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Does Donald Trump Want to be Impeached?

POSTED BY: 6IXSTRINGJACK
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 19:24
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019 9:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Four reasons the president might welcome articles of impeachment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/opinion/impeach-trump.html




Sure... this article does its best to blast Trump whenever it can, but this guy clearly puts a bit more thought into these things than your average chucklefuck does.

We'll just chalk this up to another article "reluctantly" supporting Trump, as I predicted would start happening quite a while ago.

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Wednesday, September 25, 2019 3:59 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Dems are desperate. Look at the fundraising going on. Trump is getting more coin than all of them put together.

The kabuki theatre the Dems are putting on is nothing but a show for the donors.

" Give us money. Please. "

Dems want power and that's all this is. Period.

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Wednesday, September 25, 2019 6:06 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

First, if the Democrats impeach him they will be doing something unpopular instead of something popular. ... the current shape of public opinion is the boring, basic reason that Trump seems to want to be impeached more than Nancy Pelosi wants to impeach him: The Democratic agenda is more popular than the Republican agenda, the likely Democratic nominees are all more popular than Trump, and so anything that puts the Democrats on the wrong side of public opinion may look better, through Trump’s eyes, than the status quo.

(Second), whether the subject is the Clinton Foundation’s influence-peddling or now the Biden family’s variation on that theme, Trump has always sold himself as the candidate of a more honest form of graft — presenting his open cynicism as preferable to carefully legal self-dealing, exquisitely laundered self-enrichment, the spirit of “hey, it’s totally normal for the vice president’s son to get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the Ukrainians or the Chinese so long as every disclosure form gets filled out and his dad doesn’t talk to him about the business.”

Third, an impeachment battle would give Trump a last chance to solidify his hold on the souls and reputations of his possible Republican successors. (What follows is an extremely indirect, convoluted argument that's unconvincing to me.)

Which brings us to the last reason Trump might kind of like to be impeached: Because the circus is the part of politics that he fundamentally enjoys.

The nature of the Trump era is that yuge events recede far more rapidly than anyone expects. So it might be with impeachment: Have the vote or don’t have it, we’ll be arguing about something completely different by the time Americans are going to the polls.

I think Trump has spent a lifetime knowing exactly where the legal line is and never provably going over it. That I think will make impeachent tricky.

When it comes to impeachment and electability, I believe Trump's a consummate salesman, putting himself rhetorically on the right side of issues Americans care about early and often, and thus making sure democrats are in the position of having to respond on those issues. Finally, I think, whether you agree with his tactics or not, he's constantly promoting his efforts to fulfill his election promises, unlike Obama (and democrats in general) who quietly slink away from theirs after an election. I believe those are formidable obstacles to democratic candidates.

When it comes to impeachment, it's anybody's guess as to how it will ultimately play to the American public. At this point, it's looking like a negative for democrats.




tic tac

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Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It's pretty safe to say that it won't play well.

Despite some downturns in his approval rating when the spin machine in the MSM was working overtime painting Trump to have committed treason with regards to Russia, after years of having to endure that conspiracy theory, the people are done listening. They're tuning it out. They're tuning everything out now, which probably isn't the best thing in the world going forward, but apparently Democrat run school systems took Chicken Little and the Boy Who Cried Wolf out of the curriculum.

There is zero ROI for Democrats impeaching now. It will make some people who have been screaming for it for years now happy, but that's it. They were going to vote against Trump anyhow.

An impeachment that will ultimately lead nowhere, which is exactly what this is, is only going to serve to fire up Trump supporters who might have stayed on the couch to go out and vote.

Impeachment is unpopular among voters all along the political spectrum, including among many liberals in the Democrat party. So is most of the stuff they're saying in the debates.

The polls for the general are laughable at this point. Trump beats any single one of them if nothing changes. If impeachment is dragged out for an entire year leading up to it, it's going to be a bloodbath for Democrats.




I'm happy it's happening. I've been asking for them to do it for a long time now. Long before anybody at NYT was questioning whether Trump himself wanted it to happen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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