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NOT GUILTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:52 PM

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Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:08 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Not guilty, and ....

Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz says the prosecutors in the George Zimmerman murder trial should be charged with "prosecutorial misconduct" for suggesting the defendant planned the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin. "These prosecutors should be disbarred. They have acted absolutely irresponsibly in an utterly un-American fashion."

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Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:37 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Only in America...........................

or should I say, Only in Florida................

Casey Anthony, add to George Zimmerman. You could kill someone, lie about it and get away with it.


SGG

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Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:39 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Whenever I'm in Florida, I'm going to assume that every white man is carrying a concealed gun and defend myself. Hell, if George could do it, so could I.


SGG

Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Not guilty, and ....

Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz says the prosecutors in the George Zimmerman murder trial should be charged with "prosecutorial misconduct" for suggesting the defendant planned the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin. "These prosecutors should be disbarred. They have acted absolutely irresponsibly in an utterly un-American fashion."


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Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:41 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


I expected a NG verdict, so I wasn't surprised. What would have shocked me, JUSTICE.


SGG

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Originally posted by PIRATENEWS:


https://www.google.com/search?q=zimmerman+not+guilty

They hate US for our juries.


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Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:50 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Only in America...........................

or should I say, Only in Florida................

Casey Anthony, add to George Zimmerman. You could kill someone, lie about it and get away with it.


SGG



Not true. 2 men were stabbed to death, here in Atlanta, and Ray Lewis got away, free and clear.

Not sure where you can say Zimmerman lied about anything, but just as it was w/ the Lewis case, you have cases where men walked after lives were taken.

Here, justice was served.

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Whenever I'm in Florida, I'm going to assume that every white man is carrying a concealed gun and defend myself. Hell, if George could do it, so could I.




Good luck w/ that.


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Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:02 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Alan Dershowitz is right about the incompetency of the prosecutors in this case, but he failed to mention the State Attorney Angela Corey in his condemnation. As in the Casey Anthony fiasco, the State Attorney over-charged the case, even though she knew they didn't have the evidence to back it up. Instead they recklessly placed their bet on emotions and sensationalism.

If Zimmerman had been charged with manslaughter instead of murder from the get go, the prosecution would have been able to design and present a stronger case for that crime from day one. Same with Casey Anthony. She'd be in prison now serving 10 years or more, but the arrogance of these State Attorneys to go for broke has once again blown up in their faces.

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Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:36 PM

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Innocent until proven guilty:



2 joos:



who commits millions of murders without arrest?



sodomites love sodomites:






In Firefly the Alliance merged the US flag with the flag of Communist China

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Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:43 PM

STORYMARK


No big surprise. And now we know, if you want to murder someone in Florida, just start a fight, and lose - then all's fair.

Meanwhile, the same state sends a black woman with no record to jail for 20 years for firing a warning shot. But those here worried about Zimmerman's right to self defense wont care about her.

I wonder why...?




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Storymark:
No big surprise. And now we know, if you want to murder someone in Florida, just start a fight, and lose - then all's fair.



Huh ? Martin started the fight w/ Zimmerman. Not sure what you're even talking bout.

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Meanwhile, the same state sends a black woman with no record to jail for 20 years for firing a warning shot. But those here worried about Zimmerman's right to self defense wont care about her.

I wonder why...?



I'm sure it was because of her race, and nothing else, though one would have to take your word on it. No idea what you're talking about , or what it has to do w/ the Zimmerman trial.

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Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:48 PM

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Obama orders his Commie Al Qaeda army to attack USA:



Obama Files Federal Charges Against George Zimmerman Following Acquittal in Shooting of Black Burgler (impossible since court house is closed)

http://nationalreport.net/obama-files-federal-charges-against-george-z
immerman-following-acquittal-in-shooting-murder-of-trayvon-martin
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Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:18 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!







Now that right there is funny. I don't care who ya are.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:48 AM

WHOZIT


Now Zimmeman can sue NBC.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Now Zimmeman can sue NBC.




Actually, he already has.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:37 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Now Zimmeman can sue NBC.




Actually, he already has.


I didn't know this, but maybe we should feel sorry for the douchebags at MSNBC, what will they bitch about now? This trial was pretty much all they were reporting. They'll likely still talk about this for the next few days, they'll have to ween themselves off this story.


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Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


If only they spent 1/100th the effort on all the other shootings across America, of blacks, by blacks.

Speaking of msnbc, they're acting as if GZ literally stalked Tryavon down, beat and kicked him, and shot him in the back as he tried to run away.

It's beyond bizarre, the pure delusion that's on display here.

