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Open Border Democrats Get a Taste of Reality
Thursday, October 5, 2023 11:22 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:NEW YORK -- After getting only limited help from the Biden administration to stop the flow of asylum seekers, Mayor Eric Adams is taking matters into his own hands. He's traveling south of the border to tell people not to expect a warm welcome here. "No vengas aqui" means "Don't come here" in Spanish, and although the message probably won't be printed on the jacket Adams wears to tour the jungles of Colombia, that's his message to the people he'll meet on a three-country trip to Central America and South America. "We're going to tell them that coming to New York doesn't mean you're going to stay in a five-star hotel. It doesn't mean that the mere fact you come here you're automatically going to be allowed to work. We're going to tell them what the real conditions are, the large number, thousands of people, are living in congregant settings," Adams said.
Quote:Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker (D) in a letter to President Biden on Monday said "the federal government's lack of intervention and coordination" over migrants at the border "has created an untenable situation" for the state.
Quote:US President Joe Biden's administration is to build a section of border wall in southern Texas in an effort to stop rising levels of immigration. Around 20 miles (32km) will be built in Starr County along its border with Mexico, where officials report high numbers of crossings. Building a border wall was a signature policy of Donald Trump as president and fiercely opposed by Democrats. In 2020, Mr Biden promised he would not build another foot of wall if elected. His administration passed a proclamation soon after taking office that said building a wall across the southern border "is not a serious policy solution". In a statement to Associated News on Wednesday night, the US Customs and Border Protection defended the latest move, saying it was using funds already allocated for a border barrier. "Congress appropriated fiscal year 2019 funds for the construction of border barrier in the Rio Grande Valley, and DHS is required to use those funds for their appropriated purpose," the statement said.
Thursday, October 5, 2023 12:27 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Thursday, October 5, 2023 12:46 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: Mayorkas finally admits 'immediate need' to build border wall amid surge in illegal immigration Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas has opted to waive a litany of laws and regulations to swiftly construct more border wall in a key Texas hotspot for illegal crossings. "The Secretary of Homeland Security has determined, pursuant to law, that it is necessary to waive certain laws, regulations, and other legal requirements in order to ensure the expeditious construction of barriers and roads in the vicinity of the international land border in Starr County, Texas," reads a notice posted to the U.S. Federal Registry that Fox News obtained.
Thursday, October 5, 2023 2:25 PM
Thursday, October 5, 2023 6:34 PM
Quote:PETER DOOCY, FOX NEWS: As a candidate, President Biden said there will not be another foot of wall constructed in my administration... So something changed, what? KARINE JEAN-PIERRE, BIDEN ADMIN: You want us to break the law. Is that what you want? ... Do you want us to not comply with the law? You want us to be an administration that does not comply with the rule of law? DOOCY: You do this all the time. The student loan forgiveness program, you went to court to fight for that. If this is such a problem, building 20 miles of wall, why not just go to court? JEAN-PIERRE: We went to Congress, the Congress appropriated the funding, we asked them to not use that funding for that particular purpose, they denied it, and now we are complying with the law. DOOCY: If you have to build a border wall but you don't think it is going to work, then when it's done, are you just going to tear it down? JEAN-PIERRE: I'm not getting into hypotheticals... The facts are DHS is complying with the law under fiscal year 2019 under Republican leadership, and DHS is required to do this. The president asked multiple times for Congress to reappropriate, they did not.
Friday, October 6, 2023 1:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: You fucking liars are done. Everything is unraveling all around you and our country is going to shit because of you. You've spent the last 3 years dousing yourself with gasoline and it appears now that you're finally ready to set yourselves on fire. And we won't even have to light the match. You won't be missed. Burn in hell.
Quote:CHICAGO — Calls to do more to control the flow of undocumented immigrants into the country have been an unrelenting GOP rallying cry, a central tenet of party beliefs. But with tens of thousands of migrants now attempting to settle in blue states and cities around the country, the ground has shifted in the national immigration debate, with Democrats increasingly calling on President Joe Biden to take action on the border. It’s all quickly created a political headache for the president. Late Wednesday, the Biden administration took the extraordinary step of waiving a slew of environmental laws to move forward with construction of a roughly 20-mile stretch of new border wall in southern Texas. Though the White House says the decision to move forward with new border wall construction was not tied to calls for action from blue state governors, it comes after their agitation grew to a crescendo.
Quote:No matter how they try to spin it, one thing is clear about the Biden administration's decision to waive more than 20 laws and regulations, including environmental restrictions, to build more sections of a wall along America's southern border in South Texas. The Democrats who demonized President Donald Trump for his focus on stopping illegal immigration and characterized his quest to build such a barrier as "racism" have been mugged by reality. Trump's opponents smeared every effort to put a lid on the problem of illegal immigration as evidence of prejudice against Latinos. Democrats throughout the country declared municipalities to be "sanctuary cities," championed amnesty and characterized the minimal attempts by Immigration and Customs Enforcement to deal with ever-growing crowds of migrants as oppression and police state tactics. So, it was little surprise that no sooner had Biden won the 2020 election promising a "more compassionate" approach to illegal immigration, a massive surge at the border began. Since then, Biden halted much of the operations of border enforcement, undermined the work of the embattled border patrol by falsely accusing them of abuses and racism, and ended the building of the wall that Trump failed to complete. As a result, the number of illegal border crossings—many by individuals pretending to be asylum seekers rather than economic migrants—has surged to record proportions. In the 2022 fiscal year, it was up to 2.7 million with more than 2.8 million in fiscal year 2023. In recent months, the numbers have grown even higher, adding to a humanitarian crisis for overwhelmed border communities.
