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No More Identity Politics

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Tuesday, April 22, 2025 3:31 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It wasn't me that came up with the "lefty shill site", which I assumed was typical of conservative thinking. Bad assumption. I've been told this was meant to make former slaves citizens, which makes sense seeing as it was ratified in 1868. But just wondering ... the USA was rapidly expanding westward. Was that intended to make "natives" citizens as well?

Anyway, I'm pretty agnostic on the topic myself bc I haven't thought very much abiut it, but I'd certainly like "anchor babies" to be illegal.

*****

From my work in a regulatory agency, I know that in order to properly interpret a regulation (law, amendment) you sometimes have to dig into rule development notes (discusions, letters, other records etc) and on occasion nothing will do but to talk to the original author(s). Would be nice if we could buttonhole them in this case.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

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Their stated Mission: ... immigrant integration.

Good clue right there.



Those 3 Amendments were specifiuc to the purpose of Emancipated slaves.

Mark always goes into the intents and writings of the authors, when possible. You should enjoy his explanation.

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Tuesday, April 22, 2025 4:02 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I didn't even notice.

*****

Looked up Levin. I hope SCOTUS thinks as he does.

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Tuesday, April 22, 2025 9:27 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I believe they will.

But for JSF to say that it hasn't been made the law at some point is just stupid.

That is exactly what has been done over time. Especially at the state level in various states. That currently IS the law, like it or not.

It's just never gotten any proper challenges from either side before now.

Hopefully it finally does and we end the anchor-baby plague once and for all.

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Tuesday, April 22, 2025 12:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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there are those walking among us who are not required to obey U.S. laws.
Diplomatic immunity comes to mind. It's not enuf to be a citizen of another country visiting or living in the USA to be exempt from our laws, but diplomatic immunity will do. IDK if (some? all?) tribal reservations - which are their own nations - are subject to USA law.



We know we live in a 2-tiered justice system. I just found it cute that they don't make any attempt to hide it anymore.

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Now, IDK if "diplomatic immunity" was a "thing" back then when that was written, so I don't know if that's what is being referred to.


Well, right.... right? Who knows? Nobody knows. How many are there? How did they get this status? Why do they have this status? Are they citizens? If not, what is their business here and how long will they be staying? Are there any living on my block?

All questions that you'll never have answers to because nobody with more than 5,000 twitter followers is ever going to ask and Elon Musk isn't going to re-tweet it. It should go without saying that the media will never ask this question.

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If your quote is correct, then everyone born in the USA is automatically a citizen (except children of foreign diplomats who apparently inherit their parents' citizenship) and "anchor babies" are legal.


Oh... Trust me. I have no opinions on how true or untrue this quote is. It's an extremely watered down interpretation for normies of what might be thousands of pages of legalese.

Even if the agency didn't have a bias either way and was planted firmly in the realm of reality, I think that's a really tall order.

I wouldn't go making any assumptions based off of that, and even if they state that specifically somewhere in the document, I'd want to see the actual proof or at least look into other people's interpretation of it.

Even if there is a string of legal cases that set a precedent for them to come up with this assessment, and even if their assessment was 100% correct as the laws stand today, these are all very low-level to mid-level court cases that have yet to make it up the chain. Things may look very different on this issue in 4 years with the speed at which things are playing out right now.

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More 2-tiered justice:

Tesla vandal not likely to face criminal charges, Hennepin County Attorney's Office says

https://www.fox9.com/news/hennepin-county-attorney-wont-criminally-cha
rge-tesla-vandal


That's Walz's state employee.

He's deeply remorseful over his actions though, so it's all okay.

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Tuesday, April 29, 2025 2:44 PM

THG


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I didn't even notice.

*****

Looked up Levin. I hope SCOTUS thinks as he does.






What's this, comrade this is my thread. You said nobody ever posts in them. And you're chatting with Jack. Oh **** and there's JEWELSTAITEFAN. What is he doing in one of my threads? Jerk.

T


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Tuesday, April 29, 2025 3:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I didn't even notice.

*****

Looked up Levin. I hope SCOTUS thinks as he does.






What's this, comrade this is my thread. You said nobody ever posts in them. And you're chatting with Jack. Oh **** and there's JEWELSTAITEFAN. What is he doing in one of my threads? Jerk.

T




We just come here to see what dumb shit you post and to laugh at you and your dead party.



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Thursday, May 1, 2025 10:12 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I didn't even notice.

*****

Looked up Levin. I hope SCOTUS thinks as he does.






What's this, comrade this is my thread. You said nobody ever posts in them. And you're chatting with Jack. Oh **** and there's JEWELSTAITEFAN. What is he doing in one of my threads? Jerk.

T




We just come here to see what dumb shit you post and to laugh at you and your dead party.








Ah, I'm hurt Gilligan.

T


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Thursday, May 1, 2025 1:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Your feelings are inconsequential.

Your party is dead.

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Wednesday, May 7, 2025 8:50 PM

THG


Yup...

T


James Carville: Time for Ilhan Omar to leave the Democrats





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Wednesday, May 7, 2025 9:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey! Would you look at that....

Something all 3 of us can agree on.



Good luck buddy. She's a front-runner for taking over your shattered party while you're busy worrying about what Trump is doing every day.

What are you going to do then?

Are you going to sit back and watch David Hogg put 20 more of her in Congress in the mid-term primaries?


I think you need to stop worrying about what Trump is doing and start focusing on your party like I keep telling you to otherwise you really will be completely politically homeless by the mid-terms.

And I'll tell you from experience... That ain't fun.

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Monday, May 12, 2025 6:37 PM

THG


Ben, you said to vote for Trump even though his family took 2 billion dollars from these same people during Trumps first term.

Hey Ben, you voted for him so fuck you. I'm glad you got what you voted for. The harshest critics of Trump were the most correct. You know that now.

T


Trump lost Ben Shapiro?!






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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 1:06 PM

THG


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Tim Miller UNLOADS on Biden’s Inner Circle


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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 1:41 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It wasn't me that came up with the "lefty shill site", which I assumed was typical of conservative thinking. Bad assumption. I've been told this was meant to make former slaves citizens, which makes sense seeing as it was ratified in 1868. But just wondering ... the USA was rapidly expanding westward. Was that intended to make "natives" citizens as well?

Anyway, I'm pretty agnostic on the topic myself bc I haven't thought very much abiut it, but I'd certainly like "anchor babies" to be illegal.

*****

From my work in a regulatory agency, I know that in order to properly interpret a regulation (law, amendment) you sometimes have to dig into rule development notes (discusions, letters, other records etc) and on occasion nothing will do but to talk to the original author(s). Would be nice if we could buttonhole them in this case.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA


Their stated Mission: ... immigrant integration.

Good clue right there.



Those 3 Amendments were specifiuc to the purpose of Emancipated slaves.

Mark always goes into the intents and writings of the authors, when possible. You should enjoy his explanation.



I did a little looking up on this for curiosities sake.

1866 amendment was meant for slaves to have citizenship.

Native Americans of all stripes didn't get this right until 1924. It was signed into law by Calvin Coolidge.

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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 2:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Tim Miller UNLOADS on Biden’s Inner Circle



That's right. Be a good little soldier and follow your Media Masters who spent 4 years covering up for the Biden* administration in shitting all over Biden* 5 years later than you should have.

You are so fucking stupid.

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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 4:52 PM

THG


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James Carville: Watch the polling and get prepared






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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 6:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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James Carville: Watch the polling and get prepared





I remember when James told you that Harris was going to win easily.

I'm sure he'll get this one right though. No doubt.

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Thursday, May 29, 2025 2:07 PM

THG


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Corey Booker was right to confirm Kushner, and it sucks because Trump chose a filthy ambassador.






