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Sick mutherf***ing BASTARDS!!!
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:28 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Supreme Court strikes down law banning dogfight videos The Supreme Court has struck down a federal law designed to stop the sale and marketing of videos showing dogfights and other acts of animal cruelty, saying it is an unconstitutional violation of free speech. The 8-1 decision was a defeat for animal rights groups and congressional sponsors of the legislation. The specific case before the court dealt with tapes showing pit bulls attacking other animals and one another in staged confrontations. The justices Tuesday concluded the scope and intent of the decade-old statute was overly broad. "The First Amendment itself reflects a judgment by the American people that the benefits of its restrictions on the government outweigh its costs," said Chief Justice John Roberts. He concluded Congress had not sufficiently shown "depictions" of dog fighting enough to justify a special category of exclusion from free speech protection. The high court threw out the conviction of Robert Stevens, a Pittsville, Virginia, man who sold videos through his business, Dogs of Velvet and Steel. According to court records, undercover federal agents found he was advertising his tapes in Sporting Dog Journal, an underground magazine on illegal dog fighting. Among the products Stevens advertised was "Catch Dogs," featuring pit bulls chasing wild boars on organized hunts and a "gruesome depiction of a pit bull attacking the lower jaw of a domestic farm pig," according to the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania-based appeals court that ruled on the case earlier. Stevens was charged in 2004 with violating interstate commerce laws by selling depictions of animal cruelty. He was later sentenced to 37 months in prison, and promptly appealed. That sentence was put on hold pending resolution of this appeal. He argued his sentence was longer than the 14 months given professional football player Michael Vick, who ran an illegal dog fighting ring. It was the first prosecution in the United States to proceed to trial under the 1999 law. Nearly every state and local jurisdiction have their own laws banning mistreatment of wild and domesticated animals and usually handle prosecutions of animal cruelty. Several media organizations had supported Stevens, worrying the federal law could implicate reports about deer hunting and depictions of bullfighting in Ernest Hemingway novels. Roberts agreed. "Jurisdictions permit and encourage hunting, and there is an enormous national market for hunting-related depictions in which a living animal is intentionally killed," Roberts said. "An otherwise-lawful image of any of these practices, if sold or possessed for commercial gain within a state that happens to forbid the practice, falls within the prohibition of [the federal law]." During oral arguments in October, the justices offered a number of wide-ranging hypotheticals over what the law could forbid, including: fox hunts, pate de foie gras from geese, cockfighting, bullfighting, shooting deer out of season, even Roman gladiator battles. Only Justice Samuel Alito dissented in the case, and he focused on one of the most disturbing aspects raised in the appeal, the marketing of so-called "crush" videos, in which women -- with their faces unseen -- are shown stomping helpless animals such as rabbits to death with spiked-heel shoes or with their bare feet. "The animals used in crush videos are living creatures that experience excruciating pain. Our society has long banned such cruelty," he said. The courts, he said, have "erred in second-guessing the legislative judgment about the importance of preventing cruelty to animals." Roberts suggested a law specifically banning crush videos might be valid, since it was narrowly tailored to a specific type of commercial enterprise. Alito noted that would not help dogs forced to fight each other, where, he said, "the suffering lasts for years rather than minutes." The government had argued a "compelling interest" in stopping people who would profit from dog attack tapes and similar depictions. If the law had been upheld, it would have been only the second time the Supreme Court had identified a form of speech undeserving of protection by the First Amendment. The justices in 1982 banned the distribution of child pornography.
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:59 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:04 AM
BYTEMITE
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:50 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: [BYeah, play to the sickest, basest human urges, you sons of bitches...Roberts the worst among you! That's all I dare say.
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:17 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:42 AM
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:21 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:29 AM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Have to agree with "Hero" on this one.
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: a photo of little Bobby with his first deer
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:19 PM
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:30 PM
Quote:would be a depiction of animal cruelty in my book- but, whatever. I admit to killing ants & mosquitoes. BUT I DON'T TAKE PICTURES OF IT!!!!!
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:34 PM
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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:15 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:20 PM
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: If it's in my personal space, it *dies*.
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:25 PM
LITTLEBIRD
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:30 PM
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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Littlebird: Mosquito's really are from the dark side. They get squished.
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:00 PM
Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6:59 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Littlebird: I have a little round plastic container and a piece of cardboard I use to scoop the little critters up and fly them outside. That way they can spread the word that, yes, ufo's are real.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:34 AM
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:05 AM
Quote:I save worms
Quote:When I was working at MMC, they dredged a canal near us, stranding a lot of carp in drying mud. Yes, I know they're non-native and bottom feeders, but I couldn't stand watching them flop around, dying slowly. So a bunch of us from MMC waded in with hip boots, tossed 'em in buckets and heaved 'em back in the canal. I did ask Fish and Wildlife about it, but they said since they're non-native, they don't care.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:12 AM
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Littlebird: I have a little round plastic container and a piece of cardboard I use to scoop the little critters up and fly them outside. That way they can spread the word that, yes, ufo's are real. I do something similar. I scoop them up, impale them on toothpicks, then line the edge of my yard with them as a warning to all. Or...sometimes I use chemical weapons on them. H "Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:29 AM
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Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: I imagine Hero considers them enemy combatants and an invading force.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: But yanno, I freakin HATE rats.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:02 PM
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Chris: Henry Jones Sr. hates rats, and Indiana hates snakes?
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:14 PM
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Aw, they're both cute.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:45 PM
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: They can't suck, they don't have lips.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Chris: Henry Jones Sr. hates rats, and Indiana hates snakes? I'm with Indy on this one; snakes creep me, but rats? I had a few as pets as a kid. They are darling creatures. And love peanut butter.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Snakes gotta eat.
Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:09 AM
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Friday, April 23, 2010 7:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: I imagine Hero considers them enemy combatants and an invading force. You only say that because you're a pacifist liberal who doesn't have the balls to protect this country from vermin. Go hug another tree, Nancy. I note for the record that certain trees are in fact very huggable. H "Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
Friday, April 23, 2010 7:48 AM
Quote:You only say that because you're a pacifist liberal who doesn't have the balls to protect this country from vermin. Go hug another tree, Nancy.
Friday, April 23, 2010 7:58 AM
Friday, April 23, 2010 8:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: I imagine Hero considers them enemy combatants and an invading force. You only say that because you're a pacifist liberal who doesn't have the balls to protect this country from vermin. Go hug another tree, Nancy. I note for the record that certain trees are in fact very huggable. H
Friday, April 23, 2010 8:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Mesquite trees are very NOT huggable, unless you're really into thorns. They do make great wood for smoking BBQ, though!
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