Quote:President Biden, what took you so long? After nearly six million illegal border crossings since he assumed office, cities and states around the country overwhelmed with migrants seeking shelter, and an influx of new arrivals daily, Biden has had an epiphany: his border policy is a disaster. He won’t admit as much, of course, in Biden’s worldview he’s a problem-solving, economy-rescuing, unifying leader who’s going to save us all from climate change. Until he was tripped by the sandbag of reality. Now the Biden Administration is using executive power to waive 26 federal laws in South Texas to allow border wall construction, according to reports. This is the one thing Biden can truthfully say was “like that when he got here.” Former President Donald Trump was constructing such a wall, and Biden vowed on the 2020 campaign trail that “There will not be another foot of wall constructed on my administration.” That pledge, it seems, was “transitory.”
Saturday, October 7, 2023 12:19 PM
Saturday, October 7, 2023 12:56 PM
Quote: President Joe Biden says he’s been forced to violate a campaign promise by adding some new construction to Donald Trump’s border wall. Big city Democratic mayors are angrily demanding more engagement from the Democratic president to help deal with a wave of migrants seeking asylum. One of them – New York Mayor Eric Adams – is in Latin America this week. Immigration reality is scrambling the normal immigration rhetoric in uncomfortable ways for Democrats, who generally want to appear welcoming but appear to be taking a harder line along with their new positions.
Quote: How did Biden justify the switch? He still says border walls don’t work. “The border wall – the money was appropriated for the border wall,” Biden told reporters in the Oval Office on Thursday. “I tried to get them to reappropriate it, to redirect that money. They didn’t, they wouldn’t. And in the meantime, there’s nothing under the law other than they have to use the money for what it was appropriated. I can’t stop that.”
Quote: Still, this is a violation of Biden’s pledge during the 2020 campaign to build no new border wall and the latest public acknowledgment that US immigration policy is not one of open arms. What has changed? At the border, a fresh tide of migrants has overwhelmed authorities this fall. The images include waves of people crossing illegally. Stowaways on the roofs of trains temporarily closed the international railway bridge in Eagle Pass, Texas, last month. In northern blue states, governors and mayors are getting louder and more urgent in their calls for the White House to do more to stem the tide of migrants coming into the US and being sent north. “The failure of federal policies is now impacting the people of Chicago in a very dramatic way,” said a frustrated Mayor Brandon Johnson in a news conference this week. Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker sent a letter to the White House demanding federal coordination to deal with people crossing the border.
Saturday, October 7, 2023 1:12 PM
Quote: Where will these barriers go? Trump likes to claim that he completed a wall along the Mexico border. That’s inaccurate. As CNN’s fact check team has documented, Trump’s efforts to get a wall built mostly ended up rehabbing 373 miles of barrier. They added 52 miles of primary wall.
Quote: Is this exactly what Trump did when he built border barriers? Biden, like Trump, will need to waive dozens of federal laws – The Clean Air Act and Safe Drinking Water Act, among others – in order to build the new barriers. But there are also major differences between Biden’s actions and Trump’s.
Quote:Again, from Alvarez: “These are funds appropriated by Congress. Under the Trump administration they also used Pentagon funds. That is not what is happening here. And last month, (the Biden administration) sought public input from the community as they sought plans to put up the barriers.”
Quote: What has changed? At the border, a fresh tide of migrants has overwhelmed authorities this fall. The images include waves of people crossing illegally. Stowaways on the roofs of trains temporarily closed the international railway bridge in Eagle Pass, Texas, last month. In northern blue states, governors and mayors are getting louder and more urgent in their calls for the White House to do more to stem the tide of migrants coming into the US and being sent north. “The failure of federal policies is now impacting the people of Chicago in a very dramatic way,” said a frustrated Mayor Brandon Johnson in a news conference this week. Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker sent a letter to the White House demanding federal coordination to deal with people crossing the border. Who is in charge? The federal government is supposed to oversee border policy instead of the current system where migrants are bused north as a political statement by Republican governors. Pritzker and Johnson both gave White House officials an earful in a hastily arranged conference call late Sunday, according to CNN’s report. Adams, who has been voicing agitation at the federal government for months, is on a trip to Mexico, Ecuador and Colombia this week to discourage asylum-seekers from traveling to the US and then New York City. “We are at capacity,” he has said. Adams plans to visit the Darien Gap, the undeveloped mountainous region between Colombia and Panama through which many migrants pass after payments to cartels. CNN reported back in September on the breakdown in the relationship between the White House and New York’s mayor. Shortly thereafter, the Biden administration did expand a Temporary Protected Status program to nearly 500,000 Venezuelans asylum seekers, giving them much quicker access to work permits. That blanket move may also have undercut the administration’s attempt to cut down on the influx of migrants when it promised a tough new policy for undocumented border crossers in May.
Quote: What does polling suggest? Gallup tracks Americans’ attitudes toward immigration and their surveys suggest an uptick in the past two years in the portion of people who want decreased immigration to the US to 41%, its highest level since 2014. Those who want immigration to stay at its present level (31%) or increase (26%) combine for a majority. Democrats since the 1990s have been much more open to immigration than Republicans, although Democrats’ support for increased immigration has fallen since 2021 after decades of generally increasing.
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