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Knock out ! The fun new game that's sweeping the nation !!
Thursday, November 28, 2013 7:55 PM
ELVISCHRIST
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Folks on a TV show talking about it does not mean it is a real thing. Still waiting for some solid evidence. I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:04 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Folks on a TV show talking about it does not mean it is a real thing. Still waiting for some solid evidence. I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man. That's a long wait for a train don't come.
Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:09 PM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Yep. CNN is just making it all up, as they are want to do.
Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:07 PM
Friday, November 29, 2013 9:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Yep. CNN is just making it all up, as they are want to do. Not making it all up but connecting dots that are not there. Again, show us the hard evidence. I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
Friday, November 29, 2013 9:33 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:New York police Thursday were investigating a sucker-punch assault on a 23-year-old man for a possible connection to a series of attacks known as the "knockout game." Nothing was taken from the man, and police were looking into a possible link to assaults around the country where teens randomly try to make strangers unconscious with a single blow. The victim suffered bruising and swelling to his face but refused medical treatment. At least eight suspected "knockout" attacks have been reported since October in New York, but police have said they see no evidence of a trend. In New Haven, Connecticut, police said there were seven reported incidents possibly connected to "knockout" assaults, but it was unclear if they were carried out by the same person. There were no major injuries in the attacks, which occurred in the same three- to four-block area on November 17-18. The assaults stopped after police questioned a suspect, though no arrest was made. "We have no reason to believe this is a hate crime," said Officer David Hartman, a New Haven police spokesman. Some previous assaults in the region have targeted Jewish people. Hartman said police believe the attacks were copycat crimes spurred by media attention. Youth violence expert Chuck Williams blamed the media and parents for what he called extreme aggression by America's youths. Negative attention, he said, is often rewarded. "We market violence to our children and we wonder why they're violent. It's because we are," he said. Williams, a professor of psychology and education at Drexel University in Philadelphia, said some young people are desperate for attention. He called it the "Miley Cyrus effect," where teens will do anything to get noticed, no matter how unconscionable. "These kids know the consequences," he said. "They want to get arrested. They want to get caught, because they want that notoriety. They know they won't go away forever because they're kids. It's a win-win all around for them." http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/28/justice/new-york-knockout-game-assault/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1]
Quote:Indeed, when asked about the “knockout game,” law enforcement has been skeptical. According to a recent New York Times piece, “[P]olice officials in several cities where such attacks have been reported said that the ‘game’ amounted to little more than an urban myth, and that the attacks in question might be nothing more than the sort of random assaults that have always occurred.” The case for “myth” is bolstered further by the fact that the “knockout game” has been cited as far back as 1992, when it was compared to “wilding” as an example of dangerous teen behavior. What’s more, several widely circulated stories concerning the game have been debunked by websites such as Snopes, which note that they have no “verifying information.” http://forum.darwincentral.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=70067&start=25
Quote:But the question isn’t whether these random assaults happen. Of course they do. The question is whether this is a new dimension of urban crime, or a new name for an old phenomenon. Most of the evidence points to the latter. For starters, it’s not hard to find reports of senseless attacks on innocent bystanders. In 2011 in Washington, D.C., for instance, there were nearly 1,700 assaults excluding guns, including a random attack by a group of teenagers in a subway station. Violent crime is a fact of life in American cities, though it’s infrequent and on the decline, and that includes muggings and attacks by strangers. On top of all of this, it’s worth emphasizing the broad picture. Overall, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s 2012 crime report, there were an estimated 127,577 assaults with “hands and fists” in American cities with more than 250,000 people, a 0.7 percent increase from the previous year. The “knockout game” may or may not be a new phenomenon, but with a few instances out of tens of thousands of assaults, it’s not a trend, and media outlets shouldn’t treat it as one. A few teens may describe their behavior as a game, but to hold them up as signs of a crime wave is to cherry-pick data and mislead the audience. A little incredulity, in other words, would go a long way. One last thing: Race is an obvious element in all of this. In many of the reports, the assailants are described as young black men, and many of the victims have been white. It’s hard not to see the sensationalized coverage of “knockout”—and before that, “wilding”—as a reflection of our national fear of young black men. Indeed, in the more sinister corners of the Internet, you can find people who argue that these incidents are the opening shots in a “race war” by “feral black youth.” Which means that, if the past is any indication, today’s panic over “knockout” is almost certain to become tomorrow’s excuse for justifying our skepticism and fear of black teenagers.
