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Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:41 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:McCain’s “heroism” stems uniquely from the fact that he was an obstreperous prisoner of war unwilling to cooperate with his captors. Undeniably thugs, McCain’s jailers resembled the jailers at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in their sadism and lack of respect for international conventions guaranteeing rights to enemy combatants. That he refused an early release and was not “broken” by his captors does not make him George Washington, Sergeant York or even Audie Murphy. McCain’s earlier and post-War years were ones of privilege, stature and mischief. He was by his own and all other accounts a cocky, drunken, gambling, whore mongering flyboy whose positions before and after the Vietnam War were arranged for by his family connections. His years as Naval Liaison to the US Senate allowed him to charm and ingratiate himself in the corridors of power which led to a vacant House seat being arranged for him in Arizona, where he had never visited let alone lived. His family’s DNA is war. The McCain family history of grandfather, father, McCain himself and now his son being at war is essential to understanding his psyche. He is Sparta and the rest of us are Athens. A President McCain could well lead to the end of The American Century.
Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:08 AM
Quote:McCain’s Smear Campaign Will Have an Impact Long After Election Day Talk about the “fierce urgency of now.” While that phrase might have been been adopted by Barack Obama, it is equally suited — albeit differently applied — to describe the destructive campaign being undertaken by John McCain. Because McCain seems to be gunning to win the election, all future consequences be damned. In the last few weeks, with McCain’s poor handling of the financial crisis, poor debate performances, and cynical pick of Sarah Palin as his running mate torpedoing his chances of winning the presidency, McCain unleashed himself and his minions on a dirty and reckless path of attacking Obama with lies, distortions and smears. McCain and Palin both repeatedly invoke socialism when describing Obama’s economic policies, even though you would be hard-pressed to find a reputable economist who would agree with that assertion, at least without lumping every president since Franklin Roosevelt into the socialism club. (And that doesn’t even take into account the most socialism-reminiscent thing to happen in recent history, the bank and corporate bailouts that were supported by George W. Bush and the Republican leaders of Congress. Are they socialists too?)
Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:12 AM
Quote:Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters he UpTake‘s Chuck Olsen interviews author Irwin Tang about his book, “Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters.” McCain first used the work “gook” in the mass media in his 1973 article for U.S. News & World Report. The word appears 12 times in the article and is available online here. Most recently, McCain used the term in his 2000 presidential campaign, as documented by the San Francisco Chronicle. To learn more about Mr. Tang’s book, which also details McCain’s connection to white supremacist groups, visit his web site.
Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:15 AM
Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:59 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: On the Leftists newest "Hero", John McCain... As described in 2008 by the Huffington Post. Quote:McCain’s “heroism” stems uniquely from the fact that he was an obstreperous prisoner of war unwilling to cooperate with his captors. Undeniably thugs, McCain’s jailers resembled the jailers at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in their sadism and lack of respect for international conventions guaranteeing rights to enemy combatants. That he refused an early release and was not “broken” by his captors does not make him George Washington, Sergeant York or even Audie Murphy. McCain’s earlier and post-War years were ones of privilege, stature and mischief. He was by his own and all other accounts a cocky, drunken, gambling, whore mongering flyboy whose positions before and after the Vietnam War were arranged for by his family connections. His years as Naval Liaison to the US Senate allowed him to charm and ingratiate himself in the corridors of power which led to a vacant House seat being arranged for him in Arizona, where he had never visited let alone lived. His family’s DNA is war. The McCain family history of grandfather, father, McCain himself and now his son being at war is essential to understanding his psyche. He is Sparta and the rest of us are Athens. A President McCain could well lead to the end of The American Century. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-walden/et-tu-mccain_b_97988.html Plenty more where this came from. The Leftist's hypocrisy knows no bounds. I'm just getting started.
Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:17 AM
Quote:It’s all too late now. Not even the eloquent, stinging words of Powell on Meet the Press condemning the descent into the gutter of the McCain campaign can undo the damage that has already been done. McCain, in his tunnel-like view of the race, with its damn-the-future-win-today approach, has already released the poison of smear into the American atmosphere. It’s out there, forcing us to revisit McCarthy-like lies about socialism and Civil War- and Civil Rights-era notions of “real” Americans and being “not like us.”
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:McCain’s Smear Campaign Will Have an Impact Long After Election Day Talk about the “fierce urgency of now.” While that phrase might have been been adopted by Barack Obama, it is equally suited — albeit differently applied — to describe the destructive campaign being undertaken by John McCain. Because McCain seems to be gunning to win the election, all future consequences be damned. In the last few weeks, with McCain’s poor handling of the financial crisis, poor debate performances, and cynical pick of Sarah Palin as his running mate torpedoing his chances of winning the presidency, McCain unleashed himself and his minions on a dirty and reckless path of attacking Obama with lies, distortions and smears. McCain and Palin both repeatedly invoke socialism when describing Obama’s economic policies, even though you would be hard-pressed to find a reputable economist who would agree with that assertion, at least without lumping every president since Franklin Roosevelt into the socialism club. (And that doesn’t even take into account the most socialism-reminiscent thing to happen in recent history, the bank and corporate bailouts that were supported by George W. Bush and the Republican leaders of Congress. Are they socialists too?) https://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell-bard/mccains-smear-campaign-wi_b_137284.html Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters he UpTake‘s Chuck Olsen interviews author Irwin Tang about his book, “Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters.” McCain first used the work “gook” in the mass media in his 1973 article for U.S. News & World Report. The word appears 12 times in the article and is available online here. Most recently, McCain used the term in his 2000 presidential campaign, as documented by the San Francisco Chronicle. To learn more about Mr. Tang’s book, which also details McCain’s connection to white supremacist groups, visit his web site. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-uptake/gook-john-mccains-racism_b_114401.html Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, September 9, 2018 8:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Again, quoting a "lefty" writer. What gives?
Quote:P.S. You're really reaching way back aren't you.
Sunday, September 9, 2018 11:18 AM
REAVERFAN
Sunday, September 9, 2018 11:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: I'm still looking for all these "lefties" who love McCain. Not seeing them.
Quote:Soon after the announcement of Sen. John McCain’s death, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer came out with a striking suggestion to rename the Russell Senate Office Building after the late Arizona senator. It would be a dramatic step, to be sure. There aren’t many congressional office buildings around, and a lot of noteworthy senators from American history lack formal commemoration. But it also seems like an elegant solution to the somewhat embarrassing reality that even though former Sen. Richard Russell (D-GA) was an iconic figure in his day, he was also an arch-segregationist and the key legislative leader of the white supremacist movement in America during its final two decades of formal high-level political authority. Simply swapping out Russell for a more conventional liberal Democrat (Ted Kennedy, say) would be a hard sell in a polarized environment. But why not swap out a Democrat whom contemporary Democrats don’t like for a Republican who is broadly respected on both sides of the aisle? The fact that honoring McCain serves as a sub rosa way of slamming President Donald Trump — and the fact that Trump is clearly annoyed by the impulse to honor McCain — only makes it all the better.
Sunday, September 9, 2018 11:43 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, September 9, 2018 12:05 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: I'm still looking for all these "lefties" who love McCain. Not seeing them. It would help if you'd open your eyes. Just look at all the "folks" defending the McCain "legacy", and take a gander at Ocasio- Cortez' tribute to John McCain, warmonger. https://ijr.com/2018/08/1119016-ocasio-cortez-john-mccain/
Quote: I'm still looking for all these "lefties" who love McCain. Not seeing them.