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Thursday, May 29, 2025 8:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nobody cares what you're fake ass token cowboy has to say, idiot.

Would you like me to look into this paid actor for you and find out who he is and where he's getting his funding from?

Keep posting videos from this faggot and I will.



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Thursday, June 5, 2025 3:25 PM

THG


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Sen. Booker (D-NJ): I Am Sick and Tired of this Kind of Heated Partisan Rhetoric





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Thursday, June 5, 2025 4:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Sen. Booker (D-NJ): I Am Sick and Tired of this Kind of Heated Partisan Rhetoric



Oh... I bet you are now. CNN's latest poll says that Democratic Party support is now below 20%.

Fuck you, Cory. You're finished. There is nothing you can do to save your job in that dead party.

Your party is dead, and you were part of the problem.

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Thursday, June 12, 2025 9:24 AM

THG


MAGA complains about all things degenerate. The problem they have is, it is they who are the degenerates they complain about.

T


Trump, Epstein & Putin

James Carville reveals shocking claims about Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Wolfe's statements raise questions about Trump's past interactions with Epstein and potential implications for national security. James emphasizes the importance of these revelations and calls on citizens to engage with the information and consider its broader impact.






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Tuesday, July 15, 2025 12:17 PM

THG


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Tuesday, July 15, 2025 2:43 PM

THG


Major Trump 'lie is beginning to unravel': Nobel-winning economist

A Nobel Prize-winning economist believes Americans are souring on the Trump administration's draconian immigration policies because they finally realize "they've been lied to" about the inherent "criminality" of people fleeing oppression and looking for steady work inside the United States.

In a new Substack article, Paul Krugman cited a recent Gallup poll showing that "When asked if immigration is generally a good thing or bad thing for the country, a record-high 79% of U.S. adults call it a good thing; a record-low 17% see it as a bad thing."

In addition, "30% of Americans want immigration decreased, down from 55% a year ago," with more Americans rejecting Trump's border wall and mass deportation policies.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/major-trump-lie-is-beginning-t
o-unravel-nobel-winning-economist/ar-AA1IALQt




Oh my goodness, Golly Gee Willikers. They figured out Trump lied to them.

T


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Thursday, August 21, 2025 5:19 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

You've been saying this for 3 months every day and yet it never materializes.



You don't have a political party, Ted. There is no opposition to Trump.

--



Texas fires starting shot in redistricting war

The Texas state House passed a new congressional map Wednesday to boost the number of GOP-held seats in Congress, paving the way for final passage this week and teeing up a national redistricting war.

https://thehill.com/newsletters/morning-report/5462962-texas-redistric
ting-gop-map-passed
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Then why are the republicans so scared?

T


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Thursday, August 21, 2025 7:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Then why are the republicans so scared?



Scared of what?

Between illegals being kicked off the census numbers, forcing states to clean their voter rolls every year, SCOTUS set to eliminate racial gerrymandering by June of next year and the fact that you don't have any more room to gerrymander anything even if you wanted to or could still get away with it, you're going to lose around 30 seats in the house in 2026. Probably even more after Trump eliminates mail-in fraud voting. Definitely more if we make Voter I.D. requirements the law of the land.

You would know all of this if you ever got your head out of your ass and echo chamber for 5 seconds. But alas, you're just going to be psychologically destroyed in November of 2026 when you get blindsided by the results because you choose to watch liars that tell you what you want to hear everyday in lieu of trying to use that rotted-out, atrophied thing between your ears that once resembled a human brain.

Tick Tock



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Friday, August 22, 2025 7:42 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Identity, there will be more divide. Perhaps a plan to just accelerated all that politics in a post 911 world.

The 'identity' battle will stay, this game is this near endless broadcast of madness...push media madness and divide!
Divide and Erase and another plan have people to start forgetting their own history, erasing it and replacing it with new nonsense. The USA was born out of rebellion, the England Empire, British North America "No taxation without representation", then it was at war with the islamics before the USA was even born, fighting Ottoman Turks, the Pirates of Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli and Morocco...Jefferson even studied them, told how the ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Mohammedan Prophet, that it was written in their Quran book Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found...many of the founding fathers would have seen islam as 'Barbaric' or Satanic maybe but now it seems they give the islamist cult 'rights'

Empire of Britain gone? now get hit by one stealth tax after another

Endless Wars continued expansionism as Empires have done, Greece, Rome but this is not conquest and occupation old school style, it is often more sophisticated with layers of puppets and 'proxy wars'

What other villains has the USA fought?
maybe the Empire of 'Spain' was the bad guy for a while, the Mexican, those islands, Spain stumbles as Napoleon invades, the Peninsular War fought in the Iberian Peninsula leaving colonies chaotic and vulnerable...an opportunity to grab land and colonies?

In WW2 a war where we finally see 'EVIL' a 'just' and righteous war, clear bad guys but they wanted to stay out and remain isolationist as long as possible? We have bad people, the Japanese massacres the German Nazi Crimes, the Italian Fascist is defeated, Germany and Japan beaten.

the rise of Ruskie the Commie Union

After WW2 the USA got its money back 'Nation Building' but then somehow it forgot how to build nations...or maybe that was a cultural thing.
Despite all the time and blood and cash and sweat and treasures throw into Afghanistan it still continues as an islamic horror

Greed Spending
Tell the public to enjoy the entertainment circus, take those credit cards and spend like crazy....the financial Empire will be around forever.

Nativism from the start of it all, that had to be crushed
the story is the USA will remain 'Open' to the invasion, the government the new globalist authority would have otherwise been defeated by these people with bows and arrows wearing feathers in their hair...a new USA must open its borders to a new world
You think now that Trump is there 'Ilhan Omar' will be sent back to Somalia, maybe things got a little close after 911 that whole 'Ban islam' meme thing ? However its not happen the border will be open, its just somewhat selective, you think Trump will save it all, he's going to end all those Mexican-American groups that have porous shifting identity like 'Hispanic' pride think those dual citizen Jewish Warmongers will be removed? You think he's going to remove every Pakistani Arab Horn of Africa person in some suspicious Mosque, Europe Asia linked Marxist and every dumb Hindi Indian Sikh that was involved in an accident or a scam?
its not happening
Borders will remain open
the Hispanics are having more kids
Open Borders are here to stay!
in this regard a country like Japan for example is far more nationalist, racist, prideful or closed than the USA...it has a true border policy.
Dual Citizens will remain!

Brain washing and Guilt
The Civil Wars, the poor Jewish Israel is 'special' no state for the homosexual or the Gypsy Romani?
the Wheat Belt, the Sun Belt...when other nations do the food or cars cheaps just blame the World and Tariff the world....and btw Have you heard of the Mormon LDS Mafia and the Jell-O Belt?
add some tariff stealth tax and send some more carpetbagger and global banker to suck wealth from the 'Rust Belt'
Why dont you support Corporate Bailouts and Free Money to Bill Gates, Sergey Brin, Phil Knight, the Walmarts, the Hollyweird studios, the Koch family, and Bezos types...are you some type of COMMUNIST?
you don't support bailouts for bankers, the types like Rockefeller, duPonts, the foreign Astor royals
Bush junior and Obama said the banks will collapse, why dont you support the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act
ARE YOU A COMMIE?



