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Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


‘Nightmare bacteria’ spreading rapidly in Southeastern US
Published time: August 01, 2014 17:11
Edited time: August 02, 2014 02:58


This photo provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows one form of CRE bacteria, sometimes called "nightmare bacteria."

Deadly, nearly untreatable superbugs known as CRE, dubbed “nightmare bacteria,” have spread at an alarming rate throughout the southeastern region of the US in recent years, new research indicates.

Researchers at Duke University Medical Center have found cases of antibiotic-resistant CRE - or carbapenem-resistant Enterobacteriaceae - increased by at least a factor of five in community hospitals across the region from 2008 to 2012.

"We're trying to sound the alarm. This is a problem for all of us in health care," said Deverick J. Anderson, lead author of the study and an associate professor of medicine at Duke, according to USA Today. "These (bacteria) are just about as bad as it gets."

CRE are a family of bacteria that live in one’s guts, often without causing illness. Yet when the bacteria escape - during ICU treatment, for example - they often cause major hospital-induced infections. One in 25 hospitalized patients contract at least one health-care-related infection on any given day, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The bacteria prey mostly on vulnerable, hospitalized patients, killing nearly half of those who catch bloodstream infections.

“Carbapenems,” according to Wired, are a group of potent antibiotics that target infections that have proven resistant to other antibiotics. They are considered drugs to be used as a last resort. And since only a few antibiotics - riddled with side effects and other problems for a patient - have been proven successful against CREs, the bacteria family’s strong emergence indicates the dawn of a post-antibiotic era.

That is, unless overuse of antibiotics is curbed and infection control at hospitals and long-term care facilities is improved, experts say. Many in the health community see the rise of superbugs as fueled by the impulse to use antibiotics, both with and without a patient’s urging, for common ailments like a sore throat.

"That needs to stop," said Kevin Kavanagh, an infection-control activist who heads the watchdog group Health Watch USA. "It's creating a huge problem."

Last year, the CDC said CREs have spread from one medical facility in 2001 to many facilities in 46 states by 2013.

"Our strongest antibiotics don't work, and patients are left with potentially untreatable infections,” said CDC Director Tom Frieden, who called CREs “nightmare bacteria.”

The Duke study, released in the journal Infection Control and Hospital Epidemiology, found that CRE detection went up fivefold within the Duke Infection Control Outreach Network, a group of 25 community hospitals in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, and Georgia.

Anderson said rates have probably gone up just as much nationally at such small community hospitals, “the main type of hospitals in the US.”

Wired’s Maryn McKenna described the implications of the study’s findings and what it would mean if CRE spread beyond hospital settings:

“[H]ospitals where this resistance factor was identified were what is called ‘community’ hospitals, that is, not academic referral centers. That’s an important distinction, because academic medical centers tend to be where the most cutting-edge care is performed, and where the sickest people are. As a result, they are where last-resort antibiotics are used the most, and therefore where resistance is most likely to emerge. That CRE was found so widely not in academic centers, but rather in community hospitals, is a signal that it is probably moving through what medicine calls ‘the community,’ which is to say, anywhere outside healthcare. Or, you know, everyday life.”

And if CRE are not controlled, activist Kavanagh told USA Today, medicines currently relied on to combat bacterial infections will become increasingly impotent against them.

Meanwhile, last month, researchers found one of the deadliest antibiotic-resistant bacteria for the first time in a food product, raw squid, as reported by the CDC.

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


harumph. I shouldn't have to find out about this in RT, but it seems no national media picked up on this story.


https://www.google.com/#q=antibiotic-resistant+CRE&tbm=nws
7 results (0.09 seconds)

'Nightmare bacteria' spreading rapidly in Southeastern US
RT-15 hours ago

'Nightmare bacteria' spreading in Southeast US
Iowa City Press Citizen-9 hours ago

'Nightmare bacteria' spread in Southeast
Hometownlife.com-Jul 31, 2014

Antibiotic-Resistant 'Nightmare Bacteria' Rising in Southeast
Talk Radio 920 WHJJ-Aug 1, 2014
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Medical Research News and Interviews_ MedicalResearch.com-by Marie Benz, MD FAAD-Jul 18, 2014