Sunday, September 9, 2018 12:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: "Jane you ignorant slut" Dan Aykroyd, SNL, circa 1970s Richard M. Walden is a Los Angeles-based civil rights lawyer who served on active duty in the US Army in 1968-1969. Hey Six, the writer of said article is a "lefty" - kind of shoots holes in your little, puny rant. Besides McCain was a devout conservative. We do have a consolation prize though.....tickets to Trump's 2021 Inauguration, Bwahhahaha!!! sgg Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: On the Leftists newest "Hero", John McCain... As described in 2008 by the Huffington Post. Quote:McCain’s “heroism” stems uniquely from the fact that he was an obstreperous prisoner of war unwilling to cooperate with his captors. Undeniably thugs, McCain’s jailers resembled the jailers at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in their sadism and lack of respect for international conventions guaranteeing rights to enemy combatants. That he refused an early release and was not “broken” by his captors does not make him George Washington, Sergeant York or even Audie Murphy. McCain’s earlier and post-War years were ones of privilege, stature and mischief. He was by his own and all other accounts a cocky, drunken, gambling, whore mongering flyboy whose positions before and after the Vietnam War were arranged for by his family connections. His years as Naval Liaison to the US Senate allowed him to charm and ingratiate himself in the corridors of power which led to a vacant House seat being arranged for him in Arizona, where he had never visited let alone lived. His family’s DNA is war. The McCain family history of grandfather, father, McCain himself and now his son being at war is essential to understanding his psyche. He is Sparta and the rest of us are Athens. A President McCain could well lead to the end of The American Century. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-walden/et-tu-mccain_b_97988.html Plenty more where this came from. The Leftist's hypocrisy knows no bounds. I'm just getting started.
Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:45 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Jack THANK YOU for posting such an illustrative set of posts. I've become beyond tired from explaining to the people here that the democratic party is now the war and Deep State party (and maybe even an arm of Likud) - in complete contradiction to its earlier principles as a peace party working toward the good of the people. And watching democrats praise McCain was like watching some perverted ritual. I thought that your set of posts made an unmistakably obvious point. But I had no idea the people here were so far gone they couldn't grasp such a clear set of facts. Now I know the depths of idiocy those people have been reduced to. It's become unambiguous that rabid, unthinking, virulent partisanship is what people are being propagandized in to, so they can be used against Trump to undo a democratic election.
Monday, September 10, 2018 2:28 AM
Quote:In the final battle there will be several symbols to signify the spiritual and earthly battles. The church can choose to resist Babylon and follow the Lamb or follow the Beast and suffer defeat.
Quote:Revelation 12.22 A great sign appeared in heaven a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; and she was with child, and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Jack THANK YOU for posting such an illustrative set of posts. I've become beyond tired from explaining to the people here that the democratic party is now the war and Deep State party (and maybe even an arm of Likud) - in complete contradiction to its earlier principles as a peace party working toward the good of the people. And watching democrats praise McCain was like watching some perverted ritual. I thought that your set of posts made an unmistakably obvious point. But I had no idea the people here were so far gone they couldn't grasp such a clear set of facts. Now I know the depths of idiocy those people have been reduced to. It's become unambiguous that rabid, unthinking, virulent partisanship is what people are being propagandized in to, so they can be used against Trump to undo a democratic election.
Monday, September 10, 2018 2:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'll sum up the fact that the point of this thread completely went over SGG's head with this single quote he put here: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Again, quoting a "lefty" writer. What gives? Of course. Not only were they all "Lefty writers", but they all came from uber-left-wing site Huffington Post. As for your last question, in a postscript... Quote:P.S. You're really reaching way back aren't you. That was my other point. I've said on several occasions in here that in order for Leftists to be as hypocritical as they are, they need to have a terrible memory or intentionally forget what they said just yesterday, let alone a decade ago. So I can imagine how much it bothers you that I'm showing you stuff from 10 years ago that was said about McCain when he was running for office against Obama by the very same Leftists that are calling him a Hero today. Oops. Sorry to bring up Obama here. I know how off limits that is with you. But do realize that he has no blame here other than the fact that he was running for president on the Democratic ticket at the time. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, September 10, 2018 3:09 AM
Thursday, September 13, 2018 6:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Please. Do elaborate on what is amusing about this, because I'm not laughing. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: The irony of your claim that your little contribution went over my head, no Six, dead wrong...this is so far beneath me. sgg Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Please. Do elaborate on what is amusing about this, because I'm not laughing. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, September 14, 2018 2:21 AM
Quote:first off, no matter how you look at this situation there is no irony
Quote:"In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disasters under the Republicans."
