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How to destroy a 9/11 Truther: Give him a cop's gun and shoot him dead at the Pentagon

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Monday, February 22, 2010 4:01 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Monday, February 22, 2010 4:44 AM

HERO


The best way to destroy a truther is to let them talk.

Also works for 'birthers', Global Warming types, and Michael Moore.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Monday, February 22, 2010 5:08 AM

BYTEMITE


I don't really understand why anyone thinks any conspiracy theory needs to be "destroyed."

The facts and data will always speak for themselves, whether in proving a conspiracy theory wrong and discrediting the supporters, or in validating the conspiracy theory. I think it's best to keep an open mind, tempered with skepticism.

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Monday, February 22, 2010 7:21 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yep to both of you. PN: Go hunt up and post more idiocy; at least it keeps you busy.



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Monday, February 22, 2010 7:48 AM

BYTEMITE


Remember what I said about keeping an open mind? Hell, I'm more of a truther than I am not a truther.

The 9-11 victims I think are real, I don't put it past our government to hurt or kill American civilians. Most of us are just faceless labour force anyway to TPTB.

But do I think it's possible our government could have contributed to the events of 9-11 beyond sheer incompetence? Yes. Kind of like how one might begin to wonder whether Katrina was incompetence, or willful neglect. And maybe more than that. It's a deep rabbit hole.

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Monday, February 22, 2010 9:03 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I'd say it was more than just sheer incompetence that allowed 9/11 to happen in the first place, and it started at the top, when Bush was specifically warned about Bin Laden's plan to use commercial aircraft as weapons in a strike on U.S. soil, and told the messenger, "Okay, you've covered your ass now" and dismissed him.

It wasn't just incompetence; it was also willful ignorance.

Mike

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Monday, February 22, 2010 9:07 AM

NIKI2

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I agree; willful neglect AND willful ignorance.



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Monday, February 22, 2010 9:23 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I'm less a truther, myself. But it was easy to see how opportunistic the Bush administration was in the wake of 9/11. As they say, never let a crisis go by...

Mike

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Monday, February 22, 2010 10:39 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Tiny flaw = all wrong

Like how the tiniest discrepancy or misstatement about what happened on that chaotic day means someone MUST be lying ? CONSPIRACY!!


Kinda wish these nut cases would take their own advice.



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Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first.

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Monday, February 22, 2010 11:05 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Yes, all it takes is 5 minutes reviewing a Debunker website or reading Popular Mechanics and you too can be an expert on 9/11 Bunk!



1,000 Architects & Engineers Call for New 9/11 Investigation

PR Newswire
February 19, 2010
www.ae911truth.org

SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 19 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Richard Gage, AIA, architect and founder of the non-profit Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Inc. (AE911Truth), will announce a decisive milestone today at a press conference in San Francisco, as more than 1,000 worldwide architects and engineers now support the call for a new investigation into the destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7 at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. After careful examination of the official explanation, along with the forensic data omitted from official reports, these professionals have concluded that a new independent investigation into these mysterious collapses is needed.

Mr. Gage will deliver the news around this major development, accompanied by signers of the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth petition. The press conference will be held concurrently in 38 cities in 6 countries.

http://www.ae911truth.org/info/160

These prominent architectural and engineering professionals will discuss the organization’s findings and concerns. A brief presentation of the explosive evidence they have compiled will be followed by Q & A. The presentation is an important update of “9/11: Blueprint for Truth – The Architecture of Destruction,” the DVD produced by the organization, and available on their website AE911Truth.org, which analyzes the scientific forensic evidence concluding that the three skyscrapers in New York City were demolished with explosives on 9/11. The petition will be delivered today to every congressional representative by AE911Truth petition signers throughout the country. Government officials will be notified that “Misprision of Treason”, US Code 18 (Sec. 2382), is a serious federal offense which requires those with evidence of treason to act.

Gage and his group base their conclusions on forensic evidence. Gage states, “The official FEMA and NIST reports provide insufficient, contradictory, and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers’ destruction. We are therefore calling for a grand jury investigation of NIST officials. Gage points out the destruction of the third high-rise, World Trade Center 7, a 47-story skyscraper which was not hit by an aircraft, yet came down in pure free-fall acceleration for more than 100 feet, a significant fact that NIST has been forced to admit, due to research conducted by AE911Truth petition signers. Other disturbing facts emerging from the forensic evidence include:

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Complete destruction of both Twin Towers in just 10 to 14 seconds at near free-fall acceleration
Over 100 first-responder reports of explosions and flashes at onset of destruction

Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft at 60 mph

Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking

1200-foot-dia. debris field: no “pancaked” floors seen in the debris pile




Several tons of molten metal found in debris.



Evidence of advanced explosive nano-thermitic composite material found in the WTC dust by an international team of scientists.

AE911Truth’s conclusions are shared by thousands of scientists; senior-level military, intelligence and government officials; pilots and aviation professionals; firefighters; scholars and university professors; and 9/11 survivors and their family members. The implications are enormous and may have profound impact on the forthcoming Khalid Sheikh Mohammed trial.

The 9/11 Truth Movement, which Time magazine in 2006 called “a mainstream political reality,” continues to gain momentum. As AE911Truth’s own influence grows, Gage has embarked on well over 130 speaking events, covering 20 states and 13 countries, including Australia, New Zealand, and Japan. He has been interviewed by media around the world – including the BBC, CBC, NatGeo, and Fox TV.

SOURCE Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Inc.


