JonBenet Ramsey: CIA's Electroshocked Mind-Control Sex Slave

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Monday, August 28, 2006 1:11 PM


John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed wooHOO!!!!!!

WARNING! The Manchurian Media Mafia is lying to you!

Quoting from Cathy O'Brien's autobiography, "Access Denied for Reasons of National Security":


They (FBI agents Jeff Bennett and Chuck Crabtree) were aware of Huntsville's reliance on (Senator Robert) Byrd's Senate appropriations funds for their NASA opearations, yet had no inside knowledge of mind control operations. I explained how (US Army Ranger Colonel Michael) Aquino (founder of the Satanic Temple of Set) used me in the training video "HOW TO CREATE A MIND CONTROLLED SLAVE USING A STUN GUN" that was filmed in Huntsville [Alabama by NASA], and even provided details of local persons involved.

Video by this title was reported to have been found at the JonBenet Ramsey householdafter her 1996 murder, and her autopsy proved stun prod marks on her 6 year old body, "STUN GUN USED IN RAMSY KILLING", December 20, 1997, Los Angeles Times.

billionheiress JonBenet Ramsey

A middle aged woman stood up, "Jon Benet Ramsey was murdered last December, and after reading TRANCE (Formation of America) it is clear to me that she was probably under mind control. Stun gun prod marks were found all over her body; she was dressed age inappropriately with a plastic smile and pupilary dilation; a perverse pedophilic sex act on Christimas killed her [suffocation to near death causes dissociation out of body experience and dissociated split personality]; her mother was Miss West Virgina; her father was a military subcontractor like your father; and the whole case is being covered up! Does your case tie in with hers in any way?"

"Yes", Mark answered, then turned to me. "Excuse me for answering this question first since it is directed to you." Turning back to the audience he continued, "Ongoing investigations make this a very sensitive subject right now since a copy of the military training film "HOW TO CREATE A MIND CONTROL SLAVE USING A STUN GUN" was found in the Ramsey house. Cathy was used in a military training film by that title. Also, a manifest from the ferry traveling between Traverse City, Michigan and Beaver Island registers JonBenet's father and Cathy's father on the same ferry ride."

I injected, "My younger brother was nicknamed 'Beaver' after this so-called religious [Catholic] retreat. Beaver Island is in close proximity to the Ramsey household in Charlevoix, where JonBenet also held the beauty pagent title."

Mark continued, "Beaver Island is an identified mind control training center associated with the [Catholic] Jesuits. People working for the media mogul [Sir] Rupert Murdock [Jewish Knight of the British Empire, and current citizen of Australia] have this evidence. Let's see what he does with it."

"We'll never see what he does with it!" someone skeptically shouted.

"He'll investigate it the same way the CIA is investigating itself!" and "He'll cover it up!" were voiced.

"Recently when I saw my [CIA sexslave] daughter Kelly [lobotomized by DOD at Vanderbilt University Medical Center and incarcerated in the Tennessee foster jailhouse system and forced to suffer torture in Satanic rituals and human sacrifices under illegal orders of Tennessee judges], I quickly began in an effort to minimize the pandemonium, "she cried when she said, 'the only difference between me and JonBenet's murder is that she can't be abused anymore.' JonBenet's murder has prompted rumors of mind control and caused people to think to ask questions the media won't answer. People are learning that the media is as controlled as JonBenet appeared to be."

"Did her mother, Patsy Ramsey, kill her daughter like the media suggests?"

Mark answered the question with a question. "Isn't it ironic that John Ramsey married a 'Patsy'?"

"The precious child did not die in vain," I said solemnly. "Her memory lives on in all of us. How many more have to die before people in this country wake up and stop pedophilia, mind control, and New World Orders?" "Knowledge is your only defense against mind control," I said. "Please, help us spread the word for Kelly's sake, JonBenet's sake and for the sake of humanity's future."


MSNBC on 27 August 2006, again reported the fact that stun gun marks were found on JonBenet's body, and broadcast photographs of those 2-prong marks. MSNBC quoted TASER Corporation's admission that the marks indicated use of its product, which is a product routinely used daily by the US Govt's Police State for torture and murder of 1,000s of US citizens in USA.


