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Banks' Conviction Overturned -- Late
Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:59 AM
OONJERAH
Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:41 PM
STORYMARK
Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:18 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:50 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: She didn't come forward because she doesn't want to pay back the money... Really, paying back the money should be the LEAST of her worries right now. She sent a man to fucking PRISON for a crime that never happened, and in the process screwed him out of a college scholarship and education, a shot at the pros, and so much of his life. And for what? A payday?
Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:22 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:42 PM
Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:56 PM
Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: RSOs: Registered Sex Offenders. I believe that not all of them are guilty. They serve their time, often more than the original sentence. Landlords are not allowed to discriminate against them based on criminal record. But they do have to register as a sex offender every year of their life, and of course, we can find them on Megan's List. In my neighborhood, counting 2 blocks of it, there were 2. Another moved in, stayed a year or so, moved out. So we're back to 2. #3 was Al, very open and outgoing. He told us his story: He was quite innocent; his ex-wife got him convicted for molesting their child, a complete lie, because she was vengeful. The judge was a hanging judge. Al liked especially to tell about prison. I told him to write a book; he said he was doing so. Nice guy as he was, I am on the fence about his guilt or innocence. Why? I make a stupid assumption. I feel the punishment for sex crimes is usually so severe and ongoing, that no one would purposely ruin a man's life that way. Stupid me. The problem with sex crimes is, they generate so much bad feelings, can most of us be rational about them? If I were on a jury, would I be fair or biased? What if I was getting bad vibes from the accused? That would probably sway my opinion. (I keep in mind that sex crimes don't occur in the military; that's official.) Guess I'm just nattering on about human fallability leads to many injustices. Not going to wonder right now about Banks' accuser. Leave her to the media. If there's any good in this, it's that Banks is still young enough to rebuild his life, and I wish him well in that.
Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:54 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: If she is coming on to you for sex, and you're not related, make her day, I say.... Just make sure it's all recorded, so the jury can see what really went down when the opposite story is being told.
Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: If she is coming on to you for sex, and you're not related, make her day, I say.... Just make sure it's all recorded, so the jury can see what really went down when the opposite story is being told. What pisses me off is crap like that makes it harder for ACTUAL victims to get anywhere. And that bit I just quoted - wellll, lets just same there's a chick out there who JUST ran afoul of exactly fekkin that, given that I am a skeptical, paranoid, cynical bastard and the notion of covertly recording consent would have *prior to the bullshit she pulled* come across as lunacy... But oh NOW it makes such sense, oh yes. Sad days when the question ain't whether you're paranoid, it's whether you're paranoid ENOUGH. -Frem
Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:52 PM
Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: ^ I believe that. Guy 45 in the swimming pool playing "grabass" with a 14-yr-old girl. He: "WE were playing grabass ..." Being an old bat with a dim view, I suspect he was playing grabass while she was trying to get the hell away. Maybe not. No one called him on it at the time. I don't condone his behavior, but I didn't see it. Couple months go by. The girl complained to her mother who then pressed charges. He was arrested; did he plea bargain? Final charges were "Lewd & lacivious conduct with a minor." That's a felony. He: "There is no misdemeanor child molest." He did a year, sharing quar- ters with sex deviants of all stripes including murderers. There was no distinction. He has to keep his SO registration current. ========================= I am responsible for my own happiness.
Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:30 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Friday, May 25, 2012 4:56 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote: it's a FACT that any judge or jury is going to automatically believe a woman or child when it comes to rape allegations or physical and/or emotional abuse.
Quote: In the "protected" society we live in now, as far as normal law abiding citizens are concerned, it's only the males who have a questionable self constitution that are the victims.... If she is coming on to you for sex, and you're not related, make her day, I say....
Quote: FBI reports consistently put the number of "unfounded" rape accusations around 8%. However, "unfounded" is not synonymous with "false" allegation. The largest study, published in 2005, was based on 2,643 sexual assault cases and found 8% of false reports.
