'Valor knows no gender': Pentagon lifts ban on women in combat by Niki2

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'Valor knows no gender': Pentagon lifts ban on women in combat

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 02:56
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Monday, January 28, 2013 6:07 PM

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I would consider you to be too unkind to the Everyman here though. If you want to talk trash about someone, do it to the higher ups rather than the little guy.

When the "little guy" is what enables the higher ups and their insanity by continuing to support it wholeheartedly, he deserves the reaming I dish out.

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Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:44 AM

AGENTROUKA

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Bad idea.

Well that proves it! Well, maybe not it .... but something. =0)

sincerely, 1933

Keep standards the same for men and women, I say hell yeah, do it.

Lower standards to let some politically expedient types make it in... bad idea.

So leaving out the only semi-related issue of troop-on-troop rape and disregarding the idea that standard requirements might be watered down, is anyone here actually against the idea of women in combat roles?

Because it seems to me that we all generally agree that it's absolutely okay, right?

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Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:56 AM

AGENTROUKA

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If rape is the issue, then the real problem is, indeed, not whether or not women are allowed to serve in combat positions (I mean, it would really make no difference at this point since women in the military are already being assaulted) but rather what the hell kind of culture within the military is the cause of that.

A very, VERY screwed up and dysfunctional one, there's a reason I call it Military CULT-ure, after all.

Thank you for your detailed reply!

You kind of hit on my personal prejudice against the military in general. I find a lot of the rituals connected to its hierarchical structure to be suspect, but mainly its the sense of an exclusive, closed society with very particular rules and a perceived disconnect from civil society that makes me wary. The purpose of a military is to serve in the defense of its civil society, if I understand correctly, and as such that's an honorable path to choose. But its fraught with symbolic and highly emotional meaning and anachronistic rituals which serves to make it more separate and opaque than it should be.

But then, I generally find the idea of overt patriotism to be uncomfortable, so that's connected to it. I have only a little personal experience with people who served in the military (German and US) and most of what colors my view of these individuals is connected to outside circumstances, so I cannot truly judge.

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