The Intruder Theory

Newsweek, MSNBC

Examining autopsy photos, Smit noticed unusual sets of abrasions on JonBenet's back and face. Smit wondered if they had been made by a stun gunan unlikely weapon for a parent to use on a child. Smit measured the marks and discovered they matched a brand of stun gun called the Air Taser. He began to believe the killer may have used the stun gun on JonBenet as she slept, then carried her to the basement. The Boulder police were skeptical of Smit's stun-gun theory, and showed some of the autopsy pictures to Arapahoe County coroner Dr. Michael Doberson, who had researched stun-gun wounds. Doberson said he didn't think the marks were from a stun gun. But recently, NEWSWEEK asked Doberson to review Smit's stun-gun evidence. Doberson says the police never showed him Smit's pictures comparing the size and orientation of the marks with the electrical contacts on the Air Taser. He now calls Smit's stun-gun theory "compelling."


"Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. The hardest part of gaining any new idea is sweeping out the false idea occupying that niche. Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively, and without self-delusion- in the long run these are the only people who count. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it - it keeps him upright."
—Robert A. Heinlein

"'They're hurting us. Get me out!' The Government was playing with her brain. They opened up her skull and cut into her brain. The only reason you do that is to lobotomize somebody. They did it over, and over..."
-Dr T, Serentiy

Abbie Bernstein: Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals?
Joss Whedon: The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory.
-Serenity - The Official Visual Companion, page 35

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Monday, August 28, 2006 2:46 PM


John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed wooHOO!!!!!!

How fast will this story disappear down the Memory Hole?


JonBenet suspect won't be charged

By JON SARCHE, Associated Press Writer
August 28, 2006

BOULDER, Colo. - Prosecutors abruptly dropped their case Monday against John Mark Karr in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey, saying DNA tests failed to put him at the crime scene despite his insistence he sexually assaulted and strangled the 6-year-old beauty queen.

Just a week and a half after Karr's arrest in Thailand was seen as a remarkable break in the sensational, decade-old case, prosecutors suggested in court papers that he was just a man with a twisted fascination with JonBenet who confessed to a crime he didn't commit.

"The people would not be able to establish that Mr. Karr committed this crime despite his repeated insistence that he did," District Attorney Mary Lacy said in court papers.

The 41-year-old schoolteacher will be kept in jail in Boulder until he can be sent to Sonoma County, Calif., to face child pornography charges dating to 2001.

Almost makes you think Karr was arrested by Bush and given billions of dollars in free advertising, just to keep Bush Jr's name out of the news for his genocidal crimes in Iraq, Lebanon and NY City on 9/11/2001, which were the previous headlines before Karr appeared. Especially when Israel's diversionary invasion of Lebanon turned out to be another lie by the Media Mafia, when in fact the 2 Israeli soldiers are first arrested inside Lebanon, during Israel's unprovoked first strike invasion, following their prearranged orders from Jr Bush and the Pentagon.

The fact that Cathy O'Brien was never interviewed on Tee Vee News about the JonBenet case proves the Media Mafia is completely untrustworthy and incapable of telling the truth about anything else.

"You can't stop the signal!"
-Mr Universe, Pirate TV

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Monday, August 28, 2006 3:55 PM


Pirate News

Good to see you back again. We've been having some interesting debates I'd like to hear your take on. Have you been lurking?

On the JBR, this is a joke, right?

I think I have a really simple conspiracy theory, it goes lke this: Rich dad had a sick obsession, killed his kid, and then paid people to cover it up.

If you're right and he was in the CIA, then that complicates things. Why not MKUltra? Did the wife get offed as well?

This is the most out there theory yet on JBR, and yet, when I went digging, I think you may have a point. Dad is #1 suspect, without question. His story has holes you can drive a truck through. He has a MIC job which he turned in more profit than possible, which implies underworld deals. Plus, he ran for office in a republican primary came in second. There's a long list of candidates who came in second in GOP congressional primaries who are connected to a group called club for growth, a corrupt "enemy within" in the republican ranks.

