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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 2:44 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
And the false narrative continues. Anything to attack & besmirch, when "honest" debate just won't do.

"Nothing" about conservatism has a jot to do with the Confederacy. It really harkens to the "basic ideals" that forged the foundation of this great nation, the revolution . . . blah, blah, blah.

Honest my ass. Get down from high horse, AURaptor.

You need a lesson, as do the liberals. There is a Georgia story and Bundy story here, too : www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/clive-bundy-and-the-tyran
ny-all-around-us/361039
/
Cliven Bundy and the Tyranny All Around Us
Ta-Nehisi Coates :: The Atlantic

I've been laughing my way through the Cliven Bundy fiasco because, as Jamelle Bouie suggests, there may be no better example of racist privilege than the right to flout the government's authority and then back its agents down at gunpoint. Bouie asks, hypothetically, how we'd respond if Bundy were black.

Inasmuch as this is even a question, American history has already answered it (emphasis added):

In an 18-month investigation, The Associated Press documented a pattern in which black Americans were cheated out of their land or driven from it through intimidation, violence and even murder.

In some cases, government officials approved the land takings; in others, they took part in them. The earliest occurred before the Civil War; others are being litigated today. Some of the land taken from black families has become a country club in Virginia, oil fields in Mississippi, a major-league baseball spring training facility in Florida ...

The AP —- in an investigation that included interviews with more than 1,000 people and the examination of tens of thousands of public records in county courthouses and state and federal archives —- documented 107 land takings in 13 Southern and border states.

In those cases alone, 406 black landowners lost more than 24,000 acres of farm and timber land plus 85 smaller properties, including stores and city lots. Today, virtually all of this property, valued at tens of millions of dollars, is owned by whites or by corporations.

That is from the AP's exceptional (and oft-overlooked) 2001 series "Torn From The Land." What generally followed this tearing was not a patriotic defense of the little guy but mob violence and ethnic cleansing. In 1912, Forsyth County, Georgia, expelled 1,000 black people —- 10 percent of its total population —- and appropriated their land. (For more on the subject, I suggest Marco Williams's superb documentary Banished.) The unfortunate fact is that plunder—of land, labor, children, whatever—is a defining characteristic of this country's relationship with black people. American militias have rarely formed to end that sort of plunder. They've generally formed to enable it.

The thing to do here, as Chris Hayes points out, is not to argue that Bundy should be subject to the kind of violence that black people who find themselves in dispute with the government's agents often are. (There's nothing for liberals to cheer about in a running gunfight over grazing fees.) The thing to do is to recognize the limits of our sympathies and try to extend them. "How about widening the aperture," Hayes asks, "for the tyranny you see all around you?"

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:05 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I'm on no high horse & the lesson to be learned is by you, second.

You're wrong about this entire issue.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 4:59 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're wrong about this entire issue.

No Rick, he ain't.
There, according to your way of debating, I just proved it conclusively.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:07 PM

STORYMARK


HA!

One of those funny/sad situations - since he really does think that constitutes a cogent argument.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're wrong about this entire issue.

No Rick(?), he ain't.
There, according to your way of debating, I just proved it conclusively.



Yes, he / she is. ( blue avatar chick implies second is female. What ever )

Let's review the list of inaccuracies and pointless, baseless lies.

1. I'm fully on the side of the Bundy family: WRONG - I believe all I've said about the issue , pertaining to who is right or wrong, is that the Feds shot some of his cattle, and that they've gone way over board in their show of force.

2. I live in or around Stone Mountain GA: Wrong. Never have. Sorry. Thems the facts. ( What truly is funny as hell is that the " spot on " map has me allegedly living ON THE GORRAM MOUNTAIN !! ROFLMAO !!! ) Crassic!

3. Because I lived in the close proximity of Stone Mountain, I MUST be some Confederate nutjob, which automatically makes me a racist, etc... completely false.

4. And since I fully support Cliven Bundy, and live near Stone Mountain, and because ALL those who support him are Confederate sympathizers, they, and I , are ALL racists. ( This includes every TEA party patriot, and everyone who did NOT vote for Obama. )

5. The mere idea that a person's physical location is what solely determines how they think, what they believe, etc... is beyond question - WRONG.

Funny, the idiot fascists who claim to be so tolerant, anti-prejudiced and against bigotry are the very ones displaying those exact qualities. Far more than anyone they accuse of doing.


John's Creek is not in zipcode 30033.

And why in the HELL would you blatantly post another Browncoats name on the internet, w/ out their permission?

Planning to visit them ?