Spend money like crazy, debts, deficits, more debts, just keep destroying the US Dollar and claim you will spend your way out of this

Be involved in forever wars in the Middle East sandbox, you might have some other projects going on Latin America, some political thing Asia. Maybe try Eastern Europe some other Euro Russia political thing or go to 'Mars' but the British the USA system have been advocates of Israeli-first racism the madness of Jew theocracy and Zionism...they will back Israel and its wars while the 'Left' and Globalists which were often backed by Marxist Jews say the West must open its borders to 'The World'...the USA will continue throwing more guns and money at this problem, give more cash to Israel and missiles and bombs. Israel is more important to Ukraine to the Evangelical Doomsday types. Eschatology the branch of Apocalypse stories, the final days, end times nonsense dealing with tend times prophecies and the events of the last days and 'Zombies' walking the Earth. People were convinced to feel sorry not for the Homosexual or the Roma Gypsy after WW2 but to feel sorry for the Jewish and the Zionist movement, the plan was to kick Arabs off the land where this 'Israel' idea encountered the demographic problem posed by the presence of the local Arab population, which was predominantly non-Jewish.

Who knew Epstein?
Just cover it all up, blame the other team, Democrat vs Republican, Right vs Left and the Liberal vs Conservative...
Just throw mud! they will continue try to blame the other side in this stupid identity politics game

Don't focus on the stuff that UNITES Americans, that name United States...instead focus on the most divisive topics so the Two Big Parties can be in an endless political war with each other...ready for the next civil war

Keep funding foreign zones the Endless Wars feed the military machine because some other boogeyman is coming, ok maybe not the Native guys with feathers Injuns, but maybe somewhere overseas thats were foreign comes from, the British, the Mexicans or Hawaii lets grab some land and get a bigger border, the Germans and Japanese, the Russians Commies USSR is coming...ColdWar over? its the islamo 'Terrorists' a 'War on Terror'...oh look its the Ruskies again, are we not finished with 'Yemen' and the War on Terror? maybe its Venezuela and Mexico, bomb Iran or maybe look at Mexico...who says you cant fund a military industrial complex on multiple fronts

How dare you not support the latest wars!


Newspapers and Tv and internet mindfucks people into Identity Politics and its always been here.

Newly arrived European Empires, they had the Church on their side the Colonialist mindset and wars involving some fake John Wayne story and killing the Injuns, the savage red skins, this was land to be taken and colonized what were they were they mixing with Eskimos, mix breeding with the Hispanics, there were Native First peoples Powhatan, Mahocks, Nahyssans, Chowanocs, Pequot Tribe an absolute slaughter of people and cultural destruction. It is rare I listen to USA or the Spanish or Britain or France saying how they must save some group of people when historically the Empires have wiped out so many people and yes some of it was 'infected blankets' accidental or deliberate. Sitting Bull it changes slowly a symbol of resistance against the US government 1890 there was still some of that fight spirit Russell Means called the most famous American Indian since Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse

Slavery was wrong but That divide is here to stay ethnicity/race, I don't know if the political leftist voter mindset of Black Woman can ever be fixed...while not everyone is the same not every Russian is part of the 'Putin Mob' people are different but I believe people can be manipulated as a group! on average the mob will average itself out to something crazy. Not all Black Women are the same but the Black Mama with Ghetto attitudes they will probably always have that Sassy Black Mama Queen of Wakanda attitude, voting radical leftists. I don't know if there is any saving that politics. The USA will be making apologies for the Civil War forever. For a long while I never really understood the whole Southern Pride thing, I thought it strange the 'F--- You' to the North in Southern culture, the Georgia State flag 1956–2001 very Confederate looking, Arkansas, Texas, Virginia flags, Mississippi State flag 1894–2020 but you look into the history of anyone there is both good and bad. Some Blacks actually fought for the South with Whites it was rare but it happened and conditions in the free cities were not always the best, then you had the fact that power had shifted and the North was a leader in industry and this guy Robert E. Lee comes along and some how while out gunned and out matched he starts winning battles and even today has a reputation as a one of the most skilled tacticians produced by the wars on Earth.


Watch the old Christian expansionist culture die and watch it get replaced by weird godless Atheism that pushes for open borders, those with religion denomination pray for the Israeli warmonger perverts. Within the system morals decay, attack kids gender sexual orientation push the obscene addictions booze drugs gambling, always divide by political affiliation so its ready for the next Civil War.

Time to get in on that European Colonial Action in other parts of the world, the Korea Joseon dynasty, the Egyptian to protect US interests although definitions of war stat to change and treatment of prisoners, certain standards begin to emerge. Latin America sees US influence, Mexico has one side supported vs another Mexican, the Panama crisis of 1885, Surrender of the Hawaiian Kingdom, a sign of troubles to come the new kids on the block the Germanic the Mataafans and German Empire and battles with no conclusion or no decisive result, the USA is having trouble making Puerto Rico an English speaker culture, for some reason Spanish is very strong as a culture, Iran linked Contra War continue bringing Narco state problems.
From Europe Asia a rise of the 'Bolshevik' mindset which spreads like political fire although the USSR has collapsed the groups still exist, strong Leftwing political groups remain.
Days of demanding Cowboys shoot all those Indians with feathers in the hair are over...people dont really do total war anymore...although what Israel does in Palestine starts to look a little like Hiroshima or the Firebombing of Dresden.
Covert interventionism happens post WW2, during the ColdWar the USA would provide support for countries resisting communism, pick one team give them lots of weapons, even get involved in Vietnam and such places marking a significant shift in American international relations...it might have led to the rise of the Taliban Al-Qaeda and others after the Russians lost in Afghanistan.
guys like Kissinger and Epstein had lots of power behind the scenes

The lasting impacts of Drugs, Latin America and Iran?
what was Irangate about, Iran–Contra affair people are still trying to make sense of that one but there was a lot of strange money moving, drugs and arms dealers and 'Dancing Hare' formerly Lady Ghislaine and Lady Mona K a superyacht built by Amels in 1986. Built for Emad Khashoggi, it was then purchased, also in 1986, by Robert Maxwell, who died by drowning in 1991 while cruising on the yacht off the Canary Islands. Trump started to have a thing for boats, Trump went on the tv broadcasts and magazines and says you have to see the interior. That is where arms smuggler guy Khashoggi lavished money with utter abandon. Trump a property guy points out, for example, the walls of the cabins covered in chamois leather and bird’s eye maple. Trump liked his pomp and wealth Bathrooms are done not in marble but in onyx – and not just any onyx either, but onyx hand-carved by the finest craftsmen in Italy. Donald Trump made 'a deal' bought Trump Princess, he says, “because I was buying a great piece of art at a ridiculously low price”. That other boat with dead people It was then owned by an Arabian businessman, the yacht was purchased by an Arabian businessman, who sold her in 2017 to Anna Murdoch, at one time the wife of Rupert Murdoch, and the Maxwell pedo trafficker linked to both Trump and the Clintons.

With politics this dirty and murky why would anyone support a Team A or Team B when its all just a shitshow

but cheer some team, the Afghans shooting missiles at the Soviet Ruskies, building new islamic terror cells to resit 'Commies'

an event that would build terror cells and come back to haunt the USA

More young Americans are going more British or French or Isolationist, they favour supporting some kind of peace with Palestinians, getting away from violence rather than throwing Billions and Billions of Dollars and giving Billions in weaponry to the Israelis ...

its changing for a while most Americans back Israel but more and more sympathize with Palestinian .

