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The ACTUAL War on Women : Brandeis University
Saturday, April 12, 2014 12:48 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:40 PM
KANEMAN
Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:52 PM
Monday, April 14, 2014 8:42 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Quote:Excerpt: One year ago, the city and suburbs of Boston were still in mourning. Families who only weeks earlier had children and siblings to hug were left with only photographs and memories. Still others were hovering over bedsides, watching as young men, women, and children endured painful surgeries and permanent disfiguration. All because two brothers, radicalized by jihadist websites, decided to place homemade bombs in backpacks near the finish line of one of the most prominent events in American sports, the Boston Marathon. All of you in the Class of 2014 will never forget that day and the days that followed. You will never forget when you heard the news, where you were, or what you were doing. And when you return here, 10, 15 or 25 years from now, you will be reminded of it. The bombs exploded just 10 miles from this campus. I read an article recently that said many adults don't remember much from before the age of 8. That means some of your earliest childhood memories may well be of that September morning simply known as "9/11." You deserve better memories than 9/11 and the Boston Marathon bombing. And you are not the only ones. In Syria, at least 120,000 people have been killed, not simply in battle, but in wholesale massacres, in a civil war that is increasingly waged across a sectarian divide. Violence is escalating in Iraq, in Lebanon, in Libya, in Egypt. And far more than was the case when you were born, organized violence in the world today is disproportionately concentrated in the Muslim world. Another striking feature of the countries I have just named, and of the Middle East generally, is that violence against women is also increasing. In Saudi Arabia, there has been a noticeable rise in the practice of female genital mutilation. In Egypt, 99% of women report being sexually harassed and up to 80 sexual assaults occur in a single day. Especially troubling is the way the status of women as second-class citizens is being cemented in legislation. In Iraq, a law is being proposed that lowers to 9 the legal age at which a girl can be forced into marriage. That same law would give a husband the right to deny his wife permission to leave the house. Sadly, the list could go on. I hope I speak for many when I say that this is not the world that my generation meant to bequeath yours. When you were born, the West was jubilant, having defeated Soviet communism. An international coalition had forced Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. The next mission for American armed forces would be famine relief in my homeland of Somalia. There was no Department of Homeland Security, and few Americans talked about terrorism. Two decades ago, not even the bleakest pessimist would have anticipated all that has gone wrong in the part of world where I grew up. After so many victories for feminism in the West, no one would have predicted that women's basic human rights would actually be reduced in so many countries as the 20th century gave way to the 21st. Today, however, I am going to predict a better future, because I believe that the pendulum has swung almost as far as it possibly can in the wrong direction. When I see millions of women in Afghanistan defying threats from the Taliban and lining up to vote; when I see women in Saudi Arabia defying an absurd ban on female driving; and when I see Tunisian women celebrating the conviction of a group of policemen for a heinous gang rape, I feel more optimistic than I did a few years ago. The misnamed Arab Spring has been a revolution full of disappointments. But I believe it has created an opportunity for traditional forms of authority—including patriarchal authority—to be challenged, and even for the religious justifications for the oppression of women to be questioned. Yet for that opportunity to be fulfilled, we in the West must provide the right kind of encouragement. Just as the city of Boston was once the cradle of a new ideal of liberty, we need to return to our roots by becoming once again a beacon of free thought and civility for the 21st century. When there is injustice, we need to speak out, not simply with condemnation, but with concrete actions. One of the best places to do that is in our institutions of higher learning. We need to make our universities temples not of dogmatic orthodoxy, but of truly critical thinking, where all ideas are welcome and where civil debate is encouraged. I'm used to being shouted down on campuses, so I am grateful for the opportunity to address you today. I do not expect all of you to agree with me, but I very much appreciate your willingness to listen.
Monday, April 14, 2014 9:01 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by KANEMAN: There is no war on women. Period.
Monday, April 14, 2014 9:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: One can only wonder why Libtards support and defend these savage neanderthals.
Monday, April 14, 2014 9:10 PM
Monday, April 14, 2014 9:29 PM
Monday, April 14, 2014 9:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: And what about Gays in the Muslim world? Since being gay is a genetic thing as opposed to a choice, one can reasonably assume there are at least 100 million gays and lesbians living within Islamist countries. Not being able to get married to another gay person is probably the least of their problems. Yet we don't ever hear much from them on how they just simply get by in their lives.
Monday, April 14, 2014 9:46 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, April 14, 2014 9:53 PM
Monday, April 14, 2014 10:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: ^^ I applaud your courage to acknowledge the problems, and I admire your originality. But I believe Muslim women in Islamic countries have been so sytematically brutalized all their lives that they would vouch for every single monster that ever laid hands on them. Like Patty Hearst Syndrome on steroids.
Monday, April 14, 2014 11:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: I don't know, given the brief chance to say a final goodbye to fiend with no ramifications, I'd bet you'd get a lot more "I don't know this man"s than you think.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:02 AM
Quote: Seems we can make Christians make and sell gay wedding cakes and take gay wedding photos ... You have a cite for that? Try keeping up w/ current events.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So the answer is no. You know, you have multiple posts over multiple threads where you make many claims for which you have provided exactly zero evidence. Past this point, you're just going to get my standard reply to idiocy.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:40 PM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So the answer is no. You know, you have multiple posts over multiple threads where you make many claims for which you have provided exactly zero evidence. Past this point, you're just going to get my standard reply to idiocy. You enjoy being shown to be a complete and utter fool, don't you ? Very well. Colorado's Masterpiece Cakeshop At Center Of Gay Rights Battle LAKEWOOD, Colo. (AP) — The encounter at Jack Phillips' Masterpiece Cakeshop lasted less than a minute. Phillips stepped out from behind the counter in his small, pastry-crammed shop to meet customers Charlie Craig and Dave Mullins. They told him they wanted a cake to celebrate their own marriage. Phillips replied he couldn't, but that he'd be glad to make one for other occasions, such as birthdays. Left unsaid was how making a gay wedding cake would violate his Christian faith, how he does not make ones for Halloween or bachelor parties, either. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/06/gay-wedding-cake-cause_n_5100645.html Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts. " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by M52NICKERSON: The original post has nothing to do with her being a women, it is about her views on a major world religion. The above needs to get filed under "welcome to anti-discrimination laws".