If you can connect John Ramsey and Club for Growth, I'd say you have a winner. Write a book and have a best seller. Only, fictionalize it. That's the latest trend in political fiction. Change things slightly and call it fiction. Avoids lawsuits and censorship, which on both sides your opponent would win.


Monday, August 28, 2006 7:34 PM


America loves a winner!

I really hoped that we had seen the last of this shit.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "


Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:42 AM


I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Here are snippets of a webiste I thought was interesting

Opening Remarks

....Scheflin gave a lengthy talk about how therapists can protect themselves against the lawsuits brought by former patients who retract memories of childhood abuse. These lectures were warmly received, especially Scheflin's. Perhaps because several speakers at the conference had been successfully sued by former clients, the therapists in attendance seemed quite fearful that their clients would retract their memories of abuse and sue them for instilling false memories. I felt that the opening remarks were overtly political for what was purported to be a scientific gathering.


Secrets of Mind Control Revealed
Felix's claims paled in comparison to what came next. Mark Phillips claimed to be a former government agent involved in mind-control experiments. He was always vague, never giving any information that could be checked. His companion, Cathy O'Brian, claimed to have survived years of torture and abuse at the hands of her CIA handlers in Operation Monarch (these two seem to be the source of most of the Monarch material). O'Brian maintained she had been tortured in unimaginable ways since the time she was a child, and that her cult handlers successfully created dissociative identity disorder in her, which was cured by Phillips, who also managed to hide her from the CIA. She was so savagely tortured, she said, that her back was a complete mass of scar tissue. Phillips added that he had once tried to count the scars but lost count somewhere in the hundreds. We never saw the scars, photos of the scars, or doctors' reports about the scars. O'Brian stated that she was forced to have sex with a plethora of political figures including George Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, and Gerald Ford (whom she said she knew as "the neighborhood porn king"). She also said she was abused by Hillary Clinton (but not by Bill). Politicians were not the only ones involved -- O'Brian stated that a number of baseball figures were in this satanic/CIA mind-control plot. She told me personally that virtually the entire country music industry is set up by the New World Order to make money. According to O'Brian, most popular country singers are Monarch slaves who had alter-personalities created with good voices for singing. Phillips and O'Brian, along with Bowart and others, claimed that the CIA is currently abusing people through Operation Monarch. Phillips claimed 20 years of experience in genetics and said that the cults would breed slaves selectively to create musical geniuses. To test his vast experience with genetics, I asked him what he thought of the Human Genome Sequencing Project. He had never heard of it. It seems impossible for anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of genetics to be unaware of the biggest project ever in that field. Nevertheless, one author claims that Phillips is "currently deprogramming at least six Monarch slaves" (Springmeier 1995, p. 243).

It seems that a number of people in the audience were accepting of Phillips's and O'Brian's claims, although Perskin (of SITPRCA) informed me that this duo will not be asked back in the future because they failed to produce evidence of Operation Monarch. In a personal conversation with me (July 12, 1995), Scheflin stated that he had been able to obtain internal CIA documents corroborating the existence of mind-control experiments in the 1950s and 1960s. (The documents demonstrate that the CIA conducted unethical experiments to try to create multiple personalities in people for the purpose of creating a super spy who could keep vital information submerged in an alter personality [Thomas 1990].) But, he said, the paper trail completely died out by 1976. According to Scheflin, there are no credible reports of mind-control experiments after 1976 and no credible reports of any nature on Operation Monarch.

Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.


Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:41 AM


The evidence points more to the parents pimping the kid out, rather than abusing her themselves - and the connection between girl-modelling, fashion-pageants and what have you to the freak feeder systems is closer than you'd ever think.

(Warning, kinda gruesomeness, skip now if need be)

The autopsy itself tends to point towards some attempt at autoerotic asphixiation resulting in severe convulsions followed by impact trauma of various sorts - no evidence of electrical shock is present or mentioned within it, nor are the marks mentioned above.