Zionist nutjob Mark Levin has been having a melt down the past few days

he keeps screeching at the USA that he wants the Palestinians exterminated Hitler style and the USA should be doing the bomb dropping not just Israelis doing that murder and war and bombing

Its Rotten to the Core!
the system has been corrupted for years, maybe it was always corrupt a lot of those founding fathers linked to those weirdo Masonry Lodges and the third party in the USA was Anti-Mason


and the 28 pages? don't even mention the Saudi links to 911

a system utterly corrupted

the Chinese are building everything but you are not supposed to like China

India is maybe a friend but not the USA gets scammed, BRICS is there so the USA goes back to supporting Pakistan who was hiding binLaden.

and for some reason after defeating ISIS and al-Qaeda in Syria
somehow al-Qaeda and ISIS are back in Syria?
Reagan even had meeting with Afghan terrorist leaders in the Oval Office in 1983
The USA unsure what to do with 'Kurdistan' some say it could have been a buffer, the Turkish are less friendly, they say Qatar, Dubai, UAE was moving money to terrorists.
US military intervention in Niger 2013–2024 not really working and Africa is a chaotic mess, Russian Mercs now arrive.
a continued War on Terror bombing in Yemen from 2002–present
Iranians are bad, but cheer for Monarchy support new guy 'The Shah' and in Syria Ongoing US Intervention against jihadists

and why try diplomacy with hotheads all over the world?
You still have money and time to park some Troops and Warships off the coast of Venezuela?
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Texas fires starting shot in redistricting war



Gerrymandering has been going on a long while before this event


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What a joke. Can't even pretend to protest.



Are you pretending to be a better actor? all you ever do is Bash the USA unless its an Israeli First Dual Citizen Zionist

whenever asked you try slip away, then you shape-shift you are Royal Le Canada person...or you try to be a Us citizen a born and bred American again, then you let something about Israelis and Jews slip...then you say you're Canada

yeah call the others Leftwing Commies or whatever but dont mention the Jewish involvement in European Communist movements that spread to North America

and then cheering the bombing of the USS Liberty

You really are one sneaky shifty fuckwit


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Hey! Would you look at that....

Something all 3 of us can agree on.



and get rid of dual citizens

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On June 4, an executive at the Anti-Defamation League, which was founded with a mission to defend the Jewish people and “to secure justice and fair treatment to all,” walked into a room on the fourth floor of the Eisenhower building across the street from the White House. They were there to attend a meeting between Jewish groups and members of the Trump administration. Just a few years before, in the waning days of Trump’s first term, the ADL’s presence at such a gathering would have been inconceivable.

Officials included the Justice Department’s civil-rights chief, Harmeet Dhillon, who had been sparring with the ADL since she was a student at Dartmouth in the 1980s; Trump’s top spiritual adviser, Paula White-Cain, whom the ADL had once criticized for participating in what it called a “fake Jewish ritual” (a bogus rabbi had wrapped her body in a Torah scroll); and National Security Council counterterrorism director Sebastian Gorka, whom the ADL had previously said was linked to “openly racist and antisemitic hate groups.”

The meeting, which included representatives of the American Jewish Committee, the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, AIPAC, and others, had been convened to discuss the administration’s next steps in responding to an outpouring of antisemitism. The past two weeks had seen two of the most heinous antisemitic crimes on American soil in decades. On May 21, a young couple, Sarah Milgrim and Yaron Lischinsky, two Israeli Embassy staff members, were murdered outside the Capital Jewish Museum in Washington, D.C., shot by a man who reportedly chose them at random and shouted “Free Palestine” during his arrest. On June 1, in Boulder, Colorado, a group of mostly elderly Jews demonstrating in support of the hostages taken by Hamas on October 7 were attacked by a man using a makeshift flamethrower and Molotov cocktails. One of the 13 injured was a Holocaust survivor; another, 82-year-old Karen Diamond, later died of her injuries.

Following the attacks, ADL national director and chief executive officer Jonathan Greenblatt traveled to Boulder and made a series of speeches and media appearances. “I’m angry,” Greenblatt said over and over again. He blamed pro-Palestine activists and social-media influencers for contributing to an environment that radicalized the assailants. On Fox News, visibly agitated, he called out Guy Christensen — a teenage TikTok influencer who had urged “support” for Milgrim’s and Lischinsky’s murderer — and the Twitch personality Hasan Piker, who had not but who said he would continue to speak out against Israel’s “livestreamed child holocaust.” Greenblatt described both as “promoters of hate” alongside the leaders of colleges and universities, who he said had allowed antisemitic attitudes to fester. He referred to a recent commencement address at MIT in which the senior-class president had condemned the school’s cooperation with “the genocidal Israeli military,” declaring that such talk spreads “blood libels” and “creates the conditions” for violence. “We’ve got to stop it once and for all,” Greenblatt said. “I hope the Trump administration will do just that.”

Greenblatt, 54, a former Clinton- and Obama-administration official, was in his tenth year at the helm of the ADL, and he had spent much of his tenure directly opposing Trump. In March 2016, when Trump was competing to become the Republican nominee for president, Greenblatt announced he was redirecting the mogul’s previous donations to anti-bias efforts, citing Trump’s “penchant to slander minorities, slur refugees, dismiss First Amendment protections, and cheer on violence.” In the following years, Greenblatt publicly blamed the president for helping to create the environment that led to the deadly Charlottesville neo-Nazi rally and the massacre at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, where 11 people were killed. In 2019, the ADL took to the courts to fight what it called the “widespread violation of immigrants’ fundamental rights” under Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, and in 2021, following the January 6 attack on the Capitol, Greenblatt became the first head of a major Jewish organization to call for the president to be removed from office.

But all that felt long ago now. For the past several years, and especially since the October 7 attack, Greenblatt and the ADL had insisted that surging antisemitic activity — thousands of violent incidents per year in the U.S. — was being driven largely by the political left. Greenblatt had emerged as a spokesperson for a large swath of American Jews alienated from their traditional liberal allies. For decades, the ADL argued that anti-Zionism could lead to antisemitism, but recently, the group had adopted the position Greenblatt more or less aired on Fox: that opposition to the Jewish state was the same thing as antisemitism, full stop. That tens of thousands of Jews were active in the pro-Palestine movement was not just put aside — it was taken as evidence that they were antisemites, too. Later, at the end of July, when the starvation of Palestinians in Gaza would finally come to the fore of the world’s attention and many long-standing supporters of Israel would call on the government to ease its grip on the territory, Greenblatt would maintain, in the words of a post on X, that “Hamas alone has power to end this tragedy.”

It’s unclear if Greenblatt’s antipathy toward Trump faded as the ADL’s perspective on the left shifted. But he unquestionably saw and took common ground with elements of the MAGA right. In March, when the Trump administration pulled $400 million in grants and contracts from Columbia University, Greenblatt tweeted, “We at ADL appreciate the Trump Administration’s efforts to counter campus antisemitism.” A few days later, when ICE agents began snatching pro-Palestine activists from their apartment buildings and off the streets, the ADL hailed the administration for its “broad, bold set of efforts.”

Inside the ADL, the change has been deeply controversial. Over the past six months, I spoke with more than 40 current and former staffers, donors, board members, interlocutors in government, and other allies. Seventeen of these people, all of whom were either previously employed by or closely affiliated with the organization, have chosen to quit or part ways with it in recent years. Critics say that rather than “calling balls and strikes” regarding what is and isn’t hate, to use a favored Greenblatt phrase, Greenblatt has seemed to bend the rules for those in power. When Elon Musk threw up a pair of straight-arm salutes on Inauguration Day — which many ADL insiders, including Greenblatt’s predecessor, Abe Foxman, believed to be a sieg heil — the organization’s official X account posted in Musk’s defense, calling the action an “awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute” and asked for a “bit of grace” for the billionaire. Confused ADL employees blew up the organization’s Slack channels. According to a source close to the ADL, Musk’s perceived support of the Jewish state factored heavily in the decision. As the source put it: “We heard numerous very positive and glowing things, publicly and privately, about what he’s done in Israel.” To this source, this was evidence that Musk had no “antisemitic tendencies.” In recent weeks, Grok, X’s generative AI chatbot, began disparaging Jewish-sounding surnames and proclaimed itself to be “Mecha Hitler.” (In a post on X, the ADL called the bot’s behavior “irresponsible, dangerous, and antisemitic.”)

