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NOT GUILTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:52 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:08 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:37 PM
SHINYGOODGUY
Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Not guilty, and .... Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz says the prosecutors in the George Zimmerman murder trial should be charged with "prosecutorial misconduct" for suggesting the defendant planned the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin. "These prosecutors should be disbarred. They have acted absolutely irresponsibly in an utterly un-American fashion."
Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by PIRATENEWS: https://www.google.com/search?q=zimmerman+not+guilty They hate US for our juries.
Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:50 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Only in America........................... or should I say, Only in Florida................ Casey Anthony, add to George Zimmerman. You could kill someone, lie about it and get away with it. SGG
Quote: Whenever I'm in Florida, I'm going to assume that every white man is carrying a concealed gun and defend myself. Hell, if George could do it, so could I.
Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:02 PM
Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:36 PM
Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:43 PM
STORYMARK
Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: No big surprise. And now we know, if you want to murder someone in Florida, just start a fight, and lose - then all's fair.
Quote: Meanwhile, the same state sends a black woman with no record to jail for 20 years for firing a warning shot. But those here worried about Zimmerman's right to self defense wont care about her. I wonder why...?
Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:48 PM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:18 AM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:48 AM
WHOZIT
Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Now Zimmeman can sue NBC.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: Now Zimmeman can sue NBC. Actually, he already has. I didn't know this, but maybe we should feel sorry for the douchebags at MSNBC, what will they bitch about now? This trial was pretty much all they were reporting. They'll likely still talk about this for the next few days, they'll have to ween themselves off this story. Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen Resident USA Freedom Fundie " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:58 AM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: If only they spent 1/100th the effort on all the other shootings across America, of blacks, by blacks. Speaking of msnbc, they're acting as if GZ literally stalked Tryavon down, beat and kicked him, and shot him in the back as he tried to run away. It's beyond bizarre, the pure delusion that's on display here. * Oh, and just when I thought crazy couldn't get worse ? Melissa Harris-Perry ends her little show with some outlandish, disjointed monologue of black injustice in America, while holding ... wait for it , a bag of skittles !!! OMG, such over the top drama and phony, contrived theatrics!
Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:39 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Only in America........................... or should I say, Only in Florida................ Casey Anthony, add to George Zimmerman. You could kill someone, lie about it and get away with it.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:21 AM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Just stalk someone, kill 'em, and say THEY started a fight and you feared for your life.
Quote: The only thing that ever attracted me to Florida was the Everglades, which is the only American ecosystem we don't have represented here in California. Now NOTHING would entice me there.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:36 AM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:53 AM
Quote: Steve Harvey: "A Child is Dead & The Man that Killed Him is Free & Again The Child is Black...My Country Tis of Thee?"
Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Jongs, it's not so much they were disappointed that there were no riots, I believe many in the media were actually attempting to fan the flames of disontent, in hopes there WOULD be riots. I bet they think they can still gen up enough animus to get SOMETHING on the air !
Quote:And remember... with Leftists, it's not the results or the facts that matter so much, it's that they CARED enough to try to do the right thing. Even if what they did had no merit what so ever, it's the intention on their part which means the most.
Quote:And of course, that 6 women were the jury, there's no phony 'war on women ' meme going on, what so ever. Only conservatives could be upset at a verdict of an all women jury. Here, it's the SYSTEM that's broken.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:02 AM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:22 AM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: What planet are you on where Zimmerman was the one who started the fight ? Seriously ? You could not be more wrong, even if you tried.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: What planet are you on where Zimmerman was the one who started the fight ? Seriously ? You could not be more wrong, even if you tried. ...and how do you know he didn't? I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Really? You want to go with this nonsense, all over again? OK, I'll play - the EVIDENCE shows it was Trayvon, who started the fight. His sole injuries were on his knuckles ( from throwing punches ) and the gunshot wound.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:16 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki:'Cause, you know, they were acting in a threatening manner. And who's going to say any different?
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:28 PM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: There was no witness as to who started the fight. Sucks that you're brain dead, doesn't it?
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:47 PM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: There was no witness as to who started the fight. Sucks that you're brain dead, doesn't it? Read my post again. Seems you missed the point. I never SAID there was any witness, I said the EVIDENCE points to TM being the one who started the physical altercation. Zimmerman found not guilty.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:51 PM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:02 PM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:04 PM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:16 PM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 2:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki:
Sunday, July 14, 2013 2:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Wulf as always brings his ISSUES to the table. It's not personal. It's just war.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:16 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Hell, he has full subscriptions.