* Oh, and just when I thought crazy couldn't get worse ? Melissa Harris-Perry ends her little show with some outlandish, disjointed monologue of black injustice in America, while holding ... wait for it , a bag of skittles !!!

OMG, such over the top drama and phony, contrived theatrics!

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:22 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
If only they spent 1/100th the effort on all the other shootings across America, of blacks, by blacks.

Speaking of msnbc, they're acting as if GZ literally stalked Tryavon down, beat and kicked him, and shot him in the back as he tried to run away.

It's beyond bizarre, the pure delusion that's on display here.

* Oh, and just when I thought crazy couldn't get worse ? Melissa Harris-Perry ends her little show with some outlandish, disjointed monologue of black injustice in America, while holding ... wait for it , a bag of skittles !!!

OMG, such over the top drama and phony, contrived theatrics!



Oh so true! I ONLY watched MSNBC cover the verdict last night because I wanted to see what they were saying and how they dealt with the verdict. Later a little on CNN too. It was even more absurd and pathetic than I could have even imagined. At the same time though, watching them bite their lips and hold back their tears was quite enjoyable....far more enjoyable than the verdict itself which was not really a cause for any good feelings. Both networks kept re-trying the case, over and over, with arguments not based on any evidence from the trial, only based on their own racial biases and hate-mongering. They also sounded and looked disappointed that there were no reports of rioting. The special prosecutor Angela Corey, who was brought in when the State Attorney refused to charge Zimmerman, was the most sickening and pathetic excuse of a delusional denier I've ever seen. She was standing there at the podium, proud as punch, saying how she was right all along, and that her prosecutors did a great job. What the fuck?? She was almost as proud as the losing prosecutors from the Casey Anthony trial, who said they did everything right also and deserved to win.

Don't these people realize that by making reckless statements to cover their sorry asses after they lose their case, all they are doing is casting doubt and undermining the integrity of the American jury / justice system. They ALL should lose their law licenses.

These racial witch hunts must stop. How many more Duke Lacrosse Team, Crown Heights, or Tawana Brawley fiascos are people expected to tolerate? Sharpton, Jackson, NAACP, Holder, Obama are all race-mongering political opportunist hypocrites.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:39 AM

NIKI2

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Only in America...........................

or should I say, Only in Florida................

Casey Anthony, add to George Zimmerman. You could kill someone, lie about it and get away with it.



Pretty much, Shiny. I'm afraid I had no expectation of "justice" either; I'm not sure people in this country even KNOW what that is anymore, much less have any expectation of it.

Actually, Story, you don't even have to start a fight. Just stalk someone, kill 'em, and say THEY started a fight and you feared for your life.

The only thing that ever attracted me to Florida was the Everglades, which is the only American ecosystem we don't have represented here in California. Now NOTHING would entice me there.


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Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:21 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Jongs, it's not so much they were disappointed that there were no riots, I believe many in the media were actually attempting to fan the flames of disontent, in hopes there WOULD be riots. I bet they think they can still gen up enough animus to get SOMETHING on the air !

And remember... with Leftists, it's not the results or the facts that matter so much, it's that they CARED enough to try to do the right thing. Even if what they did had no merit what so ever, it's the intention on their part which means the most.

And of course, that 6 women were the jury, there's no phony 'war on women ' meme going on, what so ever. Only conservatives could be upset at a verdict of an all women jury. Here, it's the SYSTEM that's broken.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:24 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Just stalk someone, kill 'em, and say THEY started a fight and you feared for your life.



What planet are you on where Zimmerman was the one who started the fight ? Seriously ? You could not be more wrong, even if you tried.

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The only thing that ever attracted me to Florida was the Everglades, which is the only American ecosystem we don't have represented here in California. Now NOTHING would entice me there.




I do hope that's a promise. One far more valid than your promises to stop reading my posts or to stop replying to my posts. History proves how little THOSE vows are worth !

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:36 AM

JONGSSTRAW


And what do our beloved celebrity geniuses think about the verdict?


Celebs React To George Zimmerman Verdict

USA TODAY
Andrea Mandell
12:47 a.m. EDT July 14, 2013

Here's a look at the stars who shared their thoughts on Twitter:

Ellen Page: "If u really believe racism isnt a massive problem, that the oppression of minorities is not a horrific and systemic issue. U R in denial."

Mia Farrow: "I don't understand this. At ALL"

Steve Harvey: "A Child is Dead & The Man that Killed Him is Free & Again The Child is Black...My Country Tis of Thee?"