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Monday, February 22, 2010 11:43 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


It seems conspiracy theories thrive in an environment where everybody has been primed to believe in fairytales like the judging god sitting in heaven watching over us, angels and ghosts and other nonsense. If you are taught such stuff and don't question it, your power of reasoning is seriously flawed and you'll believe anything if enough people say it convincingly enough.

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Monday, February 22, 2010 11:59 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
you'll believe anything if enough people say it convincingly enough.

Please, MD, try not to belittle others' dopey beliefs. Okay?

As far as the topic at hand goes, now that Obama is in the White House & everything is same ole' same ole', I'm prepared to believe almost anything.
I'll listen to all evidence, at any rate.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, February 22, 2010 12:06 PM

BYTEMITE


I'm an atheist and a scientist, I don't believe in angels, ghosts, magic, fairies, chupacabras, sasquatch, aliens, psychic powers, or anything of the sort.

But when it comes to allegations of government abuse, I take that very seriously. Are they allegations? Of course! But being that I'm cynical and untrusting, and that I think there could be sufficient motive to stir up war in the Middle East, I am skeptical of official stories. Magonsdaughter, if you think that the American people are nuts compared to the Australian people, just think of how nuts our government must be compared to yours.

I don't think the twin towers was a controlled detonation, either. But the terrorists, the apparent ease of the hijacking, the government seeming to do NOTHING to stop it... I mean, seriously, what the HELL? Plus things I've heard about the first WTC bombing. I just don't put anything past the American government. I want to err on the side of caution.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:10 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Byte, I don't think Americans are more nuts, okay not that much more nuts . Conspiracy theories are popular here as well.

I don't count corruption and opportunism the same as conspiracy theories, and I don't discount all conspiracy theories either, but I do dislike and despair the propagation of the sort of mad fantasies that PN and his ilk post, backed up by other links to other equally silly conspiracy theory sites and assuming that somehow this all adds up to convincing fact.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:02 AM

FREMDFIRMA


There's that, but the problem is unanswered questions and outright deceit tend to feed this mess.

Case in point, what about the Odigo warning ?
Who made the stock trades ?
Why did the media report the collapse of one of those buildings before it actually happened ?

Stuff like that, which when pressed, is ignored, or responded to with ridiculous faery stories which fall apart on the slightest examination.

What REALLY pisses me off though, is when folk go dismissing something as "Conspiracy Theory" when I am standing there with hard evidence in my very hand, like the radio logs and video footage of other devices being removed and disarmed from INSIDE the Murrah Federal Building.

Or the actual testimony of Emad Salem, in relation to exactly where and how Khalid Shiek Mohammeds goons got the freaking bomb, corroborated by the related case files.

But yes, it annoys me almost as much when someone takes the minimal evidence and starts making wild suppositions instead of asking the right questions and sticking with known facts, cause that discredits any investigation and poisons the well, something often enough done *deliberately* as a form of retroactive ass covering by the agencies responsible for either aiding and abetting, or outright incompetence.

The problem is that neither truthers, nor deniers, seem to give a fuck about the evidence or solving the problems that LEAD to these kinda disasters so much as "winning" the argument against each other - something also prevalent within global climate/environmentalist discussions.

From my perspective most of this conspiracy stuff boils down to cause and effect, you DO things, other things follow, naturally as day follows dawn - you act like a total dick to the rest of the planet, they're going to wish you dead and some of em might try, you go giving unlimited power and budgets to idealogical crazy folk with no oversight, they're going to do wacky shit with it, and you put badly broken, authoritarian personality types in positions of power, they will push as hard as they can for an iron fisted dictatorship.

The how and the why aren't NEARLY so important as recognizing and dealing with the social problems which forment conspiracies in the first goddamn place...

But hey, what do I know, I only been doin this for thirty years....


-F

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:29 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
It seems conspiracy theories thrive in an environment where everybody has been primed to believe in fairytales like the judging god sitting in heaven watching over us, angels and ghosts and other nonsense. If you are taught such stuff and don't question it, your power of reasoning is seriously flawed and you'll believe anything if enough people say it convincingly enough.


If that was true then there would be conspiracy theories about everything. You describe ancient Greece perfectly...don't tell me your one of those Hercules birthers (legenday Greek son of Zeus actually born in Macedonia) or Seige of Troy truthers (Helen was in on 'it', there were only 867 ships, the Giant Horse was piloted by Martianlamic facisist extemists, Achillies was assanated by Dick Cheney)...

H

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:32 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


What nobody noticed about the architects thing is that it's being held in San Francisco. San Francisco, CALIFORNIA. The crazies state, remember? And yes we ARE in some cases.

I don't think, Magon, that it's as much a matter of people believing in fairytales, etc., as it is a situation where the people have come to trust the government less and less, so get more and more paranoid about what it might be doing. The Dumbya years were RIPE for that!

The other pertinent thing, to ME, is that whether I believe or not, nothing will happen about it. If we can't even get the Dumbya elections looked into seriously, and we all KNOW the first one at least was a fraud, and the torturers are being shoved under the rug, when that's public knowledge, how far do you think anyone would get actually getting any action on theses?

To me, it's history. Beyond that, it's not worth my time.



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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:25 AM

PIRATENEWS

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If you won't speak 9/11 Truth, then you won't defend yourself and your family from any of the other 1,000 attacks on your health, wealth and freedom. Like that TV show, 1,000 Ways To Die.