Just more proof what fucking psychopathic assholes that lurk on this site. Sad.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:11 PM

CHRISISALL


AU, your holier-than-thou, always-right-all-the-time attitude has made some (including me at times) pretty fucking tired of the shit.
I see your positive points, but mainly in your non-political posts.
Suggestion: post in the entertainment areas only where we seem to get along fine. Your political views are too out there to ever be taken seriously by any but the most damaged individuals or corporate controllers.
Also, anyone can now get anyone's name, address & mortgage payments online. There is no anonymity any more.
I blame Al Gore.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Every single point I brought up in this thread is , hate to say, dead on accurate.

If you think it isn't, prove me wrong.

Or kindly shut the fuck up.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:44 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Every single point I brought up in this thread is , hate to say, dead on accurate.

If you think it isn't, prove me wrong.

Or kindly shut the fuck up.

You cannot be proven wrong (to YOU), because your definition of proof is that which does not exist. You have a history of not being able to understand facts as they apply to any given situation. You would need to drop your inability to see your possible error. See, I can be wrong. I accept this. And I HAVE been wrong on many occasions and on multiple levels, and I attempt to learn from my mistaken interpretations of things. I would humbly (well, not really 'humbly') suggest you do the same.

*Yet another attempt to reach a point of reason; I must love lost causes*

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:57 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Every single point I brought up in this thread is , hate to say, dead on accurate.

If you think it isn't, prove me wrong.

Or kindly shut the fuck up.

You cannot be proven wrong (to YOU), because your definition of proof is that which does not exist. You have a history of not being able to understand facts as they apply to any given situation. You would need to drop your inability to see your possible error. See, I can be wrong. I accept this. And I HAVE been wrong on many occasions and on multiple levels, and I attempt to learn from my mistaken interpretations of things. I would humbly (well, not really 'humbly') suggest you do the same.

*Yet another attempt to reach a point of reason; I must love lost causes*



Hey dumbass - SHOW where I was wrong, and stop your bitchin'. Of the points I listed, where am I wrong ?

Here - Pick one, any one.

1. I'm fully on the side of the Bundy family: WRONG - I believe all I've said about the issue , pertaining to who is right or wrong, is that the Feds shot some of his cattle, and that they've gone way over board in their show of force.

2. I live in or around Stone Mountain GA: Wrong. Never have. Sorry. Thems the facts. ( What truly is funny as hell is that the " spot on " map has me allegedly living ON THE GORRAM MOUNTAIN !! ROFLMAO !!! ) Crassic!

3. Because I lived in the close proximity of Stone Mountain, I MUST be some Confederate nutjob, which automatically makes me a racist, etc... completely false.

4. And since I fully support Cliven Bundy, and live near Stone Mountain, and because ALL those who support him are Confederate sympathizers, they, and I , are ALL racists. ( This includes every TEA party patriot, and everyone who did NOT vote for Obama. )

5. The mere idea that a person's physical location is what solely determines how they think, what they believe, etc... is beyond question - WRONG.




Excuse making is what you appear to love most.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:04 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hey dumbass - SHOW where I was wrong

I already explained that you cannot be 'shown'. Why on Earth would I expend the time to cut/paste/explain it to you just to get another "You just proved me right" retort?
Kiss my freckled butt.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:09 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hey dumbass - SHOW where I was wrong

I already explained that you cannot be 'shown'. Why on Earth would I expend the time to cut/paste/explain it to you just to get another "You just proved me right" retort?
Kiss my freckled butt.



Supported Cliven Bundy ? No ? Can't show where I did that, can you ?

Lived in or around ( the city of ) Stone Mountain ? Not gonna give that one a try, huh?

Or maybe you'd like to defend the bigoted claim that a person is bound to think a certain way, simply because of where they live ( or don't live ) ? That'd be your best best, if you were man enough. Guess not.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:15 PM

CHRISISALL


I do not feel my freckled butt kissed here.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:17 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
I do not feel my freckled butt kissed here.



You'll freely make baseless, empty claims, but you'll never back them up ?

OK, got it.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:19 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I stopped reading a while back when it turned into a Raptorfest. So, to get back on track, this seems to have been completely left behind:

Then there's Bundy himself, who apparently has no problem lying outright:
Quote:

“I’ve lived my lifetime here. My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley here ever since 1877. All these rights that I claim, have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water and the access and range improvements.” http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25301551/bundys-ancestral-rights-come-un
der-scrutiny



While it may come as no surprise that Fox news, along with all of the other right wing media outlets that pushed Bundy’s narrative, never bothered to fact check these claims, local reporters from KLAS -TV decided to check the historical records. What they discovered is that the Bundy family purchased the land on which Cliven Bundy’s ranch is located in 1948, from Raoul and Ruth Levin. The record also shows that prior to 1948, the Bundy family resided in the state of Arizona. So he lied.