Superbug Increasing in Southeast Hospitals
WebMD-Jul 18, 2014

Deadly superbug is spreading in US hospitals
Trinidad Guardian-Jul 27, 2014

National Post-Jul 16, 2014
CRE are part of a class of highly antibiotic-resistant bacteria that are not

Infection Control Today-Jul 17, 2014
Explore in depth (8 more articles)
Deadly 'superbug' is spreading in US hospitals

CNBC.com-by Mark Koba-Jul 25, 2014
Cases of the contagious and deadly "superbug" known as CRE

New York Daily News-Jul 25, 2014
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The growing trend of antibiotic-resistant bacteria can cause patients to ... CRE, he explained, are nearly immune to antibiotics and are able to ...
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Tom Frieden on Public Health and Safety

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 3:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
harumph. I shouldn't have to find out about this in RT, but it seems no national media picked up on this story.



They picked it up in March 2013, when most stories about it were published.

Search the CDC rep's quote "Our strongest antibiotics don't work, and patients are left with potentially untreatable infections" and you'll find plenty: CBS, Fox News, Washington Post, Wall Street Week, etc.


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Saturday, August 2, 2014 4:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


that gets a FAIL

That quote is story 'background' material. THIS STORY is about a NEW STUDY which indicates the bacteria is spreading rapidly in the US SE. THIS STORY is NOT available in national media.

And for anyone not Geezer - I don't just verify stories you post, I also verify stories I post. That is why I tried to find it elsewhere.




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Saturday, August 2, 2014 4:43 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


We're doomed.

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 4:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Not doomed, but in jeopardy. I'm so glad I'm old. I hope you like the world we left you with our 'anything for a buck' idée fixe. Enjoy.




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Saturday, August 2, 2014 5:00 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Yah, it had to be that, huh ? No way could this critter evolved any other way.

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 5:10 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yah, it had to be that, huh ? No way could this critter evolved any other way.

Actually, if you knew anything at all about biology, you would not have posted that. You never tire of being 100& dense on all important subjects, do you?

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 5:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


That's ok chris,isall. He can't help himself.




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Saturday, August 2, 2014 6:04 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Know enough about biology and all important subjects to know that " anything for a buck " isn't always the evil that some simpletons try to paint it, or the cause of all the world's problems. Per the posted story, 'anything for a buck ' wasn't the cause at all of the spread, but instead it was lazy prescription writing by doctors.

But of course, some HERE are so hard wired to hate anything to do w/ the private sector and think that only a govt run healthcare system ( Hello? VA disaster ? ) would solve ALL the world's problems.

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 7:49 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Know enough about biology and all important subjects to know that " anything for a buck " isn't always the evil that some simpletons try to paint it]

Once again you take the point to a faux political level, you stupid fuck. I was making a scientific point, asshole. Holy shit are you impossible to communicate with! If I mention the sky is blue you'll go into a rant against how Democrats do not own it...
Just go leave your head up your ass, probably the most productive place for it to be anyway.

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 8:09 PM

JONGSSTRAW





"And how's our patient today Miss Jones?"

"No change doctor. The usual rantings about nightmare bacteria, catastrophic climate change, and an unstoppable evil force called Auraptor."

"I see. Up the thorazine dosage to 200 mg., and lets try another round of electroshock therapy right away."

"Yes doctor, right away."

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 8:26 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
some HERE are so hard wired to hate anything to do w/ the private sector and think that only a govt run healthcare system ( Hello? VA disaster ? ) would solve ALL the world's problems.

At least we are not like YOU, loving the private sector so fiercely that you are willing to do away with government altogether and make America a Corporate entity with the Constitution as its mission statement!

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 8:38 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Up the thorazine dosage to 200 mg.

No good. I suffer from NAS.

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 10:48 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Know enough about biology and all important subjects to know that " anything for a buck " isn't always the evil that some simpletons try to paint it]

Once again you take the point to a faux political level, you stupid fuck. I was making a scientific point, asshole. Holy shit are you impossible to communicate with! If I mention the sky is blue you'll go into a rant against how Democrats do not own it...
Just go leave your head up your ass, probably the most productive place for it to be anyway.