At least kosher 9/11 NYPD police chief Bernie Kerick was sent to prison for 5 years:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/nyregion/19kerik.html




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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:34 AM

RUE

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"I don't think, Magon, that it's as much a matter of people believing in fairytales, etc., as it is a situation where the people have come to trust the government less and less, so get more and more paranoid about what it might be doing. The Dumbya years were RIPE for that!"

Maybe it's a bit of both. There are people who believe the earth is flat. There are people who believe the earth is 6,000 years old. It's only a short jump to the people who believe the government is covering up the truth about UFOs. And another short jump to people who think a millennia-old secret group is running the entire planet. And another short jump to those who think rich people are exercising their accumulated power to get richer.

Somewhere in there is a line between fiction and fact, which gets blurred when belief is involved. And we sure have been inculcated with beliefs, which ultimately help destroy critical reasoning. (The other things are unexamined assumptions; and emotion, which drive us in ways we don't recognize.)

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:24 PM

LITTLEBIRD



I'm not sure about the 911 conspiracy stuff. I would not put something like that past our government, but without proof it is merely speculation.

With that in mind, could someone more scientifically inclined explain this to me. Bad science?

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.pro
jectview&upload_id=12387

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM

RUE

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There are many examples of buildings that fail in the 'pancake' mode. Most often you'll see it in earthquakes with buildings of a particular type of structure - called 'tilt-up'. How they are built is that the walls are poured on the ground, then 'tilted up' into place (and propped up with lumber until the next step). The roof is then attached to the walls, it is their attachment to each other which holds the walls and roof in place. Should the ties fail and walls become detached, the roof falls straight down. When multiple stories are built this way, you can have a multiple story pancaking, as the top overloads the next level down, the two then overload the next level down etc.

It's not unheard of. Many of the fatalities in the Mexico City quake were from buildings failing in just this way.

visual example pulled from the internet




From what I understand, the Twin Towers were not built with massive foundations holding things up from the bottom, like, for example, the Empire State Building was. They were held up by the tying together of floors and walls - much like one giant tilt-up.

As to the group that's calling for new investigations, there are similar efforts about global warming, with similar lists - and similar problems. I suspect no one actually screens the wanna-be members to see if they are qualified as they are described.

I personally have no problems with another official investigation. But rather than focus on how the buildings fell, I think it should answer the many unanswered questions about who knew what when.


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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:47 PM

BYTEMITE


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And another short jump to those who think rich people are exercising their accumulated power to get richer.


I find it interesting you list that one AFTER (I assume the list is in order from least crazy to most crazy) what I can only assume is the Illuminati one, which, BTW, is probably crock.

Rich people are trying to get more rich? Seems like an apt description of reality, unless I'm missing something or there's a more subtle reference.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:50 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I think she hid that in there as a nod and a wink, Byte. It's something Rue and Signy often reference, and there are some here who think THEY'RE the crazy ones for seeing it that way.

No matter what the conspiracy theory, there's some who believe it, and some who think it's nuts.

Mike

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:55 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

I personally have no problems with another official investigation. But rather than focus on how the buildings fell, I think it should answer the many unanswered questions about who knew what when.


I do agree with this, Rue. It's physics. Force equals Mass times Acceleration. Force over Area equals Stress. In this case, specifically compressive stress. Changes in mass distribution and load bearing, gravity plus acceleration of falling floors, more force, more stress, more floors failing, pancake collapse.

What I find odd is the reports that metal support structures melted, when supposedly the jet fuel and other materials were burning at too low of temperatures to melt the metal. But I'm not convinced by the explosives explanation. I imagine there is a reasonable explanation for this, just not one that yet satisfies my questions.

But how what why and what people knew? Oh yeah, definately investigate that.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:56 PM

BYTEMITE


Kwicko: I fail reading comprehension forever. :)

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:07 PM

RUE

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Bytemite

There are some people who see NO difference between the Bilderberg conspiracy, the Illuminati conspiracy, the Bohemian Grove conspiracy, or the World Economic Forum meeting at Davos. To them it's all one big conspiracy and every claim no matter how fantastic is some nugget of truth.

I do NOT happen to be one of those.

There ARE real world conspiracies, where rich and powerful people DO get together to try and figure out how to run the world so as to be even more rich and powerful. They DO see themselves as a group with common interests, even as they compete with each other. They do NOT see us as people.

Since, as they say, even paranoids have real enemies, the trick is to figure out the real conspiracy from the phantasms.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:11 PM

RUE

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"What I find odd is the reports that metal support structures melted, when supposedly the jet fuel and other materials were burning at too low of temperatures to melt the metal."

As I understand it, the collapse wasn't predicated on the steel melting, just softening to the point of it sagging and detaching.

There were, I think, areas of molten metal uncovered. But as I understand it, they were located where fires had been raging for days in the sub-basement areas.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:16 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Bingo, Rue - you don't have to MELT the metal to get it to fail, you just have to soften it ENOUGH.


And Byte: Nah, you don't fail.

Mike

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:21 PM

RUE

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Byte's pretty cool about reading things closely. It keeps the rest of us from making grand assumptions and leaps of logic supported by nothing more than faith.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:29 PM

BYTEMITE


Oh, right. Actually, I now remember having this discussion about just WEAKENING the metal with you two before. Ack, I have a terrible memory.

Well, eventually things stick... Just keep pointing this stuff out to me. It helps if I embarrass myself, like I just did. I usually don't forget things twice.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:37 PM

LITTLEBIRD



Thank you Rue and Byte! Two questions answered. Narrowing things down. Think it probably does come back to who knew what and when.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:41 PM

RUE

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"Think it probably does come back to who knew what and when."