From what seems to have happened, is the parents sold the kids time to a freak, who tried AA and more or less strangled her to death (or death via impact trauma from convulsing) by accident, who then got the hell out of town while mommy and daddy covered it up.

Law enforcement, while having never discussed it, specificed the ramseys computer equipment in the warrant, and Compuserve, the service they were using at the time, was also, at the time, a haven for these kind of deals, muchlike AOL and IRC are now.

Make of it what you will, that's what the evidence points to - someone actually paid money for my analysis of the situation, and provided the public records copies of the related data.. which in truth I'd rather not have known.



Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:53 AM


Hey Frem,

I'm aware of the Ramseys' involvement with other pedophiles but what is it in the evidence that points to someone outside the family actually killing JonBenet? And what in the evidence points away from her father being the killer?


Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.


Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:25 AM


I thought they arrested some guy in Thailand for the murder of JonBonet.

*Edit* Just saw that the case fell apart due to non-matching DNA. And this freak said he was there. What people will do to be famous(infamous).


Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:13 AM



And what in the evidence points away from her father being the killer?

DNA, for one, and his location at the apparent time of death.


Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:31 AM



Originally posted by kaneman:
I thought they arrested some guy in Thailand for the murder of JonBonet.

*Edit* Just saw that the case fell apart due to non-matching DNA. And this freak said he was there. What people will do to be famous(infamous).

Actually I think he did it to get out of Thailand. Think about it, would you rather go to jail in Thailand or the U.S.?


Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:23 AM



I agree. I came to the same conclusion.

I think the place where PN has a point is I did just a cursory sweep of the sane portions of the web, wikipedia,, etc., and it was painfully obvious that the connections of mr. ramsey to the bush supporting crowd were strong. This would open the possibility that the customers would be members of the Bush backing crowd.

Certain people in the Bush company have gotten in trouble for this sort of thing, including two child molestation charges high up in the dept. of Homeland Security.

The scenario of PN's conspiracy theory is this (I don't think it hinges on mind control):

Parents pimp children out to some sicko, and get it on videotape. They then pass that videotape back to the backers of the admin., or someone in teh Delay-level corruption of the neocon sect of the GOP. That gives the neocon controller absolute control over the sicko in question. The sicko can then be appointed to a govt. office, such as Homeland security, and will then be absolutely forced to do what ever the controllers ask him to.

It would explain several things, such as how child molestors got into high govt. positions in the first place.

BTW, this process is very similar in nature to what is done in Skull and Bones and similar groups, and in fact what is done in run of the mill street gangs all across the country, it's just more severe. Instead of making the person commit a simple crime like a robbery (or in the case of some chicago and LA, and probably NY, gangs, a murder,) they select a loser, have him rape a child on video.

Why wouldn't they do this? They desperately want people who will not question their orders, and they clearly have no moral decency whatsoever.

Think about it for a second. Mr. Ramsey is making billion dollar defense deals, he hardly needs to pimp out his six year old to a child rapist for the money.


Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:28 AM



The guy they arrested is a loon. He was arrested in Thailand for some sex crime, and then he confessed to this, and got shipped back here, whereupon he was released, because he's obviously not guilty. It may have been a clever trick to dodge the Thai charges, but I read an interview with the guy's brother, and he said basically that the guy who confessed is completely certifiably insane, and with 24 hours the case would be thrown out, because this loon confessed to everything under the sun. And indeed, that was what happened.


Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:29 AM



Stuff of that nature happens all the time within the back rooms of Gov where the deals are made, and is not confined to any one party.

The "Franklin Incident" or "Franklin Coverup" showed pretty clearly, from reliable sources, that these kind of things do happen, and while there is some small amount of crossover between the kid-pimpers of the "girl modeling" scene and political types, they're mostly seperate things.

So while the freaks in the whole girl-model industry and the freaks in Gov back room parties are both sick bastards, they're seperate communities of sick bastards with little or no contact or cooperation between each other, thus giving lie to any idea of direct conspiracy between these two camps.