Also, he claimed his family was there before the creation of the BLM:
Quote:

“My rights are before the BLM even existed, but my rights are created by beneficial use. Beneficial use means we created the forage and the water from the time the very first pioneers come here...” “My rights are before the BLM even existed, but my rights are created by beneficial use. Beneficial use means we created the forage and the water from the time the very first pioneers come here,”


Records show that the Bundy family was never granted water rights for land that borders the 160 acre ranch. The BLM also began managing the land in question two years before the Bundy’s even moved from the state of Arizona to Nevada. What’s more, the Bundy family didn’t begin to graze cattle on the federal land in question until 1954, a full ten years after the BLM was formed. So he lied about several things.

Seems to me that while Cliven Bundy has never had the legal right to graze his cattle on land that he does not own, his fake plight has been hyped by conservative media outlets across the country, that right-wing media jumped on this story is because it furthers the narrative of the big, bad evil government encroaching on the ‘little guy.’ As it turns out, everything Bundy has said about his ‘ancestral rights’ is just another bold faced lie, being told by another right wing ‘patriot’ con artist who just wants to get richer and not pay his taxes.


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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:25 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hey dumbass - SHOW where I was wrong

I already explained that you cannot be 'shown'. Why on Earth would I expend the time to cut/paste/explain it to you just to get another "You just proved me right" retort?
Kiss my freckled butt.



Rappy can't be shown, but I can show everyone else.

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Both sides have their points, as well as their flaws.

The plans by the Feds to come in , guns a blazin, against civilians,don't seem to offend Niki too much. Just the tactics of the ranchers who are tired of being bullied by an over reacting Fed Govt.

Initial claims of $ 1 million in unpaid fees for grazing on BLM land are beyond ridiculous. No way could the bill be that much. I heard the came back and actually said the $ owed was a couple of hundred thousand dollars.



The Feds did not come in with guns blazing. They started to round up the cows that were illegally on federal land. Rappy will claim something about cows being shot, but that is a claim being made by Bundy and his supporters. Had the Feds come in guns blazing we would have had a bunch of dead protesters.

Bundy does indeed own over $1 million in unpaid fees and fines. He was being fined $200 per day per head of cattle for not removing them from federal land. He has around 900 cattle.

Of course in the end Bundy will lose. The government simply had to let this issue settle down, and watch. When Bundy tries to sell any of his cattle they notify potential buyers that the cattle is the federal governments and will be confiscated. Bundy will not be able to sell the cattle and at some point will be bankrupt.

No need for guns blazing.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:27 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
everything Bundy has said about his ‘ancestral rights’ is just another bold faced lie, being told by another right wing ‘patriot’ con artist who just wants to get richer and not pay his taxes.

Well done, Niki!!!

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:33 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:



Rappy will claim something about cows being shot, but that is a claim being made by Bundy and his supporters



http://www.inquisitr.com/1220627/bundy-ranch-cliven-bundy-discovers-bl
m-mass-cow-graves-graphic-images
/ ( prolly fake )

http://www.naturalnews.com/044746_animal_atrocities_mass_graves_Bundy_
Ranch.html
( more Bundy supporters )



Prolly just taking a nap, tired from all that illegal grazing, huh?

Help me out here. Refute these , so I don't have to sleep at night, thinking the BLM actually committed atrocities.

TIA

( And I believe I said 'cattle', and not cow or cows. )

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:38 PM

CHRISISALL


That ain't no Bundy cattle.
"Here's just one..."
Oh yeah, just one.
Cowpies.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:40 PM

REAVERFAN


Rappy gets pwned again. Predictable.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:47 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
( And I believe I said 'cattle', and not cow or cows. )

And that changes the validity of these dubious links exactly how....?

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:49 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
That ain't no Bundy cattle.
"Here's just one..."
Oh yeah, just one.
Cowpies.



When asked if they had received any explanation from the BLM regarding the dead cattle, Carol said they are not in communication with the agency. The family says they have found a total of eight dead cows so far — “four from the pit, two in the corral and then two bulls out on the range that we found.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/21/bundy-family-claims-to-have
-uncovered-disturbing-new-evidence-in-aftermath-of-tense-ranch-battle-with-feds
/


Just one, huh ?

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:52 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
( And I believe I said 'cattle', and not cow or cows. )

And that changes the validity of these dubious links exactly how....?



Oh, we agree. Very dubious. Only, I don't see anyone refuting them, other than ' Nuh-uh ! ' type remarks.