Richard Dreyfuss: "It's 2013 and an American jury just acquitted a man who admitted to stalking and killing an unarmed child."

Judy Blume: "Not surprised. But distraught. Saw 'Fruitvale Station' tonight. How ironic to come home to this verdict."

Kate Walsh: "Zimmerman verdict sickens me."

Kat Dennings: "I can't handle this. All that really matters are Trayvon's parents, and making sure nothing like this ever happens again."

Questlove: "this might be in bad taste but in light of this verdict? i really INSIST you people see Fruitvale Station not now but RIGHT NOW"

Alec Baldwin: "Florida is a parallel universe. A (expletive) one."

Tom Arnold: "Dear Son, I love you and there is no shame in running away from creepy a-- crackers. #nojustice"

Rainn Wilson: "Hanging out in a gated community with a gun, looking for some suspicious characters today."

Ellie Goulding: "Going to bed with a sober head full of confusion"

Diddy: "#myTruth I am blessed to have 6 beautiful kids. I'm hurt and I'm mad as hell! My heart goes out to the family. He followed him! (Expletive) That!"

Jordin Sparks: "What is happening?!"

Solange Knowles: "Is this not what our ancestors, grandfathers and fathers fought for...? Now I will be fighting for my son..."

Natalie Maines: "Stand Your Ground Law aka, Entrapment."

John Cusack: "the need for justice & civil liberties /rights for all Americans inspires US to reclaim rights so this tragedy cld have positive meaning"

James Van Der Beek: "Wow. So Florida... just to be clear, when is it NOT okay to track down and shoot an unarmed teenager?#RipTrayvonMartin"

Nia Vardalos: "Disgusting. This is the second tragic night in the Martin household."

Lupe Fiasco: "The case should have never been televised as the potential to antagonize US race relations was, in my dumb, opinion too risky & unnecessary"

Jennifer Hudson: "I can't help but think of what my mama use to say " If u think u seen it all just keep on living"

Michael Ian Black: "The only thing that surprised me about the verdict is that juries work on Saturdays."

Donald Trump: "Zimmerman is no angel but the lack of evidence and the concept of self-defense, especially in Florida law, gave the jury little other choice"

Chris Brown: "Bull----!"

Gabrielle Union: "Help! What's the proper procedure when you're followed by a random armed nutbag returning home from getting candy & iced tea?"

Whoopi Goldberg: "My heart is with trayvon martins family tonight, so my focus on them. No one else really matters"

Jaleel White: "I can't ..." wrote the star, adding a sad emoticon.

Olivia Wilde: "I feel sick." She then directed a tweet at Ann Coulter, who tweeted "Hallelujah!" at the verdict. ".@AnnCoulter You are a hateful wench," wrote Wilde.

Mandy Moore: "My heart is heavy...for all who knew and loved #TrayvonMartin. His life mattered. This is shameful."

Russell Simmons: "I know many people are very upset about the verdict, but we must remain peaceful. No matter what, remain peaceful."

Nicki Minaj: "And our taxes paid for that trial. We just paid to see a murderer walk free after killing an innocent unarmed little boy. #GodBlessAmerica"

Sophia Bush: "The wind is more than knocked out of me... My heart aches for this boy's family. Justice System? I don't think so. #justicefortrayvon"

Rihanna: "This is the saddest news ever!!! #whatsjustice #pray4theMartinFamily"

John Legend: "My heart hurts"

Lena Dunham: "No. My heart is with Sybrina Fulton, Rachel Jeantel, everyone who loved Trayvon and has been sent the message that his life didn't matter."

Mario Lopez: "Hope people don't misbehave after hearing this verdict... Pray for the Martin family."

Josh Groban: "Oh no. Seriously? Crap."

Shaquille O'Neil: "George Zimmerman not guilty can u believe that. Wow"

Miley Cyrus tweeted twice. "No justice. No peace," she wrote, followed by: "The world is a scary place."

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:53 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Quote:

Steve Harvey: "A Child is Dead & The Man that Killed Him is Free & Again The Child is Black...My Country Tis of Thee?"


I guess the luster of 2 Obama inaugurations in this 'racist' country has worn off then?

Huh.

Just keep ignoring Chicago, and the REST of the country. You'll be fine.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:55 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Jongs, it's not so much they were disappointed that there were no riots, I believe many in the media were actually attempting to fan the flames of disontent, in hopes there WOULD be riots. I bet they think they can still gen up enough animus to get SOMETHING on the air !


It sounded like that to me.

