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GM chief Wagoner ousted by Obama
Monday, March 30, 2009 12:43 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by SergeantX: fascism is in the eye of the beholder. SergeantX "Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
Monday, March 30, 2009 12:44 PM
Monday, March 30, 2009 1:33 PM
WHOZIT
Monday, March 30, 2009 3:31 PM
CITIZEN
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: They said, "Take this money. Nice, isn't it? Now, you're going to do what we say!"
Monday, March 30, 2009 3:39 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by PhoenixRose: If it's found that the grant money that was meant for development has instead gone into a CEO bonus package? YES. Where are you getting the thing about controlling salary? I just saw an irresponsible cretin being removed from the danger zone, not any statements about what the workers will make hence forth.
Quote:That might well have been a better use for that 17 billion dollars. However, I have to say, if I asked someone for 17 billion dollars for a repair job on my office building or something, and they actually gave it to me, and four months later I had a new car, new jet, new house, and a private island, but the roof on the company that should have been supplying my income was still leaking and I said "Oh no, I'm out of money, will you help me out again?" I think they'd be justified in being upset with me.
Monday, March 30, 2009 4:26 PM
Quote: No one is accusing GM management of using the bailout money for bonuses.
Quote: You're the kind of person the current government loves. You don't know who's doing what, don't look beyond the soundbites the media feeds you, and are jealous of folks who make more money than you - who are obviously (in your opinion) ripping everyone off. They can channel your misguided rage to support pretty much anything they want to do.
Monday, March 30, 2009 5:08 PM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Monday, March 30, 2009 5:51 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Monday, March 30, 2009 6:02 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:people complain about bonuses? And then complain this guy getting axed? Which way do you want it?
Monday, March 30, 2009 6:39 PM
Quote:fascism is in the eye of the beholder.
Monday, March 30, 2009 9:02 PM
RIVERDANCER
Monday, March 30, 2009 10:58 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:01 AM
RIPWASH
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RiverDancer: Hey there, Geezer, could I have a billion dollars, no strings attached? Just a single middling billion, apparently a drop in the bucket, especially in comparison with all else. Whatdya say?
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: The guy should be shaved into pieces... very slowly... people complain about bonuses? And then complain this guy getting axed? Which way do you want it?
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:03 AM
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: The guy should be shaved into pieces... very slowly... people complain about bonuses? And then complain this guy getting axed? Which way do you want it? Well, I'd like to see a bit less of the lynch mob mentality. I'll probably be disappointed. "Keep the Shiny side up"
SERGEANTX
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:22 AM
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: The guy should be shaved into pieces... very slowly... people complain about bonuses? And then complain this guy getting axed? Which way do you want it? Well, I'd like to see a bit less of the lynch mob mentality. I'll probably be disappointed.
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:09 AM
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:50 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:So I have a 2002 Kia Sportage in my driveway
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:53 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:08 AM
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:29 AM
Quote:The bonus was in their contracts, and the stipulation for receiving it was met.
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:14 AM
Quote: All I'm saying is that $99 million a year is a huge chunk of change that could have gone toward lowering the sticker price on the cars and stimulate the economy, along with building their revenue and avoiding the mess they're in now.
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:16 AM
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:20 AM
Quote: Pro-tip, if your Kia sportage heater core starts leaking - set the goddamn thing on fire and walk away, you'll thank me, I swear.
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:21 AM
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: Man...I cannot wait for Tesla (or someone else) to finally make an electric car I can afford. Simplicity = reliability. Then, I can install some solar panels, and charge my car for free. Not to mention upgrading my engine (i.e. battery) every 2 to 3 years.... SWEET!
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:34 AM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Obama knows more about building cars and managing a business. RU smarter than an dope dealing illegal alien tax-exempt "non-profit" foundation director?
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:41 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: The money GM got was a loan, and you can bet there were strings attached, the biggest string being that it should be repaid.
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:59 AM
Quote:I suppose giving them money was the first bad precedent. Stealing it back is the second.
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:00 PM
Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:58 PM
Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Yes, the kill-'em-all mentality should ONLY be applied to Muslims... [/snark]
Wednesday, April 1, 2009 3:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: I see you're letting your preconceptions and stereotypes outrun reality again.
Quote: I find the concept that the PRESIDENT can fire an employee of a private business, coupled with the Administration's demonstrated will to punish anyone they think is making too much money, troubling.
Wednesday, April 1, 2009 4:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: How's this for a bailout agreement. You keep the money. We keep your head. Sounds fair to me! -Frem It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
Wednesday, April 1, 2009 5:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: Not that Mr. Waggoner has been doing a stellar job, but I find the concept that the PRESIDENT can fire an employee of a private business, coupled with the Administration's demonstrated will to punish anyone they think is making too much money, troubling. It seems a violation of the basic American principle that you should be able to work where you can and earn what you can. At this point no one will mind, because it's just "rich" folk having their rights tampered with...
Wednesday, April 1, 2009 5:24 AM
Wednesday, April 1, 2009 6:32 AM
Quote:But once the blade starts falling, it is generally indiscriminate.
Quote:Nobody cries for the witches during a witch hunt, because nobody likes a warty witch. But when someone points at YOU and calls you witch, you might feel differently.
Quote:I've yet to see a witch hunt where only the witches burn. But by all means, enjoy the bonfire.
Wednesday, April 1, 2009 7:01 AM
Wednesday, April 1, 2009 10:57 AM
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