My mini-Tourette's-me is thinking - hmmmm, maybe it's time for a little waterboarding.

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:43 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"Think it probably does come back to who knew what and when."

My mini-Tourette's-me is thinking - hmmmm, maybe it's time for a little waterboarding.

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And now there's no legal justification for NOT doing it! :)

Let's set this up quick. We might only get one shot at Cheney!

Mike

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:45 PM

LITTLEBIRD



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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 3:43 PM

FREMDFIRMA



While we're on the subject of conspiracies, Littlebird, I was lookin through our archives for any of the documents you had in mind, there was a particular set I did know still existed, but could not remember the exact names of the files, so I rang up Justin and we badgered the personality engine, which kicked out THIS.
http://www.thestraights.com/images/seed-Ervin-brainwash.htm
Damned useful gadget it is.

Cause having the actual name, I ran it through ERIC and found a match.
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/custom/portlets/recordDetails/det
ailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=ED103726&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=ED103726


The entire report is available as a PDF format file (you'll need adobe acrobat reader) via a link at the top of the page, and it can also be requested in direct hard copy for a nominal fee.

I do believe this is the report in question you were looking for.

-Frem

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:56 PM

LITTLEBIRD



OMG Frem! Thank you! Just reading the first link .. it fits!

Being taken from home.

Small group of five people living together.

Being taken from that place to other places and then brought back.

Flashes of Military bases and people. Coming at me like strobe lights or a house of mirrors. Large gaps in memory.

Sitting at a kitchen table and looking up in shock at a calendar hanging on the wall and wondering where several months of my life had just gone.

I downloaded the larger file and will be reading it tonight. It helps me feel less crazy to have some sort of objective proof that these programs really existed.

So you used the 'personality engine' that they based on you, right? :)

One of these days I'm going to want to have a conversation with you on the 'remote viewing' programs, but not just yet.

Thank you again!

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:40 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Ayep, while I have an extremely good memory, it's no-contest in comparison to the machine, so instead of mentally beating my head against the wall, why not use the resource, since that's part of why we built it ?

And again, patience Birdie, patience...

If you should need the files relative to the bit you mention, carried out mostly at Stanford back in the 70's - I could prolly get those too, it's all in knowing where and how to look, since they were of almost no military/intelligence value and I do believe Clinton declassified them.

Ft Meade also had a team on that in their own little skunk works, which being next to crypto and the enhanced aggression folk, we did know about, since they were the butt of most black-side in-jokes at the time, and rightfully so since human mental evolution isn't anywhere near up to the purpose - of em all Saintlace did the best job of it, but it was still a damned stupid idea.

But all in good time, little birdie, all in good time - ain't about them, it's about you, and learning to cope and overcome to where it doesn't matter so much any more.

-F

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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:53 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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And another short jump to those who think rich people are exercising their accumulated power to get richer.
Good comeback!
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But how what why and what people knew? Oh yeah, definately investigate that.
I’m on with that, fer shore. We already know there were warnings that were ignored—BIG ones!—but what beyond that, I’d like to know. Not that we ever will...

Rue, I agree
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There ARE real world conspiracies, where rich and powerful people DO get together to try and figure out how to run the world so as to be even more rich and powerful. They DO see themselves as a group with common interests, even as they compete with each other. They do NOT see us as people.
Nailed it. But I don’t see most of the things conspiracy nuts think are conspiracies that way. It’s like they’d rather see the dramatic “conspiracies” than the real ones!

As to waterboarding Cheney, naw, not me. First off, torture doesn’t bring about trustworthy intelligence...he’d just lie, which he’s already a pro at. Second, he probably wouldn’t last long, then we’d just be hit with the expense of his hospitalization again.




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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:18 AM

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www.johnnygosch.com

Inside the Beltway: EXPLOSIVE NEWS

Washington Times
February 22, 2010

A lingering technical question about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks still haunts some, and it has political implications: How did 200,000 tons of steel disintegrate and drop in 11 seconds? A thousand architects and engineers want to know, and are calling on Congress to order a new investigation into the destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7 at the World Trade Center.

"In order to bring down this kind of mass in such a short period of time, the material must have been artificially, exploded outwards," says Richard Gage, a San Francisco architect and founder of the nonprofit Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

Mr. Gage, who is a member of the American Institute of Architects, managed to persuade more than 1,000 of his peers to sign a new petition requesting a formal inquiry.

"The official Federal Emergency Management [Agency] and National Institute of Standards and Technology reports provide insufficient, contradictory and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction. We are therefore calling for a grand jury investigation of NIST officials," Mr. Gage adds.

The technical issues surrounding the collapse of the towers has prompted years of debate, rebuttal and ridicule.

He is particularly disturbed by Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper, which was not hit by an aircraft, yet came down in "pure free-fall acceleration." He also says that more than 100 first-responders reported explosions and flashes as the towers were falling and cited evidence of "multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft. at 60 mph" and the "mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking."

There is also evidence of "advanced explosive nano-thermitic composite material found in the World Trade Center dust," Mr. Gage says. The group's petition at www. ae911truth.org is already on its way to members of Congress.

"Government officials will be notified that 'Misprision of Treason,' U.S. Code 18 (Sec. 2382), is a serious federal offense, which requires those with evidence of treason to act," Mr. Gage says. "The implications are enormous and may have profound impact on the forthcoming Khalid Shaikh Mohammed trial."