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And remember... with Leftists, it's not the results or the facts that matter so much, it's that they CARED enough to try to do the right thing. Even if what they did had no merit what so ever, it's the intention on their part which means the most.

Like with the Duke Lacrosse rape case, facts and evidence don't matter to them. And as ususal, no regrets for their willful recklessness.

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And of course, that 6 women were the jury, there's no phony 'war on women ' meme going on, what so ever. Only conservatives could be upset at a verdict of an all women jury. Here, it's the SYSTEM that's broken.

5 of the 6 women jurors were mothers. The prosecutors selected them after a lengthy screening process. The judge gave every assistance to the State. It was as fair a trial as possible.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:02 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Duke Lacrosse team is a prime example. Poor black woman, subjected to perform the most demeaning task, to a bunch of over privileged rich WHITE boys, and then gets treated like an object, to be discarded after they were done having their way with her...

That it didn't happen, doesn't matter. That she LIED, isn't the issue. Duke is a exclusive school, IN THE SOUTH, and we alllll know how them white Southerns really feel about them black folk.

Found another tweet -

“All them jurors should go home tonight and kill themselves for letting a grown man get away with killing a kid." - roddy white , ATL Falcons receiver.

ALL the women of the jury, 5 of which who are mothers themselves, should just go home and commit suicide. THAT'S the brilliant solution this idiot has for not getting the verdict he wanted, which would have turned the law upside down.

Where's the protest form the N.O.W. gang against this comment ? Even Rush Limbaugh never told Ms Fluke to go kill herself.



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Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:22 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
What planet are you on where Zimmerman was the one who started the fight ? Seriously ? You could not be more wrong, even if you tried.



...and how do you know he didn't?

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:36 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
What planet are you on where Zimmerman was the one who started the fight ? Seriously ? You could not be more wrong, even if you tried.



...and how do you know he didn't?

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



Really? You want to go with this nonsense, all over again?

OK, I'll play - the EVIDENCE shows it was Trayvon, who started the fight. His sole injuries were on his knuckles ( from throwing punches ) and the gunshot wound.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:54 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Really? You want to go with this nonsense, all over again?

OK, I'll play - the EVIDENCE shows it was Trayvon, who started the fight. His sole injuries were on his knuckles ( from throwing punches ) and the gunshot wound.



That does not prove Trayvon started the fight. Zimmerman could have grab Martin first. Which would not have caused any injuries, but under Florida law would have been battery. So you, nor anyone else can prove who started the fight.

Zimmerman was acquitted because a lack of evidence, not because he was proven not guilty. In fact in just about any other state he would be behind bars because he would not have had enough evidence to prove self defence.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:16 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"And now we know, if you want to murder someone in Florida, just start a fight, and lose - then all's fair."

Naw ... all you need to do is shoot someone and claim you were in fear for your life. Just remember - don't shoot them in the back, don't be black, and make sure they are black. Oh, and do it at night where there's no on else about. 'Cause, you know, they were acting in a threatening manner. And who's going to say any different?

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:'Cause, you know, they were acting in a threatening manner. And who's going to say any different?


Sucks when the eye witness's account squares up exactly with your story, and then the injuries to both parties some how tell the exact same scenario.

But what the hell, right ?

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There was no witness as to who started the fight. Sucks that you're brain dead, doesn't it?



ENJOY YOUR NEXT FOUR YEARS!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - HERE'S LAUGHING AT YOU KID!

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
There was no witness as to who started the fight. Sucks that you're brain dead, doesn't it?



Read my post again. Seems you missed the point.

I never SAID there was any witness, I said the EVIDENCE points to TM being the one who started the physical altercation.

Zimmerman found not guilty.



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Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:47 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


A wulfs view of the case: A decent guy (no saint) was trying to make amends, make a positive difference in his community, help his neighbors, protect his family from evil... came across a "person" who made his hackles stand up. Following procedure, he reported said "persons" whereabouts.

Thug didnt like it. Attacked. Thug got dealt with.

The end. Except... well the evil in the country didnt like their PRECIOUS thug being put down. I mean, after all, if this happened... they could ALL be at risk. How could they ever continue their ways if people could and would stand up to them?

So....TRIAL! Yeah thatll fix em! Except, even after trying to fix the outcome... they failed.

GZ, I dont know him. But this has given everyone who stands for what is right and good something the evil never could.

HOPE.


"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... YOU are locked in here with ME."

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:50 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
There was no witness as to who started the fight. Sucks that you're brain dead, doesn't it?



Read my post again. Seems you missed the point.

