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Dinosaurs Agree: The Earth Loves CO2!

The dinosaur skeletons and fleshed-out reconstructions we see in museums tower over their viewers. How and why did these massive creatures grow so monstrous?

The answer is probably a lot of hot air. At least, that’s what the research of Sara Decherd, a doctoral student in marine, earth and atmospheric sciences at North Carolina State University, suggests.

Decherd studies the ecology of the Cretaceous period, some 160 million years ago, when Earth’s atmosphere contained more oxygen and more carbon dioxide and was, in her words, “a hothouse.” She believes, and is working to demonstrate, that this richer atmosphere helped plants grow bigger and faster. With lots of food, herbivorous dinosaurs thrived -- and became lumbering prey for their carnivorous cousins.

Both plant-eaters and meat-eaters grew fearsome, in effect, because food was plentiful.

Decherd’s research doesn’t focus on the dinosaurs, though, but on the role of Earth’s atmosphere on plant life. She’s using one of the most ancient plants, the Ginko biloba tree, to test her hypothesis.

“Research has shown that elevated carbon dioxide levels result in higher productivity, faster photosynthetic and growth rates, and greater rates of carbohydrate synthesis,” she says. “My work involves measuring how modern ginko trees react to Cretaceous-like atmospheres, and how the higher levels of oxygen and carbon dioxide affect the leaves’ nutritive value and digestibility. We’re also comparing these experimental ginko leaves with fossilized ginko leaves from the Cretaceous period to help verify our work.”

http://www.clearlynewmexico.com/?p=2844
http://www.ncsu.edu/news/press_releases/04_01/026.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur

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You'll be laughing all the way to the food shortages, AU.

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Low CO2 is what killed the dinosaurs. As in EXTINCT.

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Everybody knows the reason CO2 was so high during the dinosaurs was because the civilized reptilians poisoned the atmosphere with their industrial waste. We have the same problem today.

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7 years since Katrina, Rita et al. AlGore told us this was just the start, to get use to lots of storms, and bigger.

*crickets*

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7 years since Katrina, Rita et al. AlGore told us this was just the start, to get use to lots of storms, and bigger.

*crickets*

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Last year was the worst and most costly/damaging tornado outbreak season on record in the US.

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Last year was the worst and most costly/damaging tornado outbreak season on record in the US.

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KPO... planet life was doing just fine 100 million years ago too. Your point ?

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Plants need C02, Chris. It'll help them thrive.

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Seriously, if you want to reduce CO2 and Methane emissions, make good beef and steak affordable again so my weekly dinner diet doesn't consist 90% of processed 4 meat pizza and mac-and-cheese with chili and bean dip.

I don't have IBS.... but you wouldn't know it on my bad days....

My poor A-Hole....... :(

It's being raped from the inside by cheap Aldi food on a daily basis....

Those guys getting unwillingly pounded mercilessly from behind on OZ back in the day don't have shit on what a 100% Aldi diet will do to your sphincter from the inside.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Seriously, if you want to reduce CO2 and Methane emissions, make good beef and steak affordable again so my weekly dinner diet doesn't consist 90% of processed 4 meat pizza and mac-and-cheese with chili and bean dip.

I don't have IBS.... but you wouldn't know it on my bad days....

My poor A-Hole....... :(

It's being raped from the inside by cheap Aldi food on a daily basis....

Those guys getting unwillingly pounded mercilessly from behind on OZ back in the day don't have shit on what a 100% Aldi diet will do to your sphincter from the inside.

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This isn't a laughing matter Jack.

Hehe, sphincter.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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melting polar caps... nonsense.

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See, THIS is what I can't understand. The square mileage if the Arctic is LESS. It's in photographs, satellite imagery, reports from native people that live there. You can verify it in so many different ways. How can you continue with this?? Gods you really ARE as stupid as they say....

Rain in Seattle... nonsense. Just a theory/can't be proved.
No air on the Moon... nonsense. Just a theory/can't be proved.
Rappy an idiot... nonsense. Just a theory/can't be proved.



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Just because it was 600ppm doesn't mean it wasn't low. It was coming down from 3000.

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Also, you can't have co2 net coming long term from decomposing plant material, because it has to get into the plant material by the exact same reaction in reverse

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Chrissy, you're sounding like that Pippy Bongstocking broad, from that 'day after' vid in Wisconsin.

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Also, obviously, a lot of the CO2 in the plant cells is then burned to fuel their own respiration, and not expended to build more plant.

And that's when you don't add in the animals that then die in increasingly anoxic swamp waters caused by that decay. Or when the decay material ignites in buried swamp fires.

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KPO - It's not an issue of humans 'helping' plant life. I'm just pointing out that a bit more CO2 isn't going to kill us. Or even harm us. As for ocean acidification, that is one thing I can get on board with. But as for climate change, global warming, melting polar caps... nonsense.

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Our data indicate that there may be a feedback mechanism in which elevated carbon dioxide causes an increase in substrate release into the rhizosphere by non-mycorrhizal plants, leading to mineral nutrient sequestration by the expanded microflora and a consequent nutritional limitation on plant growth.

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Yes, which would put us back to the cretaceous. I don't see a serious problem with that.

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BERKELEY —
A prestigious group of scientists from around the world is warning that population growth, widespread destruction of natural ecosystems, and climate change may be driving Earth toward an irreversible change in the biosphere, a planet-wide tipping point that would have destructive consequences absent adequate preparation and mitigation.


