPUBLICAN because they are your DEFAULT? THAT's a good reason !

Now for a serious question - you know that republicans have serious ethics problems. Even being a majority in both houses with a republican president and the power to hold or withold hearings was not enough to save a large number of republicans from prosecution - and conviction. Why do you continue to support the den of thieves?

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 10:49 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I voted. The place was emtpy. 1 other lady voted while I was there. It took less than 10 minutes from start to finish. I voted for 4 Libertarians, 1 Democrat, and a handful of Republicans.

It's funny to hear of all these problems across the country that some are having at the polling places. Voting was already easy, but now w/ these touchscreen machines, a turnip could do it. If you've ever successfully used an ATM, you're overqualified to vote. It's absurdly simple.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 10:52 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Why do you continue to support the den of thieves?



You mean like Congressman William Jefferson ( D- LA ) ?

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 11:11 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


More like House Majority Leader DeLay, Bush's domestic advisor Claude Allen, Cheney Chief of Staff Lewis Libby, Ohio Rep Bob Ney, California Rep Cunningham and many others I don't have time for.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 11:18 AM

KANEMAN


Mostly republicans...And I voted Joe.....Lamont is just very, erm..uncool.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 11:58 AM

SOUPCATCHER


Just got back from the registrar's office. I'm a permanent absentee voter but I like to drop off my ballot on the day of the election. Helps me get a tiny feel for the general level of excitement. I happened to hit the place during the lunch hour and they were doing a very steady business.

Also, I'm pretty sure I just made the cutting room floor. On my way out the door a reporter from the local news station asked me if the mayor's race had increased my desire to vote in this election. When I told him we live in an unincorporated area and don't get to vote in that race he immediately stopped recording and walked away. Does that count against my fifteen minutes?

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:06 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"Does that count against my fifteen minutes?"

NAH.

But I've clocked maybe 20 seconds against mine in a major film. If you look closely at "The Insider" I am one of the bona fide scientists they used as extras for the film.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:06 PM

DEEPGIRL187


I voted before class. Does anyone else hate how the proposals are worded? I had to look up some of them just to make sense of it all. And does anyone else go "eeny meeny miney moe" when it comes to the non-partisan stuff? Half the people I hadn't heard of.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:19 PM

STORYMARK


School's just ended, so I'm on my way to vote now.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:51 PM

FREMDFIRMA


No time for a long post... voted this morning, standard issue paper/opscan balloting - they had ONE touchscreen and everyone avoided it like it was covered in HIV - I guess they had to provide the option, but no one would even go near it.

Spent/spending the rest of the day covering for the local dept, to run off any goons/ghouls/intimidators from either party - and preventing sign-spamming on the property of unwilling victims.

Politics is a bit less fun than a root canal, but little to no chicanery here today, guess they save that for further downtown.

-Frem

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:55 PM

SOUPCATCHER


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
But I've clocked maybe 20 seconds against mine in a major film. If you look closely at "The Insider" I am one of the bona fide scientists they used as extras for the film.


Very cool, Rue!

Oh, and since you brought up "The Insider," and you've expressed support in the past for me quitting smoking, I wanted to let you know that I haven't smoked a cigarette in two months.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 1:07 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


HOLY SMOKES !!! Pun intended. WAAAaaaayyyy cool for you ! : dancing a jig :

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 1:22 PM

WILLIAMJAMESW


Voted and donated blood, two years in a row that both happened to be on the same day. We use the opti-scan (pen on paper - fill in the line)in my area, not a touch screen in sight.

I could stand to hear a little more.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 1:49 PM

DREAMTROVE


Rue,

New york republicans are not particularly scary. They're much like me. We never get the "evolution's just a theory" sort.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 2:27 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I voted with Inkavote. I really like it. We used to have the infamous punch card system before 2000, but by 2004 the punchards were gone, gone, gone.