That's not to say they shouldn't be dragged out and shot, but they're not really related, other than in what they do.

The Gov factions tend to use .. not to sound callous, but for lack of a better word.. "disposable" assets for such things, versus the "re-usable, but with diminishing returns" product of the child-model scene.

I would also advise extreme caution and discretion should you even perform as much as a cursory investigation of your own, there's a lot of slimy things under those rocks, and you don't wanna be kicking them over willy-nilly.

It could be bad for your health.



Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:05 PM



Stuff of that nature happens all the time within the back rooms of Gov where the deals are made, and is not confined to any one party.

You're preaching to the choir.

Anyway, I wasn't refering to the govt. prostitution rings. I was talking about the peg. The peg is what I call the crime that you make someone commit so that they will have to do what you say from then on to prevent the crime from comming out. It's a very common tactic in inner city gangs, as it was with the mafia. Skull and Bones uses a peg.

Raping a child could be a massive peg for political appointees to homeland security etc., which would explain three things:
1. The absolute yesmen who never defy the chief.
2. The number of childmolestors in high positions.
3. The dead six year old girls.


Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:58 PM


Yeah, I know how that works, I just felt there was some ambiguity that needed to be cleared up on some things.

You have some very distinct, yet seperate, camps.

The girl-model and pageant scene.
Big Gov and corporations.
High level tech sector execs.

Just examples, but specific to these three in particular is that there's virtually no crossover, communication, or cooperation between them - while each one might be properly considered a conspiracy in an of itself, they're seperate conspiracies, not one all-encompassing one.

Just wanted that point to come up crystal clear is all.

And we've mostly heard it referred to as "The hook" rather than "The peg", but sure, it's the same thing - and it's been going on at the high money and power end of various communities for quite a while... near unlimited power and money do some very strange things to people, especially sociopathic* people in the first place.

The movie 8mm does a very good job of exploring that phenomenae.


*PS - You ever wonder why I hate our society, there it is in a nutshell, it rewards and encourages the most vile sociopathy with fame fortune and success, and penalizes decency and altruism with mockery, poverty and defeat.

That makes the social system and social "Evil",
a word I do not use lightly.


Thursday, August 31, 2006 6:06 PM



Actually, those three things in this case have a very strong connection. John Ramsey, who is connected to all three. I certain wasn't drawing a master conspiracy. I was saying this guy, who seems to have been a dealmaker for Bush backers in the military industrial complex, could have supplied the bait for your 'hook' (usually when someone says the hook i think about fiction writing, the strange twist that keeps a reader going in the first couple of pages.) This might help explain how two child molestors got into high positions of the homeland security dept. Just a theory, but it's not a terrible one.

And yeah, I agree, I don't think that this "created child molestors" in the sense of "it made child molestors out of wannabe child molestors by supplying the child." But it gave them power. It doesn't matter if someone has talent if all you want is a yes man. You can get a lot of leaders with weird sexual hangups.

For some reason Bill Clinton keeps coming to mind.


Monday, September 4, 2006 3:22 PM


John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed wooHOO!!!!!!




VIDEO DOWNLOADS - "On my birthday I received a package with the following pictures inside. The first photo is of my son Johnny, shortly after he was kidnapped on Sept. 5th, 1982. He was still wearing the clothing he had on the day he was taken. He is bound and gagged. The second photo is three boys all bound gagged. The boy on the far right is my son, Johnny. We do not have the identity of the other two boys. We are currently working with the police and the National Center for Missing Children in hopes of learning the identity of the other two boys. There are two families who would probably like to have news of their children. If anyone viewing the second photo knows who these boys are, please contact me." -NOREEN GOSCH, AUGUST 2006


These photos look like the photos of JonBenet Ramsey's dead body in her CIA parent's house:

Then John Ramsey campaigned for US Congress, to join all the other pedophile slave traders.

Cathy O'Brien and her lobotomized daughter Kelly were also composited into River's character, after being sold to the pedophiles in US Congress and the Bush Sr and Billary Clinton (Blythe Rockefeller) White House.