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: As the so called ' war on women ' is itself a wholly concocted and contrived political ploy, Oh, and there actually IS a legitimate "War on Women "
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:42 PM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: As the so called ' war on women ' is itself a wholly concocted and contrived political ploy, Oh, and there actually IS a legitimate "War on Women " You are too funny, man.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:59 PM
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by M52NICKERSON: The original post has nothing to do with her being a women, it is about her views on a major world religion. The above needs to get filed under "welcome to anti-discrimination laws". As the so called ' war on women ' is itself a wholly concocted and contrived political ploy, the OP is every bit as valid in being described as such. Oh, and there actually IS a legitimate "War on Women ", by Islam. And Ms Ali is living proof.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by M52NICKERSON: When you have a group trying to pass restrictions that only effect women...fuck it! This has been explained to you a few times.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Yeah, chuckle worthy.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:32 PM
Quote: You are right that is some Islamic countries women are not treated fairly. However they (women) are not treated fairly is some non-Islamic countries as well.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: And that's where I have a problem w/ the Left's contrived ' war on women ' crap. It's beyond over the top hyperbole, which ignores ACTUAL abuses and injustices
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: And that's where I have a problem w/ the Left's contrived ' war on women ' crap. It's beyond over the top hyperbole, which ignores ACTUAL abuses and injusticesNo, no, you're correct. If I were a woman, I'd rather be raped in America & told I must by LAW carry and birth the child of my attacker than be beaten every day of my life in Saudi Arabia. You dumass.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Exactly where in the US is that law on the books, here in the US ?
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Exactly where in the US is that law on the books, here in the US ?In the US... here in the US... Au, I think you need some sleep based on today's posts.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by M52NICKERSON: The original post has nothing to do with her being a women, it is about her views on a major world religion. The above needs to get filed under "welcome to anti-discrimination laws".
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So the answer is no. You know, you have multiple posts over multiple threads where you make many claims for which you have provided exactly zero evidence. Past this point, you're just going to get my standard reply to idiocy. Quote: Seems we can make Christians make and sell gay wedding cakes and take gay wedding photos ... You have a cite for that?
Quote: Seems we can make Christians make and sell gay wedding cakes and take gay wedding photos ...
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:42 PM
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 7:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: You still did not answer, regardless of how I butchered the question.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: You still did not answer, regardless of how I butchered the question. That law & laws just like it are being worked on with God's own fervour. You can be sure many places will pass one, not Federally though (I hope). I'm not gonna bother with links to Republicans stating why these laws should be enacted 'cause you'll just dismiss them for whatever reason.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: You would know, since you bail from threads all the time when asked direct questions.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I fully agree that the life which comes from the case of rape is indeed innocent.
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:15 PM
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Get down with your eugenic self!
Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:26 PM
Quote:Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Colorado's Masterpiece Cakeshop At Center Of Gay Rights Battle LAKEWOOD, Colo. (AP) — The encounter at Jack Phillips' Masterpiece Cakeshop lasted less than a minute. Phillips stepped out from behind the counter in his small, pastry-crammed shop to meet customers Charlie Craig and Dave Mullins. They told him they wanted a cake to celebrate their own marriage. Phillips replied he couldn't, but that he'd be glad to make one for other occasions, such as birthdays. Left unsaid was how making a gay wedding cake would violate his Christian faith, how he does not make ones for Halloween or bachelor parties, either.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Colorado's Masterpiece Cakeshop At Center Of Gay Rights Battle LAKEWOOD, Colo. (AP) — The encounter at Jack Phillips' Masterpiece Cakeshop lasted less than a minute. Phillips stepped out from behind the counter in his small, pastry-crammed shop to meet customers Charlie Craig and Dave Mullins. They told him they wanted a cake to celebrate their own marriage. Phillips replied he couldn't, but that he'd be glad to make one for other occasions, such as birthdays. Left unsaid was how making a gay wedding cake would violate his Christian faith, how he does not make ones for Halloween or bachelor parties, either.
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:20 AM
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Nothing debunks So immature or insecure you were wrong, and I am right.
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:16 AM
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Nothing debunks So immature or insecure you were wrong, and I am right. Get this boy a bib. He needs his Mama.
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Why ? Because I'm right
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:02 AM
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: No. It's not a diaper rash, you poopy face.
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:21 AM
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Nuh uh! You're diaper rash. You try Desitin.
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Nuh uh! You're diaper rash. You try Desitin.Do you have any idea how FOOLISH you look here???? (I'm not lookin' too good my own self...)
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Its these amazingly bone headed stands he takes that makes it impossible to take ANYTHING he says seriously, even on the (extremely) rare occasion that he actually has a decent point.
Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Its these amazingly bone headed stands he takes that makes it impossible to take ANYTHING he says seriously, even on the (extremely) rare occasion that he actually has a decent point. I can see it now, at the bottom: "he actually has a decent point."- Storymark 2014
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