Quote:"Hillary's always surrounded herself with very good people. I think Hillary would do a good job."
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: The irony of your claim that your little contribution went over my head, no Six, dead wrong...this is so far beneath me. sgg Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Please. Do elaborate on what is amusing about this, because I'm not laughing. Do Right, Be Right. :) Well... first off, no matter how you look at this situation there is no irony, so I have no idea what you really mean about that. Second, you chided me once for quoting a lefty like I wasn't aware of that fact, and then gave me detailed information proving it was a lefty writer. The very next post you say "what gives" when you realize another one was a lefty. And finally, the main point about this thread was showing just how hypocritical the Left is and giving undeniable evidence of it, and you have yet to even give your opinion about that. So far, all I've received from you is criticism that was off base because you didn't understand the point of the thread, and then a statement saying that this is beneath you to even talk about it. I consider the horse led to water. Not my responsibility to see to it that you drink my friend. Do enjoy those blinders you're wearing. It's a pity if you really don't take some time to understand where I'm coming from. You're one of the only regular lefties on this board that I wouldn't outright call a Leftist. I think it's a shame that you could allow the current political climate to shut your mind so tightly that you aren't even open to looking at things that don't fit into the Leftist's current narrative. Especially when I've just provided so many examples of where the Left were at 10 years ago when I agreed with them on nearly everything. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, September 14, 2018 4:01 AM
Friday, September 14, 2018 7:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Okay Six, I guess I need to elaborate, as you have requested, otherwise you will think that you "pulled the wool over my eyes" (as the expression goes). You claim that "lefties" are hypocrites because 10 years ago a couple of journalists wrote damning articles as to McCain's military and personal life, a criticism that he himself has admitted to. And, as part of this claim, it is your belief that "lefties" have easily abandoned their beliefs and criticisms of McCain and others like him, thereby exposing their flimsy character flaw, namely being a hypocrite. First of all, let's forget about the irony. Second, there is a method to my madness, I chide (as you stated) and said "what gives" because I wanted to know from you directly what you actually wanted to say. I assumed, from your first four posts (with no commentary on your part as to your reasoning), that your angle would be criticism of today's "lefties" as hypocrites due to the aforementioned articles. I did "chide" to spark a conversation as to your take on the subject. And here we are. I don't mean to be too harsh, but well, forget that. I find it a bit of a stretch that you "showed" anything other than your ability to copy and paste. You offered nothing in the way of underscoring your point that "lefties" are hypocrites. Not one word, until now. So I offer up my opinion. I totally got your point based upon your posting the articles and knowing q little about your attitude towards left-leaning thinkers. So I poked a little to see what gives with your opinion.
Quote:Yes, those articles spoke to a mentality of righteous indignation toward an individual who displayed anti-social behavior. Was it due to his privileged upbringing? Or was it his rebellious spirit protesting the very nature of that upbringing? Who cares? He did what he did. Fuck John McCain, the man who did all those hateful, awful things to other human beings. Yes, he was a horrible human being and a stain on the otherwise spotless record of his family (or so they would have you think). Rich people have a big nerve, and a tendency, to hide anything negative to show how wonderful they are. Bullshit!
Quote:By the way, you never present in any of your posts just who these lefties are that so praise McCain. Not even those lefty journalists that you quote here. Posting a bunch of articles and then not backing your claims with clear arguments and your general points of view, well, it's just lacking my friend.
Quote:What took place at the Hanoi Hilton may have been poetic justice, or Karma, or McCain looking to show his father that he had the right stuff. Yes, he was a racist scumbag. But something happened to him during his 5 year "vacation" at the Hilton. And then again, maybe not. Again, who gives a shit. This man put his life on the line, because, well does that matter really? You name it, that's a reason. But he showed balls. More than I could say about others, but show them he did...and what do we do? We condemn him, spit on him and call him "not a hero" because he was captured.