Your potty mouth has gotten worse as of late.

The sky only appears blue due to the wave lengths which get absorbed and then radiated by the gases in the atmo...




So you see, it has nothing what so ever to do w/ Democrats.

( Much to their chagrin )

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 11:12 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
that gets a FAIL

That quote is story 'background' material. THIS STORY is about a NEW STUDY which indicates the bacteria is spreading rapidly in the US SE. THIS STORY is NOT available in national media.



Provide a link that provides information newer than the March 2013 stories.


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Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:27 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Several years back I read an article that spoke to this so-called "superbug" and it had to do with the anti-bacterial soap and creams on the market. One researcher warned that it would help to develop precisely that - a superbug.

He said that washing our hands with simple soap and water would suffice in killing off most germs. But, as correctly put, the quest for even more of the almighty dollar, pushes the envelope beyond reason and we get the opposite results. Instead of heeding the warnings of the scientific community - the private sector lobbied and effectively killed the voice of reason and now the chickens have come home to roost.

And, of course, Big Money will not spend a dime to combat this menace, but sure that's when government suddenly becomes the darling of the private sector, which means the taxpayers will foot the bill. Then government is alright by them.

Catch 22.................


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
‘Nightmare bacteria’ spreading rapidly in Southeastern US
Published time: August 01, 2014 17:11
Edited time: August 02, 2014 02:58


This photo provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows one form of CRE bacteria, sometimes called "nightmare bacteria."

Deadly, nearly untreatable superbugs known as CRE, dubbed “nightmare bacteria,” have spread at an alarming rate throughout the southeastern region of the US in recent years, new research indicates.

Researchers at Duke University Medical Center have found cases of antibiotic-resistant CRE - or carbapenem-resistant Enterobacteriaceae - increased by at least a factor of five in community hospitals across the region from 2008 to 2012.

"We're trying to sound the alarm. This is a problem for all of us in health care," said Deverick J. Anderson, lead author of the study and an associate professor of medicine at Duke, according to USA Today. "These (bacteria) are just about as bad as it gets."

CRE are a family of bacteria that live in one’s guts, often without causing illness. Yet when the bacteria escape - during ICU treatment, for example - they often cause major hospital-induced infections. One in 25 hospitalized patients contract at least one health-care-related infection on any given day, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The bacteria prey mostly on vulnerable, hospitalized patients, killing nearly half of those who catch bloodstream infections.

“Carbapenems,” according to Wired, are a group of potent antibiotics that target infections that have proven resistant to other antibiotics. They are considered drugs to be used as a last resort. And since only a few antibiotics - riddled with side effects and other problems for a patient - have been proven successful against CREs, the bacteria family’s strong emergence indicates the dawn of a post-antibiotic era.

That is, unless overuse of antibiotics is curbed and infection control at hospitals and long-term care facilities is improved, experts say. Many in the health community see the rise of superbugs as fueled by the impulse to use antibiotics, both with and without a patient’s urging, for common ailments like a sore throat.

"That needs to stop," said Kevin Kavanagh, an infection-control activist who heads the watchdog group Health Watch USA. "It's creating a huge problem."

Last year, the CDC said CREs have spread from one medical facility in 2001 to many facilities in 46 states by 2013.

"Our strongest antibiotics don't work, and patients are left with potentially untreatable infections,” said CDC Director Tom Frieden, who called CREs “nightmare bacteria.”

The Duke study, released in the journal Infection Control and Hospital Epidemiology, found that CRE detection went up fivefold within the Duke Infection Control Outreach Network, a group of 25 community hospitals in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, and Georgia.

Anderson said rates have probably gone up just as much nationally at such small community hospitals, “the main type of hospitals in the US.”

Wired’s Maryn McKenna described the implications of the study’s findings and what it would mean if CRE spread beyond hospital settings:

“[H]ospitals where this resistance factor was identified were what is called ‘community’ hospitals, that is, not academic referral centers. That’s an important distinction, because academic medical centers tend to be where the most cutting-edge care is performed, and where the sickest people are. As a result, they are where last-resort antibiotics are used the most, and therefore where resistance is most likely to emerge. That CRE was found so widely not in academic centers, but rather in community hospitals, is a signal that it is probably moving through what medicine calls ‘the community,’ which is to say, anywhere outside healthcare. Or, you know, everyday life.”

