The Face of Western Slavery by AnthonyT

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The Face of Western Slavery

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UPDATED: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:49
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Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:57 AM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

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Hello,

It is one thing to think of workers voluntarily working for small wages in order to be competitive.

It is another thing to think of workers being imprisoned and controlled, both by virtue of force and by virtue of having a criminal status, and thereby feeling unable to appeal to authority.

The situation described in this article is an uncontrolled market, but not a free one.

Whenever I doubt the need for some minimal standard of protection for laborers, I come across something like this that makes me reconsider my position.

--Anthony

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“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:49 PM

DREAMTROVE

This crosses with the social support system argument. Any system in which people "need jobs" is a flawed economic state. Such a system will never have "free labor" which is so essential to an evolving economic system.

The issue here is that any work no one wants to do should be automated. There's no reason what they are doing can't be done by robots. Slavery exists because slaves are cheaper.

Right now I'm battling this fracking of the land locally, when Exxon openly admits they can synthesize oil out of seawater for $80 a barrel, which is well under the market price, but not as cheap as it can be gotten from raping the globe.

The sweatshops are simply breaking the law all over the place, and probably bribing local officials to get away with it. The solution is to obviate the industry.

I like that little bit where some blonde guy is speaking spanish, and it's being translated into english by someone with a thick indian accent. That had a certain charm.

Ten fishermen live on an island.
Each man is capable of catching enough fish for himself, and the men live happily together.
One day, a man invents a net. Suddenly, all the fishing needed can be done by just two men. At first there's a crisis. A labor movement seeks to ban nets, because they will create an unequal distribution of labor and will put men out of work. If this movement succeeds, society never evolves past this point.

Eventually, a system is worked out. Perhaps the men take turns, or those who fish are paid by some other means, or maybe the system is completely unequal, and two men do all the work. It really doesn't matter. The main thing gained here is that 8 men are now free to do something else. This society can now invent something else. Perhaps those 8 men start building huts.

They build grass huts perpetually, because they do not know yet how to build housing that lasts. Once they do, there will be an economic crisis. If they can see that through, some day they may build boats. If not, they will never evolve.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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