Quote:Okay, all those things. But that was then, this is now. Sure he played fast and loose with politics, with Obama. I was not fond of him or his tactics. Nor did I agree with his politics, not all the time. But I loved it when he stuck it to Trump during the ACA/Obamacare vote. Fuck yeah! Trump had to eat shit, big time. McCain was a complicated man. Flawed in every way. Opportunistic, egotistical and oftentimes arrogant. But he did not take shit from nobody. I admire that. And during the campaign he straightened out that lady at a rally about Obama being a muslim. He could have easily agreed with her and went about his business. That, what he did, takes guts. It takes character. It made me rethink how I thought of John McCain. You and your comrades might not think so, but he laid his life on the line for you, me, Kiki, Siggy, etc.
Quote:We can go on RWED and talk shit, all because he, and people like him, lay it on the line. Setting aside politics for a moment, which I protest against on occasion, we live our lives. So giving a man respect for his sacrifice is the least I could do. You and the others don't agree, that's alright it's a FREE country.
Quote: Trump once was a Democrat. In an interview with Wolf Blitzer, circa 2004, he said: Quote:"In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disasters under the Republicans." In another interview with CNN's Blitzer in 2007, he praised Hillary Clinton's ability to negotiate when asked if she could successfully work out a deal with Iran. Quote:"Hillary's always surrounded herself with very good people. I think Hillary would do a good job." Do the above statements, Trump praising Hillary, make him a lying scumbag lefty hypocrite? According to you and Kiki, yes. Was Trump a different man back in 2004 and 2007? Or did he just follow the tried and true methods of modern-day politics. If he lied then, do you think he lies now?
Friday, September 14, 2018 8:19 AM
Friday, September 14, 2018 9:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him.
Sunday, September 16, 2018 5:26 AM
Sunday, September 16, 2018 5:33 AM
Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: There's so much to unpack here. I will respond in due time, I have to. SGG
Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him. lol... Do me a favor and give me some info on how many prior high ranking politicians have died in the last 30 years and received more than a mere mention after their passing in the media. Democrat or Republican. It makes no matter. You'd think that it was JFK passing all over again with the media coverage of McCain's death. The reasons for that are glaringly obvious. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him. lol... Do me a favor and give me some info on how many prior high ranking politicians have died in the last 30 years and received more than a mere mention after their passing in the media. Democrat or Republican. It makes no matter. You'd think that it was JFK passing all over again with the media coverage of McCain's death. The reasons for that are glaringly obvious. Do Right, Be Right. :) I, too, was a bit puzzled at the length of the send-off. It was like Reagan. They took forever to bury the guy. I suppose it's just media rewarding a warmonger for making them so rich, and giving them wars to cheerlead.
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 2:45 AM
Quote:since it was one of his few comments made in the RWED that weren't insulting. I'm alright with having different opinions. That's what human beings do.
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 4:17 AM
Quote:I would have thought from my many other recent posts that I was being very clear about showing Leftist hypocrisy by posting those links from trash "news" sites like Huffington Post and Vox 10 years ago as opposed to now.
Quote:Then again, YOU aren't one of the people I had in mind when I posted it. We've gone through this all before, several times, but I'll take a moment to try to make myself clear again...
Quote:I DON'T lump you in with Second and T and G and Reaverfan. I didn't before, and I still don't. That being said, I would appreciate it if you stop associating me with others and calling people my comrades.
Quote:Right. Fuck John McCain. Nothing has changed. He was a garbage human being.
Quote:I'm referring again to the people who work at trash news sites like Huffington Post, Vox and Mother Jones. The "Alex Joneses" of the Left. Again, I make a clear distinction between you and them. I don't do that with others that post here because they mindlessly and rabidly quote anything these types of outfits claim on a daily basis and are completely closed minded to any conversations on the topics. Usually you don't automatically jump to insults, but I have to say it has become more frequent recently and I don't appreciate it much.