Friday, November 29, 2013 9:41 AM
Quote:Unless you spent the whole month of November on vacation, you’ve probably been hearing about the “Knockout Game.” According to the news of the last few weeks, it’s a brand new game, spreading all over the country, in which young, African-American teenagers — sometimes alone, sometimes in groups — come up to innocent, unsuspecting people and try to knock them out with one punch. This has been happening all over the place — including dozens of times right here in Philly — and no one in safe. But Barack Obama won’t condemn it. Neither will Al Sharpton. Right? In fact, the prevailing media narrative of the Knockout Game is starting to look completely wrong. Yes, the Knockout Game exists. These assaults have happened, and we’ve seen video of them. But the many assumptions associated with the “Game” — that it’s new, that it’s a widespread phenomenon, that it’s a major thing that’s happening everywhere, and that it is always black-on-white — are overhyped if not completely false. Anyone physically assaulting another person should be arrested and hauled off to jail for a long time, whether they’re playing the “Game” or not. That should go without saying. Those who have been assaulted in this way have my deepest sympathies. If police wish to charge the assailants with a hate crime — as they have in a couple of instances in New York in which Orthodox Jews were allegedly targeted — that’s certainly valid. It also appears most people committing such assaults have been quickly caught; after all, criminals who videotape their crimes and upload them to social networks under their own names tend to not remain free for long. But the media narrative of the Knockout Game sounds highly suspicious, and something’s been off about it from the beginning. It reminds a lot me of “wilding” and “Satanic ritual abuse.” It’s something for local newscasts to hype up to scare their audiences — just another thing that just might kill you or your children when you leave the house tomorrow, along with bird flu and unsafe child car seats. First of all, this “game” is not new. There have been reports of bored teenagers punching random people for years, by some accounts going back to the early 1990s. Nor is random assault a new phenomenon. And the implication that the only people who punch others in the head are black teenagers should come as news to anyone who’s ever spent an afternoon in the upper deck at an Eagles game. I don’t buy that it’s suddenly widespread, either. Philadelphia police sources told the Daily News in an article published Monday that there has been one — that’s right, one — confirmed case of the Knockout Game in the city among recent assaults ( http://articles.philly.com /2013-11-26/news/44453303_1_knockout-game-fox-chase-assaults), a Fox Chase man. (The suspect in the high-profile Broad Street Puncher case, according to a SEPTA spokeswoman quoted by this website last week, was not participating in the “Game”, and had mental issues -- http://www.phillymag.com/news/ 2013/11/21/knockout-game-septa-police-person-interest-broad-street-puncher-case/) The skepticism extends outside Philly. A New York Times piece about the game ( http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/23/nyregion/knockout-game-a-spreading-menace-or-a-myth.html?_r=2&) quoted several law enforcement officials in different cities — including New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, no liberal softie he — as questioning and trying to determine whether or not the “Knockout Game” is an urban myth. And while Jersey City, N.J., has been on dozens of lists of cities where Knockout Game assaults have taken place, that city’s police spokesman told the Times that there have been no such incidents reported there. What we’re seeing is, every time there’s a mugging or violent assault anywhere, it’s attributed in media coverage to the Knockout Game, even when the connection is not confirmed — every single assault is now suddenly a “possible knockout.” That Daily News story also quoted police as saying that the city of Philadelphia, this year, has seen 5,000 aggravated assaults that haven’t involved guns. So if one or ten or 20 of those 5,000 have been the Knockout Game, I’m thinking this story has been somewhat overhyped, in relation to the city’s overall crime problem. Then there’s the tale of Beulah Montgomery, a 60-year-old woman who pulled a gun and shot and killed a pair of Knockout Game