Not too many people at our polling place but (a) I live in a wealthy neighborhood and (2) I got to the polls about 30 minutes after they opened.

We had a LOT of ballot initiatives and bond measures this year. I had to study the information package for a couple of days before I could figure them out!

I used to be realy excited about the ballot initiative process until I saw a couple of real clunkers pass. The so-called Three-Strikes Law (Polly's Law) was fine in theory, but badly written. Most of the legislators knew is was junk, but it had built up so much steam in public opinion that everybody was afraid to point out some rather serious flaws.

I've also seen problems with designating taxes for specific purposes. (Bonds, IMHO, are a different story.) The problem with that is the state fiscal situation changes, needs change, priorities change very quickly- for example Enron changed the CA budgetary landscape in just two months. That kind of micromanagement really thwarts effective governance.

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 2:45 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Ahhh, you have the kind that tricks people into thinking ... you know ...

The problem is, as I see it, that they are support for their radical and unethical brethren. At a certain point you're voting for the party. Is the republican party what you really want? (Or are you thinking, I would want them, if only I could change them somehow ... they're worth my loyalty if it gives me time to fix them so I could REALLY love them ...) ?
Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Rue,
New york republicans are not particularly scary. They're much like me. We never get the "evolution's just a theory" sort.


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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 3:05 PM

DC4BS



I voted early this morning.

I was up anyway cause of the idiot Dem suporters shouting and marching around on the corner waving "Stop Bush" signs... As if he were even on the ballot.

If I wasn't already registered Republican, Id have changed over this season if for no other reason than to disassociate myself from the hysterics.

God I wished I had a paint ball machine gun this morning... I had a perfect shot from my bedroom window.

I am _N_O_T_ a morning person.

I put on a tie-dye t-shirt, sweats, sneakers w/ no socks. The idiots marching didn't blink when I walked in to vote. People dressed in suits got dirty looks and shouts...

Yah, the DEMS are the ones being intimidated at poling places?!?!?!?

Puh-lease!

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dc4bs

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 3:06 PM

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN


Always! Ok I forgot one year that I would be out of town on Election Day when it was too late to cast an absentee ballot, but other than that I've always voted and take it seriously. My state is one of the few that is requiring a paper trail of the ballots so we went from electronic machines to a piece of paper where you fill in circles. It felt like I was taking a test (especially since I vote at a school) but it is good to know there is a paper record of my vote.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 4:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


DC4BS

$250,000 Reward For Evidence of Election Fraud


Quote:

Washington, Nov. 7 -- MoveOn.org Political Action is offering a $250,000 reward for new material evidence leading to a felony conviction for an organized effort of partisan voter suppression or electronic voting fraud.

Throughout the day accusations of election fraud and voter suppression incidents have been flooding into state and federal authorities throughout the country. In Virginia, the FBI has launched a criminal investigation into charges of voter suppression. In 20 Congressional districts, NRCC robocalls appearing to come from Democrats harassed voters with repeated calls in an apparently coordinated campaign to suppress the vote.



You said
Quote:

I was up anyway cause of the idiot Dem suporters shouting and marching around on the corner waving "Stop Bush" signs... As if he were even on the ballot. If I wasn't already registered Republican, Id have changed over this season if for no other reason than to disassociate myself from the hysterics.
Are you SURE it was Democrats marching around???? I got involved in a sitaution where a supposed Democratic campaign worker was standing in front campaign HQ handing out pix of an obviously retarded kid with the phrase VOTING FOR (REPUBLICAN) IS LIKE WINNING THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS- YOU MAY WIN BUT YOU'RE STILL RETARDED. Turns out the guy was a Republican.

So, those demonstrators may have been robo-Republicans.

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 6:24 PM

ROCKETJOCK


This discussion reminds me of a Robert Heinlein story, a non-sf humor piece about a local election in post-WWII middle America. It was, among other things, a catalog of dirty pre-election PR tricks.