And if CRE are not controlled, activist Kavanagh told USA Today, medicines currently relied on to combat bacterial infections will become increasingly impotent against them.

Meanwhile, last month, researchers found one of the deadliest antibiotic-resistant bacteria for the first time in a food product, raw squid, as reported by the CDC.


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Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


yoo-hoo ... geezer ...

Cases of Drug-Resistant Superbug Significantly Rise in Southeastern U.S.
Date Published:7/16/2014 6:58:00 PM
http://www.shea-online.org/View/smid/428/ArticleID/298.aspx

Now, don't you feel stupid because you couldn't run a simple search? And if not, don't you think you should?





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Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:47 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
yoo-hoo ... geezer ...

Cases of Drug-Resistant Superbug Significantly Rise in Southeastern U.S.
Date Published:7/16/2014 6:58:00 PM
http://www.shea-online.org/View/smid/428/ArticleID/298.aspx

Now, don't you feel stupid because you couldn't run a simple search? And if not, don't you think you should?



Nope. If you're going to make statements, its your responsibility to provide cites for them. I note that you still haven't provided a cite for your original post.


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Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:00 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:

Nope. If you're going to make statements, its your responsibility to provide cites for them. I note that you still haven't provided a cite for your original post.



With 1kiki, it's more about insulting others than backing up statements.

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:34 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Hey there G
You too seem - well - unable to read, frankly. The story wasn't about the bacterium in general. It was about a NEW STUDY that measured its spread in the US southeast. A point I made more than once, with green capitalized font so that it would be eye catching. A study, as I linked, that didn't come out till July 16, 2014 (see below).

Cases of Drug-Resistant Superbug Significantly Rise in Southeastern U.S.
Date Published:7/16/2014 6:58:00 PM
http://www.shea-online.org/View/smid/428/ArticleID/298.aspx

Did you find all those stories about the NEW STUDY? Prove it big boy. Show us all those links, m'kay?




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Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:48 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Now this is classic slick - I mean wheezer - moving the goalposts when proven wrong.



1kiki

that gets a FAIL
That quote is story 'background' material. THIS STORY is about a NEW STUDY which indicates the bacteria is spreading rapidly in the US SE. THIS STORY is NOT available in national media.

wheezer

Provide a link that provides information newer than the March 2013 stories.
1kiki

yoo-hoo ... geezer ...
Cases of Drug-Resistant Superbug Significantly Rise in Southeastern U.S.
Date Published:7/16/2014 6:58:00 PM
http://www.shea-online.org/View/smid/428/ArticleID/298.aspx
Now, don't you feel stupid because you couldn't run a simple search? And if not, don't you think you should?
wheezer

Nope. If you're going to make statements, its your responsibility to provide cites for them. I note that you still haven't provided a cite for your original post.





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Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:49 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


CRAPPY, KIKI provides more than ample links for her statements. Unlike you. YOU, son, just bloviate all over the board and then run away. You refuse, among other things, to even answer questions about your own posts, much less provide a factual basis for them!

Quote:

So you say. I'll comment on what I DO know, not only what I'm told to think / believe. -rappy

So, you don't believe anything the press tells you about events far away, but prefer to base your information directly on your senses? Tell me... how did you know about Saddam's WMD, then? Did you see any personally?- signy


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Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:14 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


See, what this thread shows is how truly deeply stupid slick, crappy, and (g)eezer are. Virtually all of their posts are about how deeply they need me to be wrong, rather than about real information in the real world.

This thread is about a new study that shows the spread of CRE into the community in the US southeast. This story was NOT available in national media though it was available locally and internationally through - most prominently - RT. The fact that this was a NEW STUDY is something I highlighted prominently in more than one post. And that was one point they continued to miss. And I said the reason I was irritated with US media was b/c I tried to verify the story through other sources and found it wasn't in US national media. The fact that I SAID I got it from RT and that it WASN'T available in US national media is amply documented.