Several liberal longtime donors to the ADL told me they have stopped giving to the group. Some said they would not be involved as long as Greenblatt remained in his position. After the Musk incident, Walter Jospin, a Georgia attorney whose family has donated around $1 million over the years, wrote to the ADL’s board, “Most of the past and present regional leadership and donors no longer have confidence in Jonathan. These episodes are embarrassing; Jonathan is making it so hard to support and defend ADL.” Steven Ludwig, a regional board member in Philadelphia and an ADL volunteer since the 1990s who resigned in May, wrote in his own letter that the group has been “silent when it is most needed,” failing “to stand up against the spread of hatred, the erosion of the rule of law, and the threat of authoritarianism.”

At the same time, the organization has been bleeding young staffers. Many who have left mourn the narrowing of the ADL’s mission — that “justice and fair treatment for all” has been put on the back burner.

At the June meeting in the Eisenhower building, attendees listened to a stream of speakers from the Trump administration, including Martin Marks, the White House Jewish liaison; Adam Boehler, who serves as the U.S. special envoy for hostage response; and Leo Terrell, the former talk-radio host now chairing the Justice Department’s antisemitism task force. White House chief of staff Susie Wiles made an appearance, as did staff secretary Will Scharf, who told the group about upcoming steps the administration planned to take in the name of fighting antisemitism: additional “pressure on the universities, more prosecutions by DoJ, things like that,” a source with direct knowledge of the matter told me.

Then Scharf added that Trump would soon be instituting a new version of the infamous “Muslim ban” from his first administration, blocking travel from a dozen countries, most of them majority Muslim. It was implied that this was in response to the recent antisemitic attacks. The ADL had been a committed opponent of the original Muslim ban in 2017, fighting the order in court and lobbying Congress to overturn it. When the Supreme Court upheld the prohibition, Greenblatt had called it a “dark and shameful stain on America’s history,” describing it as “plainly discriminatory, inhumane, and un-American.”

In June, however, behind closed doors, neither the ADL’s rep nor anyone else in the room said a word in objection. In the days ahead, the organization was quiet on the subject, even as other Jewish groups came out against the renewed order. There were no tweets, no mention of the policy during Greenblatt’s media appearances, only a statement posted to the organization’s website that expressed appreciation that the Trump administration had “prioritized the battle against antisemitism” and noted “we do not believe the recent presidential action on immigration directly will reduce the surge of anti-Jewish hate.”

In some ways, it was a perfect encapsulation of the ADL’s new tack. The group was founded on the idea that Jewish rights and safety were inextricably linked to the rights of others. Once the ADL’s primary focus became stopping anti-Zionism, its calculus changed. Its new version of Jewish defense was zero sum and dependent on a conception of a singular Jewish viewpoint. “New plan,” Greenblatt said in his address to national leadership last year, repeating a phrase that had recently been taken up by other Jewish organizations: “Put on your own oxygen mask first.”

Forming relationships with those in positions of power has been part of the ADL’s strategy for decades — the group sees it as a way of keeping Jews safe. “Jewish people have lived under regimes where there was one party that liked Jews and one party that didn’t,” a former ADL staffer said. “If there’s another Holocaust, you need to be able to get a phone call in.”

For more than a half-century, the ADL’s influence has been vast, directly affecting government policy, law-enforcement practices, and conceptions of extremism nationwide. Despite internal dissent and public criticism, Greenblatt’s ADL, with roughly 450 full-time staffers and tens of thousands of individual donors, is by some measures as strong as the organization has ever been. Last year, its revenue reached a record $163 million. It spent $1.4 million lobbying in Washington, D.C., in part to promote bills that would codify anti-Zionism as antisemitism and make it easier for students to file civil-rights complaints against their colleges. In New York State, it helped to pass the Stop Hiding Hate Act, which forced social-media companies to make their moderation practices public. Its education program, which focuses on antisemitism, reached 5 million K–12 students in 2024, and more than 70,000 people participated in its advocacy campaigns against antisemitism and in support of Israel. The group’s counter-extremism research is considered the gold standard in the field, even by the ADL’s critics. The impact of its “campus antisemitism report cards” is undeniable: Last May, congressional Republicans used them to grill university presidents.

According to the ADL, last year its staff trained 17,000 law-enforcement professionals — both cops and FBI agents — on what is and isn’t a hate crime, and the group says it provided more than 2,700 tips related to extremist actors. (It’s cagey about this process but cited two recent examples of people flagged: one, a social-media user from Colorado, who threatened to bomb a synagogue and another, in Canada, whose online antisemitic tirades led to hate-crimes charges.)

The ADL’s networks, authority, and expertise allow it to respond to violence and tragedy in a way few other organizations can. Within hours of the murders at the Jewish Capital Museum, the D.C. Metropolitan Police reached out to the ADL for help investigating the alleged killer and any potentially involved support networks. In the days that followed, ADL representatives, at the behest of the FBI, arranged for about a hundred community leaders to meet with federal and local law enforcement, which tried to assure them their synagogues and day schools would be protected. Members of the group’s government-affairs unit worked to restore funding to protect Jewish community centers and houses of worship (it had been frozen under Trump in March), and in late June, the Federal Emergency Management Agency allocated $94 million for 512 Jewish organizations.

Historically, the ADL has tried to use its power for both elements of its dual mission, twisting and turning between righteous action on behalf of broad civil rights and the narrower pursuit of what it understands to be the interests of Jewish people. In the 1920s, it fought the KKK through the introduction of anti-masking laws in state legislatures; in the 1950s and ’60s, the group wrote briefs against school segregation and marched with Martin Luther King Jr. in D.C. and in Selma across the Edmund Pettus Bridge. In the aughts, it pushed to outlaw anti-gay hate crimes, and in the 2010s, it battled in the courts for the legalization of same-sex marriage.

It was the same organization, however, that was sued for allegedly selling information on American anti-apartheid activists to the ruling South African regime in the 1980s and that in recent years surveilled left-wing activists who opposed an ADL-backed program to train American cops in Israel. (In a comment, a spokesperson for the ADL said the organization “is not engaged in surveillance of anyone.”) At the height of 2020’s racial-justice protests, the ADL’s support of such programs led a group of more than 100 progressive organizations, including the Council on American-Islamic Relations, to launch a campaign to #DropTheADL from left-wing coalitions.

Greenblatt still maintains close ties to several civil-rights leaders, including the Reverend Al Sharpton and Marc Morial, the president of the National Urban League. But the ADL’s recent decision to step back from work on behalf of other minority groups was, according to senior sources in the organization and Greenblatt’s own public statements, intentional and explicit. Some insiders insist the sheer volume and ferocity of attacks on Jews forced the decision — that the old approach became a luxury. To others, the shift has resulted in a betrayal of the group’s core values.