Funny, use to be a past time of you and others to claim I never cited anything. And when I do, they get dismissed, out of hand, and called 'dubious'.

Literally no winning with you cultists, is there ?

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:54 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Rappy gets pwned again. Predictable.



Really? Pwned ? How so ? Can you elaborate on exactly how ?

Or are just acting like a 5 year old, unable to offer anything of substance ?

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:56 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just one, huh ?

I said two definitely, but I may not be in possession of all the facts.
Errr, I mean, YES, I am correct! YOU are wrong!! There, that proves it!
Say something else so's I can employ the deadly rubber/glue gambit! I double dawg dare ya!

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:58 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Funny, use to be a past time of you and others to claim I never cited anything. And when I do, they get dismissed, out of hand, and called 'dubious'.
Literally no winning with you cultists, is there ?

As long as you cite shit sites, not really.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:59 PM

JONGSSTRAW


If Bundy was a homo all the libtards would be defending his ass 'til the cows came home.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:01 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
If Bundy was a homo all the libtards would be defending his ass 'til the cows came home.



There is all manner of potential there, but I'm not touching it with a 10 meter cattle prod.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Funny, use to be a past time of you and others to claim I never cited anything. And when I do, they get dismissed, out of hand, and called 'dubious'.
Literally no winning with you cultists, is there ?

As long as you cite shit sites, not really.



Gimmie something from ABC, CNN, MSNBC or a 'peer reviewed ' cite to clarify and put this matter to bed.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:03 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
libtards

You are fined one credit.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:06 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Gimmie something from ABC, CNN, MSNBC or a 'peer reviewed ' cite to clarify and put this matter to bed.

I give you what you give us: nothing.
Gimmie gimmie... go beg in front of the Stock Exchange.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:09 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Gimmie something from ABC, CNN, MSNBC or a 'peer reviewed ' cite to clarify and put this matter to bed.

I give you what you give us: nothing.
Gimmie gimmie... go beg in front of the Stock Exchange.



Actually, I gave you cites, links, pics and a very relevant South Park clip.


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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:26 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
If Bundy was a homo all the libtards would be defending his ass 'til the cows came home.



There is all manner of potential there, but I'm not touching it with a 10 meter cattle prod.


Spare the prod, just smack 'em.

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 1:12 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.






OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 3:18 AM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
If Bundy was a homo all the libtards would be defending his ass 'til the cows came home.




And if he was black, you'd say that he's lazy because he never learned to pick cotton.



Oh, wait - that's what HE said over the weekend about "the negro."


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/24/conservatives-begin-backing-away
-after-cliven-bundys-remarks-disparaging-the-negro
/

Jongsstraw: "Fuck you and the gangbanged skank that didn't abort you."
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=56881

"If you don't know that, you're just a huge fucking idiot."
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=56819&p=2

"Prove you're not an asshole."
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=56761

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:19 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Whatever happened to
Quote:

He may not change, but the conversation can - if we decide to do it.

Right now all we've done is segue from every thread becoming about him - to every thread becoming a series of pics and comments about how we're not gong to let it be about him.

Just actually ignore the little shit. He can keep spewing - but we don't have to let him dominate EVERY GODDAMNED conversation.

Maybe we need some sort of designation. The first person to acknowledge any of that shit is the "sucker of the day" or something.


Oh, and the next time there's a complaint about something posted from HuffPost, Raw Story, Crooks and Liars, DemocraticUnderground, etc., let's remember that The Blaze and Inquisitor are considered "legit". Just sayin'...


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Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:37 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Prove the substance to be false, if you can.

( I stopped short of posting anything from infowars, so cut me SOME slack )

ETA - caught up to speed with Cliven's " pickin cotton " remarks, in full context.

He's nuts, and greatly ignorant. And wrong, about a great deal. Dunno if that makes the use of force by the Feds any less reprehensible though. As I stated from my 1st post , there's plenty of wrong done by both sides.


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Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
He's nuts, and greatly ignorant. And wrong, about a great deal. Dunno if that makes the use of force by the Feds any less reprehensible though.

Stop with the crap about "Dunno". Convince me of your high-minded sentiments. Do you think Fed force is wrong in the hypothetical case, below? Tell me the truth, which requires your explanation of how the Feds can avoid using force. You're not allowed to suggest anything remotely like the Feds should just wait patiently until Bundy changes his mind voluntarily, no matter how long it takes.