But instead of learning something new about their world, slick, crappy, and (g)eezer would rather argue their pathetic little obsessions.

What small limited minds they must have. What claustrophobic mental warrens they must scrabble through.

If they ever want to get their minds out of their mingy little warrens and into the sunlight and fresh air of the real world, they have every opportunity.

But I'm guessing when they finally admit to themselves what a big FAIL they were in this thread, rather than connect with actual facts, they're only going to dig their mental tunnels deeper. And show up elsewhere doing exactly the same thing, no matter how clearly the facts are stated or how thoroughly they're documented.




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Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:31 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
harumph. I shouldn't have to find out about this in RT, but it seems no national media picked up on this story.





It's nothing new and effects so few people it would probable register at about .00000000001 % of the population.

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:46 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Hey there THUG - it's not too late to join the idiots!




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Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:47 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


G

Why do I think that is? Because US media isn't in the business of delivering news.




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Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:10 PM

CHRISISALL


Actual news doesn't make as much profit as home-spun yarns.

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:23 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Hey there THUG - it's not too late to join the idiots!




I'll stick to pointing you out thanks.


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Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


THUG: I'll stick to pointing you out thanks.

Hey, wallow in the cesspool all you want.

The more you make it about your need for me to be wrong - even when the facts are true and well-documented - the more you prove my point. So, yes, I encourage you to continue. Please be as much of an idiot as you want.

And, I forgot little jongsie. A shoutout to you too!




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Sunday, August 3, 2014 2:06 PM

SIGNYM

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Hey there THUG - it's not too late to join the idiots!-KIKI

I'll stick to pointing you out thanks. -THUGR


Pointing out WHAT? that - unlike you- KIKI brings real news to the real world events forum? That the only thing YOU bring to this forum is the ability to suck your own dick?

tsk! tsk! Really, THUGR!
But, thanks for pointing out yet again what a douche you are!
And thanks for the bump!

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 2:58 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Hey there THUG - it's not too late to join the idiots!-KIKI

I'll stick to pointing you out thanks. -THUGR


Pointing out WHAT? that - unlike you- KIKI brings real news to the real world events forum? That the only thing YOU bring to this forum is the ability to suck your own dick?

tsk! tsk! Really, THUGR!
But, thanks for pointing out yet again what a douche you are!
And thanks for the bump!



Here is another bump so I can remind you it is you and 1kiki always on the wrong side of most here, as this thread as well as most others shows. Suggesting it is me is laughable.

So far by my count their are six of you on these threads that the facts mean nothing to if it goes against what you wish to be true. Three of those are always bumping up against you and 1kiki and one can't figure out what he's about.


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Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"... always on the wrong side of most here ..." So, do you think facts are determined by popularity contests? And that being unpopular is the same as being factually wrong?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:05 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That the only thing YOU bring to this forum is the ability to suck your own dick?

YEEOWWW!! BuuuuuurN!!!
Wow, I thought I was a potty mouth!
You GO, girl!!

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:08 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"... always on the wrong side of most here ..." So, do you think facts are determined by popularity contests? And that being unpopular is the same as being factually wrong?



No weedhopper, I think what you present is not the facts but propaganda and therefore not real. I see you get called on it by others all the time. It is not unnoticed that you pretend that is not the case.

It's rather sad....


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Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:13 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:


No weedhopper, I think what you present is not the facts but propaganda and therefore not real.

WSS.*


*what Signy said

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:14 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That the only thing YOU bring to this forum is the ability to suck your own dick?

YEEOWWW!! BuuuuuurN!!!
Wow, I thought I was a potty mouth!
You GO, girl!!



Ok preciousssss, since you can't figure it out on your own, you must best someone to deliver said burn. What you witnessed was Sig's frustration implying she felt bested.

Have an adult explain it to you.

Time to make something else up to get attention.

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:27 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
CRAPPY, KIKI provides more than ample links for her statements. Unlike you. YOU, son, just bloviate all over the board and then run away. You refuse, among other things, to even answer questions about your own posts, much less provide a factual basis for them!