One former staffer I spoke with in the spring had spent years in the education department of the organization, teaching anti-bias and diversity seminars and helping schools respond to hateful incidents. But after October 7, they were told they had a new mission: to, as they recalled it, “reach out to districts, reach out to school principals, and try to convince them to curb or not allow the student protests” over the Gaza war. They were supposed to be subtle: “It wasn’t ‘Don’t protest.’ It was ‘This particular protest is going to be antisemitic.’” In December 2023, the ADL stopped offering schools its signature broad-based anti-bias program. “Previously, we would respond to anti-LGBTQ incidents or racism,” the staffer said. No more. “That was the most difficult — when I had schools coming to me saying, ‘Hey, we need the support.’ And I had to say, ‘I can’t help you.’”
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When Jonathan Greenblatt talks about his family in public, he talks about his grandfather the Holocaust survivor and often dwells on his in-laws, who escaped the Islamic Republic of Iran as refugees in the late 1980s. After the 1979 revolution, the family stayed, but the regime turned brutally antisemitic, surveilling its Jewish population and teaching schoolchildren that “the Zionist state” needed to be destroyed. Eventually, Greenblatt’s father-in-law managed to transport his family, one by one, to the U.S. “Their story stands as a sober symbol of the vulnerability of Jews and other minorities,” Greenblatt writes in his 2022 book, It Could Happen Here. “It’s also a reminder that cataclysms don’t happen all at once. They unfold gradually, almost imperceptibly. When the outlines of the horror become clear, it might be too late to escape. Genocides start like this.”

Greenblatt grew up in a conservative Jewish family in Connecticut’s Fairfield County. Though he has long believed, since at least his college days, that anti-Zionism is deeply intertwined with antisemitism, as a young man, he was firm in the conviction that opposing views should be heard. At Tufts University, where he hosted a show for the college radio station and liked to grab $8 tickets to games at Fenway (he once called the Green Monster, the ball park’s left-field wall, his kotel, or “holy site”), he took a distinct stance in favor of free speech. As the editor of the opinion page of the school paper, he oversaw articles by anti-Zionists and several editorials standing up for the rights of outspoken antisemites.

In 1993, Greenblatt joined the Clinton administration as an aide in the Commerce Department. He met his wife, Marjan Keypour, seven years later on a blind date when they were both living in Los Angeles. She was an associate director at the local ADL branch. In 2002, Greenblatt started a “socially responsible” bottled-water company with a B-school buddy (a portion of proceeds went to charity) and, within a few years, sold it to Starbucks. He became a VP at the coffee company, managing consumer products.

He and Marjan had three children and built a home that was kosher, shomer Shabbos, and “very Zionist,” as he told an Orthodox Jewish podcaster last year. By 2011, Greenblatt was in the Obama White House as the head of the Office of Social Innovation and Civic Participation, which encouraged corporate philanthropy. In 2014, a headhunter tapped him for the position of ADL national director. In Greenblatt’s telling, it was a surprise; he’d interned with the ADL in college, but that was his only work experience in the Jewish world. Marjan was “the Jewish nonprofit professional, and I was a make-money person,” Greenblatt told the podcaster. “So this is definitely a bit of a role reversal.”

Abe Foxman, Greenblatt’s predecessor, had devoted 50 years to the ADL. Foxman was consistent and pugilistic in his defense of American Jews, American rights, and the Israeli state — against threats big and small, slights major and minor. In his tenure, the ADL cemented its place as one of the country’s most important mainstream Jewish advocacy organizations, alongside groups such as the American Jewish Committee and the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. At the time, such organizations broadly agreed on domestic issues but often split on Israel. To the ADL’s right were groups such as the Zionist Organization of America; left-leaning outfits like J Street emerged late in Foxman’s tenure. In this period, the ADL furthered its reputation for supporting the civil rights of other minorities, but Arab and Muslim groups were not always included. In 2006, Foxman called interfaith dialogue with Muslim groups a “pipe dream” because, he claimed, not a single one rejected terrorism.

Greenblatt shared Foxman’s hard-charging temperament, but insiders say he moved much more quickly. While Foxman’s approach was described by multiple current and former employees as something like “Ready, aim, fire,” Greenblatt’s was said to be “Ready, fire, aim.” He was impulsive, unconcerned with the status quo, and competitive with other Jewish groups. He was also tech savvy and financially innovative. In the 2010s, under his leadership, the ADL used every tool it had to go after the extremist right and its more respectable supporters in Republican politics and Silicon Valley. Just two months into Trump’s first term, Greenblatt launched a center to combat online hate, putting the ADL ahead of the curve among similar groups. Earlier this year, in a highly unusual move for a nonprofit, the organization pledged its support for a $100 million investment fund on the New York Stock Exchange, one it says is intended to help investors use their money “Jewishly” and fight “anti-Israel” sentiment in the boardroom.

Greenblatt’s disregard for the status quo could also, at times, put him at odds with his staff. After the 2019 mass shooting that targeted Walmart shoppers in El Paso, Texas, for example, he pushed members of Congress for a new law mandating that domestic terror networks be treated like their foreign counterparts. The ADL’s civil-rights team warned that this was a terrible idea, that such measures could easily be weaponized against any administration’s chosen enemies. But Greenblatt kept pushing, asking an outside firm to draft language for a bill when ADL employees dragged their feet. The idea was ultimately shelved, but neither he nor the civil-rights team forgot the incident; it was one of several in which Greenblatt bristled at his own staff’s noncompliance.

One former ADL staffer recalled Greenblatt describing the civil-rights team, after a different dispute: “‘You know, these people are malcontents. These people can’t get with the program.’” In 2020, the organization’s top civil-rights lawyer left, soon followed by many of his leading deputies. The few who remained were renamed members of the “Democracy” team, which itself was eventually dissolved. With Greenblatt’s blessing, one of the nation’s oldest civil-rights groups was left without a dedicated civil-rights division.

In recent years, Greenblatt’s reactive approach has become more visible to the public. A few days before October 7, he backed down from a confrontation with Elon Musk, resuming advertising on X after months of criticizing the billionaire and the platform. Employees were baffled. One frustrated former staffer told me, “I asked if anyone can give me an explanation of what the cost-benefit is.” Even some of the most senior executives struggled to understand Greenblatt’s decision.

Since at least 2016, Greenblatt had expressly made the case that anti-Zionism is antisemitism. By 2020, the idea had become integral in his public pronouncements. “The casual demonization of the Jewish state leads to the demonization of all Jewish people,” he told a rally in Brooklyn. The ADL officially maintained more nuance for a time, acknowledging that “some Palestinians may call themselves anti-Zionists because of how they perceive Zionism has impacted them personally.” The group continued to criticize Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as it had for years; it condemned his political allies for promoting “unabashed and virulent anti-Arab racism, violence, and political extremism.” But for the country’s leading self-proclaimed antisemitism watchdog, anti-Zionism was quickly becoming what mattered most.

In May 2021, Hamas and its allies fired thousands of rockets into Israel, killing 13 people. Israel responded with a massive counterattack, launching a series of strikes on Gaza from land, sea, and air. An estimated 72,000 Palestinians were displaced from their homes. By the ADL’s own estimate, “at least 248 Palestinians” were killed, “including many children.” Protests erupted around the world at what appeared to be the collective punishment of civilians for militants’ actions. Calls to boycott or divest from Israel grew. ADL data showed anti-Israel sentiment in the U.S. was beginning to edge more into violence: 88 assaults compared to 33 the year before. That September, a group of men jumped out of their cars in front of a sushi restaurant in a heavily Jewish section of Los Angeles, threw bottles, screamed “Dirty Jew” and “Israel kills children,” and started a fistfight. People who know Greenblatt well say that the mounting incidents weighed on him. “I genuinely think he’s been traumatized over the last few years,” one former colleague said. “If you’re the CEO of the ADL during a historic rise in antisemitism, that could probably feel like you’ve let people down.”

One senior ADL source told me, “We went to our Center on Extremism, and I said to them, ‘You need to bulk up. You don’t have enough people looking at antisemitism coming from far-left and Islamist groups.’” Greenblatt did not need convincing. And in May 2022, he made a speech to ADL national leaders that would alter the organization’s trajectory long into the future. He called out groups that supported Palestinian rights — the Council on American Islamic Relations, Students for Justice in Palestine, and Jewish Voice for Peace — as “the radical left,” which he said was “the photo inverse of the extreme right that ADL long has tracked.”