Imagine the reaction if a young black man, named Bundy, living in my gentrifying neighborhood reacted to some adverse change in government policy — perhaps funding cuts led a bus line in the neighborhood to get shut down — by stealing a bus. Then when the cops come to take the bus back, he brings out fifty friends, some of them armed, and start talking about putting the women out front so they'll be shot first. My overwhelming presupposition is that he'd end up shot dead, along with his armed buddies, and that would about be the end of it. There would be no partisan political controversy about whether or not it is appropriate for black Bundy to react to changes in bus route planning with violence.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 1:52 PM

AURAPTOR

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#2 - you're among the last I'll bother replying to here . You're in no position to tell anyone to stop in how they think or feel.

I'll deal in the facts, first. You can play in fantasy land.

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 3:11 PM

OONJERAH


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Whatever happened to
Quote:

He may not change, but the conversation can - if we decide to do it.

Right now all we've done is segue from every thread becoming about him - to every thread becoming a series of pics and comments about how we're not gong to let it be about him.

Just actually ignore the little shit. He can keep spewing - but we don't have to let him dominate EVERY GODDAMNED conversation.

Maybe we need some sort of designation. The first person to acknowledge any of that shit is the "sucker of the day" or something.





Excuse me. Suggestion:

He likes to start a lot of threads.
He pisses some folks off so much, they still feel the need to reply to him.
Others just like to slap him around. If so, speak to him in his own threads.

Answer to him in a thread intended for general conversation & real com-
munication, then you're the "Sucker of the Day."



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Thursday, April 24, 2014 3:23 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Quote:

He likes to start a lot of threads.


Who starts a lot of threads ?

Niki? 1kiki ?

Hmm?

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Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:24 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nothing about conservatism has a jot to do with the Confederacy. It really harkens to the basic ideals that forged the foundation of this great nation, the revolution ,which is why the TEA party symbol is the Gadsden flag, & not some confederate battle flag.




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Friday, April 25, 2014 12:47 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
That ain't no Bundy cattle.
"Here's just one..."
Oh yeah, just one.
Cowpies.



When asked if they had received any explanation from the BLM regarding the dead cattle, Carol said they are not in communication with the agency. The family says they have found a total of eight dead cows so far — “four from the pit, two in the corral and then two bulls out on the range that we found.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/21/bundy-family-claims-to-have
-uncovered-disturbing-new-evidence-in-aftermath-of-tense-ranch-battle-with-feds
/


Just one, huh ?



The family claims...the same family that has lied about having rights to the land? Yes really believable.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, April 25, 2014 12:50 AM

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Think they shot their own cattle ?

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Friday, April 25, 2014 8:06 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Think they shot their own cattle ?



I would not put that past them. Man could get that desperate knowing that sooner of later Uncle Sam is going to collect on that $1 million dollar debt.


....oh, and we have a program to feed the poor.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, April 25, 2014 9:29 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Think they shot their own cattle ?



I would not put that past them. Man could get that desperate knowing that sooner of later Uncle Sam is going to collect on that $1 million dollar debt.





Chrissy mentioned that the Feds admitted to shooting the animals, out of fear for their lives. Did ya miss that ?

( unconfirmed reports that there may have been a 2nd shooter are still being checked out. )

Quote:


....oh, and we have a program to feed the poor.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



Right. Barry's ever exanding Food Stamp campaign. Can't allow THAT to be held in check , can we ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, April 25, 2014 11:48 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Think they shot their own cattle ?



I would not put that past them. Man could get that desperate knowing that sooner of later Uncle Sam is going to collect on that $1 million dollar debt.





Chrissy mentioned that the Feds admitted to shooting the animals, out of fear for their lives. Did ya miss that ?

( unconfirmed reports that there may have been a 2nd shooter are still being checked out. )

Quote:


....oh, and we have a program to feed the poor.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



Right. Barry's ever exanding Food Stamp campaign. Can't allow THAT to be held in check , can we ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall



You mean this quote?

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
They shot his cattle? Really?
I thought they just shot two of his Bulls out of fear for their pansy asses (No, I don't like how they handled themselves, but mess with the man & his FEES and shit WILL happen).



That really proves it, right?

Oh, and the foodstamp program is not Obama's it has been in place for years. You failing at civics is nothing new.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:16 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
That really proves it, right?

Little Ricky takes proof wherever he can manufacture it without any 'splainin' to do.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:06 AM

ELVISCHRIST




The feds goddamned well should shoot this asshole's cattle. They're trespassing and he's a freeloader.

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Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:20 AM

OONJERAH



Out to the range land, they sent agents who don't speak "Moo" ?

Local Animal Control coulda handled it much better, I Am Sure.



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Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:


The feds goddamned well should shoot this asshole's cattle. They're trespassing and he's a freeloader.





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