I never SAID there was any witness, I said the EVIDENCE points to TM being the one who started the physical altercation.

Zimmerman found not guilty.



Poor little psycho Kuku is more confused than Rosie O'Donnell's kids on Father's Day.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:51 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


A wulfs view of the case: A decent guy (no saint) was trying to make amends, make a positive difference in his community, help his neighbors, protect his family from evil... came across a "person" who made his hackles stand up. Following procedure, he reported said "persons" whereabouts.

Thug didnt like it. Attacked. Thug got dealt with.

The end. Except... well the evil in the country didnt like their PRECIOUS thug being put down. I mean, after all, if this happened... they could ALL be at risk. How could they ever continue their ways if people could and would stand up to them?

So....TRIAL! Yeah thatll fix em! Except, even after trying to fix the outcome... they failed.

GZ, I dont know him. But this has given everyone who stands for what is right and good something the evil never could.

HOPE.


"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... YOU are locked in here with ME."

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:02 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Wulf as always brings his ISSUES to the table.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:04 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:58 AM

Sucks when the EYE WITNESS'S account squares up exactly with your story ...



Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:35 PM

I never SAID there was ANY WITNESS ...



Really? Never? Not even Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:58 AM ?


ENJOY YOUR NEXT FOUR YEARS!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - HERE'S LAUGHING AT YOU KID!

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:16 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


This case highlights my "issues". Ive been screaming for years... now you are forced to listen.

I feel for my bloodkin stuck in ghettos right now. Same as being there during Rodney King.

But if you survive, you can always get out of there.

"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... YOU are locked in here with ME."

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 2:42 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Sucks when the EYE WITNESS'S account squares up exactly with your story ...



I never SAID there was ANY WITNESS ...



Really? Never?

ENJOY YOUR NEXT FOUR YEARS!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - HERE'S LAUGHING AT YOU KID!



Rappy catches himselff lying regularly now, won't ever stop him from doing it.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 2:43 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Wulf as always brings his ISSUES to the table.

It's not personal. It's just war.



That boy is nothing but issues.

Hell, he has full subscriptions.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:16 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Hell, he has full subscriptions.


More like special editions... very.... special.

Factually, the State compromised the right to a fair trial, which is IMHO a walkaway - problem is, the State tried to compromise it in his favor, blatantly cherry picked jury, prosecutor takin a dive, DOJ leaning on the judge, selective leaks, and so forth - but it still compromises it.

Of course, that's win-win for them as should there have been a revolt and conviction, they could then throw it out for the very errors they introduced.
What this does, in the end beg the question of whether our justice system is any better than an arbitrary lynch mob, especially given the other case mentioned in contrast to this one, and the answer comes back as "nope", which quite properly erodes trust in a system that deserves none.
Bitter pill that it is, facing acknowledgement of that reality is the first step towards changing that reality - especially in light of the fact that despite every attempt official and otherwise, to provoke (IMHO justified) riots out of this, so fail that has failed... although I worry for what'll happen when the next incident occurs as the powers that be have proven untrustworthy and so forth and so on.

There's no good to be had here, but showing how broken and rigged our so-called justice system is as much as can be taken from it, in hopes of bringing reform if at all possible.

Side Note: additional reason for the State to rig things this way, is that were Zimm to catch the deserved conviction, it then opens THEIR agents, and the attempted cover up, to that anathema to all State activity... accountability.

-Frem

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 8:00 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


23 Black Twitter Users Who Say They Will Shoot Mexicans Because of Zimmerman Verdict www.soopermexican.com/2013/07/14/20-twitter-users-who-say-they-will-sh
oot-mexicans-because-of-zimmerman-verdict
/





Quote:

The Picture Of Trayvon On Night He Was Shot That The Joomedia Didn’t Show

The picture the MSM showed was of course when Martin was much younger.

This picture, of him buying the Skittles and ice tea, shows a young man towering over the store clerk. Of course, height doesn’t make the aggressor, but it shows that he was not the “young child” portrayed by media. This picture didn’t fit the narrative.

In 513 Days Between Trayvon Dying and the Zimmerman Trial Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Have Been Murdered by OTHER BLACKS

To be exact, the shameful truth is that 93% of African-American murders are committed by other African-Americans. That is breathtakingly awful when you consider how incensed the African-American community is about the Trayvon tragedy, no matter what you believe about Zimmerman’s guilt.

Let’s do the gruesome math, not out of morbidity, but because it manifests the incredible self-centered insanity of people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

8,000-9,000 African-Americans are murdered each year.

93% of them by other African-Americans.