Quote: Two conclusions can be drawn from this review of literature on the prevalence of false rape allegations. First, many of the studies of false allegations have adopted unreliable or untested research methodologies and, so we cannot discern with any degree of certainty the actual rate of false allegations. A key component in judging the reliability of research in this area relates to the criteria used to judge an allegation to be false. Some studies use entirely unreliable criteria, while others provide only limited information on how rates are measured. The second conclusion that can be drawn from the research is that the police continue to misapply the no- crime or unfounding criteria and in so doing it would appear that some officers have fixed views and expectations about how genuine rape victims should react to their victimisation. The qualitative research also suggests that some officers continue to exhibit an unjustified scepticism of rape complainants, while others interpret such things as lack of evidence or complaint withdrawal as ‘‘proof’’ of a false allegation. Such findings suggest that there are inadequacies in police awareness of the dynamics and impact of sexual victimisation and this further reinforces the importance of training and education. However, the exact extent to which police officers incorrectly label allegations as false is difficult to discern." Wiki
Quote: Last night, the Hofstra University freshman who had accused five men of gang-raping her recanted her statement. The 18-year-old student, who had told police that the men had lured her into a dorm bathroom, tied her up, and raped her, admitted to the Nassau County District Attorney's office that the "incident" was, in fact, consensual. After being released from jail, where they had been held for nearly 24 hours, the four men cleared of the rape charges posed in a series of celebratory photographs, smiling, raising their hands in the air, and offering thumbs-up signs to the press. Overnight, the men turned from accused rapists to . . . four guys who had had consensual sex with a woman together. http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/17/false-rape-accusations-and-rape-culture/
Quote: Elan admits that even if the woman hadn't accused five men of raping her, she still would have "cheapened herself" by having sex with the men "willingly." Meanwhile, the four released men in the case carry no such group-sex stigma when they pose triumphantly outside the jailhouse doors. Why are people calling the accuser a whore instead of a liar?
Friday, May 25, 2012 4:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Jack, I hope your brother can find some medicine, from the earth or regular, I don't care which, that helps him feel better, he sounds miserable and very difficult to care for. More is the pitty he is the way he is instead of being touched. Touched ones are sweet tempered and get looked after better because of it, they're more pleasant to be around. Obviously being normal, or quite stable, is preferable, but it would be better than this if he were one of the touched ones. We don't get to choose how things go, so thus I'm holding out for some good medicine to come along for him. I agree that maybe there should be degrees of registration, since an 18 year old rutting with his 16 year old girlfriend isn't really awful like a guy who rapes girls and sticks their heads on pikes as mentioned before. Plus people make up being raped or molested all the time in order to get things, revenge included. I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.
Friday, May 25, 2012 4:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: "Everything She Said.
Friday, May 25, 2012 5:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: "Everything She Said. Sorry Niki, We don't live in a Rape culture. Even worse, we live in a culture where the maturing men that are "haves" find it much more easy and agreeable to just stay at home and play video games and watch internet porn rather than deal with "real world issues". Even in my neighborhood, I rarely see any 14+ white guys walking home with the cute white girls. It's always the black kids who aren't rushing home to collect every bent-tin can in Fallout. Not to sound racist, but without internet porn and games, the best they have to look forward to after school besides the girls is shooting some hoops in the garage otherwise. Just like Heavy Metal was the aprhodesiac for teen girls in the 80's, black dominance has become their new calling. The truly smart and uber sexy will always call their own shots, but when 99% of white males would rather stay at home playing PS3 and jacking off to fetish porn today, who can fault the girls? Enjoy the supposedly big black shaft while it is still interested... In my opinion, Porn and the occasional high priced call girl is much more worth the money in the long run. In the end, I always get what I want and need, and I don't owe anyone a dime on credit.... Can't buy me love....
Friday, May 25, 2012 5:18 PM
Friday, May 25, 2012 5:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Whatever dude.... Read it however you want and gloss over the pertinent points..... Just like a Leftie...
Friday, May 25, 2012 5:41 PM
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Friday, May 25, 2012 6:04 PM
BYTEMITE
Quote:I WILL NEVER GIVE A GUILTY VERDICT
Monday, May 28, 2012 8:23 AM
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