UC Berkeley professor Tony Barnosky explains how an increasing human population, coupled with climate change, could irreversibly alter Earth’s ecosystem. (Video produced by Roxanne Makasdjian)

“It really will be a new world, biologically, at that point,” warns Anthony Barnosky, professor of integrative biology at the University of California, Berkeley, and lead author of a review paper appearing in the June 7 issue of the journal Nature. “The data suggests that there will be a reduction in biodiversity and severe impacts on much of what we depend on to sustain our quality of life, including, for example, fisheries, agriculture, forest products and clean water. This could happen within just a few generations.”

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Chrissy, you're sounding like that Pippy Bongstocking broad, from that 'day after' vid in Wisconsin.

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Ha ha, that's funny- Now why say poles aren't melting when ALL the evidence (hell, PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF) show the Arctic receding? Is this a WORLDWIDE conspiracy??? EVERY site, EVERY reporter, EVERY photo & satellite image????

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, after getting your first answer wrong and LYING ABOUT IT you ran away AGAIN from my questions.

Why would you do that?

To refresh your memory, here it is:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=52174

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So, after getting your first answer wrong and LYING ABOUT IT you ran away AGAIN from my questions.

Why would you do that?

To refresh your memory, here it is:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=52174

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No idea who you're addressing, or why you're posting a link to an entirely different thread.

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Clear enough for you?

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Chrissy, you're sounding like that Pippy Bongstocking broad, from that 'day after' vid in Wisconsin.

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Ha ha, that's funny- Now why say poles aren't melting when ALL the evidence (hell, PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF) show the Arctic receding? Is this a WORLDWIDE conspiracy??? EVERY site, EVERY reporter, EVERY photo & satellite image????

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Here's a (partial) list of the
specific glaciers that are growing

India - Record snowfall revives 2,000 glaciers
17 Feb 11 - Already more snowfall this month than
1998 record for the entire month. Think you'll see
this in the mainstream media?

http://www.iceagenow.com/List_of_Expanding_Glaciers.htm


Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking

ICE is expanding in much of Antarctica, contrary to the widespread public belief that global warming is melting the continental ice cap.

The results of ice-core drilling and sea ice monitoring indicate there is no large-scale melting of ice over most of Antarctica, although experts are concerned at ice losses on the continent's western coast.

Antarctica has 90 per cent of the Earth's ice and 80 per cent of its fresh water. Extensive melting of Antarctic ice sheets would be required to raise sea levels substantially, and ice is melting in parts of west Antarctica. The destabilisation of the Wilkins ice shelf generated international headlines this month.

However, the picture is very different in east Antarctica, which includes the territory claimed by Australia.

East Antarctica is four times the size of west Antarctica and parts of it are cooling. The Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research report prepared for last week's meeting of Antarctic Treaty nations in Washington noted the South Pole had shown "significant cooling in recent decades".


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/revealed-antarctic-ice-growing/st
ory-e6frg6no-1225700046908

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Seriously, if you want to reduce CO2 and Methane emissions, make good beef and steak affordable again so my weekly dinner diet doesn't consist 90% of processed 4 meat pizza and mac-and-cheese with chili and bean dip.

I don't have IBS.... but you wouldn't know it on my bad days....

My poor A-Hole....... :(

It's being raped from the inside by cheap Aldi food on a daily basis....

Those guys getting unwillingly pounded mercilessly from behind on OZ back in the day don't have shit on what a 100% Aldi diet will do to your sphincter from the inside.

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This isn't a laughing matter Jack.

Hehe, sphincter.

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Hehe... I know... just bringing out truth with humor man....

I've spent the larger part of my last 3 months growing new baby grass on 1,600 feet of my property that was bare or full of weeds (Which have left me using over 11,000 gallons of water since the 22nd that I haven't been billed on yet!!!!), and I'm growing my new raised garden that I give instructions to how to do, if it turns out well and you'd like to see how to do it.

The first year cost me over 200 bucks in up-front costs, and being a cheapass like I am, that's WAY OVERSPENDING..... I'll figure out much cheaper ways to expand this int he future.

Either way, if I only kept this 4'x4' garden next year, there will be no man made fertilizers or huge costs. Just a few bags of cheap compost and a few cheap plants and seeds to start it up again.




We're probably allies here by proxy....

I don't have kids... I think the planet and those who are in control will ultimately implode on themselves, but I think it will be a lot later than I'm old enough to care....

In the mean time, I recycle cans and cardboard, and I'm starting my first garden.

My newest game system is a broken XBox 360 that doesn't play discs and only plays downloaded games. Aside from Goodwill, my only new clothes purchase in the retail stores in the last 3 years were new socks and drawers and a pair of black work pants.

My oldest T Shirt is a black shirt with 6 pics of Curly with "The Many Faces of a Knucklehead" on it that my Pom GF in HS bought me. It's about 14 years old now and has still held up.... (Made in America). I still get a lot of compliments on it.

Recycling is one thing man... can you wear clothes that are nearly 15 years old with pride :)

It should be easy.... aside from the flannel fad, most 90's clothes were so low key they could be worn today without anyone noticing, unlike 80s or 70s fads....



Back to the tomatoes though...

I love my fresh tomatoes more than, well to keep it PC, just about everything else...

Wish me luck!

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