Stay tuned for more in this space.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/22/inside-the-beltway-701
28635/?feat=home_columns






New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon

Madison, WI (PRWEB) June 21, 2007 - A study of the black box data provided by the government to Pilots for 9/11 Truth has confirmed the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon on 9/11. "We have had four lines of proof that no Boeing 757 hit the building," said James Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This new study by Pilots drives another nail into a coffin of lies told the American people by The 9/11 Commission":

The new society, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, petitioned the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) under the Freedom of Information Act and obtained its 2002 report on American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 that, according to the official account, hit the ground floor of the Pentagon after it skimmed over the lawn at 500 mph plus, taking out a series of lamp posts in the process. The pilots not only obtained the flight data but created a computer animation to demonstrate what it told them.

According to the report issued by Pilots for 9/11 Truth ( http://pilotsfor911truth.org/), there are major differences between the official account and the flight data:

a. The NTSB Flight Path Animation approach path and altitude does not support official events.

b. All Altitude data shows the aircraft at least 300 feet too high to have struck the light poles.

c. The rate of descent data is in direct conflict with the aircraft being able to impact the light poles and be captured in the Dept of Defense "5 Frames" video of an object traveling nearly parallel with the Pentagon lawn.

d. The record of data stops at least one second prior to official impact time.

e. If data trends are continued, the aircraft altitude would have been at least 100 feet too high to have hit the Pentagon.

As Robert Balsamo, co-founder of Pilots for 9/11 Truth, observes, "The information in the NSTB documents does not support, and in some instances factually contradicts, the official government position that American Airlines Flight 77 struck the Pentagon on the morning of September 11, 2001." The study was signed by fifteen professional pilots with extensive military and commercial carrier experience. They have made their animation, "Pandora's Box: Chapter 2," available to the public at http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Pandora's+Black+Box%3A+Chapter+2 .

According to James H. Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth ( http://911scholars.org), this result fits into the broader picture of what happened at the Pentagon that day. "We have developed four lines of argument that prove--conclusively, in my judgment--that no Boeing 757 hit the building. The most important evidence to the contrary has been the numerous eyewitness reports of a large commercial carrier coming toward the building. If the NTSB data is correct, then the Pilot's study shows that a large aircraft headed toward the building but did not impact with it. It swerved off and flew above the Pentagon."

Fetzer, who retired last June after 35 years of teaching courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning, expressed pleasure over the Pilot's results, which, he said, has neatly resolved the most pressing issue that remained about the Pentagon. He added, "We have previously developed several lines of argument, each of which proves that no Boeing 757 hit the building," including these four:

(1) The hit point at the Pentagon was too small to accommodate a 100-ton airliner with a 125-foot wingspan and a tail that stands 44 feet above the ground; the kind and quantity of debris was wrong for a Boeing 757: there were no wings, no fuselage, no seats, no bodies, no luggage, no tail! Not even the engines were recovered, and they are practically indestructible.

(2) Of an estimate 84 videotapes of the crash, the three that have been released by the Pentagon do not show a Boeing 757 hitting the building, as even Bill O'Reilly admitted when one was shown on "The Factor". At 155 feet, the plane was more than twice as long as the 77-foot Pentagon is high and should have been visible. There are indications of a much smaller plane, but not a Boeing 757.

(3) Indeed, the aerodynamics of flight would have made the official trajectory--flying more than 500 mph barely above ground level--physically impossible, because of the accumulation of a massive pocket of compressed gas (air) beneath the fuselage; and if it had come it at an angle instead, it would have created a massive crater; but there is no crater and the official trajectory is impossible.

(4) Flying low enough to impact with the ground floor would have meant that the enormous engines were plowing the ground and creating massive furrows; but there are no massive furrows. The smooth, unblemished surface of the Pentagon lawn thus stands as a "smoking gun" proving the official trajectory cannot be sustained.

Members of Scholars have contributed to a new book that analyses the government's official account, according to which 19 Islamic fundamentalists hijacked four commercial airliners, outfoxed the most sophisticated air-defense system in the world, and committed these atrocities under the control of a man in a cave in Afghanistan. Entitled, THE 9/11 CONSPIRACY (2007), it includes photographs of the hit point before and after the upper floors collapsed, the crucial frame from the released videos, and views of the clear, smooth, and unblemished lawn.

"Don't be taken in by photos showing damage to the second floor or those taken after the upper floors collapsed, which happened 20-30 minutes later," Fetzer said. "In fact, debris begins to show up on the completely clean lawn in short order, which might have been dropped from a C-130 that was circling above the Pentagon or placed there by men in suits who were photographed carrying debris with them." The most striking is a piece from the fuselage of a commercial airliner, which is frequently adduced as evidence.

James Hanson, a newspaper reporter who earned his law degree from the University of Michigan College of Law, has traced that debris to an American Airlines 757 that crashed in a rain forest above Cali, Columbia in 1995. "It was the kind of slow-speed crash that would have torn off paneling in this fashion, with no fires, leaving them largely intact." Fetzer has been so impressed with his research he has invited Hanson to submit his study to Scholars for consideration for publication on its web site, 911scholars.org.

"The Pentagon has become a kind of litmus test for rationality in the study of 9/11," Fetzer said. "Those who persist in maintaining that a Boeing 757 hit the building are either unfamiliar with the evidence or cognitively impaired. Unless," he added, "they want to mislead the American people. The evidence is beyond clear and compelling. It places this issue 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6133
http://pilotsfor911truth.org




9/11 Hijackers alive and well

9/11 hijack 'suspects' alive and well

Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well.