It culminated with the underdog side in a machine-controlled city countering a series of dirty tricks by the incumbent with a few dirty tricks of their own. The one that stick in my minds is hiring a bunch of bums out of the railyard (that's how old the story is; you could still call them "bums"...), feeding them each a limburger-and-sardine sandwich, handing each a pile of leaflets for the incumbent, and sending them out for some door knocking and up-close discussion with the voting public. "Listen pal, you wouldn't like what would happen if this district doesn't vote right, not with your car parked right out on the street like that, you get my drift?"

Myself, I don't see much difference between the Republicrats and the Demagogs, but I voted today, oh yes. Got to renew my "Right To Bitch" license, Y'know.

And that's the bottom line. If you don't vote, buddy, you ain't got a right to bitch.

"Democracy is the worst possible form of government. Except for every other." -- Winston Churchill

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 6:36 PM

SIRI


First time I found this thread. I was hoping to read a bit about people's politics on this site.
Someone from another site I'm on sent me this link which is a report on voting problems - machines and human - rather interesting.
It's a documentary called "Hacking Democracy."
I couldn't get the link pasted in but if you cut and paste it works.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7236791207107726851&sourceid=
docidfeed&hl=en-CA


I heard a report that more people are voting absentee bc they are concerned about their votes being counted correctly. I voted manually by ballot - partly because the lines for the machine were so long and partly bc I'm not sure I trust them.

And yes, what how we vote in the US does affect the rest of the world. Guess we really all are connected.



Siri

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 6:37 PM

DREAMTROVE


Actually,

I went and read the online literature for each candidate for each position, including the real lunatics like the Rent is Too Damn High party.

Then I weighed who had a clear plan, experience, and ability, and would not create boondoggle govt in my face, and who might actually bring jobs to this area. The winner was usually the republican, but like auraptor, there were a couple libertarian votes in there.

Clearly, the democrats motivated their own mindless hoards (the 'I always pull the blue level' crowd) - by witness of this fact, check out Hillary's vote total, or Spitzer's. (my local dems call him the 'police state' vote.)

Anyway, Democrats won everything. Now, for everyone on Team Blue there is a brief feeling of euphoria because you beat the bad guy. Not the globalists, Bush et al. the regular run of the mill local republicans. In fact, odds favor that you kicked a moderate republican out, rather than a core bushy.

That feeling will fade, and reality will set in, "you" didn't win, your team won, just as "you" don't win against the Mets, the Yankees win against the mets... and in time we'll see exactly what it is they've won.

Either they democrats do have a plan, and they enact that plan, and it succeeds in helping the economy, recovering world opinion, etc. Or they don't, in which case, there will probably be a deadlock, unless they impeach Bush, which they should. Of course, an impeachment of Bush will never go through unless they are willing to make a deal with the republicans to have a neutral figure such as Powell take the helm. (He's served in both republican and democratic administration, I guess that makes him neutral)

I'm naturally a little uneasy with the results, I think that a lot of good people, with no real connection to the president, suffered because of hatred of Bush - but I'm willing to give the democrats the benefit of the doubt and see if they can pull something together.

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 7:47 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by Skywalken:
I voted a few hours ago and want to remind my fellow Americans that a vote for a Democrat is a vote for the values of John Kerry, who thinks that the men and women serving in Iraq are stupid. I'll let you make up your own mind on who the majority of U.S servicemen and servicewomen support.



Kerry is Bushes' Skull & Boner cousin. Both are related to Vlad the Impaler, aka Count Dracula, and Countess dracula Elizabeth Bathory, convicted of 600 ritual murders to drink the blood of female virgins (as seen this Halloween on History Channel). At least Kerry didn't dodge the draft, go AWOL, disobey a direct order for a drug test and get demoted from pilot to mail clerk, and get sentenced to six months extra duty for desertion. Kerry was paid a $51-million bribe ("leftover campaign contributions") to take a dive and refuse recounts in 2004.



