NAFTA and the cadidates by SignyM

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NAFTA and the cadidates

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UPDATED: Friday, March 7, 2008 14:27
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Friday, March 7, 2008 10:53 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

McCain enthuses about NAFTA. Hillary, for all her recent backpedalling, has been behind NAFTA since hubby got it passed. Obama? Well, one hopes that he's not as keen for NAFTA as the others, but Canadian sources say that one of his key people (Goolsbee) offered backchannel assurances that Obama's NAFTA talk was more political than real.

However, I DID read a copy of the Canadian internal memo, www.slate.com/id/2185753/entry/2185756/ and what Obama's guy seemed to be saying was: We got no big problem with our esteemed neighbor to the Great White North, we just need to fiddle with labor and environmental regulations. Our real problems are with our southern border and beyond. Quite honestly, that sounds reasonable to me as it reflects my feelings on NAFTA. So, what have you heard? And what do you think? Is Obama selling us down the river? Or what?

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Friday, March 7, 2008 1:16 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Also, according to Keith Olbermann and "Countdown", the ACTUAL talk behind the scenes - as quoted by a high-level Candian official - had HILLARY giving the nod-n-wink to the NAFTA crowd, saying she was just talking tough about it on the campaign trail, but that once elected, she would be all about the NAFTA thing again.

My sense is that Hillary's trying to have it both ways. She *was* a key part of her husband's Administration, except when it was something unpopular or illegal that got done, and then she *wasn't* a kay part of things any more. Convenient, I tells ya...

The way things are going right now, I've about gotten sick of the whole damned mess. Pissing and moaning about each other (Barack & Hillbilly, I mean), sniping at each other, it just gets frustrating. At this rate, neither one will have my vote by the time November rolls around!

Then, of course, the pragmatist in me rears his head and says that they're only vetting each other, getting all the ugliness out there early on so it can't come back to haunt them. I know the Resco (sp?) thing is looming over Obama somewhat, but that's kind of a moot point. The right can't really bring up his support of Obama in too harsh a light, since he also pumped thousands into Bush's campaigns...

Anytho, back to your regularly scheduled thread...

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Friday, March 7, 2008 2:27 PM

KIRKULES

I don't see any problem with free trade with Canada. Canada has similar wages, environmental laws, work safety standards, etc. The only problem I see with free trade is when it's not "fair trade". Trade with China and Mexico can't be fair because their lower standards give them a competitive advantage. We need to put more pressure on unfair trading partners to upgrade their wage/work/environmental standards. The problem is if we hold them to these standards to quickly they won't be able to enrich the country enough to achieve them.

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