The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt.

Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September.

His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers and on television around the world.

Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.

He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks on New York and Washington, and had been in Morocco when they happened. He has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, according to Saudi press reports.

He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring.

But, he says, he left the United States in September last year, became a pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines and is currently on a further training course in Morocco.

Mistaken identity

Abdulaziz Al Omari, another of the Flight 11 hijack suspects, has also been quoted in Arab news reports.

He says he is an engineer with Saudi Telecoms, and that he lost his passport while studying in Denver.

Another man with exactly the same name surfaced on the pages of the English-language Arab News.

The second Abdulaziz Al Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines, the report says.

Meanwhile, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi.


He was listed by the FBI as a hijacker in the United flight that crashed in Pennsylvania.

And there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive.

FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1559151.stm




Mossad employee with his cousin CIA employee

Cousin Of Alleged 9/11 Hijacker Mohammed Atta Exposed As Israeli Spy for 25 Years
http://www.prisonplanet.com/cousin-of-alleged-911-hijacker-exposed-as-
israeli-spy.html


9/11 Hijacker Mohammad Atta Trained at the Pentagon's Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center in Monterey California, and the International Officer's School at Maxwell Air Force Base, in Montgomery, Alabama
http://911review.org/Sept11Wiki/MontereyLanguageInstitute.shtml
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=14738

Newsweek: Alleged 9/11 Hijackers Trained at U.S. Bases
http://www.prisonplanet.com/alleged_hijackers_may_trained_us_bases.htm
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Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:07 AM

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That's Putin those damn Troofers in their place!

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Friday, February 26, 2010 5:37 PM

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The Media Response to the Growing Influence of the 9/11 Truth Movement

Abstract

In the past year, in response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 attacks, nine corporate, seven public, and two independent media outlets aired analytic programs investigating the official account.

Increasingly, the issue is treated as a scientific controversy worthy of debate, rather than as a "conspiracy theory" ignoring science and common sense.

This essay presents these media analyses in the form of 18 case studies.

Eight countries – Britain, Canada, Denmark, France, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway and Russia – have allowed their publicly-owned broadcasting stations to air the full spectrum of evidence challenging the truth of the official account of 9/11.

This more open approach taken in the international media – I could also have included the Japanese media – might be a sign that worldwide public and corporate media organizations are positioning themselves, and preparing their audiences, for a possible revelation of the truth of the claim that forces within the US government were complicit in the attacks – a revelation that would call into question the publicly given rationale for the military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

The evidence now being explored in the international media may pave the way for the US media to take an in-depth look at the implications of what is now known about 9/11, and to re-examine the country's foreign and domestic policies in the light of this knowledge.

Elizabeth Woodworth is a retired professional health sciences librarian, and a freelance writer. She is the author of two published books and many articles on political and social justice issues.

continued:

Part 1: www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=16505&context=va

Part 2: www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WOO20100214&a
rticleId=17624

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Monday, March 1, 2010 10:56 PM

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Tuesday, March 2, 2010 2:42 PM

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How to destroy a 9/11 Truther: Kill 10,000 of them!

Russia Today: Hundreds of 9/11 first responders die of cancer
http://www.prisonplanet.com/hundreds-of-911-first-responders-die-of-ca
ncer.html


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As Ground Zero death cases go to trial, secret respirator rule is revealed

A lawyer in two Ground Zero sickness cases green-lighted for trial says he has a smoking gun: buried city documents that prove firefighters should have gotten respirators.

The papers emerged in a veritable mountain of files the city turned over to workers who believe they were sickened by toxins after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Lawyer Andrew Carboy, whose firm represents more than 600 firefighters, said the FDNY had rules on the book requiring Bravest be equipped with respirators before Sept. 11.

But memos showing that weren't handed over until this summer - in a data dump of 3 million documents - five years after the legal battle began. "They provide everyone with helmets, with bunker gear, with [air] packs. They could have done the same with respirators, and they withheld the documents saying they had a program to do it," Carboy said.

Carboy's firm represents Firefighters Frank Malone and the late Raymond Hauber, whose cases are among a dozen picked to go to trial, starting in May.

Four were chosen from more than 9,000 by a federal judge, four by the city, and four by plaintiffs' lawyers. More than $1 billion in damages hinge on the outcome.

To show the city is liable, Carboy plans to wield memos about the FDNY's "respiratory protection program," which was supposed to provide respirators for "reasonably foreseeable emergency situations" like building collapses.

The FDNY didn't follow its own guidelines and had only 600 respirators for more than 11,200 uniformed members when the twin towers fell Sept. 11, Carboy said.

A 2003 FDNY memo called for the head of safety and health for the department, Tennyson Headley, to be canned in part because of the dysfunctional respirator program. But Headley is still on the FDNY payroll.

In a Feb. 5 deposition, he admitted he didn't know the FDNY had a program until well after 9/11, or that he was responsible for making sure firefighters were trained to use the masks.

The city's lawyers deny the memo was hidden, saying documents about the program were "irrelevant" because a separate respirator policy was created for Ground Zero after the attacks.

On Sept. 11, the FDNY ordered 5,000 respirators for $20 to $25 each, court documents say.

www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/02/28/2010-02-28_a_911_smoking_gun_a
s_cases_go_to_trial_respirator_rule_is_revealed.html















I'd have punched O'Reilly right there on live TV... Over and over and over again.