That’s 7,905 (from average)

That’s 21.65 murdered each day by other African-Americans.

And these racebaiting culture-hustling microphone-pimps only get riled up when a “White Hispanic” kills an African-American? It’s absolutely shameful.

http://www.soopermexican.com/2013/07/14/in-513-days-between-trayvon-dy
ing-and-the-zimmerman-trial-verdict-11106-blacks-have-been-murdered-by-other-blacks
/





Of course obama murders over 50% of all black babies, millions dead so far, 1,000 every day...


In Firefly the Alliance merged the US flag with the flag of Communist China

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:07 PM

FREMDFIRMA




Leaving aside PNs rather obvious baiting here, I did spot one photo of a so-called "rioter" which made me laugh...

This was the best I could do to scale up the originally smaller image.



Again, the shoes, always the shoes - mind you, as SOON as people noticed that AP went and cropped the bottom of the photo, not like those pants ain't a dead giveaway too.

And this slightly larger/clearer one after they did, with a little wider angle.



Okay, this is OBVIOUSLY staged, I don't see much of a crowd, or crowd reaction, and this beefy white guy is supposed to be a "rioter", yeah, riiiiight, even his fucking posture screams cop, not to mention that garbage can looks awful new, and the window he's chucking it at appears to be of a conveniently empty storefront.

Ah, and while posting someone found me a copy of the original AP photo for best quality.



Go on, tell me that ain't a cop, tell me this isn't a staged bullshit photo.

-F

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Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:56 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:58 AM

Sucks when the EYE WITNESS'S account squares up exactly with your story ...



Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:35 PM

I never SAID there was ANY WITNESS ...



Really? Never? Not even Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:58 AM ?




Yes. Never. I said EYE WITNESS ACCOUNT, but not specific as to who STARTED the fight. But the witness's version DOES back up what Zimmerman said, with TM being on top, throwing punches.

Bright ain't what you are, is it ?

Yes, there was a witness, to them fighting. That witnesses account, along w/ all the other physical evidence, lines up fairly accurate to how Zimmerman related the story.

And some here are so petty, they confuse me being correct with 'lying', so obsessed with trying to get ANY sort of a 'win' on these boards, it's utterly warped what small minds they may have once had.


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Monday, July 15, 2013 3:28 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Factually, the State compromised the right to a fair trial, which is IMHO a walkaway - problem is, the State tried to compromise it in his favor, blatantly cherry picked jury, prosecutor takin a dive, DOJ leaning on the judge, selective leaks, and so forth - but it still compromises it.


I have not had much to say lately cause its been pretty busy round here lately.

This case didn't go wrong in trial, there should never have been a trial. If one thing was clear from the start of the State's case its that there was no evidence to support a conviction. Witness after witness lined up to support Zimmerman's version of events. The scientific evidence, eyewitnesses, the injuries, his statements were all consistant with each other and with the narrative that Zimmerman was getting pummeled from Martin who was on top and fired his weapon during that assault.

The injuries to Zimmerman are compelling, but more compelling was the lack of inury to Martin. If Zimmerman started the fight, which is the ONLY way he could be guilty, then there would have been some injury to Martin, however slight. The only injury was to Martin's hands and they were consistant with the beating he was giving Zimmerman.

Assuming the State's version was true, Zimmerman's crime was not singling Martin out for being black, following him, or confronting him...none of that is illegal. The crime begins only if Zimmerman initiated the fight. They could not prove he started it because there was not one shred of evidence he did. More to that there was not one shred of evidence he racially profiled him or confronted him. In fact, the only one evidencing any racial thought was Martin. From his friend's testimony its clear that he identified Zimmerman as a 'cracker' and then confronted Zimmerman about following him.

Prosecutor's have discretion. I have had to say no to police, the Mayor, and victims. Its hard, especially when there is a sympathetic victim or political pressure. But its the Prosecutor's job to say no if a case fails to meet a probable cause standard. I'll prosecute a weak case, but I wont prosecute a case that does not meet that minimum standard. The State should never have charged this case. Further, the Judge is at fault here. A Judge should have stepped in and prevented this from ever going to a jury. The State failed to meet its minimum burden, this Judge should have ended this during the motion for aquital at the end of the State's case or the second motion at the end of the Defense case (in Ohio that's a Rule 29 motion).

H

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Monday, July 15, 2013 4:39 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Frem analyzed that well; and it provided me an excellent education on what a set-up looks like. I see what he means about the shoes, and it's sad they think we're really all that stupid. Looks like a perfectly normal scene, and there was supposedly a photog who just happened to be passing by and raised his camera at just the right instance to catch the one guy doing something. Even without the analysis and naïve as I am, I'd have questioned that one, but the shoes and empty store front were a good catch.