For years Greenblatt had warned about rising antisemitism on the left, but declaring these organizations equal to the Klan and neo-Nazis was new. Greenblatt acknowledged that “unlike their right-wing analogs, these organizations might not have armed themselves,” but he insisted they “unapologetically, regularly denigrate and dehumanize Jews.” (It is worth repeating that one of these groups is called Jewish Voice for Peace.)

Some ADL staffers were shocked. The rhetorical turn was so jarring that they wondered — and continue to wonder — whether conservative donors had pushed Greenblatt into it. According to one former staffer, “Jonathan was taking a lot of shit from ‘right-leaning donors’ at the time for not being aggressive enough against ‘campus antisemitism.’”

Current and former ADL employees repeatedly mentioned one name in connection with this idea: Marc Rowan, the Republican megadonor and CEO of Apollo Global Management. (Rowan, through a representative, declined to comment for this story.) “I cannot come up with an explanation for why, after years of campus issues, Jonathan changed his position,” said a third former staffer, who noted that the “Marc Rowans of the world” use “kind of similar language and framing” to what Greenblatt landed on at that time. Some staffers believed the decision was at least partially motivated by Greenblatt’s need to win. “He used to talk to us all the time about the competitive landscape,” a second former staffer said, referring to other mainstream Jewish organizations that would be vying for the same funding. “He didn’t want to leave money on the table.”

Shortly after Greenblatt’s speech, a researcher at the ADL’s Center on Extremism wrote in an organizationwide Slack channel that his comments had smacked of “both-sides-ism” and that his assessment was “incompatible with the data I have seen.” Greenblatt had a clear response in an all-hands Zoom a week later: To those who did not agree “that anti-Zionism is antisemitism,” he said, “maybe this isn’t the place for you.” Employees at all levels began preparing their résumés.

The dispute was more than philosophical, as some staffers had tried to communicate to Greenblatt before his speech. His analysis could affect activists’ lives. “We have incredibly close and influential contacts with law enforcement,” a former staffer noted. “If we say groups like Students for Justice in Palestine and Jewish Voice for Peace and CAIR are exactly the same as these neo-Nazi groups, like Atomwaffen, they’re going to go after them. They’re going to surveil them.”
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On the night of Saturday, October 7, 2023, on an ADL Zoom, Greenblatt was inconsolable. One participant recalled him pounding his fist. Later, he told the staff that his younger son’s camp counselor had been at the Supernova festival where approximately one-third of the killings of that day took place, and Hamas — these “barbarians” — had taken him. “What Hamas did was not just kill these 1,200-plus people and not just steal these 250 people,” he later told an interviewer with the Jewish Broadcasting Service. “I think they killed something in all of us. They stole something from all of us.”

Many staffers felt the same way. “You work at ADL, everyone you know lost someone,” said one former employee. Some pro-Palestinian groups’ initial reactions to the attacks hardened their sense of abandonment. Students for Justice in Palestine called October 7 “a historic win for the Palestinian resistance.” As protests emerged nationwide — against Israel and against its 56-year squeeze on Gaza, the West Bank, and Palestinian people — activists argued they wanted to head off another horrific cycle of retribution. To some in the ADL, it seemed like victim-blaming, even spitting on the dead.

Many top staffers felt that few of their traditional liberal allies were interested in helping — many couldn’t even be bothered to call and offer support as violent antisemitic incidents ticked up. That November, University of Massachusetts student Efe Ercelik, to take one example among many, was charged with assault for allegedly punching and kicking in the stomach a Jewish student who was attending a rally in support of the hostages taken by Hamas. “You think you’re so tough waving a flag, Zionist shitbag?” Ercelik allegedly yelled.

Feeling under siege, ADL staff grasped for ideas — any idea — that could help contain what it saw as spiraling hate. One of the former staffers told me, “I remember one of my colleagues saying to me, ‘Hey, really, seriously, go take a ten-minute walk and then call me back. Because everything you just proposed goes against the Constitution.’”

The one step the organization took pains to avoid, at least publicly, was examining how the Israeli government’s actions might be fueling a global movement against it. Not in the war’s opening days, when Netanyahu drove more than a million civilians out of northern Gaza. Not the next year, when videos appeared to show Israeli soldiers throwing corpses off a roof, or when Israeli drones attacked a convoy of World Central Kitchen aid workers, killing seven. Not when people such as Mahmoud Nafez al-’Aidy of Rafah awoke in hospitals and soon learned that their entire families had been wiped out. “I’m alone in the world now,” al-’Aidy told the Israeli human-rights organization B’Tselem. “Everything I cared about is gone.”

By this summer, the ADL would begin to pose measured and implied criticisms, such as in a post on X that stated it would welcome an investigation into an attack, by Israeli Defense Forces, on a church in Gaza, which killed three people. (The IDF blamed the incident on “an unintentional deviation of munitions.”) But these were exceptions. Many ADL insiders believed the time for questioning Israel’s military efforts had ended on October 7. As one ADL executive put it when we spoke this spring, “We’re not getting into the weeds of how Israel prosecutes this war.” Many other employees disagreed — one even wore a keffiyeh onstage at a major ADL event to show it — but Greenblatt and his top deputies held firm.

On October 25, 2023, Greenblatt and Ken Marcus, the former head of the U.S. Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights, sent an open letter to university presidents with “an urgent request for immediate investigations into local chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine” for “materially supporting a foreign terrorist organization.” This was, in essence, a call to treat these activists like members of the organization that had just kidnapped grandmothers and murdered elementary-school children. Greenblatt and Marcus cited no evidence in their letter that SJP had physically threatened the safety of Jewish students. Instead, the missive, in the words of one former ADL staffer, seemed to be an attempt to “hyperrestrict” the free-speech rights of the ADL’s ideological adversaries. It felt “particularly, frankly, evil to me,” the staffer said. SJP was subsequently banned on several campuses, as was Jewish Voice for Peace.

As the ADL continued its campaign, filing federal complaints against Yale, UMass Amherst, and other schools for allegedly failing to protect Jewish students from violence and threats, Greenblatt frequently cited ADL data. There had been more than 3,000 antisemitic incidents in the three months after October 7, he said, a 360 percent jump over the same period a year before. But in January 2024, the organization’s researchers conceded to the Forward that the increase was in part derived from a change in methodology. “Anti-Zionist chants and slogans” now accounted for more than 40 percent of the total incidents.

In June, I spoke with the ADL’s top researcher, Oren Segal, who has defended the shift many times. “I just want to be clear,” he tells me. “You want to say ‘Free Palestine,’ great. We’re not going to include that in the audit. You want to spray-paint that on a Jewish institution, you bet your ass we’re including it.”

When Jonathan Greenblatt congratulated Donald Trump on his election win on November 6 in a post on X, he noted the ADL remained “steadfastly committed” to fighting antisemitism and “all forms of hate and extremism.” As of November 9, however, according to Internet Archive logs, prominent sections of the ADL’s website devoted to voting rights, racial justice, and other civil-rights issues — ones available online as recently as late September — had been removed. The education division’s lesson plans on transgender identity and issues were gone, too, as were webpages on the importance of DEI programs. Books on LGBTQ+ themes had been excised from the ADL’s online bibliography of recommended children’s and young-adult literature.

In March, when the Trump administration detained Columbia University graduate and legal resident Mahmoud Khalil, the ADL hailed its “resolve” to dole out “swift and severe consequences for those who provide material support to foreign terrorist organizations.” (Khalil was never charged with a crime but nevertheless spent 104 days behind bars before a judge ordered his release. He has since filed a $20 million claim against the Trump administration for false imprisonment.)