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Friday, March 5, 2010 7:28 AM

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Pentagon cops kill "9/11 Truther"

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“Signs emerged that Bedell harbored ill feelings toward the government and the armed forces, and had questioned the circumstances behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Both questioning the events of 911 and the illegal wars in the Mid East are a clear sign of a tendency toward violence. Bedell allegedly harbored ill feelings toward the government and the armed forces. In an Internet posting, a user by the name JPatrickBedell wrote that he was ‘determined to see that justice is served’ in the death of Marine Col. James Sabow, who was found dead in the backyard of his California home in 1991. The death was ruled a suicide but the case has long been the source of theories of a cover up. The user named JPatrickBedell wrote the Sabow case was 'a step toward establishing the truth of events such as the September 11 demolitions.' That same posting railed against the government’s enforcement of marijuana laws and included links to the author’s 2006 court case in Orange County, Calif., for cultivating marijuana and resisting a police officer. Court records available online show the date of birth on the case mentioned by the user JPatrickBedell matches that of the John Patrick Bedell suspected in the shooting. President Barack Obama was getting FBI updates on the Pentagon shooting through his homeland security and counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, White House spokesman jew Nick Shapiro said.”


Dead Pentagon "shooter's" Youtube "rant":



As Predicted, Pentagon Shooting Blamed On 9/11 Truth (ignoring his MKULTRA psych ward and Operation Northwoods)
http://www.infowars.com/as-predicted-pentagon-shooting-blamed-on-911-t
ruth
/

Fox News tries to associate government criticism with gun violence
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,588074,00.html
http://www.infowars.com/fox-news-tries-to-associate-government-critici
sm-with-gun-violence
/

Pentagon Shooting Coincides with Supreme Court Second Amendment Case in Chicago
http://www.infowars.com/pentagon-shooting-coincides-with-supreme-court
-second-amendment-case
/

Xmas Underwear Bomber escorted on plane by CIA in false-flag MKULTRA "training" attack
http://168.215.229.9/mthread.asp?b=18&t=41270

Pentagon's Operation Northwoods plan for perping sniper attacks in DC to blame patsies
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

Pedophile jews at Southern Poverty Law Center claim 9/11 Truthers at We Are Change are Nazi terrorists (same week as Pentagon shootings)
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-i
ssues/2010/spring/rage-on-the-right

http://www.prisonplanet.com/splc-report-heavy-on-smear-thin-on-facts.h
tml


SPLC runs Nazi terror bomber groups for ADL Mossad
http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS346US346&sourceid=chrome&
ie=UTF-8&q=splc+oklahoma+city+informant


SPLC jew Morris Dees Seligman is a pedophile rapist of his own daughter says his wife in court documents
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS346US346&q=splc+mor
ris+dees+pedophile+incest&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq
=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS346US346&q=splc+mor
ris+dees+jew+name&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq
=


Green Nazi Jews for NWO Banksters
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=42068

SNL says jew stock brokers knew about 9/11 in advance
http://www.infowars.com/parody-stock-brokers-knew-about-911-in-advance/

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Friday, March 5, 2010 8:13 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Sore scroll finger. Nothing here since I posted but PN, PN, PN talking to himself. Something about oxygen stealer comes to mind...

Just think how many trees...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Friday, March 5, 2010 9:17 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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How to destroy a 9/11 Truther: Shoot him dead at the Pentagon


Yup, that's one way, and it seems a very effective one. He is indeeed "destroyed", right?


Love the title change, by the way. It's actually truthy now!




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Saturday, March 6, 2010 5:25 AM

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Fox: "Why would you walk up to an officer and start firing like that?"

MKULTRA in the loonybin he was in.

Cops shot him in the head, thanks to "extra training they got after Fort Hood".

Top Secret Reports withheld from defense lawyers in Ft Hood shooting:
http://forthoodattorney.com


Fort Hood massacres 80 Christians in Waco church


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Saturday, March 6, 2010 6:22 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Why didn't they just track him down at his home, and set fire to it?




Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Saturday, March 6, 2010 8:15 AM

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Elevators were disaster within disaster: Cowardice or clusterfuck?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002-09-04-elevator-usat_x.htm

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The World Trade Center had one of the world's great elevator systems — 198 of the biggest, fastest elevators ever built. On the morning of Sept. 11, this technological marvel turned against the people who worked there. USA TODAY estimates that at least 200 people died inside World Trade Center elevators, the biggest elevator catastrophe in history. Some people plunged to their deaths after elevator cables were destroyed by the hijacked jets that crashed into the buildings. Others burned to death as flames shot down shafts. And some who were trapped inside stalled elevators died when the buildings collapsed. USA TODAY could not find an instance in which emergency workers successfully rescued people from elevators, although some firefighters died trying. To comply with building codes, the World Trade Center since 1996 had been adding locks that made it impossible for passengers to force open the doors of stalled elevators. These locks, called "door restrictors," had been added to about half of the 198 elevators in the twin towers. Nobody is known to have escaped from an elevator locked by a door restrictor. In a fire emergency, an elevator is programmed to return to its lowest floor and hold its doors open. On Sept. 11, many elevators far below the crash zones failed to do this, although they continued to have electrical power. The reason for this failure is unclear. Firefighters failed to inspect elevators with closed doors, even those closest to the command post in the north tower lobby. Eight passengers escaped from these elevators on their own; one man did so just five minutes before the building collapsed. Eighty elevator mechanics were on duty in the towers that morning, many just a few steps from people who needed rescue. However, the mechanics, fearing for their safety, evacuated on their own initiative when the south tower was struck at 9:03 a.m. All the mechanics survived. But the Port Authority says the emergency plan called for mechanics to stay and help with rescues.