All in all just another sad day in America, and the conversation here shows just how far we still have to go , sadly.


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Monday, July 15, 2013 6:24 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by HERO:

This case didn't go wrong in trial, there should never have been a trial. If one thing was clear from the start of the State's case its that there was no evidence to support a conviction. Witness after witness lined up to support Zimmerman's version of events. The scientific evidence, eyewitnesses, the injuries, his statements were all consistant with each other and with the narrative that Zimmerman was getting pummeled from Martin who was on top and fired his weapon during that assault.

The injuries to Zimmerman are compelling, but more compelling was the lack of inury to Martin. If Zimmerman started the fight, which is the ONLY way he could be guilty, then there would have been some injury to Martin, however slight. The only injury was to Martin's hands and they were consistant with the beating he was giving Zimmerman.

Assuming the State's version was true, Zimmerman's crime was not singling Martin out for being black, following him, or confronting him...none of that is illegal. The crime begins only if Zimmerman initiated the fight. They could not prove he started it because there was not one shred of evidence he did. More to that there was not one shred of evidence he racially profiled him or confronted him. In fact, the only one evidencing any racial thought was Martin. From his friend's testimony its clear that he identified Zimmerman as a 'cracker' and then confronted Zimmerman about following him.

Prosecutor's have discretion. I have had to say no to police, the Mayor, and victims. Its hard, especially when there is a sympathetic victim or political pressure. But its the Prosecutor's job to say no if a case fails to meet a probable cause standard. I'll prosecute a weak case, but I wont prosecute a case that does not meet that minimum standard. The State should never have charged this case. Further, the Judge is at fault here. A Judge should have stepped in and prevented this from ever going to a jury. The State failed to meet its minimum burden, this Judge should have ended this during the motion for aquital at the end of the State's case or the second motion at the end of the Defense case (in Ohio that's a Rule 29 motion).


You're 100% right, but race mongers and ambitious politicians don't care about facts or the law. The original State Attorney refused to act on this case because she knew there was no case. Under pressure from outside "civil rights" forces, another State Attorney was named as Special Prosecutor (Angela Corey), and she decided, for political reasons only, to forge ahead with a ridiculous murder charge. As Alan Dershowitz said after the verdict, the prosecution of this case was reprehensible, and they should all be disbarred.

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Monday, July 15, 2013 6:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Only sad as a 17 yr old died, but the system worked . 6 women , knowing the facts, got it right.


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Monday, July 15, 2013 7:03 AM

FREMDFIRMA



And along comes Zero to show up yet another major flaw in the system, prosecutors grown lazy and stupid from the convenience of being handed a stacked deck with a cherry picked jury spoonfed a carefully edited narrative and fed bogus instructions in order to reach a predetermined result, along with public defenders taking that helpful dive....
Unless of course the State's requirement goes the other way.

Seriously, Zero, shoulda remained silent and been thought a fool instead of proving it, dumbass.

Quote:

This case didn't go wrong in trial, there should never have been a trial. If one thing was clear from the start of the State's case its that there was no evidence to support a conviction.

Motive-Means-Opportunity, all three present, and Zimm spouting a racial slur, then initiating a confrontation in defiance of both procedure and police instruction, and failing to identify himself, these are not in doubt - just cause one of your buddies took a dive for the DOJ and you feel the need to circle the wagons doesn't somehow magically enable you to convince us of your bullshit.

Quote:

Witness after witness lined up to support Zimmerman's version of events.

"Witnesses" who weren't even THERE, and testifying not only in complete opposition to known physical evidence, but "Witnesses" who repeatedly changed their statements when confronted with contrary evidence, yeah, real credible, that - and a suspect who blatantly lied in an official report, and repeatedly changed his story as well, unless you are proposing Martin had some sort of teleportation ability and could have jumped him from behind while in front of him and in sight, and suggesting that the 911 call log is a fake.

Quote:

The scientific evidence, eyewitnesses, the injuries, his statements were all consistant with each other and with the narrative that Zimmerman was getting pummeled from Martin who was on top and fired his weapon during that assault.

Is that so - then where's the powder burns on Martins hoodie ?
And again you use the term "eyewitnesses" in the same breath as telling us there's no evidence cause no one saw what happened, which are mutually contradictory statements, and telling us Zimmermans ever-varying accounts are consistant is downright laughable.