Quote:Just being captured doesn't make you a hero. Maybe he did other things during his service that exhibited some hero like characteristics. Maybe while he was in he didn't talk while he was tortured. None of us are going to know the truth. Overpaid and overprivlidged assholes from both sides have equal and opposite things to say about it.
Quote:I really don't give a shit about whether he was a "hero" or not during the war. All of that happened long before I was born. Since I've been old enough to be aware of all things political, he has been a neo-con warhawk piece of shit. That nullifies any hero like qualities he may have once had in his youth.
Quote:Maybe he did. I dunno. Like I said, that was a LONG time ago, and a story about how he one time stood up to a racist old lady and the PR points he won by jumping on the bandwagon and bashing Trump don't make up for all of the horrible decisions he has made in his political career.
Quote:I'm going to separate the solder from the monster he became once he entered the political arena. Thanks for your service, Johnny boy. It is a shame what you became in your old age.
Quote:I just don't understand why we need to take stuff out of context and make up stories about him on a daily basis when there are very legitimate and very provable things we can agree upon and call him on his bullshit.
Quote:I'm going to ask that you do a little real thinking on all of this man. You're one of the reasonable ones. One of many, likely.
Quote:The world needs a little more balance and rational thought.
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:13 AM
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: I can see that you want to make a statement, sometimes I post things without offering up any commentary.
Quote:I do that because I find you following their lead at times. I don’t rightly care much if you do. I personally don’t like to be bullied into “Hive mind” thinking. I will observe a contribution by an intelligent Human and follow their lead when what they say makes sense. But I will fight like hell whenever someone tries to impose their will against that which I believe. You have every right to do as you see fit, but don’t try to force feed me a load of crap and call it a gourmet meal. I know that I shouldn’t give two fucks about ignorant people Insulting me and calling me names, but sometimes I think it requires a response. Both barrels!!! Having said that; I will refrain from lumping you in with others from here on out.
Quote:I beg to differ. Like I said, he laid it on the line. Being captured is a casualty of war, but make no mistake being out there means you're sacrificing yourself for the sake of others. You're taking one for the team. Now, I may not agree with it, but there you have it. I hate war, but sometimes it's necessary, especially when you fight for your freedom. Not in the way you think, but the freedom to live your life. To have a "bully" free zone.
Quote:Well, all those things are true (to some extent), but there's more here than meets the eye. Like I've said before, he is a flawed man. One of the reasons why Trump hated him (and Obama) is because he is so much better than that POS. Trump is shit and he despises anyone who has integrity. A man of integrity is far from perfect, but every once in a while they get it right - for the right reasons. Trump couldn't find integrity if he was given a map and a flashlight.
Quote:You see, that's what you believe. I have a different approach. For me, his vote to save Obamacare, makes up for all his mistakes. Fucking awesome!
Quote:I could easily accept that point of view; It is what you believe. Nothing wrong with that, because what I believe is that you can separate those two things. I'm not kissing his ass, I'm just showing respect for putting it down (serving). I hated his campaign run and his choice for running mate, plus I hated how he ran his campaign.
Quote:Exactly how I feel about Trump. The above comment was about McCain, right!?
Quote:Amen to that. You'll notice, I took out that "joining crazies" crack. I figured that a man who asks not to be labeled and lumped in with others, would want to do the same, so as to instill some "balance and rational thought" on the RWED.
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Face it, Jack. You got your ass handed to you, yet again.
Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Face it, Jack. You got your ass handed to you, yet again. I haven't lost an argument in here since January of 2017, bud. Keep living in that little fantasy world of yours and you're going to end up with a very rude awakening one day. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, September 20, 2018 8:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Face it, Jack. You got your ass handed to you, yet again. I haven't lost an argument in here since January of 2017, bud. Keep living in that little fantasy world of yours and you're going to end up with a very rude awakening one day. Do Right, Be Right. :) Dude, you wouldn't last 2 seconds. You're a fucking invalid.
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