Quote:

So you say. I'll comment on what I DO know, not only what I'm told to think / believe. -rappy

So, you don't believe anything the press tells you about events far away, but prefer to base your information directly on your senses? Tell me... how did you know about Saddam's WMD, then? Did you see any personally?- signy


http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=58424

Run, little man, run!




Still no links to back up the claim that this bacteria was spread by connected to ' anything for a buck 'though. Which was my point here.

You irrationally migrated a quote from an entirely DIFFERENT topic, different thread, and are trying to start something literally out of nothing.

Just for your childish, petty desire to 'win' at something. ANYTHING. So starved for attention and validation. Sad.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"I think what you present is not the facts ..."

That btw is an OPINION.

So, show us you're not an idiot unable to learn from real things. Show us where there was no new study. Show us it didn't say what it said. Show us it was in national US media.

Or dig your warren ever deeper.

I'm curious if you have the brains to manage a simple reality check.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:19 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just for your childish, petty desire to 'win' at something. ANYTHING.

WHAT?!?!? Ha ha ha ha, she REGULARLY trounces your near-worthless subjective opinions. LOL! She has no need to 'win'.

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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this is my kitty typing. 7h745888888888888888888888888888888888884444488888888888888888888888888888888888888888566666e makes more sense 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 than you




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Sunday, August 3, 2014 9:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Just keep reminding us how small-minded you are. I'm sure you'll be able to manage.




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Sunday, August 3, 2014 9:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"... no matter what you're looking for you can find a web site to substantiate your pov. It's not news finding you, it's you finding the news YOU WANT. ... you are part of a population segment, a segment that is marketed to with negative stories about the US or catastrophic angled stories."

Now here's the thing. I didn't go looking for it. It was sent to me by someone with a strong interest in the field. I didn't even realize it came from RT until I went to verify it. See was happens when you ASSume?

"catastrophic angled stories ... that is in truth, not so different than previous stories"

So, how would you know it's 'catastrophic angled' and not a real catastrophe in the making? Is that your professional judgment? Do you have some facts, some reasoning to substantiate your dismissal?

Or is this new information? The fact that this increase was found in community hospitals and not last-resort research hospitals certainly seemed important to the authors. And in fact this is the first time this increase has been seen outside the walls of major medical centers. That indicates the bacteria is coming from the community.

So, is that new information? Important information? Information you should know about? Or are you going to dismiss the findings simply because the study authors had the misfortune to be written about in RT?

BTW, you don't need to answer that. We already know your bias. You proclaimed it loud and clear when you indicated you had problems with the information in RT, ZH, and GR - not because it was false but because of where it was. YOU are the one who accepts and rejects information depending on whether or not it comes from the 'right' source.

You certainly don't do it on the basis of facts and reasoning.




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Monday, August 4, 2014 11:38 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just for your childish, petty desire to 'win' at something. ANYTHING.

WHAT?!?!? Ha ha ha ha, she REGULARLY trounces your near-worthless subjective opinions. LOL! She has no need to 'win'.



She next to never trounces me or anyone.
It's funny you think that though.

Ha.

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Monday, August 4, 2014 12:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I don't accept or reject - I question ALL sources, just some way more than others. Like posters - some are more reasoned than others.

Yep, just more crap outa' you. If it had come from the NYTimes - I guarantee you wouldn't have dismissed it. It would have been 'serious'. Important. As it was, you were so biased against it you couldn't even be bothered to check it out before you proclaimed it bogus. You did the same in the 'new kind of Ebola' thread. Dismissed the source and utterly failed to check out the story.

BTW, this is the list I'm starting of threads where you blew past important news because it came from a source you didn't 'like'. 'Cause that's your thang. Your stupidity in all its glory. Two in two days. Want to go for three out of three?

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58434
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mreply.aspx?mid=981026




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Monday, August 4, 2014 12:07 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh Chris, I'm sorry! Occasionally my potty-mouth DOES make an appearance, and I tell people exactly what I think of them, in graphic terms. Does it help to know that I censor 99% of it out?

Sorry for the slip-up!

---------
I am not a peaceful person.

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Monday, August 4, 2014 12:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine The American Crisis




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Monday, August 4, 2014 3:10 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine The American Crisis




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.



To argue with a woman who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - THGRRI


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