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France supported genocide, Rwandan report claims

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:42 PM

GEEZER

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Rwanda has accused France of playing an active role in the genocide of 1994, in which about 800,000 people were killed.

An independent Rwandan commission said France was aware of preparations for the genocide and helped train the ethnic Hutu militia perpetrators.

The report also accused French troops of direct involvement in the killings.

The report says France backed Rwanda's Hutu government with political, military, diplomatic and logistical support.

It accuses France of training Hutu militias responsible for the slaughter, helping plan the genocide, and participating in the killings.

"French forces directly assassinated Tutsis and Hutus accused of hiding Tutsis... French forces committed several rapes on Tutsi survivors," said a statement from the justice ministry cited by AFP news agency.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7542418.stm

Can't find any links to the report yet, but probably soon.



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Monday, August 11, 2008 11:31 AM

GEEZER

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And, apparently, no one cares.

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Monday, August 11, 2008 11:45 AM

AURAPTOR

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A lot of things may be said of the French, but mass murderers ?


I think that silence you hear is overbearing disbelief at even such a notion.



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Monday, August 11, 2008 12:07 PM

KHYRON


What motives would France have for doing such a thing?

It sounds like the Rwandans are doing what African leaders like to do when things are going wrong: Blame the evil West.

I might be wrong, maybe France was involved. Based on what I've read, I highly doubt it, though.

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Monday, August 11, 2008 12:48 PM

NBZ


Apparently everyone is guilty in Rwanda.

France supported the old regime that was overthrown.

The UK and the US supported the current regime, which also committed warcrimes. But this side won, so the crimes of the other side are publicised.

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Monday, August 11, 2008 12:56 PM

GEEZER

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Originally posted by Khyron:
What motives would France have for doing such a thing?



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Throughout the late '80s and early '90s, Rwanda's Hutu Power dictatorship had enjoyed the patronage of France. As a former Belgian colony, Rwanda was a French speaking country, and Paris's neo-colonial policy in Africa was to support those who spoke its language at all costs. In the early '90s, when Rwanda was plunged into civil war between the Hutu government, and the predominantly Tutsi rebel group, the Rwandese Patriotic Front, France threw its military support behind the Hutu regime. After all, the RPF came out of Uganda--where its leaders had been living in exile--and Uganda is an English speaking country. French leaders were unconcerned by their murderous Hutu Power clients. As the genocide reached its peak in the early summer of 1994, France's President François Mitterand was reported to say, "In such countries as this, genocide is not too important." Sadly, by their actions and inactions during the Rwandan slaughter, the rest of the world's great powers signaled that they agreed.


Quoted from Philip Gourevitch's book, We Wish To Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families.

See more here. http://jeffweintraub.blogspot.com/2004/10/philip-gourevitch-french-act
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The more you read about this, the more you notice that it was pretty much common knowledge in France and the rest of Europe, but no one seemed to get too upset about it.

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Monday, August 11, 2008 1:10 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Shameful. Sadly, Mitterand's alleged remarks seem to be about the norm when it comes to Africa. The world tends to turn a blind eye to any atrocities there just as long as they still get to plunder the continent's mineral wealth...

As Nick Cave said, "People just ain't no good."




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Monday, August 11, 2008 8:18 PM

KHYRON


Quote:

Originally posted by Khyron:
Based on what I've read, I highly doubt it, though.

Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quoted from Philip Gourevitch's book, We Wish To Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families.

See more here. http://jeffweintraub.blogspot.com/2004/10/philip-gourevitch-french-act
ions-in.html

I stand corrected, based on what I've read now, there might be some truth to this allegation.

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:13 AM

WASHNWEAR


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Shameful. Sadly, Mitterand's alleged remarks seem to be about the norm when it comes to Africa. The world tends to turn a blind eye to any atrocities there just as long as they still get to plunder the continent's mineral wealth...

As Nick Cave said, "People just ain't no good."



Of course, Mr. Cave also said, "My eyes ain't green and my hair ain't yellow - in fact, it's the other way around!"

So...go figure...

It was sorta like making a contribution but not really when we got here!

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:39 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Hah - I was just listening to "The Curse of Milhaven" on my iPod!

Call it kismet...

Mike

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:59 AM

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I've been following the story. But I'll reserve my opinion until verifiable facts come out.

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