The blowback was nuclear, especially from the left. “BRB, checking the history books to find out whether ‘tyrant starts redefining peoples’ citizenship status’ usually ends well for the Jews,” posted Leah Greenberg, the co-founder of Indivisible, a progressive advocacy group. In a Washington Post editorial, journalist Matt Bai, who has known Greenblatt for decades, wondered how “a civil rights organization for a minority that has been brutally evicted all over the world” could “not loudly oppose the cruel and unlawful removal of foreigners.”

Eventually, and in response to what he called “the Mahmoud Khalil situation,” Greenblatt sent a letter to the ADL’s regional leaders. He acknowledged that “many are frustrated” but seemed to define the dispute as a problem of messaging and promised to “do better” without addressing the substance of what had been said. (The ADL sometimes gets in trouble when it tries to “manage the news cycle,” he wrote. “We need to slow down.”) In April, after several more instances of ICE abducting foreign-born students off the street, Greenblatt finally wrote an op-ed about the need to protect civil liberties in eJewish Philanthropy, an outlet far more obscure than his usual platforms.

To the Trump administration and many of its right-wing allies, this was more evidence that the ADL wasn’t hard-core enough in its antisemitism agenda. The right had long believed the organization was overly concerned with being “woke.” And even as the ADL shifted focus, it had continued to call out Trump officials for trafficking in antisemitic conspiracy theories and to oppose the far right in some cases. In February, the group sued the neo-Nazi group Blood Tribe for intimidating Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio. Shabbos Kestenbaum, a leading advocate for the Trumpist crackdown on higher education in the name of fighting antisemitism, put it this way: “Most of the criticism within the Jewish community against the ADL was that they’re way too far left, that they focused way more on transgender issues and Black Lives Matter over the last couple of years.” In January 2024, Kestenbaum sued Harvard University, where he went to divinity school, for allegedly ignoring hate on campus, but did not involve the ADL despite the group’s long winning record.

“The ADL, they’re very quick to condemn conservatives for some stupid shit,” one senior administration official told me. But when it comes to liberal institutions, they said, the organization is “wishy-washy, namby-pamby.” Meanwhile, Christian Zionist groups that have been loyal to the administration have been able to directly influence its policies. Orthodox Jewish organizations, which have been similarly faithful in their support of Trump, have been overrepresented in administration strategy sessions fighting antisemitism. The militant Zionists of Betar U.S. are calling for pro-Palestinian activists to be kicked out of the country — and the Trump administration is apparently listening. In April, one day after Betar claims it “submitted his name for deportation,” as the organization posted on X, the government revoked the visa of Efe Ercelik, the Turkish national who punched and kicked the Jewish student at the University of Massachusetts. According to court documents unsealed in early July, intelligence analysts at the Department of Homeland Security assembled dossiers on more than 75 pro-Palestinian students and scholars based on identifications made by Canary Mission, the ultraright pro-Israel website.

In January, the ADL hired a Republican-leaning lobbying firm, Ballard Partners, to make inroads with the MAGA movement and set up meetings with Trump officials. But until the Boulder and Capital Jewish Museum attacks, that effort was relatively slow going. The organization’s reputation in Trumpist circles as thoroughly left wing — “an ACLU for Jews,” as one source put it — was difficult to shake.

To many outside the Trumpist orbit, however, the group appeared increasingly right wing. On July 6, representatives of the nation’s largest teachers’ union voted to cut ties with the ADL, stating that it is “not the social-justice educational partner it claims to be.” Greenblatt’s team blamed the move on a “pro-Hamas” faction in the union. (The executive committee of the union later rejected the proposal.)

And yet, the organization will soon have a greater say on college campuses: Columbia University, as part of its attempts to appease the Trump administration, has agreed to partner with the group on a new antisemitism training program. The ADL’s work supplying tips to the FBI continues. And the organization is now leveraging its financial might in support of Israel’s ongoing assault on Gaza: In April, the organization and its new investment fund urged weapons-makers such as Lockheed Martin to reject shareholder proposals that called for examining “apparent war crimes” in the territory. (Such proposals were “designed to pressure the companies into severing ties with Israel,” Greenblatt said in a press release. His group wouldn’t stand for that kind of “insidious antisemitic and anti-Israel activity.”)

At the same time, the ADL worldview and approach is falling out of step with a significant portion of American Jews. Some victims of recent antisemitic incidents tell me they haven’t wanted to turn to the national ADL for support, including Jordan Acker, a member of University of Michigan’s Board of Regents, whose office and home were both vandalized last year. In December, he was awakened at two o’clock in the morning by the sound of broken glass. Someone had thrown jars of urine through his front window and spray-painted FREE PALESTINE on his car. Acker says members of his local ADL chapter comforted his family and coordinated with law enforcement to help them feel safe. But he didn’t want any help from Greenblatt or the national team; he was too concerned the ADL would politicize his family’s pain. The organization was “just so focused” on “calling balls and strikes on what is antisemitism,” he said. “It’s less interested — in fact, maybe even not interested — in protecting the values that made America great for Jews.”

As the ADL digs in alongside the Trump administration, 72 percent of American Jews in a recent poll say they believe the president is “dangerous.” Sixty-one percent say the deportation of pro-Palestinian activists would boost anti-Jewish hate, not curb it. In June’s Democratic mayoral primary in New York, the country’s most Jewish city, Zohran Mamdani won by more than 130,000 votes despite a multimillion-dollar media campaign to brand his pro-Palestinian activism as antisemitic.

In mid-July, I spoke with Amy Spitalnick, the CEO of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, who has recently taken on a kind of interpreter role between progressive politicians and Jewish leaders. Without mentioning the ADL by name, she cautioned Jewish groups against aligning themselves with the Trump administration. The Jewish community, she told me, “does not want our legitimate fears to be exploited to advance an extremist antidemocratic agenda.”

“When we allow the rights of one community to be targeted based on their identity or their beliefs, it opens the door for any community to be targeted,” Spitalnick went on. “The idea that any of these efforts to deport people, to undermine people’s fundamental rights, are going to start and stop with some Palestinian activist is naïve at best.” In other words, it wasn’t only wrong to allow the rights of others to be stripped away — the Torah demands Jews treat the stranger as family — it was also dangerous.

The idea is of course familiar. It’s a caution repeated, for centuries, by Jewish thinkers and a concept Greenblatt seems to have embraced in the early days of his tenure, back when Trump was first in power. “When we fight for others,” he told ADL leaders, “we are fighting for ourselves. When we fight for their civil rights, we actually are fighting for our own.”

Now, as the world seems to be waking up to the reality of a forced famine in Gaza — where, according to an international coalition of relief agencies, more than half a million people are at risk of starving to death — the ADL’s choice to defend Zionism above all else has frequently put the organization in an Orwellian bind. Trump says he’s been shocked by the images of “real starvation,” and two of Israel’s best-known human-rights groups are, for the first time, calling the war in Gaza a “genocide.” But representatives of the ADL continue to deflect and deny.

“The suffering of children, in particular, should break all of our hearts and spur action toward a just resolution,” one executive posted, in the last week of July. “But it’s equally vital that the international community does not fall prey to Hamas’s propaganda efforts … There is no famine and no starvation.”

Correction: This story has been updated to clarify the context of Greenblatt’s support of a proposed domestic terror law.



The American right is falling out of love with Israel
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5425774-the-american-right-i
s-falling-out-of-love-with-israel
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The Christian Zionist View of Foreign Policy Is Holy War
https://truthout.org/articles/the-christian-zionist-view-of-foreign-po
licy-is-holy-war
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Christian Zionists see Israel as the focus of US foreign policy — a handy euphemism for US empire.

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