Here's Bush Jr's homosexual pick for running his 9/11 Commission coverup, who loved to RAPE (sodomize) US soldiers in Vietnam Wars:

Quote:


"In Haig's presence, (Sir Heinz "Henry") Kissinger (Knight of the British Empire) referred pointedly to military men as 'dumb, stupid animals to be used' as pawns for foreign policy. Kissinger often took up a post outside the doorway to Haig's office and dressed him down in front of the secretaries for alleged acts of incompetence with which Haig was not even remotely involved. Once when the Air Force was authorized to resume bombing of North Vietnam, the planes did not fly on certain days because of bad weather. Kissinger assailed Haig. He complained bitterly that the generals had been screamin for the limits to be taken off but that now their pilots were afraid to go up in a little fog. The country needed generals who could win battles, Kissinger said, not good briefers like Haig."

"On another occasion, when Haig was leaving for a trip to Cambodia to meet with Premier Lon Nol, Kissinger escorted him to a staff car, where reporters and a retinue of aides waited. As Haig bent to get into the automobile, Kissinger stopped him and began polishing the single star on his shoulder. 'Al, if you're a good boy, I'll get you another one,' he said."

SOURCE:

Bob Woodward & Carl Bernstein
The Final Days
second Touchstone paperback edition (1994)
Chapter 14, pp. 194-195



Homosexual Jew Lt Bob Woodward was US Naval Intelligence stationed in Vietnam during the wars, then was promoted to the Pentagon where he was liason between US joint chiefs of staff and 4-star General Al "Deep Throat" Haig, who was Nixon's backstabbing White House chief of staff during Watergate... Did Heinz polish Haig's stars in return for Haig "polishing" Heinz?

200,000 DEAD US Gulf War soldiers, and 500,000 disabled US Gulf War soldiers, so far, 90% killed by friendly fire, sabotaged vaccines, radioactive uranium, and WMD chemical weapons made-in-USA. Yeah, they love a convicted alcoholic drunk-driving drug-dealing homosexual rapist felon like Bush Jr, who perped the 9/11 terrorist massacres in USA, whose family business is partnered with the Bin Ladens and steals parked cars in USA as car bombs for CIA and MI6 to kill US soldiers in Iraq, and brags on TV that he's the dicktator.



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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 7:59 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by Siri:
First time I founnd this thread. I was hoping to read a bit about people's politics on this site.
Someone from another site I'm on sent me this link which is a report on voting problems - machines and human - rather interesting.
It's a documentary called "Hacking Democracy."
I couldn't get the link pasted in but if you cut and paste it works.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7236791207107726851&sourceid=
docidfeed&hl=en-CA

Siri



Yes, that's an AWESOME documentary. #3 on Google's Top 100 Videos. Too bad nobody gets HBO.

What's missing are the citizens' arrests of election criminals using fully automatic machine guns shooting into police stations, punctuated by dynomite, like we do to combat election fraud here in Tennessee (after copsters start shooting voters and killing them to keep them away from the polls):
www.jpfo.org/athens.htm
www.rootsweb.com/~tnnews/kns001.htm
www.knoxnews.com/kns/state/article/0,1406,KNS_348_5120667,00.html

"You can't stop the signal!"
-Mr Universe, Pirate TV

FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2
Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php
www.myspace.com/piratenewsctv
www.piratenews.org


Does that seem right to you?
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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 8:42 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


DT,

More than anything I hope there are bona fide investigations into the Bush administration, something that would NEVER happen under republican rule. So that's one thing a democratic majority in both houses could get you - justice. At least an accounting. And that's worth something.

Unfortunately, for Democrats to get anywhere fixing the country back up, they'd have to have a 2/3 majority in both houses. Even IF they had a simple majority in both (which may or may not happen), anything they might want to do would get vetoed by ... Bush.