assailants, in a story that got tons of play in social media. Too bad the story was a complete fabrication. ( http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/montgomery.asp) Of course, there’s another, rather ugly side to this. Go and read the comments of just about every news article published online about the Knockout Game in the last few weeks, and you’ll notice a pattern emerging. It generally goes: Racial slur, racial slur, complaint that the media is ignoring the story, racial slur, violent gun-toting revenge fantasy, racial slur, complaint that the article downplayed the race of the suspects, concern trolling about absentee fathers, racial slur and “Where is Obama?” In the last few years, there’s been a concerted effort, in some of the less savory corners of right-wing media, to create a certain impression: That black-on-white violence is skyrocketing to out of control levels, and that white people should all be very, very afraid Sites like the Drudge Report and World Net Daily have hyped virtually every instance of such violence, always with the implication (or more than the implication: "Flash Mobs ARE Obama's America", http://www.breitbart.com/ Big-Government/2012/07/17/Flash-Mobs-ARE-Obama-s-America) that Obama is president, and why won’t he stop it? First of all, if there’s any data to show that black-on-white violent crime has spiked in recent years, locally or nationally, it has yet to be released from any reputable source. Overall crime statistics, in fact, have been trending downward for two decades. There’s absolutely no data to speak of showing that any such race-based explosion of violence has taken place- it’s nothing but argument by anecdote. As for Obama, he’s the president of the United States. His job description does not include supervision and discipline of all black people. The actions of black street criminals reflect on him only in the minds of pure, unreconstructed racists. Remember all those predictions about “race riots” after the George Zimmerman verdict ( https://www.google.com/search?q=Zimmerman+trial+race+riots&oq=Zimmerman+trial+race+riots&aqs=chrome ..69i57.7040j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv= 210&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8), the ones that never came to pass? There’s clearly a large audience that wants to hear that “the black kids are running wild,” regardless of whether or not it’s true. As for Al Sharpton refusing to condemn the attacks? He condemned the attacks, strongly. The New York Post responded by ripping him for not calling for marches against them ( http://nypost.com/2013/11/23/al-sharpton-condemns-knockout-attacks/). In the city of Philadelphia this year, there have been around 300 cases of murder and, as stated above, 5,000 assaults. There has been one confirmed case of the Knockout Game and, at most, a couple of dozen unconfirmed ones. Why in the world the Knockout Game has gotten more media attention than the murders is completely unfathomable. Will we still be talking about the Knockout Game in two months, or six months? Probably not, even though chances are it will be happening as frequently (or infrequently) then as it is now. http://www.phillymag.com/news/2013/11/26/weve-sucker-punched-knockout-game-myth/
Friday, November 29, 2013 9:55 AM
Friday, November 29, 2013 8:21 PM
REAVERFAN
Quote:Originally posted by G: If Wulfenstar were here he'd say: Nah, this is a racial thing. Black folks can be racist *ssholes too - anyone can. It also seems to be mostly teenagers - young enough to be stupid, old enough to be dangerous. Angry black man speaks out, language sensitive should not watch:
Friday, November 29, 2013 9:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: As noted by Mike Tyson, clobbering some stranger on the street isn't something new. But these aren't muggings. They're literally hit and run attacks.
Saturday, November 30, 2013 10:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: As noted by Mike Tyson, clobbering some stranger on the street isn't something new. But these aren't muggings. They're literally hit and run attacks. Okay, that is still not evidence of some game sweeping the nation. I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
Saturday, November 30, 2013 1:23 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, December 2, 2013 12:40 PM
STORYMARK
Monday, December 2, 2013 12:52 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: as they are want to do.