Sunday, July 14, 2013 8:00 PM
Quote:The Picture Of Trayvon On Night He Was Shot That The Joomedia Didn’t Show The picture the MSM showed was of course when Martin was much younger. This picture, of him buying the Skittles and ice tea, shows a young man towering over the store clerk. Of course, height doesn’t make the aggressor, but it shows that he was not the “young child” portrayed by media. This picture didn’t fit the narrative. In 513 Days Between Trayvon Dying and the Zimmerman Trial Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Have Been Murdered by OTHER BLACKS To be exact, the shameful truth is that 93% of African-American murders are committed by other African-Americans. That is breathtakingly awful when you consider how incensed the African-American community is about the Trayvon tragedy, no matter what you believe about Zimmerman’s guilt. Let’s do the gruesome math, not out of morbidity, but because it manifests the incredible self-centered insanity of people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. 8,000-9,000 African-Americans are murdered each year. 93% of them by other African-Americans. That’s 7,905 (from average) That’s 21.65 murdered each day by other African-Americans. And these racebaiting culture-hustling microphone-pimps only get riled up when a “White Hispanic” kills an African-American? It’s absolutely shameful. http://www.soopermexican.com/2013/07/14/in-513-days-between-trayvon-dying-and-the-zimmerman-trial-verdict-11106-blacks-have-been-murdered-by-other-blacks/
Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:07 PM
Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:56 PM
Monday, July 15, 2013 3:28 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Factually, the State compromised the right to a fair trial, which is IMHO a walkaway - problem is, the State tried to compromise it in his favor, blatantly cherry picked jury, prosecutor takin a dive, DOJ leaning on the judge, selective leaks, and so forth - but it still compromises it.
Monday, July 15, 2013 4:39 AM
Monday, July 15, 2013 6:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by HERO: This case didn't go wrong in trial, there should never have been a trial. If one thing was clear from the start of the State's case its that there was no evidence to support a conviction. Witness after witness lined up to support Zimmerman's version of events. The scientific evidence, eyewitnesses, the injuries, his statements were all consistant with each other and with the narrative that Zimmerman was getting pummeled from Martin who was on top and fired his weapon during that assault. The injuries to Zimmerman are compelling, but more compelling was the lack of inury to Martin. If Zimmerman started the fight, which is the ONLY way he could be guilty, then there would have been some injury to Martin, however slight. The only injury was to Martin's hands and they were consistant with the beating he was giving Zimmerman. Assuming the State's version was true, Zimmerman's crime was not singling Martin out for being black, following him, or confronting him...none of that is illegal. The crime begins only if Zimmerman initiated the fight. They could not prove he started it because there was not one shred of evidence he did. More to that there was not one shred of evidence he racially profiled him or confronted him. In fact, the only one evidencing any racial thought was Martin. From his friend's testimony its clear that he identified Zimmerman as a 'cracker' and then confronted Zimmerman about following him. Prosecutor's have discretion. I have had to say no to police, the Mayor, and victims. Its hard, especially when there is a sympathetic victim or political pressure. But its the Prosecutor's job to say no if a case fails to meet a probable cause standard. I'll prosecute a weak case, but I wont prosecute a case that does not meet that minimum standard. The State should never have charged this case. Further, the Judge is at fault here. A Judge should have stepped in and prevented this from ever going to a jury. The State failed to meet its minimum burden, this Judge should have ended this during the motion for aquital at the end of the State's case or the second motion at the end of the Defense case (in Ohio that's a Rule 29 motion).
Monday, July 15, 2013 6:33 AM
Monday, July 15, 2013 7:03 AM
Quote:This case didn't go wrong in trial, there should never have been a trial. If one thing was clear from the start of the State's case its that there was no evidence to support a conviction.
Quote:Witness after witness lined up to support Zimmerman's version of events.
Quote: The scientific evidence, eyewitnesses, the injuries, his statements were all consistant with each other and with the narrative that Zimmerman was getting pummeled from Martin who was on top and fired his weapon during that assault.
Quote:The injuries to Zimmerman are compelling, but more compelling was the lack of inury to Martin. If Zimmerman started the fight, which is the ONLY way he could be guilty, then there would have been some injury to Martin, however slight. The only injury was to Martin's hands and they were consistant with the beating he was giving Zimmerman.
Quote:Assuming the State's version was true, Zimmerman's crime was not singling Martin out for being black, following him, or confronting him...none of that is illegal. The crime begins only if Zimmerman initiated the fight. They could not prove he started it because there was not one shred of evidence he did.
Quote:More to that there was not one shred of evidence he racially profiled him or confronted him.
Quote:In fact, the only one evidencing any racial thought was Martin. From his friend's testimony its clear that he identified Zimmerman as a 'cracker' and then confronted Zimmerman about following him.
Quote:Prosecutor's have discretion. I have had to say no to police, the Mayor, and victims. Its hard, especially when there is a sympathetic victim or political pressure. But its the Prosecutor's job to say no if a case fails to meet a probable cause standard.
Monday, July 15, 2013 7:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by WULFENSTAR: A wulfs view of the case: A decent guy (no saint) was trying to make amends, make a positive difference in his community, help his neighbors, protect his family from evil... came across a "person" who made his hackles stand up. Following procedure, he reported said "persons" whereabouts. Thug didnt like it. Attacked. Thug got dealt with. The end. Except... well the evil in the country didnt like their PRECIOUS thug being put down. I mean, after all, if this happened... they could ALL be at risk. How could they ever continue their ways if people could and would stand up to them? So....TRIAL! Yeah thatll fix em! Except, even after trying to fix the outcome... they failed. GZ, I dont know him. But this has given everyone who stands for what is right and good something the evil never could. HOPE. "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... YOU are locked in here with ME."
Monday, July 15, 2013 7:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Only sad as a 17 yr old died, but the system worked . 6 women , knowing the facts, got it right. Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen Resident USA Freedom Fundie " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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