"I think that a lot of good people, with no real connection to the president, suffered because of hatred of Bush" Voting in national elections really is about national politics. You can't make your national decisions on local interests. Local interests are what local politicians are for. And mid-terms are generally thought as referenda on the existing administration. So it's no surprise.

"democrats - mindless hoards" Wow. You sound bitter.


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Wednesday, November 8, 2006 5:03 AM

CENTURY22


As they say in Chicago... Vote early and often.


You can't stop the signal.

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Wednesday, November 8, 2006 6:12 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
But I've clocked maybe 20 seconds against mine in a major film. If you look closely at "The Insider" I am one of the bona fide scientists they used as extras for the film.


Very cool, Rue!

Oh, and since you brought up "The Insider," and you've expressed support in the past for me quitting smoking, I wanted to let you know that I haven't smoked a cigarette in two months.



Congrats! I'm at about 5 month myself, and I hardly miss it at all anymore. Good going!

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, November 8, 2006 10:07 AM

SOUPCATCHER


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
But I've clocked maybe 20 seconds against mine in a major film. If you look closely at "The Insider" I am one of the bona fide scientists they used as extras for the film.


Very cool, Rue!

Oh, and since you brought up "The Insider," and you've expressed support in the past for me quitting smoking, I wanted to let you know that I haven't smoked a cigarette in two months.



Congrats! I'm at about 5 month myself, and I hardly miss it at all anymore. Good going!


Thanks, Rue! And thanks and congrats, Storymark!

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Wednesday, November 8, 2006 6:12 PM

SOUPCATCHER


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Why do you continue to support the den of thieves?



You mean like Congressman William Jefferson ( D- LA ) ?


I just read something today that reminded me of this comment, AURaptor. Jefferson will be in a run-off election because he didn't get a majority of the vote. Some of the left blogs are throwing their support behind one of the challengers, Karen Carter. You probably don't feel like going over to DailyKos to read the entire entry but here is an excerpt:
Quote:

excerpted from http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/8/22911/0286
It seems that the elections never end on election day anymore. There are several recounts afoot and a run-off in Texas. There's also a run-off in Louisiana, where state Rep. Karen Carter will face off against corrupt U.S. Rep. William Jefferson in LA-02.

This race matters because we need to send a strong message, a message that the Democratic Party won't tolerate corruption on either side of the aisle. Come January, we're finally going to take back the House. But before we do, we need to clean house first. And that's why the Swing State Project, DailyKos and MyDD are officially endorsing Karen Carter in her runoff on Dec. 9th.

...


If you want to donate money to Rep. Carter's campaign, AURaptor, you can go to this ActBlue page: http://www.actblue.com/page/bluemajority?refcode=DKosLA-02

Looks like she picked up about $500 in the first hour. If she's going to seriously challenge someone who takes $100,000 bribes it's going to take a little more than that.

On a broader note, I remember you complaining about Cynthia McKinney earlier this year. I'm sure you appreciated the Democratic voters in her district knocking her out in the primary and replacing her with a much better Democratic candidate.

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Mon, April 6, 2020 22:17 - 77 posts
Globalist Elite gather in Davos to decide fate of US Dollar
Mon, April 6, 2020 22:14 - 9 posts
Elections 2020
Mon, April 6, 2020 22:11 - 380 posts
Dow @ 20K. Time to jump off!
Mon, April 6, 2020 21:49 - 1095 posts
In Memoriam of the 156,154 people in the world who died of soemthing else today...
Mon, April 6, 2020 21:34 - 5 posts
The British Leader Boris Johnson was sent to hospital with Corona, Boris Johnson's condition worsened with COVID-19 symptoms, now he has been moved into intensive care
Mon, April 6, 2020 17:40 - 1 posts
new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
Mon, April 6, 2020 16:51 - 1136 posts
Countdown Clock, Trumps Removal 'Starts'
Mon, April 6, 2020 10:56 - 310 posts
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