Quote:

The injuries to Zimmerman are compelling, but more compelling was the lack of inury to Martin. If Zimmerman started the fight, which is the ONLY way he could be guilty, then there would have been some injury to Martin, however slight. The only injury was to Martin's hands and they were consistant with the beating he was giving Zimmerman.

Horse Shit, as a lawyer, you should at LEAST comprehend the law - I've seen one resident hauled off for assault for no more than shoving his girlfriend in front of a cop, once intentional, unwanted physical contact occurs (such as Zimmerman grabbing Martin or in any way laying hands on him) that's assault, you KNOW this, or you ought to.
What REQUIRES injury in order to be prosecuted is battery, in some states specifically Felony battery, but mere assault doesn't require injury... especially prevalent in how cops arrest folk for accidental or incidental contact, or even something so minor as a mere finger poke.

Quote:

Assuming the State's version was true, Zimmerman's crime was not singling Martin out for being black, following him, or confronting him...none of that is illegal. The crime begins only if Zimmerman initiated the fight. They could not prove he started it because there was not one shred of evidence he did.

Nice slither, but we both know the legal definition of direct evidence versus indirect evidence, so that there's a lie of omission, buddy - plenty of indirect evidence, along with non-credible testimony bordering on downright perjury.

Quote:

More to that there was not one shred of evidence he racially profiled him or confronted him.

Outside of using a racial slur during a recorded 911 call, and the beginning of that confrontation being recorded by Martins cellphone, you mean ?
You really shoulda stopped digging - we're not a closeted bunch of cherry picked nimrods you can insulate from facts inconvenient to your bullshit story, remember ?

Quote:

In fact, the only one evidencing any racial thought was Martin. From his friend's testimony its clear that he identified Zimmerman as a 'cracker' and then confronted Zimmerman about following him.

You mean the friend who admitted being threatened in order to provide it, and then recanted it when that threat was removed, yes ?

Quote:

Prosecutor's have discretion. I have had to say no to police, the Mayor, and victims. Its hard, especially when there is a sympathetic victim or political pressure. But its the Prosecutor's job to say no if a case fails to meet a probable cause standard.

I find that even less credible than your other statements, given the preponderance of evidence directly opposed to it, while it might be "their job" technically to say no to a case that fails probable cause, for damn sure that isn't the common result.

You ain't helping your cause here, believe it - of course we both know you're really pandering to gullible and easily manipulated morons like Jongsie who will lap it right up without question regardless of how obviously preposterous it is cause it's what they WANT to believe, and damn the facts.... right Jongsie ?
Just keep on chugging the koolaid like a good little sycophant, sure - till you outlive your usefulness and become a liability, like the rest of the brownshirts.

-Frem

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Monday, July 15, 2013 7:48 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Yeah, that's right wulfster, that THUG really knew his shit. He was so thuggish that he carried with him his weapon of choice - ICE TEA, oh yeah and skittles.

Zimmerman would have peed his pants if he came upon a Real Thug. Someone with a gun who would have shot his ass. And you guys would scream Bloody Murder. I hope he goes on the prowl again, I really do, and I hope he comes across a real criminal. And I hope that guy comes with guns a-blazing.......

Then let's see how "brave" he is.

An unarmed kid scared the shit out of him, BULLSHIT!!!

He stalked him, said "Now I can be a cop, and capture me a real thug"
One small problem with that. He was a 17 year old kid going home to watch a basketball game. This stupid fucker wanted to shoot somebody, but he didn't have the balls to go after a real criminal, so he picks on this kid. He'll get his, mark my words - he'll come up on the wrong MAN and have his balls handed to him.

Have a nice day!


SGG

Quote:

Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
A wulfs view of the case: A decent guy (no saint) was trying to make amends, make a positive difference in his community, help his neighbors, protect his family from evil... came across a "person" who made his hackles stand up. Following procedure, he reported said "persons" whereabouts.

Thug didnt like it. Attacked. Thug got dealt with.

The end. Except... well the evil in the country didnt like their PRECIOUS thug being put down. I mean, after all, if this happened... they could ALL be at risk. How could they ever continue their ways if people could and would stand up to them?

So....TRIAL! Yeah thatll fix em! Except, even after trying to fix the outcome... they failed.

GZ, I dont know him. But this has given everyone who stands for what is right and good something the evil never could.

HOPE.


"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... YOU are locked in here with ME."


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Monday, July 15, 2013 7:50 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Are you fucking kidding me!

SGG

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Only sad as a 17 yr old died, but the system worked . 6 women , knowing the facts, got it right.


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