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Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: This is actually occurring.
Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:38 AM
Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: So, if it's not being reported, it's not worth worrying about ? But if it IS being reported, it's being over blown, or there are other problems in the 'verse, so it's really no big deal, huh?
Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:50 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: You can't worry about these things. Just be alert to potentially dangerous situations and avoid them. That's always been the wise thing to do.
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Quote:"We had to spend a significant amount of resources unraveling the lies they told," said St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson. "That’s resources that could have been spent on other crimes and it damaged the perception of the city. I hope these two individuals get help in their relationship."
Quote:The Pittsburgh teacher was seen on video in October 2012 getting hit in the back of the head so hard that he instantly blacked out and fell face-first into the pavement. Addlespurger says the security footage has been used to identify the supposed "trend" -- and it's played on TV news shows countless times -- but he doesn't call the attack a "Knockout Game." He simply calls it "assault." "I feel like I'm exploited," Addlespurger told HuffPost Live. "People need a label. If they're selling toothpaste or CDs, or news stories, they need a label ... To me it's an assault, plain and simple." The supposed trend, he says, evolved from his and a few other videos on the Internet showing men recording themselves knocking people out. But just because you can find it on YouTube doesn't mean it's a violent trend. "Butt slapping," for instance, is not a violent sex crime trend, but news stations have already begun to imply that it is, using only one person as a source ( http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/article/347377/8/Mom-Students-threatened-to-hit-daughters-behind).
Friday, December 13, 2013 1:59 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: How do you know they're not growing ?
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Friday, December 27, 2013 12:34 PM
Quote:Conrad Alvin Barrett, 27, has been charged with a federal hate crime related to a racially-motivated assault of a 79-year-old African American man, announced Acting Assistant Attorney General Jocelyn Samuels of the Civil Rights Division along with U.S. Attorney Kenneth Magidson of the Southern District of Texas and Special Agent in Charge Stephen L. Morris of the FBI. The complaint charges Barrett, of Katy, Texas, with attacking the elderly man because of the man’s race and color in what Barrett called a “knockout.” Barrett allegedly recorded himself on his cell phone attacking the man and showed the video to others. The complaint alleges Barrett made several videos, one in which he identifies himself and another in which he makes a racial slur. In addition, Barrett had allegedly been working up the “courage” to play the “knockout game” for approximately a week. According to the complaint, Barrett comments in a video that “the plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?” The complaint further alleges Barrett claims he would not hit “defenseless people” just moments before punching the elderly man in the face. Barrett allegedly hit the man with such force that the man immediately fell to the ground. Barrett then laughed and said “knockout,” as he ran to his vehicle and fled, according to allegations. The complaint indicates the victim suffered two jaw fractures and was hospitalized for several days as a result of the attack. http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2013/December/13-crt-1366.html
Friday, December 27, 2013 5:20 PM
Thursday, January 2, 2014 10:16 PM
Quote:Fox Airs Inaccurate Report on Media-Fueled ‘Knockout Game’ Hate Crime Against Elderly Black Man Last week, the Department of Justice filed hate crimes charges against 27-year-old white male Conrad Alvin Barrett for allegedly assaulting a 79-year-old black man, knocking him to the ground and fracturing his jaw in two places. Police recovered video from the suspect in which he says he was looking for a black victim, in order to test media reaction to the attack. Over the weekend, Fox News’ James Rosen filed a report on the incident that contained several misleading, or outright false, claims and significant factual omissions. Cable news outlets have come under intense criticism over their coverage of the so-called “Knockout Game,” which some critics say is being overhyped, and others claim is ignoring a racial aspect to the