Even Scifi's Battlestar Galactica had a scene where pedophile sex slave traders were shown running the fleet, and even the military was afraid of them. Sounds like the scriptwriters were plagerizing the O'Brien family.

You can see video of Cathy O'Brien's Satanic vagina, during her OB exam for GNN TV:

The Tennesse legislature passed HR1462 and S902, named for her daughter Kelly, who was still kidnapped by The State and forced by Judge Shookhoff's court order to participate in "Satanic exorcisms" (an oxymoron) to create more dissociative identities and amnesia for plausible deniability.


"Laws do not apply in this case for reasons of National Security."
-Judge Shookhoff, State of Tennessee versus Kelly O'Brien, Access Denied for Reasons of National Security, page 244

"National Security was invoked in this case. All court records were sealed."
-Scott Roseburg, assistant district attorney candidate for juvenile judge, GNN TV, "The Most Dangerous Game", Access Denied for Reasons of National Security, page 389

We're in the middle of a Civil War, and Tee Vee is the main battleground for Winning Hearts And Minds to overthrow USA for the NWO's global Alliance. Notice that Mal was fighting a Civil War. The current owners of FF, Bush Gang's Carlyle Group (aka Blue Sun), are the Real World monsters that Joss warned you about.

For those who hope that cops and coroners are 100% trustworthy to determine cause of death, beware to tale of Dr Pedigo MD, police firearms trainer for Knoxville Police Dept, and medical examiner for Knox County. In his full-time teaching job at University of Tennessee Medical Center (owned by Canada), Dr Pedigo kidnapped and raped young male interns. He invited them to his home via pretext, drugged them, stripped them, raped them and photographed them. It wasn't until Tennessee Bureau of Invistigation raided his home for hiding the murder gun in a copkilling by a towtrucker, and shooting Dr Pedigo 6 times for resiting arrest, that police found his stash of pedophile rape photos. Pedigo had over 100 guns stolen from storage of police confiscations. Would YOU trust this guy to determine cause of death perped by a high-ranking pedophile?

Note that when radio talk show host William Cooper was gunned down by Police State Death Squad in Egar, Arizona, it was the trespassing county coroner who made the initial false complaint against Cooper, that led to the midnight summary execution by silenced machine guns.

In the CIA's Iran-Contra Arkansides, Dr Malik followed the illegal orders from Governor Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller and President George Bush Sr. Over a dozen murders were classified as "suicides", including the dismemberment of children who stumbled upon CIA cocaine drops at Mena Airport.

My point being, the coroner in the JonBenet case must follow unlawful orders, or get carved up on his own slab.

Note that convicted pedophiles run the so-called "False Memory Syndrome Foundation", and publish books on how to rape children.

"'They're hurting us. Get me out!' The Government was playing with her brain. They opened up her skull and cut into her brain. The only reason you do that is to lobotomize somebody. They did it over, and over..."
-Dr Tam, Firefly

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Does that seem right to you?


Tuesday, September 5, 2006 5:10 PM


Hi pirateNews

The reason why I haven't been on the board in awhile is because I was just disgusted, I had to put down that book Trance Formation America several times, it has been very hard for me to read it..and to get through it as bad as the gunderson report was..this is even worse

its like everything you ever thought or truly believed is a lie, and that is why its so hard to read this book. Words just cannot describe the horror...

you know I've been thinking that the Ramsey case seems eriely simular to Cathy Obrien


...Almost makes you think Karr was arrested by Bush and given billions of dollars in free advertising, just to keep Bush Jr's name out of the news for his genocidal crimes in Iraq, Lebanon and NY City on 9/11/2001, which were the previous headlines before Karr appeared. Especially when Israel's diversionary invasion of Lebanon turned out to be another lie by the Media Mafia, when in fact the 2 Israeli soldiers are first arrested inside Lebanon, during Israel's unprovoked first strike invasion, following their prearranged orders from Jr Bush and the Pentagon

you know what is really sad, they did a pole and 64% of people polled still believe he did it, I never believed he did sad is that!!!






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