The Elevator Man's Tale: Robert Jones
http://archive.recordonline.com/adayinseptember/jones.htm

ACE Elevator - did they plant the demolition charges?
http://letsrollforums.com/ace-elevator-did-they-t19811.html
http://www.ae911truth.org/twintowers.php]

ACE Elevator was "modernizing" the WTC elevators for 9 months prior to 9/11/2001. Thus ACE had access to the massive 48 core columns that had to be each cut in dozens of places before the twin towers could fall.


http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html


Controlled Demolition Inc installing RDX "cutter" charges on History Channel
CDI was paid $3-billion to "demolish" WTC "after" 9/11

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Monday, March 8, 2010 5:26 AM

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Note that Pentagon's Operation Northwoods included CIA and DIA staging "fake" shootings in DC, with "grazings", just like the recent "grazings" of the cops at the Pentagon. How convenient the Manchurian Truther died and can't testify in public court.

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Shooter Drill Held at D.C. Transit Station Days Before Pentagon Shooting

Coincidence? Several days before John Patrick Bedell attacked two Pentagon cops and was killed, D.C. police staged a drill at the Friendship Heights Metro station in in Northwest Washington.

Quote:

“Metro police and other emergency personnel will descend on the Friendship Heights Station starting at 11:30 Wednesday night for an anti-terrorist exercise in which mock gunmen open fire, killing or wounding several passengers,” Ann Scott Tyson reported for the Washington Post on February 22. “Agencies responding will include the Metro police special response team, as well as fire, police and emergency medical personnel from the District, Montgomery County and the FBI, according to a Metro statement.”

video: Blue TIDE, an anti-terrorism exercise conducted by D.C. Metro Transit Police.
www.infowars.com/drill-held-at-d-c-transit-station-days-before-pentago
n-shooting
/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/02/AR2010
020200794.html

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/getthere/2010/02/anti-terror_exercise
_at_friend.html?wprss=getthere



Prior to the Friendship Heights Metro station drill, on February 3, D.C. Metro Transit Police staged their largest anti-terrorism sweep ever, “some toting M-4 rifles and others guiding bomb-sniffing dogs,” according to the Post. “In coming months, they plan to hold similar drills for the effort, dubbed Blue TIDE (Terrorism Identification and Deterrence Effort).”

Drills are a prominent and highly suspicious feature of the attacks on September 11, 2001. New York City was scheduled to have a major terrorism training exercise September 11. It was called Tripod and was intended to test how well the city’s Office of Emergency Management would administer treatment in the event of a biological-terrorism attack. FEMA and the FBI were scheduled to participate.

FEMA spokesman Tom Kenney confirmed Tripod was scheduled to take place. He told Dan Rather on September 12, 2001, that FEMA was deployed to New York on Monday night, September 10th, to be ready to go into action on Tuesday morning, September 11th. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani confirmed FEMA’s presence in the city during his testimony before the 9-11 Commission in 2004.

During its Vigilant Guardian exercise held on September 6, 2001, NORAD practiced for dealing with the simulated hijackings of two commercial aircraft by terrorists. The simulated hijackings were to occur on September 9, 10, and the morning of September 11.

The previous month, on August 30, the Department of Transportation held a tabletop exercise as part of its preparations for the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. “During that exercise, part of the scenario, interestingly enough, involved a potentially hijacked plane and someone calling on a cell phone, among other aspects of the scenario that were very strange when 12 days later, as you know, we had the actual event [of 9/11],” Ellen Engleman, the administrator of the DOT’s Research and Special Programs Administration, said in October, 2001.

In early August of 2001, a mass casualty exercise was held at the Pentagon. The scenario envisioned a hijacked plane hitting the Pentagon. “[It was] purely a coincidence, the scenario for that exercise included a plane hitting the building,” General Lance Lord, the assistant vice chief of staff of the Air Force who was one of the participants in the exercise, told the Air Force Space Command News in September, 2002.

On the morning of September 11, within minutes of the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the CIA was engaged in “a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.” The Bush administration described the event as “a bizarre coincidence.”

And then there was the terrorist drill held in London during the July 7, 2005, attack. “At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now,” Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, told the BBC.

After the London attack, math on the odds of a drill occurring at the same time was calculated. “The odds were one in 3,715,592,613,265,750,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. This is obviously a figure open to conjecture but it gives you an idea of the ballpark improbability we are talking about,” Paul Jospeh Watson wrote for Prison Planet on July 23, 2005. (See Probability of 7/7 Drill and Attack Coinciding.)

The odds on the drill at the Friendship Heights Metro station in in Northwest Washington and the Blue TIDE exercise held earlier prior to the Pentagon shooting are much lower, but suspicious nonetheless.

The exercises were not mentioned by the corporate media after the Pentagon shooting. The fact drills and exercises parallel such events are irrelevant to the corporate media. Its primary agenda is to engage in hysterical fear-mongering about “rightwing extremists” and 9/11 truthers and fallaciously connect them to a shooting by a mentally deranged man who not only wrote about 9/11 truth but the bizarre idea that marijuana should be the basis for the nation’s currency.


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