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Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:08 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:16 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:24 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: What is your Obama wishlist?
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: What is your Obama wishlist? I wish he was a conservative Republican. As for change, the first thing I'd like changed is your attitude. After that...I'd kinda like to rename Delaware. H
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:28 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote: Bush committed no war crimes, and any HINT of going after him would cause riots. I'm serious, it would bring on armed conflict. Worst thing Obama could do. The rift he'd cause might be unrepairable.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:32 AM
CHRISISALL
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote: Bush committed no war crimes, and any HINT of going after him would cause riots. I'm serious, it would bring on armed conflict. Worst thing Obama could do. The rift he'd cause might be unrepairable. I thought Republicans didn't riot...
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: I want him to establish a Department Of Joss Works (DOJW) to fund & implement the return of Firefly (you said 'wish', dintja?). Chrisisall
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I just roll with the punches and hope that when he talks about spreading the wealth, he means taking it from the much-higher-ups and not out of my 40k per year or so salary.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:47 AM
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:51 AM
RIVERLOVE
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: [ I think I've hit my ceiling though.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:57 AM
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 5:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: you're probably a much richer man than I am.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 5:14 AM
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Wednesday, November 5, 2008 5:46 AM
HKCAVALIER
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Bush committed no war crimes, and any HINT of going after him would cause riots. I'm serious, it would bring on armed conflict. Worst thing Obama could do. The rift he'd cause might be unrepairable.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 6:00 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:any HINT of going after him would cause riots.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 6:13 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 6:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: If I were Obama, the first three things I would do to fix the country are: 1) repair the registration and election system so that everyone who is eligible is registered, everyone who shows up to vote is able to cast a ballot, and every vote is counted - and I'd make election day a national holiday.
Quote: 2) lead the repeal of the USPATRIOT Act, make signing statements illegal, and repair necessary checks and balances
Quote: 3) re-institute the Fairness Doctrine and re-regulate corporate media.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 6:54 AM
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Wednesday, November 5, 2008 6:59 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I'm sorry Rue, but there is NO Constitutal right for anyone to vote for Presdient.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:15 AM
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:04 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: 1. Give GWB a fair and balanced trial for his war crimes and his pissing on the Constitution and American freedoms.
Quote:3. End the endless war on terror that serves no other purposes than to piss everyone else in the world off and dump 12 billion dollars a month in that shit hole when they have plenty of oil money to fight their own battles.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Reading this, you'd think that somehow a small band of 'the liberals' foisted off a president on an unwitting conservative country, and not that the president was overwhelmingly elected by large numbers of citizens.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:16 AM
Quote:52% to 46% is "overwhelmingly elected"?
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I'm sorry Rue, but there is NO Constitutal right for anyone to vote for Presdient. 15th 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. 19th The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. 24th Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax. Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. 26th Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age. Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! It's not just that he's wrong so often, it's that he's so often SPECTACULARLY wrong, and then remains steadfast in his resolve that he's absolutely right, and we're all just too stupid to "get it".
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 11:54 AM
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Wednesday, November 5, 2008 1:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by rue: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I'm sorry Rue, but there is NO Constitutal right for anyone to vote for Presdient. 15th 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. 19th The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. 24th Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax. Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. 26th Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age. Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. *************************************************************** Silence is consent. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! It's not just that he's wrong so often, it's that he's so often SPECTACULARLY wrong, and then remains steadfast in his resolve that he's absolutely right, and we're all just too stupid to "get it". This is right up there with the 95% of "them" who pay no taxes whatsoever. Hey, I've got an idea: Why don't we take those 95% of them who pay no taxes, and do away with their right to vote? Y'know, since there IS no "right" to vote anyway... Mike
Wednesday, November 5, 2008 1:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: But his main point - that states can decide who 'gets' to vote and who doesn't - is flat out wrong. As usual. *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Quote: Almost everyone in America, thanks to the presidential election mess of 2000, knows that the Constitution provides that the president will be selected by an Electoral College, not by direct popular vote. Only 538 persons, representing the slates of electors chosen by voters in the fifty states and the District of Columbia, actually vote directly for president. The person receiving a majority of the votes of electors becomes the president. In the event that no candidate receives a majority of electoral votes, the decision falls, under the 12th Amendment, to the House of Representatives.The mode of the selection of the president was one of the most difficult and contentious issues in the 1787 Convention. Some delegates urged that the president be selected by the legislature. Other delegates, favoring direct election, argued that selection by the legislature would mean--at least if presidents could serve more than one term--that the president would be continually trying to please the legislators and would not be truly independent. Delegates opposed to direct election expressed the concern that presidents would always come from more populous states and wondered whether the public would have the knowledge of various candidates necessary to make a wise selection. The final decision of the delegates, to have electors chosen by the various state legislatures elect the president, was the result of a compromise worked out by a committee comprised of one delegate from each of the states and presented to the Convention on September 4, 1787. http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/electoralcoll.htm It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager " They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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FIVVER
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Friday, November 7, 2008 3:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: I get the feeling that a lot of folks imbued Sen. Obama with their own desires and didn't really pay much attention to his actual platform. Folks are now expecting things to happen that he has never supported or promised.
Friday, November 7, 2008 4:27 AM
Friday, November 7, 2008 4:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: Obama campaigned on change...rah rah rah! Now he's filling his Administration with Clintonista party hacks like Emmanuel and Podesta. Where's the change? Where's the hope? Where's the new way of doing things? What a crock!
Friday, November 7, 2008 7:33 AM
Friday, November 7, 2008 8:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Fivver " That it does. But Rap's point was that states could arbitrarily decide WHO gets to vote. And he was wrong, as usual. *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Saturday, November 8, 2008 12:48 PM
LESTER
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