crimes. The suspect in this case attempted to settle that debate, according to the Justice Department, by seeing “if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?” “At least 25 times in the last two years, cowardly urban thugs have snuck up on innocent victims and knocked them unconscious with a single blow and fled the scene,” Rosen said, adding that this attack is the first to have been “charged by federal, and not local, authorities, and for the first time under a hate crime statute.” Rosen is correct that this is the first of these recent attacks to be charged federally, but not the first to be charged under a hate crimes statute. It’s possible, though, that Rosen meant to extend the “federal” distinction to the statute. He added that Barrett “made several videos in the cell phone where he identified himself and used a racial slur on African-Americans, and stated his intent to victimize a black man in this fashion in order to receive national media attention.” Rosen failed to disclose, however, that the motive was not simply to gain media attention, but to test media reaction to a white attacker of a black victim. The DOJ quotes Barrett in one of those videos as saying “the plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?” In an O’Reilly Factor segment just days before this attack, fill-in host Laura Ingraham similarly wondered to a panelist, “If this were overwhelmingly white teens, and they were going around all these cities across the United States, and they were cold-cocking elderly black people, would you be coming on The O’Reilly Factor and saying ‘I hate to generalize about quote bad behavior?’” Rosen then discussed the hate crimes aspect of these crimes, displaying a graphic which read “Knockout Game: A Hate Crime?” That graphic presents a misleading premise, as Barrett’s attack was charged as a hate crime not because it was a “knockout game” attack, but because the suspect explicitly said that he sought his victim on the basis of race. Additionally, one of the videos that Rosen presents as a “Knockout Game” attack, according to police, was not related to the “Knockout Game.” Rosen reinforced that premise by noting that, “In many of the past cases, the perpetrators were black, and the victims were white, and often, in a series of recent attacks in New York City, Jewish. Many analysts believe those cases possessed clear intent on the part of the perpetrators to single out on the basis of race and religion, but hate crimes charges were never pursued in the previous cases.” The last part of that statement, that “hate crimes charges were never pursued in the previous cases,” is completely false, an error compounded by the fact that Rosen specifically referenced the group of attacks that belie his claim. A November attack on a Jewish man, in New York City, did, in fact, result in a hate crimes charge against 28 year-old Amrit Marajh. Additionally, Rosen failed to note that in many of the cases he referenced, hate crimes charges haven’t been pursued because the suspects are still at large, but police are investigating them as hate crimes and/or “Knockout Game” attacks. For example, the NYPD is investigating, as a hate crime, an attack on 22 year-old Taj Patterson, a gay black man. Rosen’s reporting gives the impression that attacks by black suspects on white victims are being treated differently, but the facts he omits, or gets wrong, paint a different picture. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-airs-inaccurate-report-on-media-fueled-knockout-game-hate-crime-against-elderly-black-man/
Thursday, January 2, 2014 10:26 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
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Quote: Rose McGowan Comes to Aid of 'Knockout Game' Victim Rose McGowan found herself in the role of real-life crime fighter after witnessing a random attack on a senior citizen. The "Grindhouse" actress, 40, was enjoying the sunset with her pal and one-time reality TV star Courtenay Semel in Venice Beach, California, on Thursday afternoon and soon after she witnessed a man being randomly assaulted by a masked assailant riding a skateboard. After coming to his aid, McGowan documented the drama, which she described as a "Knockout Game" attack, on Twitter. *rose mcgowan ? @rosemcgowan Follow I just witnessed a 65 year old man get punched by an evil guy playing that goddamn knockout game. #criminal #heartbroken #whattheF?! 9:23 PM - 2 Jan 2014 * rose mcgowan ? @rosemcgowan Follow Venice! Evil guy was wearing a mask RT @hideathfilms: @rosemcgowan no way! Here in Los Angeles? That's horrible. 9:25 PM - 2 Jan 2014 * He was on a skateboard. Too fast. I chased. RT @attitudemilo: @rosemcgowan even a pic of the masked coward ... http://tmi.me/1dfwwt 9:31 PM - 2 Jan 2014
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